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Chief Roundup 03-24-2023 05:40 PM

In Your Opinion what is the biggest need going into the draft
 
As of right now what is the biggest need going into the draft as things stand right now?

OT or DE or WR

ChiefsFan63 03-24-2023 05:42 PM

OT. We have nothing proven on one side or the other. Keeping The Franchise upright is the of paramount importance.

Hoover 03-24-2023 05:44 PM

OT

It will be difficult not to address it with our first pick.

jd1020 03-24-2023 05:44 PM

BPA

Archie Bunker 03-24-2023 05:44 PM

Tackle

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-24-2023 05:45 PM

WR

ThyKingdomCome15 03-24-2023 05:45 PM

EDGE

In58men 03-24-2023 05:46 PM

Losing Burton was a pretty big blow, so I’d go FB.

Megatron96 03-24-2023 05:47 PM

WR, duh.

cmh6476 03-24-2023 05:50 PM

It's not QB

Tribal Warfare 03-24-2023 05:50 PM

For pure need, it would be a Frachise LT, but with the talent available it's passrushers

Chief Roundup 03-24-2023 06:01 PM

We lost both our starting tackles and only replaced one. So we still need an OT the worst.
I appreciate JuJu but he should not be that hard to replace.

emaw1979 03-24-2023 06:05 PM

DE. Particularly a speed rusher. They don't have one on the roster and out biggest competition in the AFC has a new LT that couldn't block speed to save his life. After that DT.

I'd say WR but I don't trust Veach to draft one and I don't trust the coaching staff to coach him.

stumppy 03-24-2023 06:05 PM

WR OT DE

Bump 03-24-2023 06:05 PM

I have zero faith in Niang, so probably OT. But if there isn't one worth taking or one that they don't think is ready to play. Then take a WR, edge or DT that is worthy of the pick.

Bwana 03-24-2023 06:06 PM

OT

Stryker 03-24-2023 06:09 PM

OT seems obvious. I think we will go WR next.

493rd 03-24-2023 06:13 PM

WR, Edge, OT

Pepe Silvia 03-24-2023 06:15 PM

Don’t draft a RB in the first and I’m happy.

Couch-Potato 03-24-2023 06:16 PM

OT, DE, WR, NT = Tier 1

RB, OG, TE = Tier 2

QB, DB = Tier 3

HemiEd 03-24-2023 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 16874730)
OT seems obvious. I think we will go WR next.

This

Jewish Rabbi 03-24-2023 06:30 PM

Backup QB

tredadda 03-24-2023 06:31 PM

OT

comochiefsfan 03-24-2023 06:31 PM

BPA at either OT, Edge or WR

Chief Roundup 03-24-2023 06:53 PM

Some people might really be flipping out if we take an OT early and an IOL in the upper mid-rounds.

TwistedChief 03-24-2023 07:06 PM

Biggest need as it stands right now is WR but not sure there’s going to be great value there when we pick, so go with BPA.

Pitt Gorilla 03-24-2023 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16874858)
Biggest need as it stands right now is WR but not sure there’s going to be great value there when we pick, so go with BPA.

Agreed. That could be a WR, OT, DE, TE.

MarkDavis'Haircut 03-24-2023 07:52 PM

QB

ChiefsFanatic 03-24-2023 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16874858)
Biggest need as it stands right now is WR but not sure there’s going to be great value there when we pick, so go with BPA.

I have said this before, but if Johnston or Smith-Njigba fall anywhere near 20, I hope we make a move to get one of them.

If we pick at 31 (really 32) and Flowers is there, then maybe we take him. However, if we don't move up or down, there should be some athletic defensive linemen available.

And if we moved up to snag Will McDonald instead of a receiver, I would only be upset if Johnston or Smith-Njigba was available. McDonald looked great at the combine.

kccrow 03-24-2023 08:09 PM

The biggest need vs draft order preferences may be two entirely different animals.

In terms of biggest NEEDS, here's my take:

1. DT. Derrick Nnadi was certifiably horrendous and there's nothing of substance there outside of him. Wharton is a lackluster situational player as well and Shelton is a shell of his former self at this stage. Not to mention, every DT on the roster is in the final year of their deal. We need help next to Jones.

2. Pass-Catching RB/Short-area Weapon. McKinnon was absolute nails last year with over 500 yards receiving and 9 TDs. If he's not brought back, that level of production isn't easily replaced and the two guys that are projected to do it best in the draft are 1st and 2nd round prospects, though Evan Hall is intriguing later on. For all of the talk about WR, this guy was your #4 most productive receiving option behind Kelce, JuJu, and MVS.

