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staylor26 01-03-2023 06:29 PM

The impact on FF from the Bengals/Bills game
 
What are you guys doing in your leagues?

Honestly, the only solution I can come up with is giving the team that was winning the "W" while splitting the pot (assuming the game isn't played).

Unless of course the game was essentially over, and the remaining players wouldn't have made a difference.

I'm seeing a lot of nonsensical solutions like counting the Bengals/Bills players week 18 points for week 17, splitting the pot based on % chance the win (projected points), etc.

It's unfortunate, and there are no perfect solutions, but I think this is the most logical/fair way to handle it.

Demonpenz 01-03-2023 06:31 PM

we just decided to give people their money back. No harm no foul

Sassy Squatch 01-03-2023 06:31 PM

Quit playing FF seems like the most logical solution to me.

Megatron96 01-03-2023 06:32 PM

I forgot all about it. But my goal was just not to be last; accomplished that a few weeks ago, so my intensity level is pretty low.

staylor26 01-03-2023 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16707635)
Quit playing FF seems like the most logical solution to me.

Nah, I'm too good to ever quit, regardless of how maddening it can be.

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-03-2023 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16707635)
Quit playing FF seems like the most logical solution to me.

you seem quite miserable today...

Why Not? 01-03-2023 06:37 PM

Not sure yet. In the league I am commish in, I think I will wait until official word comes out if the game will not be made up. Then I will split the 1st and 2nd place prizes for those guys and the 3rd and 4th place prizes for those guys. Not sure what the guy who runs my other league is going to do but I am currently winning the 3rd place game and it's $400 prize (my opponent has the Bills defense and Josh Allen) so I'll be staying tuned.

KC_Connection 01-03-2023 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16707628)
Honestly, the only solution I can come up with is giving the team that was winning the "W" while splitting the pot (assuming the game isn't played).

This is exactly what I did in the COVID-shortened NBA bubble season in my fantasy NBA league, but this is a bit different.

In the context of this ending, I'd probably take a look and see how the football final was going and determine it from there. If the person behind had a legitimate chance, I think you have to split the money (while giving the leader the win). I lost my final before the Bills/Bengals game was even played, so I don't have to deal with this.

FlaChief58 01-03-2023 06:45 PM

This is why I don't play ff

Chiefspants 01-03-2023 06:45 PM

I'm in semis in my league. Up by 34. I had Singletary and my opponent had Allen.

staylor26 01-03-2023 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 16707669)
I'm in semis in my league. Up by 34. I had Singletary and my opponent had Allen.

This becomes much more difficult when it's not the championship.

You should be the one to advance, and if you want to be nice, give that guy their money back if you win.

MahomesMagic 01-03-2023 06:48 PM

I'm up 100 playing in the Super Bowl.

Opponent has a few guys left but no way he can catch me.

Yet I haven't won yet.

staylor26 01-03-2023 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16707662)
This is exactly what I did in the COVID-shortened NBA bubble season in my fantasy NBA league, but this is a bit different.

In the context of this ending, I'd probably take a look and see how the football final was going and determine it from there. If the person behind had a legitimate chance, I think you have to split the money (while giving the leader the win). I lost my final before the Bills/Bengals game was even played, so I don't have to deal with this.

No I agree you definitely have to look at the situation too.

For example, I know of a league where the guy was winning by 1 going into the game playing against Burrow. Obviously the TD alone put his opponent in front by 5+, so he should get the W and the normal/standard split.

Jewish Rabbi 01-03-2023 06:50 PM

We just used the money to buy Brazzers for a year and the guys playing in the championship both got the password

Chiefspants 01-03-2023 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16707675)
This becomes much more difficult when it's not the championship.

You should be the one to advance, and if you want to be nice, give that guy their money back if you win.

It's going to be a tough call for the commish. He was up by 2 in his round but his opponent had McPherson while he had Gabe Davis.

For me, the gal I was playing had far and away the #1 team this year. So far I think we're all waiting to follow the lead of other leagues but everyone has sort of had different ideas/solutions offered so far.

The Franchise 01-03-2023 06:52 PM

Wait until the NFL makes a decision and go from there. It’s not like fantasy football decisions need to be hurried.

staylor26 01-03-2023 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 16707680)
It's going to be a tough call for the commish. He was up by 2 in his round but his opponent had McPherson while he had Gabe Davis.

