So how much is it gonna cost to extend Chris Jones now?
 

Wheeew boy....gonna cost a pretty penny. LMAO

Doooooo it Veach.

He’s still under contract. His cap hit is just high this last year.

It's not an expense. It's an investment.

At what point is enough, enough? Make your big Mac commercials and win super bowls.

A lot . Hopefully we can work something out for both sides because you definitely build around him.

All of it.

Whew! I was looking for something to worry about.

Chris Jones and his compatriots’ performance tonight have me fully extended

Extend him and lower his cap hit next year.

Profit.

This is the way.

You extend him and the Earth gets knocked off it's axis.

The price could continue to go up. Let us see if he has a couple of sacks in the SB.

Don't care. Pay it.

It will cost half as much as he's worth.

At this point, pay him for services rendered and we’ll figure it out down the line

he deserves it

He doesn't seem like the type that needs to reset the market. I bet he gets his, but it's also a team friendly deal.

His cap hit is 28 million next year. I imagine we try to extend him for another 4-5 years in the off-season.

My heart says this guy never leaves KC. My GM mind says wow... $28 million goes off the books if you do nothing. Hmm...

Franchise tag seems to be in play. I think the money begins with Mahomes's blind side protector, Orlando Brown. Both will likely want $25 million. Paying both is a huge pill to swallow. One thing is for sure, Veach has a plan.

Let's win the SB for Andy first. Ultimate revenge.

Earned it.

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3yrs/100m

Or we trade him and land a Tyreek type haul...

Nah. He deserves it. He already took a cut to stay with the team. And he's now put in his best season yet. All while being double teamed the majority of the season. He's a difference maker. Much more difficult to replace Jones than Tyreek. I mean, look at this season. Everyone said we were straight up in a rebuilding year because of the Tyreek trade. Many picked us at the bottom of our division.. We're going to the ****ing Superbowl.

SIGN CHRIS JONES.

He's 28 years old. He's not some old geezer

A loooooot of tread left on those tires *knock on wood*

Would rather have the player than the draft picks.

This is a guy that got a big payday and has actually gotten better. You pay the guy and you keep him. As amazing a performance that Mahomes had, if it weren’t for Jones we probably don’t win this game.

Jones made it clear. He is a Chief. He felt the disrespect for the stadium when they called it Burrowhead, and he wasn’t going to tolerate it.

They were moving him to both the inside and outside positions tonight to work the mismatches. And it was working. Again, despite the double teams. Dude called out Burrowhead before the game, and absolutely backed it up on the field with authoritie.

/Things I'll worry about after we win the Super Bowl

I remember when people called him "business decision" for being out for a wild card game.

They may have to pay him $3 million an inch per year.

Who cares were going to the super bowl

Pay the man

without his performance we probably don't go to the Superbowl this year, pay the man

he's already been paid once and didn't suck like many lineman do, so you can trust him

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Do this and trade OBJ, the 2 will balance each other out if not save us some considerable cash.

The rookie we get at LT will probably be as good as Orlando was this season anyways. If we save enough we might can sign a RT to have Wylie **** off finally.

Ask me this question after the Super Bowl, because right now I couldn't be paid enough money to care about the answer.

give him
whatever
he
wants

We finally agree !!:thumb:

Give him the bag. Just make sure the last few years are voidable w/o major cap implications.

Dudes earned it.

One more baller game, CJ. One more!

He wants to play here. He grew up dirt poor. Pay that man fair market value and he will accept it. Don't lowball him, because he is too good of a player, and one of the best Chiefs players ever, to disrespect like that.

Dominant defensive tackles are rare. We have one so we should keep him.

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You pay Jones Aaron Donald money and don’t even think twice. OBJ can get out of here

The final two drives in particular he was a beast — pushing two guys backwards from the snap right back into Burrow. It was beautiful.

You absolutely extend him and take the money you save next season to get a DE in free agency as well while you bring along whatever DE you take in the draft. We’ll have plenty of salary cap space so don’t sweat it.

Jones backed the ****ing truck up yesterday

When he is up to sign, I do not see him getting Aaron Donald money but it's going to cost. Lets hope he is willing to take a home town discount.

For all those who doubted him, Chris Jones is special.

You pay special and go cheap elsewhere.

Yep. I'm paying him.

And I know that probably means I'm letting Bolton, and probably Gay, and maybe even Sneed all walk.

I'm paying Jonesy, and building around he and Karlaftis up front.

Get this man extended. :rockon:

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Make it happen Bert Veach...

What's is CP's obsession with not paying elite players?

Not necessary if you trade OBJ. If you cut Frank, there's another 20M.

See: Berry and Houston deals.

Chris Jones' impact at his position is just so damb valuable.

Tyreek's value was replaced by solid mid-tier guys ONLY because we have Mahomes at QB and Reid calling plays. Mahomes elevates their level of play so much so that you can get away with not having Tyreek.

But the same is not the case on Defense. Chris Jones IS THE GUY that elevates everyone else on the defensive side of the ball. He's the anchor, the centerpiece that you build around.

I simply do not see how you can replace him with 3-4 mid-tier guys and get the same value.