3. OT. I would have it higher on the list if not for two major things... Tega Wanogho was a highly touted prospect coming out but came with major dedication questions. I think dedication may have been answered and we just might be sleeping on a late bloomer al a Jason Peters with this kid. Not only that, KC signed Taylor to play "either" spot and Niang was a 3rd round pick that played pretty well when he was available. I'm more inclined to think Veach just brings in more competition and depth, which is definitely a need at this point. If he goes OT early, I think it's a big splash to land a franchise LT higher in the round.

4. WR. Depth is a definite concern, whereas penciled-in starters aren't necessarily the greatest need. You definitely need to hedge your bets against Toney's injury potential and Moore's ability to ascend but where that price point is is up for debate. I think a reasonably-priced veteran and another rookie in the pipe is the way to go.

5. DE. There is a severe lack of quality depth behind Karlaftis and Omenihu, which leaves little wiggle room for injury. I do trust Veach to add another aging veteran to the group as he's done in each season to date but it would be nice to get a player for the future following Omenihu and as an upgrade to Danna as a situational pass rusher when you kick Omenihu down inside. You'd also like to find a depth piece that can function in a similar role to Omenihu.

Coochie liquor 03-24-2023 09:18 PM

Protect Mahomes at all costs!! LT is our biggest need. I trust in Veach, but it’s a bit worrisome!

BWillie 03-24-2023 09:44 PM

WR
Edge
RT
TE
S
DT
CB
OG
LB
C
QB
K
P

bigjosh 03-24-2023 09:46 PM

Im going to forego saying wide receiver and say pass catcher.

We need to add more talent at either wr or te.

Need more DT help

Then BPA

GloucesterChief 03-24-2023 09:50 PM

OT
DT
WR
DE
RB
TE
Backup IOL
4th Safety
3rd String QB

BossChief 03-24-2023 10:17 PM

Our pass rush was pretty damn good and we upgraded from Franks spot. We have a perceived pressing need at DT, but Karlaftis, Omenihu and Wharton all move around the DL so I wouldn’t say a pass rusher would be the biggest NEED. I’d absolutely say that it’s a place you’d likely get the best ROI on a big investment due to the coaching situation coupled with the existing pass rush talent in house.

My dream scenario in this draft is Carter dropping out of the top 10 and Veach swinging for the fences to move up to get him shortly after.

That would make our DL in the conversation for one of, if not THE best in conference.

Karlaftis/Danna
Jones/Shelton
Carter/Wharton/Nnadi
Omenihu/cheap vet like Dunlap/Suggs **cmon Houston, come home for one last ride and get a ring.** -opens arms-

Next you’d have to consider OT. I still think Niang will turn it around and start to show promise this year…but in no way can you wager a championship season on that hope. Tego showed some good ability out there, but I’m not sold on him. I like Taylor more the more I watch him work. This kid is a perfect fit and will definitely help our screen game come alive again. That’s the biggest thing. He moves so well (like Fisher) it allows Andy to utilize more of the playbook. I’m not at all sold that they plan on him playing LT. If an athletic, starting quality LT makes it to the 20s, Veach is moving up just like when he went up to get McDuffie.

I’d have no problem with a move like that, either. If we can lock up the offensive tackle spots with young and athletic players, that will help this offense open up a lot more ways to attack defenses….but I’m also totally ok taking a kid in the 2nd or 3rd, either. They could probably line up tomorrow with an above average offensive line, so adding a stud LT would absolutely bring them into conversation for best OL unit in the nfl. Protecting Mahomes with additional resources will pay dividends.

The third position group you have to talk about is IMO the one that requires the most attention which is WR. You simply can’t DEPEND on any of them. Toney has missed about half his career -going back to Florida- to injury. Skyy Moore is a small school kid still acclimating, but hasn’t “gone out and taken a grown man’s job”. He will get tons of opportunities to do so, going forward but him playing great can’t be counted on. MVS is completely inconsistent. We don’t even know if Watson will be back or not.

I’d be a fan of picking a guy like Flowers at 31 unless we have an opportunity to make a strategic trade up to get a blue chip guy.

alanm 03-25-2023 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16874686)
BPA

This. All day every draft. Drafting for need is what shitty teams do. :harumph:

AussieChiefsFan 03-25-2023 01:53 AM

OT, WR and DL

T-post Tom 03-25-2023 02:16 AM

WR

OT

Red Dawg 03-25-2023 04:36 AM

More fatties. Always the LOS.

Hydrae 03-25-2023 06:57 AM

I have felt since the end of the regular season that Clark wants a splash with the draft in KC. I will be surprised if we don't make a pretty major trade up in the first. To get the most splash, taking a WR. Both lines may be more important in a lot of ways but a WR will get the headlines.

Couch-Potato 03-25-2023 07:00 AM

Can we get a poll?

DaFace 03-25-2023 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16875203)
Can we get a poll?