For me, the gal I was playing had far and away the #1 team this year. So far I think we're all waiting to follow the lead of other leagues but everyone has sort of had different ideas/solutions offered so far.

That sucks for the dude that was down by 1, but the commish should also move on.

Once people start trying to come up with other solutions, it gets VERY wacky IMO.

staylor26 01-03-2023 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16707684)
Wait until the NFL makes a decision and go from there. It’s not like fantasy football decisions need to be hurried.

Oh I don't think anything should be final, but this is just a "how should we handle this if the game isn't played" conversation.

But yea, nothing should be finalized until we know for sure what's going to happen.

Gravedigger 01-03-2023 06:55 PM

I had Burrow, Diggs and Bass being down only 3 points with 3 quarters left and the other guy had nothing more. I didn’t mean to bitch about it but I’m not splitting my money with someone who wasn’t going to win no matter what. Still waiting on the decision, but nobody is going to sit there with a straight face and say that I wouldn’t be the winner. Money is tight after property taxes and Christmas, not looking to lose money on something I couldn’t control. If you want to give part of my money somewhere put it in his toy drive and not in the pocket of a six figure earner.

KC_Connection 01-03-2023 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 16707691)
I had Burrow, Diggs and Bass being down only 3 points with 3 quarters left and the other guy had nothing more. I didn’t mean to bitch about it but I’m not splitting my money with someone who wasn’t going to win no matter what. Still waiting on the decision, but nobody is going to sit there with a straight face and say that I wouldn’t be the winner. Money is tight after property taxes and Christmas, not looking to lose money on something I couldn’t control. If you want to give part of my money somewhere put it in his toy drive and not in the pocket of a six figure earner.

Any commissioner who wouldn't give you the money in this situation (or any opponent who wouldn't accept the loss) isn't worth playing with anyway IMO.

staylor26 01-03-2023 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 16707691)
I had Burrow, Diggs and Bass being down only 3 points with 3 quarters left and the other guy had nothing more. I didn’t mean to bitch about it but I’m not splitting my money with someone who wasn’t going to win no matter what. Still waiting on the decision, but nobody is going to sit there with a straight face and say that I wouldn’t be the winner. Money is tight after property taxes and Christmas, not looking to lose money on something I couldn’t control. If you want to give part of my money somewhere put it in his toy drive and not in the pocket of a six figure earner.

This is a situation where common sense should prevail, but that isn't always the case.

lewdog 01-03-2023 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 16707656)
Not sure yet. In the league I am commish in, I think I will wait until official word comes out if the game will not be made up. Then I will split the 1st and 2nd place prizes for those guys and the 3rd and 4th place prizes for those guys. Not sure what the guy who runs my other league is going to do but I am currently winning the 3rd place game and it's $400 prize (my opponent has the Bills defense and Josh Allen) so I'll be staying tuned.

I say that’s fair. Split the winnings for each final.

For the record I’m in this league and playing for the championship. I was winning by 1 pt going into last nights game. I had Mixon and he had Tyler Bass.

DJJasonp 01-03-2023 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16707684)
Wait until the NFL makes a decision and go from there. It’s not like fantasy football decisions need to be hurried.


I was lucky enough to had been up 5 going into MNF, where my opponent was done Sunday, and I had burrow.

I benched burrow just to make sure I didn’t lose by a fluke 3 INT game and then injury

My league championship, therefore, wasn’t impacted

lcarus 01-03-2023 07:12 PM

Our games were pretty much settled other than a couple extremely unlikely scenarios. I'm thinking of just giving the Bills and Bengals players their projected points. Or just ending it where it ended.

Why Not? 01-03-2023 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 16707711)
I say that’s fair. Split the winnings for each final.

For the record I’m in this league and playing for the championship. I was winning by 1 pt going into last nights game. I had Mixon and he had Tyler Bass.

Glad to hear you're on board. I don't think anyone else will have issue with it. I emailed the league a bit ago.

notorious 01-03-2023 08:24 PM

Scheduling any fantasy games past week 15 or 16 is just asking for trouble.

DrunkBassGuitar 01-03-2023 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 16707679)
We just used the money to buy Brazzers for a year and the guys playing in the championship both got the password

this is something blake from workaholics would come up with lol

wazu 01-03-2023 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16707834)
Scheduling any fantasy games past week 15 or 16 is just asking for trouble.

Just gonna guess you've never played fantasy football.

notorious 01-03-2023 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 16707916)
Just gonna guess you've never played fantasy football.

