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ESPN insider names Texans LT Laremy Tunsil as Chiefs trade target
(https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=347950)
ESPN insider names Texans LT Laremy Tunsil as Chiefs trade target
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https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2023...laremy-tunsil/ ESPN insider names Texans LT Laremy Tunsil as Chiefs trade target Could the Kansas City Chiefs go back to the trade market to find their left tackle of the future? One ESPN insider is watching a particular player closely if that’s the case. ESPN’s Dan Graziano recently helped compile some last-minute free agency and trade buzz with the NFL’s legal tampering period kicking off at noon tomorrow. He mentioned that Houston Texans LT Laremy Tunsil could be a trade target for Kansas City if they’re unable to get a long-term deal done with Orlando Brown Jr. ahead of Monday. Check it out: Quote:
First, Houston would need to decide that they did not want to pay Tunsil a long-term contract extension. That would be a bold move considering they’re expected to draft a rookie quarterback and nothing is better for a rookie quarterback than an established left tackle. Second, the two sides would have to agree on trade compensation. Would the Chiefs really be willing to potentially give up a first-round draft pick in 2023 (and potentially more) for Tunsil when they’re hosting the draft in Kansas City? Next up, the Chiefs and Tunsil’s representation would need to first agree to a contract extension that would lower his 2023 salary cap hit. Right now, his cap hit would put the team over the cap. Finally, Kansas City must view Tunsil as their “long-term solution” at left tackle. Will they envision him as such when he’ll be 29 years old in Week 1 of 2023? There is certainly nothing wrong with his ability — in three of the past four seasons, he’s been among PFF’s highest-graded pass-blocking offensive tackles. They should have no problem paying for that production, but would it be for more than one contract? It’s hard to say. When you draft a rookie in the first round, you get five years of control (fifth-year option), plus a likely sixth year of control through the franchise tag. Then you have the potential of re-signing that player to a long-term deal afterward. There are certainly benefits to trading for Tunsil, but given what we’re hearing about what the Chiefs want out of the left tackle position this offseason, a trade might not be the route they take. |
It was in the OBJ tag thread but it needed its own.
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PFF says he has slipped in run blocking but he’s elite in pass blocking:
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How on earth can the Chiefs make this deal without sacrificing their 1st?
You gotta think Clark would nix any deal that kills their 1st this year. |
I would be fine with a 2nd this year and a 1st plus a 3rd in 2024. I'd also be fine with extending him to a 4-5 year deal at what we were offering OBJ. Not sure if Tunsil would take that though.
But I would also be fine sending a 2nd round pick to GB for Njiman. |
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So when he got traded back in 2019, he (along with Kenny Stills and some bullshit) cost two 1st round picks and a 2nd.
He's now 4 years older, has a larger cap hit and is going to need a new high end deal. Not sure he's worth anywhere close to what he was back in 2019. |
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The Chiefs 100% tell him what they’re doing. |
Don’t love the idea of trading for a 29 year old LT but Bart has earned our trust at this point.
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Trent Williams is 34 and the best LT in the league.
Tunsil would fit our offense much better than OBJr does. |
if we really are trading for tunsil it's because they don't like any of the OTs in the first or second round
in that event you're pretty much left with only one option and you gotta rip the bandaid off |
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I'd be interested to see what Tunsil wants since he's said that he wants to "reset the LT market".
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It's interesting even though I find it hard to believe, but there's definitely some smoke.
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Between the Chris jones restructure and not at least tagging obj (they’d rather have money available instead) seems to indicate we’re trying to immediately free up space to make some moves. This would certainly make sense.
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Trade for Tunsil using next years 1st, let Niang and a mid round pick this year fight it out for the RT spot, and position ourselves to draft John Alt’s son in 2 years where you can play him at RT until Tunsil’s extended contract runs out.
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The contract and trade cost seem likely to be high, and it also involves a bet that a guy who will turn 30 before the season can still turn in 3-4 years of elite production and stay healthy, which he hasn’t always. I’m not against it, just concerned about the costs. |
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I'll take Tunsil over Brown for sure and pay him close to what Brown wanted. He actually is a premium pass protector, not merely solid. |
Chiefs would want to know if Tunsil would extend on team-friendly deal before giving more assets here.
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We hear so many rumors that I don't know what to believe. I'm pretty much out on guys that want to "reset the market" when we have guys already on the team we'll have to let go to pay for that reset.