Sure. Added.

Zebedee DuBois 03-25-2023 08:52 AM

I can't decide between WR DE and OT.

JohnnyHammersticks 03-25-2023 08:55 AM

Edge/DE

kcfan75 03-25-2023 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsFan63 (Post 16874684)
OT. We have nothing proven on one side or the other. Keeping The Franchise upright is the of paramount importance.

This, if we don't have a DE or WR it will kind of suck. If we have to play the season out with Buechele at QB, that will REALLY suck.

Lzen 03-25-2023 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 16874769)
BPA at either OT, Edge or WR

This is the best answer, IMO.

ntexascardfan 03-25-2023 09:51 AM

I chose QB.

Iconic 03-25-2023 10:23 AM

EDGE

We have shown the ability to make due with average WRs, RT, and S but say what you want about Frank Clark - we have no one across Karlaftis right now. That's an actual hole unless Brett can plug it before the draft.

In order I'd say:
1. EDGE
2. WR
3. OT
4. S/DT

Rausch 03-25-2023 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 16875343)
This is the best answer, IMO.

Same here.

I wasn't wanting a WR or LT high in the draft but our options are slim at this point. I could see them taking RT. I don't care where we draft a WR because it's pretty clear that guy isn't getting starting snaps anyway.

I'm holding out hope that we make a trade commonly seen on draft day: no one knew that player X was even on the block but during round one was traded. There's a lot of these trades that teams don't want info leaking to the media because it may not pan out and then player X is pissed off and still there.

I think that happens with LT or WR honestly. Veach let two WR's go on very affordable deals. He's got something planned.

The Franchise 03-25-2023 10:51 AM

Taylor is your LT. Barring one of the top two falling....drafting a LT isn't going to happen. Not sure why people can't come to grips with that.

PHOG 03-25-2023 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 16874769)
BPA at either OT, Edge or WR

Yup, was going to post this. But it's already been said several times.

Rausch 03-25-2023 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16875430)
Taylor is your LT. Barring one of the top two falling....drafting a LT isn't going to happen. Not sure why people can't come to grips with that.

Shouldn't happen.

Just like we shouldn't have drafted MEH in the first round.

Veach is great but he ain't perfect...

Chief Roundup 03-25-2023 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16875430)
Toney is your WR#1. Barring one of the top two falling....drafting a WR isn't going to happen. Not sure why people can't come to grips with that.


Can both of these things be true at the same time? They are both things that have come from the Chiefs.

oldman 03-25-2023 04:05 PM

I went DE. I think WRs and RTs can be found in the 2nd. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see Veach trade some of those Day 3 picks in order to move up into Day 2.

Basileus777 03-25-2023 04:12 PM

We have a bottom 10 WR corps right now. People are reading the wrong things from last season if they think the takeaway should be Mahomes and Kelce are enough by themselves.

Couch-Potato 03-25-2023 04:13 PM

Thank you

The Franchise 03-25-2023 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 16875529)
Can both of these things be true at the same time? They are both things that have come from the Chiefs.

Now show me where Taylor has missed games in his career like Toney has.

Couch-Potato 03-25-2023 04:15 PM

Felt like OT or DL a week or so ago, but we have guys with experience there. Tony and Moore going into next season still feel a bit green to me.

Chiefshrink 03-25-2023 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 16875503)
Veach is great but he ain't perfect...

Nope, and AR calls the shots period Veach may come up with many scenarios but AR approves all scenarios. Veach is no lone gun I assure you.;)

PAChiefsGuy 03-25-2023 04:38 PM

DE.

That said I think Veach should just go best player available there's no real huge need.

Chief Roundup 03-25-2023 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16875724)
Now show me where Taylor has missed games in his career like Toney has.

That has nothing to do with what has put out by the Chiefs.

oldman 03-25-2023 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 16875748)
Nope, and AR calls the shots period Veach may come up with many scenarios but AR approves all scenarios. Veach is no lone gun I assure you.;)

Veach is going to get what Andy wants. It may not be the guy Andy wants, but it will be where he thinks we need help.

Rasputin 03-25-2023 11:36 PM

It's funny when we do go with BPA we get bashed by pundits for not picking player of need. They also always mock draft player of need.



I do think LT is our greatest need but I trust Blake Vooch in picking the best players fit for the Chiefs as he values them.

1COOLDOG 03-27-2023 07:51 PM

Where is the lame "the best athlete on the board" option?

htismaqe 03-28-2023 11:22 AM

31 people still believe our biggest need is OT. ROFL

htismaqe 03-28-2023 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16875430)
Taylor is your LT. Barring one of the top two falling....drafting a LT isn't going to happen. Not sure why people can't come to grips with that.

Exactly. Taylor is the LT. People are dreaming if they think we're drafting a LT.