Only since 92', when you had to keep score off of box scores in the newspaper.

Players sit often when the playoffs are set. I thought this was a well-known thing.

I've played in a bunch of leagues and the latest one went to week 16 (back on the old 17 week schedule).

wazu 01-03-2023 09:07 PM

In my dynasty league championship, 1 team has Josh Allen, and is down 1.6 points to a team that has Joe Burrow. Obviously the guy with Burrow was in the lead when the game was stopped, but the rolled back points to zero today on MFL's site so he's back to being behind. There is $1800 on the line. The commish is proposing to just give each team the points that the players get in Week 18. Glad I'm not commish for this one.

wazu 01-03-2023 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16707928)
Only since 92', when you had to keep score off of box scores in the newspaper.

Players sit often when the playoffs are set. I thought this was a well-known thing.

I've played in a bunch of leagues and the latest one went to week 16 (back on the old 17 week schedule).

And you play in leagues that don't play past Week 15? The second to last week of the season is pretty much considered Championship weekend across the entire community.

notorious 01-03-2023 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 16707935)
And you play in leagues that don't play past Week 15? The second to last week of the season is pretty much considered Championship weekend across the entire community.

Where did I say we didn't play past week 14?

Ahh, you ninja changed the post.

notorious 01-03-2023 09:10 PM

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Week 15 OR 16.
(based on the old 17 week schedule)

wazu 01-03-2023 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16707942)
Where did I say we didn't play past week 14?

Ahh, you ninja changed the post.

Yeah, you must have been angry refreshing cause I was pretty fast. LMAO

notorious 01-03-2023 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 16707953)
Yeah, you must have been angry refreshing cause I was pretty fast. LMAO

LMAO

https://media.tenor.com/pIYhVLPd5YkA...otmebright.gif

wazu 01-03-2023 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16707949)
(based on the old 17 week schedule)

Okay, Week 16 from 2020 and earlier would make sense. Just your original post made it sound like currently scheduling games past Week 15 or 16 was a bad idea when there are 18 weeks. All good though if what you really meant was only past Week 16 if the year is 2020 or earlier.

notorious 01-03-2023 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 16707964)
Okay, Week 16 from 2020 and earlier would make sense. Just your original post made it sound like currently scheduling games past Week 15 or 16 was a bad idea when there are 18 weeks. All good though if what you really meant was only past Week 16 if the year is 2020 or earlier.

I still think of stuff on the old format.

Old age and all. :facepalm:

I still remember 94' when they had a 18 week schedule, and gave every team 2 bye weeks. I'm shocked they don't do that now because it would give the NFL viewers.

notorious 01-03-2023 09:17 PM

I won a 10 team league last week. Thank goodness we don't have this mess to deal with.

Cincy and Buffalo have heavy fantasy rosters.

kevrunner 01-03-2023 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 16707932)
In my dynasty league championship, 1 team has Josh Allen, and is down 1.6 points to a team that has Joe Burrow. Obviously the guy with Burrow was in the lead when the game was stopped, but the rolled back points to zero today on MFL's site so he's back to being behind. There is $1800 on the line. The commish is proposing to just give each team the points that the players get in Week 18. Glad I'm not commish for this one.

That’s what we are doing in 1 of my dynasty leagues, just going to use week 18 points instead of Monday’s, 1st place $600. In my other dynasty league, 1st and 2nd just agreed to split pot, pretty even going into Monday’s game, both teams had a QB and WR to go. Team leading by 5 points going into that game is this year’s champion. We play on MFL and that site has already finalized the week with no points at all for Cinn/Buff players.

wazu 01-03-2023 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16707983)
I won a 10 team league last week. Thank goodness we don't have this mess to deal with.

Cincy and Buffalo have heavy fantasy rosters.

Congrats. Yeah I'm glad in the two leagues I commish none of the outcomes were affected even though every team had players from the game.

staylor26 01-03-2023 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kevrunner (Post 16708008)
That’s what we are doing in 1 of my dynasty leagues, just going to use week 18 points instead of Monday’s, 1st place $600. In my other dynasty league, 1st and 2nd just agreed to split pot, pretty even going into Monday’s game, both teams had a QB and WR to go. Team leading by 5 points going into that game is this year’s champion. We play on MFL and that site has already finalized the week with no points at all for Cinn/Buff players.

