Nate Taylor with a lot of middle-to-big-sized news yesterday.
 

This interview had a lot of nuggets in it. Some small, some medium sized, maybe one huge.

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• "snowglobe" was put together roughly a year ago, and can neither confirm or deny it was a dunk on the Raiders circling the stadium a couple years back
• like the Ferrari plays, "snowglobe" was almost certainly a Mahomes concept before Reid/Bienemy refined it
• Frank Clark is perfectly fine
• the Chiefs want to re-sign JuJu Smith-Schuster
• Brett Veach has been a Justin Watson fan for several years, seems likely he'll re-sign him
• the Chiefs will draft a WR this year at some point
• the Chiefs could very well make an offer to Willie Gay this offseason, but Gay may choose to play out the remainder of his contract anyway
• highly indicated the Chiefs will probably make an offer to L'Jarius Sneed
• probably the biggest news: the Chiefs are going to shop Clyde Edwards-Helaire all offseason and preseason

Thanks for the highlights. Love all of it.

I can shop a used roll of toilet paper. Doesn't mean anyone is going to buy.

Sounds like some good plans. Only thing missing is get another pass rusher and better tackles.

Why would any pro football team give up anything for CEH? That's gonna be a decline 5th year option and walk away scenario.

Kelce confirmed in the New Heights podcast that Snowglobe "Came out of the QB room" so yeah - sure seems to be a Mahomes creation.

And making overtures to extend Sneed and Gay early is absolutely a no-brainer.

Either guy may be better served to bet on themselves and I wouldn't fault them for it, but you make them tell you no if nothing else.

Nobody’s going to trade for the current version of Rashan Shehee, except maybe the donkeys.

Taylor, to his credit, interviewed all 11 players who played that snap.

Humphrey most directly attributed it to Mahomes. Is probably the most amusing part of the interview.

Not sure we even get a dozen eggs for him.

You could’ve gotten top dollar mid 2020

Chiefs will gage interest at the Senior Bowl, and will try to put some good Clyde tape up in the preseason.

If a team loses a RB to injury, someone may call.

Just reporting what he said.

I'd even overpay Snead for sure a bit. If you could get them both locked up early, you could really gain some value.

I'm not sure about Gay. He's really coming on and playing well and you'd like to keep the defense together for sure.

All good news. so CEH is definitely done which is great news for us not for him.

And they won't get shit for CEH they will just have to cut him

I'm torn on JJSS. Seems like a really good value piece but overpaying seems to cap your ceiling a bit.

I dunno. Would really depend on $.

Add a little juice to a CEH swap for D’Andre Swift. He’s also injury prone, and it feels like the lions are kind of over it. He was only getting a third of the snaps to Jamaal Williams

CEH for Swift would be interesting.

Gay and Sneed is speculation and Clark is not "perfectly fine" but probably will be good to go.

Yeah - I mean maybe you could get a 6th rounder for him.

But look at the RBs out of the draft this year. Allgeier in the 5th, Pierce in the 4th, Pacheco in the 7th.

Why would you bother trading for a RB with an injury history, little team control and the biggest salary hit of his contract coming up? He's at $2.1 million for an acquiring team next season ($3.4 for the Chiefs).

A late round rookie will cost maybe $800K and come with 4 years of control.

There's just no reason at all to trade for MEH. He's demonstrated nothing at this level to indicate that he's even a viable 3rd down back, let alone any sort of plus ballcarrier.

My comments aren't at you, Direck. It's at the general idea put forth.

If they can't trade him, they'll probably keep him in the room.

Probably not, have you seen the price of eggs?

Just cut CEH, move on.

Why would Detroit want CEH?

He brings NOTHING that they want or need.

Last 3 games JJSS has had a total of 7 catches and 9 targets. He has disappeared for whatever reason

Taylor isn't Terez, but boy he's close.

Nate's a damn good one. We're lucky to have him on the beat.

Change of scenery?

Baldwin for whatever that 9er WR name was kinda thing?

I don't know.....why the hell would a team give up a first round pick for brokedick Bradley Chubb?

I could envision a conditional pick.

Man, I just don't know about keeping him in the room. You drafted Moore to do what he does, let him do it at a fraction of the cost.