Megatron96 03-28-2023 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16879225)
31 people still believe our biggest need is OT. ROFL

Buddy, we got people in here that think we have a top-10 WR room as-is.:rolleyes:

Balto 03-28-2023 11:56 AM

Gotta go BPA between OL, WR and DL

BUT

I don't think we are talking about DT and Jones enough.

YES Jones just said he wants to be in KC for his entire career but this could also mean negotiations for a extension isn't going well and Veach has a history of not resetting a positions market..Hill and OBJ for example.

Veach has also shown that when he thinks a player is playing their last season in KC he will draft a replacement a year early.

I think DT could be a very real possibility for our first pick even if Veach plans to try and keep Jones.

Now I don't think Veach would actually trade Jones in a package to move up high enough to get a guy like Carter BUT it wouldn't blind side me either......I mean the Cards biggest need is a Pass rushing DT!

Mecca 03-28-2023 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16879225)
31 people still believe our biggest need is OT. ROFL

Yea I don't get that shit, people have like PTSD or something.

Mecca 03-28-2023 11:58 AM

You wanna argue WR, sure, I'll listen to Mazi Smith at 31 I'll listen to a speed edge at 31 but this OT thing makes no sense to me.

htismaqe 03-28-2023 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balto (Post 16879281)
Gotta go BPA between OL, WR and DL

BUT

I don't think we are talking about DT and Jones enough.

YES Jones just said he wants to be in KC for his entire career but this could also mean negotiations for a extension isn't going well and Veach has a history of not resetting a positions market..Hill and OBJ for example.

Veach has also shown that when he thinks a player is playing their last season in KC he will draft a replacement a year early.

I think DT could be a very real possibility for our first pick even if Veach plans to try and keep Jones.

Now I don't think Veach would actually trade Jones in a package to move up high enough to get a guy like Carter BUT it wouldn't blind side me either......I mean the Cards biggest need is a Pass rushing DT!

The reason there haven't really been any big-time trades this offseason is because nobody wants to give multiple high picks AND pay a big salary. I highly doubt there's a big market for Jones right now.

The Franchise 03-28-2023 11:59 AM

It’s the “protect Mahomes at all costs” argument.

Mahomes is going to get hit. It’s how he plays the game. Having 5 1st round picks on the offensive line isn’t going to stop that. It will give him more time right after the snap but it’s not like offensive linemen win every snap. There are still times when he’s going to get hit.

Mecca 03-28-2023 12:06 PM

Protecting Mahomes at all costs actually means getting him guys that can get open, when he hits his back foot and has to keep patting the ball or scramble around to find someone means we have a weapons issue.

Balto 03-28-2023 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16879301)
Protecting Mahomes at all costs actually means getting him guys that can get open, when he hits his back foot and has to keep patting the ball or scramble around to find someone means we have a weapons issue.

So then we talking Speed weapons or the best route running guys we can find? Of course both in one player is best but rare

ChiTown 03-28-2023 12:20 PM

Given what we have on our depth chart, I went with WR. Assuming we don't make any additional moves before the Draft, I have to believe a WR in Rd 1 is a strong possibility to happen

Mecca 03-28-2023 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balto (Post 16879313)
So then we talking Speed weapons or the best route running guys we can find? Of course both in one player is best but rare

I'd take Josh Downs before I took another OT.

Rain Man 03-28-2023 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16879301)
Protecting Mahomes at all costs actually means getting him guys that can get open, when he hits his back foot and has to keep patting the ball or scramble around to find someone means we have a weapons issue.

Good point.

Rain Man 03-28-2023 12:41 PM

I thought long and hard about this for 30 seconds, and wondered if I would be an outlier by picking WR. Apparently not.

We have a few needs, but the beautiful part is that the team is so strong that even our needs aren't vital. I think we draft the best WR available to give Patrick Mahomes II more options.

Megatron96 03-28-2023 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balto (Post 16879313)
So then we talking Speed weapons or the best route running guys we can find? Of course both in one player is best but rare

Elite speed guys are not often the best route runners, so we're probably looking for a technician; a WR with great footwork at the release/hand-fighting capabilities, coupled with very good quickness. Decent speed, not rare speed.

TripleThreat 03-28-2023 12:47 PM

I want to say Defense, but I'm concerned that last years run might make the coaches and front office really start trying to dig for the outcast WR's since Mahomes just elevates the receivers that much.

It's hard to see us drafting a WR again when we just took Moore in the second round, but losing both JuJu and hardman and then going into the season with three guys that while are promising, are still unknown besides Marquez and Marquez is/should be our 3rd receiver.

So I'll say WR, but I believe it will be defense and I won't be too mad about it.

I'd also like to see WR round 1, and then all defense, whichever way.


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