I just find that solution nonsensical.

Week 18 is totally different matchups. The only way it makes sense to give the Bengals/Bills players points if they resume the game at some point.

Anything else is just trying way too hard to fix something that can't be fixed.

It's unfortunate, and it's not "fair", but this is part of the game. Coming up with more unfair ways to try to fix it doesn't make sense.

wazu 01-03-2023 09:39 PM

League sites seem to mostly be deciding to just award zero points to all players in the game. One site I know of is planning to actually just award whatever points were in the box score Monday night. Most of these sites are saying "but your league can change the points and do whatever you want". It's mass hysteria.

notorious 01-03-2023 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 16708040)
Congrats. Yeah I'm glad in the two leagues I commish none of the outcomes were affected even though every team had players from the game.

Nice.


When guys are saying they are giving their money back, are they talking about the entire season?

Goodness, I would just split the pot for 1st/2nd, 3rd/4th if the game was affected.

BossChief 01-03-2023 09:42 PM

I have Higgins and Bass and am winning the championship game 451.28 to 333.20 and he has/had Josh Allen and Stephon Diggs left.

It’s pretty safe to say I’m going to win the whole thing and the guy currently in second place is fine with whatever we decide and suggested just paying me out (it’s a wta league) but I don’t want to win it that way.

I think I’m going to wait to see what happens and possibly just use stats from the final week to finalize the scores.

Stryker 01-03-2023 09:42 PM

I will win 3rd in my league - great comp this season. I am 28 pts ahead of my comp and she has only Evan McPherson left.

CasselGotPeedOn 01-03-2023 09:44 PM

I'm up 351.25 to 350.5 in the championship. I didn't have anyone left and my opponent had Gabe Davis and the Buffalo defense. :eek:

Not sure exactly what we're going to do at this point.

Skyy God 01-03-2023 09:51 PM

Donating the proceeds to Hamlin’s charity is the easy call.

SAGA45 01-03-2023 09:52 PM

In the league I commish, the losing team went into the Championship matchup down by 22 points with Chase facing Tee Higgins and Gabriel Davis. They also had a 7% win probability at the time the game was suspended. So the decision is pretty easy in my case.

Dunerdr 01-03-2023 09:59 PM

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kevrunner 01-03-2023 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16708065)
I just find that solution nonsensical.

Week 18 is totally different matchups. The only way it makes sense to give the Bengals/Bills players points if they resume the game at some point.

Anything else is just trying way too hard to fix something that can't be fixed.

It's unfortunate, and it's not "fair", but this is part of the game. Coming up with more unfair ways to try to fix it doesn't make sense.

Nothing is going to fix it, but if the owners who are playing in the championship agreed on this, then I don’t see an issue. If the owners didn’t agree we wouldn’t have went this route, we would have did what the MFL hosting site did which was give the team who was winning prior to the Monday night’s game the championship. The owner who was leading and would have been handed 1st place, didn’t want to win that way.

staylor26 01-03-2023 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kevrunner (Post 16708224)
Nothing is going to fix it, but if the owners who are playing in the championship agreed on this, then I don’t see an issue. If the owners didn’t agree we wouldn’t have went this route, we would have did what the MFL hosting site did which was give the team who was winning prior to the Monday night’s game the championship. The owner who was leading and would have been handed 1st place, didn’t want to win that way.

Ok, that's fair. If both owners agreed, that's on them.

It's just weird that people "don't want to win that way".

For instance, my opponent wasn't going to let me wait till week 18 when Hurts is back. He was perfectly fine "winning that way".

Guys go down in championship games every year and give you a dud. We had to deal with COVID in fantasy and people accepted those wins.

Chitownchiefsfan 01-03-2023 10:34 PM

My league is mostly for shit talking and punishments for the loser. None of us take it over seriously.

So the only 2 games that matters is the championship (where one guy has a lead by 60 and the other guy has allen and diggs left) and the loser bowl (where one guy is up 25 but the other has Jamarr chase)

We decided to go the nerd route. If the game isn't played we will just roll some D&D dice based on the percentage chances each person trailing has of making a comeback when play stopped.

lawrenceRaider 01-04-2023 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16707635)
Quit playing FF seems like the most logical solution to me.

D&D for sports dorks.

Of course I've done both over the years.

Jewish Rabbi 01-04-2023 06:14 AM

Another option is to **** Billay’s mom and whoever lasts longer is declared the winner


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