They won't. But the Chiefs shopping him to me means they at least agree with all of us in wanting him gone.

The Juju news is not at all surprising. He’s a 1k receiver that was clearly Patrick’s most trusted receiver not named Kelce. I bet he’d take a fair deal as well.

I bet we could get a 6th or 7th for Clyde, which doesn’t seem like much until you look at the draft record getting guys like Pacheco, Trey and Watson in those rds.

Maybe we can get back that first round pick wasted on CEH?

Only Chiefs fans would believe there isn't a market for CEH. Somebody will want him.

Juju and Kelce have faded with the playoffs coming up.. i suspect they are just trying to get the rest of the crew up to speed.

I get chuckle when CEH is out and the announcers seem to make a big deal of it. That tells me right there they don't actually watch the games and know what is going on most of the time. Dude sucks and if Veach got a 6th round pick out of him he deserves GM of the decade.

I'll pay for one of those Uber XLs so he and Shart can share a ride to the airport...

I agree but I want to hold off on 100% agreeing until we see what JJSS does in the playoffs.

Yeah, that would be fine with me. Gets his $1.3 million in guaranteed salary off the books for 2023. We'd still have to eat his remaining bonus but it isn't that bad.

MEH for a conditional 2024 pick; something like a 6th if he makes the roster and a 5th if he hits certain threshholds? Mostly it's a salary dump with a scratch-off ticket included.

Makes some sense, for sure.

What do you realistically think the Chiefs get for him?

I'm in the camp of no chance of better than a 6th. He's a relatively injury-prone RB who has shown very little at the NFL level. His advanced stats are some of the worst in the league. He was replaced by a 7th round pick and the running game has looked leagues better.

And again, he'd come on a 1 year, $2.1 million deal for an acquiring team.

Ronald Jones signed a 1 year, $1.5 million deal and he's put MUCH more on tape than MEH has.

If you're a team that wants him, you just wait for the Chiefs to cut him. There's just little reason to believe that he'd get his contract value on the open market.

Probably similar to what what other failed 1st rd picks brought their teams.

Jalen Reagor was traded for a 7th and 2024 conditional 4th. I think that’s a decent comp. So probably a 6th or 7th.

I think Minnesota is a good spot for him. McVay tree and they don’t have much behind Dalvin Cook. They have a track record of going after failed 1st rd picks (Raegor and Hockenson).

It wont be much but someone will take a chance on his potential just like KC did.

He doesn't have any potential anymore.

First time following the NFL?

Cutting him frees up less than $1M cap space. Better to keep around for an emergency backup vs just cutting.

Juju had multiple offers from teams and came here at a great price. He’s said he wants to be here so why would you not work with him on a fair contract?

And why does Skyy matter? Do you think the Chiefs should move off Kelce bc Noah Gray can do similar things?

Skyy is multifaceted like a lot of other receivers on the team. This argument has never made sense to me

I love that Reid let's them do "dumb" shit on the side and then incorporates it into the game.

Id take the cap room.

I'm the furthest thing from a CEH fan, but some of you guys are being way too hard on him. He's a former first round pick who has produced at a pretty decent clip for his career. He's averaged 4.4 yards per carry overall which is nothing to sneeze at. The only reason everyone here hates him is because they expected him to be Brian Westbrook and he was taking snaps away from better players. It's not his fault the Chiefs drafted him way too high.

He's put enough on film to warrant some interest, especially in his rookie year. He's a good blocker and decent receiver out of the backfield, someone will flip us a 6th or 7th for him. If not, he's a great guy to have on hand in case of emergency, as long as they don't force him snaps.

Did you actually mean to type this sentence?

Would rather have the roster spot than the player at this point.

He just doesn't provide anything. Give me another 7th round flyer RB over MEH.

Yeah, I'd probably try to convince people my cat was walking on my keyboard if I were him.

Yeah I was going to say...I'd give his ass away to dump his salary, so a conditional pick/salary dump scenario would be perfectly fine with me.

If using sarcasm is the only way to get O.City to realize how bad the argument is, yes.