KC never achieved ANY playoff success with those two on the roster, so a little apples to oranges comparison there. Yes, those contracts were mistakes. But it wasn’t so much about the contracts themselves but the timing of those two contracts. They waited a year too late on Justin Houston and Eric Berry probably should have not been given another contract, but they would have looked like heels with the whole cancer thing. They just waited a year too long on him too.

A Chris Jones extension would not be a mistake. He has shown up big time in two Super Bowl runs: 2019 and this one. It’s no coincidence his play in 2019 was a BIG part of the 4th quarter comeback against the Niners. His play last night is probably the biggest reason we are in our 3rd Super Bowl in 4 years.

Give the man the bag. He’s earned it. Just make sure there’s a couple voidable years at the end so you’re not locked into more than 3 years on an extension and we’re good. Cut Clark and move on from OBJ and you’re still good to lock up Sneed and one of the LBer’s (Gay or Bolton) long term.

Make it happen, Vartch.

Same as it would have cost.

It took a special sort of stupid to believe that Jones wasn't playing well in the post-season prior to Sunday.

Jones and his agent weren't that stupid, nor is Veach.

His market was always going to be a 're-set' sort of contract if he wanted it. He was already playing at a hall of fame level.

Most definitely.

On the Herd today Sean Payton compared Jones last night to Jefferson in Fast Times at Ridgemont High. LMAO

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Guys' bodies breaking down isn't really anyone's fault.

Jones is the type of player, like an elite QB or LT, that should never hit free agency.

I do hope they can extend Jones. But, yea, isn't guys bodies breaking down one of the reasons to 'get rid of'/trade guys a year or two early than a year or two late?

Two or three good players probably won't replace a healthy Jones, but at least you aren't putting all your eggs in one basket as far as injuries/health...

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Pay not an issue. Hamstring the roster because of one guy is an issue.

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LMAO


"oooooh shit"

That was pure genius by Spiccoli, I admit.

He’s an awesome guy too. Not that it matters m, but I just wanted to mention it.


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This.

I know it’s wishful thinking. But with the cincy rivalry awakening something new in mahomes I wonder if this is the deal where he takes one to make sure Chris jones stays in kc.

The question was why are fans gunshy about extending big deals to stars. Berry and Houston are exactly why.

LMAO how super bowls Jones been to? Without him we don't beat the 49ers and definitely don't win last night

Well, that is dumb. Houston’s balky knees and Eric Berry’s spirits have nothing to do with Chris Jones, who is an elite player at a premium position and in his prime.

If it comes down to Jones, OBJ, or Sneed. You pay Jones. Easy decision. OBJ has been playing well lately too and Sneed is damn good but Barnes Bleach can find good CBs anywhere.

BB would trade him right now . This is the Most he would ever be worth.

If we could get two 1's and a 3 or 4 I'd have to consider.

I hope we get a team friendly deal done and he stays but if we do the Tyreek type trade I can understand. Veach can draft!

Also...I know they dont play the same position but Justin Houston is 34 and has been very productive ever since leaving the Chiefs and he was even older when he left us. I dont see why Jones cant have the same trajectory as he ages.

Id take that deal too.

At the end of the day its all up to Veach and I trust whatever decision he makes. He's the GOAT GM right now. The emotional part of me believes he's just too valuable to trade. Literal potential HOFer.

The Tyreek and Jones situations are vastly different. We don't have a Mahomes on defense to make up for the deficiencies left by the removal of Jones. Those draft picks would be great but not at the expense of losing the guy who would literally be the best player on just about every defense in the league.

This is kind of where I was at but I've fallen back to the surround him with more talent camp.

Trading a DT doesn't generally net as much as trading an edge rusher does. The best ones traded, Seymour and Buckner, each only yielded a 1st round pick and nothing more.

The 49ers didn't have to struggle with replacing Buckner all that much because they still had Armstead and just drafted Bosa the year before.

The Pats struggled for several years defensively after trading Seymour.

At the time BossChief posted his poll in the Lounge, this was already being discussed in the draft forum more critically. At that time, 3/81 was where I thought I'd draw the line and then try to trade.

I don't think that's probably the right way to go about it but there probably should be a point where it becomes somewhat detrimental to a team to spend too much. And certainly, I still believe there is strength in more quality over singular greatness but the Chiefs do still have the ability to add quality next to Jones without breaking the cap.

Any Jones extension at this point probably starts at no less than 29 per and only goes up from there. This will be his last major payday. If I'm going for it, I'd try to get a 4-year extension that brings him through his age 33 season more to spread bonus money out than anything. I do think the deal would reach a top-out of 32 per.

Jones is absolutely a unicorn player but I do agree with you that if a team offered two 1's and a 3, I'd have to pause and consider it. That's the type of deal that can absolutely alter a roster for the future. You're never replacing Chris in that situation but you can still be good if you sign the right FA and you're adding 3 first-round picks to a team that's already really good. Tough to pass up.

Overall I trend against paying players. Most players at most positions. But Jones is a slam-dunk Chief for life. Not only is he super elite on the field, he's A++++ off it, and we can easily trust he'll still be giving 110% in 3, 4, 5 years down the line.

Does the cap announcement of 224 million, up from 208 this year, change anyone's thoughts?

Agreed, he's the PMII of the D. He's a smart guy and I'm pretty sure he's not chasing a few million on a 8-9 team when he has a chance to have a ring on every finger. Make it a fair deal for everyone involved and move on.