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Isn’t there some team that would give up more than us - who have the last draft pick in every round - for a player like Tunsil given how the FA/draft class looks? I have no doubt we’d have interest. I just doubt we’d be able to outbid other teams. |
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We can make it work. And I don’t see why we’d hold back for 5 years from now when we still have kelce and Reid. |
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You pay Tunsil and while he might not be the all around talent Trent Williams is, Tunsil is by far the best pass blocking LT in the NFL.
There is NO better LT in the league for Reid's system! Could they use CEH or MVS? 2024 1st + one or both of CEH/MVS? Could also make a splash and trade: This trade is actually spot on trade chart points wise! Texans get: 2023 #31 2024 1st 2025 1st Chiefs get: Tunsil #12 At #12 take our pass rusher or WR or whatever. Texans take the picks to rebuild. |
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Do you think we could trade CEH for Tiger Woods, The Sacramento Kings and Aaron Donald if we throw in a 2nd rounder in 2030?
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Total BS. The Texans have ZERO interest in trading Tunsil. All the bad blood of the past has been worked out, and he is a team captain now. He is happy there and they are happy with him. They are in the market for a franchise quarterback either this year or next, and the last thing they're going to is trade one if the top LT's in the league, because they're going to soon need him to protect their franchise QB. It would have to to be an outrageous trade offer in order for them to do it. And I don't see Veach doing that at all.
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Step 1. Pass the football Step 2. Step 3. CONTENDERS As for Veach, Mahomes is really good at scrambling. Forget the TB game or his bum ankle. Kid doesn't need much. |
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But of course you have to come in with "ACKSHUALLLLY" :rolleyes: |
Hasn’t Reid never started a rookie LT?
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So if OBJ decides he gets a better deal somewhere else is there any way for us to sign and trade him to recoup value?
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We will very likely get a 3rd round comp pick next year Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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2. 29 is young for the LT position. Different positions have different life spans. Tackles and QBs can play into their late 30’s-early 40’s. |
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Tunsil for a 2nd?
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In addition, the fact that Veach hit so well last year’s draft gives KC the luxury to give up draft capital in 23, 24, and 25. The fact is we don’t need all of our picks for the next 3 years. You can give some up, especially if it means locking in a top tier offensive tackle to go with the best QB we’ve ever seen.
My guess: Chiefs get: Laremy Tunsil Houston ‘23 2nd Rnd (#33) Texans get: Clyde Edwards-Helaire KC ‘24 2nd Rnd KC ‘24 3rd Rnd KC ‘25 2nd Rnd KC ‘25 3rd Rnd |
Chiefs trade: Clyde Edwards-Helaire
Chiefs receive: Laremy Tunsil |
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Chiefs will then have #31 and #33 to move up in the 1st round to get either an edge or a WR.
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31 and a 3rd probably gets it done (hopefully 2024 3rd)
If this really what the Texans want to do then fine. He’s an elite pass protector. Better than any LT we’ve had since Willie Roaf. |
This is a dude piecing things together. It's not something he's heard from a source. Most on this site could come up with this ground breaking content. I'm not a mega thread guy, but this is the type of stuff that should go into that. It's not news. It's just some dudes opinion.
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Veach hitting on draft picks does not give us the luxury of trading away or giving up picks in future drafts. That is just stupid. We have and will continue to have too many high-value contracts to give up any damn thing. CEH is not worth more than a 6th rounder. There is NO chance that we get Tunsil and their 33rd overall pick while giving nothing back this year. They don't need an RB at all they have Pierce. I don't believe that this trade even happens. It just costs us too much capital in draft and financial. |
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Chiefs get: Laremy Tunsil HOU ‘23 first round (#12) Texans get: Clyde Edwards Helaire KC ‘23 first round (#31) KC ‘24 second round KC ‘24 third round KC ‘25 second round KC ‘25 third round and perhaps a ‘23 4th or 5th. |
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31 and next years 2 and forget about the LT spot for the next 5/6 years
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if the trade makes sense and doesn’t fleece the lint out of our assholes. Then fine I’m good with it. Trading tons of picks for 30 year old Wrs cause we can’t win a superbowl with our current core of Wrs is Alex smith desperate. We’ve been smart. No need to go full Reerun just because CP. |
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