You trade CEH to Cincy - Burrow connection

CEH had 1 decent year and that was his rookie season. He has been on the steadily decline the last 2 years. Played 10 games last season with 517 yds and 10 games this season with 302 yds. Dude just isn't very good and has been injured all 3 years.

It would be awesome if we got a draft pick out of him but I am not holding my breath.

People discussing CEH in this thread?

CEH's mom?

Fantasy football nerds?

You're most likely correct, but in that case we could do a lot worse for a #3 RB.

I just don't want the guy being forced into a centerpiece type of role, which clearly those days are finally gone. He can stick around for 1 more year.

If we get no takers I think we should just fire CEH...
out of a cannon.

What's he going to do for them that Perine doesn't do better already?

What do we get from him that we can't get from a Ronald Jones type as a #3 RB? Jones is getting paid about half of what CEH is too.

I actually think RoJo has been doing pretty well but there is no chance he is coming back because he wants to play alot more.

I would think the only hope we’d have for CEH would be getting some super late round pick for him, so he can be a reclamation project somewhere else.

Kinda like when we traded a 6th for Mike Hughes and a 7th. Or when we gave a 6th to the Jets for Darron Lee.

It's all a shell game. Paying money to JJSS takes money away from paying it somewhere else, especially when you have a cheap WR on a rookie deal you took in the 2nd round.

If Noah Gray could do what Kelce does at 1/8 of the cost, yeah, you would do that.

This isnt' rocket surgery.

CEH is JAG

He's not worth discussing.

Skyy hasn’t proven that though, which was my point. And this is coming from someone who really likes him.

Juju had over 100 targets. He was easily Patrick’s most trusted receiver after Kelce. There’s a lot of value in that. He also had just under 1k yards despite having trouble being in rhythm the first few games and also missing some from a concussion.

Juju is a quality receiver and if he’s up for a fair deal (which all indicators point to) then why would you not keep him?

If this were MVS I’d whole heartedly agree. But Juju has shown a lot of value here.

He hasn't had the opportunity to prove much, the things he supposedly excels at, is being done by JJSS.

I don't think what JJSS excels at is necessarily a hard thing to find skill wise.


Every one keeps whining on about "build thru the draft, it's the only way". Well, said draft picks have to play otherwise you gain nothing.

Same reason we didn't keep Charvarius Ward.

Sometimes you've gotta make tough decisions even if all the player in question is seeking is a 'fair' deal.

Ward wasn't overpaid by any stretch of the imagination. But we felt we could replace his production with scheme and/or cost controlled players. I think that's exactly the situation we find ourselves in with JJSS.

Looking at the WR free agent market this offseason....why would JJSS sign for less here? It's a barren wasteland.

This is pretty simple of JJSS comes back then MVS is cut..if JJSS tests the market and leaves then MVS is back.

They occupy completely different elements in the offense. I don't understand the want to move away from MVS so quickly.

Because to me his role in this offense can be replaced on the cheap.

That's fine with me, but I just don't know that it's as easy to replace that as JJSS.

We were finding capable guys like Ward from a practice squad, Fenton from the 6th rd, Sneed from the 4th and Breeland from the scrap heap around training camp.

The Chiefs have taken shots at Cornell Powell, Jehu Chesson, Byron Pringle, Demarcus Robinson. None of those guys could fill the Sammy Watkins type role with any effectiveness.

It’s pretty obvious that we haven’t been able to fill Sammy’s shoes ever since he left.

I think Juju is capable of doing here what he did in Pittsburgh in 2019 next season as he gets a full offseason with Patrick.

Nobody was expecting Watson to replace Ward. They were expecting McDuffie to do it and he did.

So now we're not talking about Powell or Chesson here - we're talking about Skyy Moore.

That's your backfill. You know more about him now than you knew about McDuffie when he took the field.

It's big boy pants time for Skyy. And JJSS is such a limited player who runs such basic routes, I see no reason why we couldn't put Moore in that role and get strong production if he's an NFL caliber receiver.

Why wouldn't you want to plug Moore in there? Whats the issue with it?

Cut MVS, sign Watson to let him do the deep stuff that MVS does if you want.

There you go, cheap WR room.

Nothing personal, but good riddance to MEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.