What length of prison sentence would make you saw off your ankle monitor and flee?
 

Hypothetical here, completely hypothetical.

Let's assume that you committed a crime and you were 99.5 percent certain that you were going to be convicted. Since you've never had so much as a traffic ticket prior to this issue, the judge decides that you can stay home with an ankle monitor while awaiting trial.

You can certainly opt to do the time since you did the crime. However, you look out your window and see the open road, and the only things between you and potential freedom is that device on your ankle and a likelihood that you'll be caught if you go to most places worth going to.

If you're facing a one-night jail sentence, you're probably not going to jump bail and flee. If you're facing the death sentence, it might be worth it to take a shot at building a new life somewhere else with a fake name and social security number. Somewhere in between lies the tipping point between staying and fleeing.

What's the SHORTEST sentence that you would face where you would decide to take your chances hopping on freight trains and working for cash with a floppy-brimmed hat over your face?

Poll coming as soon as the jury returns.

And if you would choose to flee, what would your plan be once you chew off your foot or otherwise remove the ankle bracelet?



Rules clarification:

1. The amounts in your poll are the actual time served. Don't assume that you'll get time off for good behavior to shorten it.
2. Of course, if you get caught fleeing you'll get additional charges and time as appropriate.

Which ankle?

~6 hours. I have a short fuse, and wearing that thing would just piss me off...

I spent less than 24 hours in a jail cell and it was enough to straighten me out. Can’t even imagine spending a lifetime in those places.

10 years or more.

I would be prime (dead) meat in prison.

So maybe anything more than a week??

Anybody get to you yet?

That's about where I'm at. 5 year sentence, you could still rebuild. Not too much would be different when you got out. You get up around 10 years, fck that. I'm running

I initially picked 20 years based on how old I'd be 20 years from now, but after thinking about a decade of ass rape, I should've chose 10 years.

Then again, one day of ass rape doesn't sound like a walk in the park...

As the ultimate alpha of our species, I fear no prison sentence. I'd be running the place within 24 hours.

Your non-kicking foot. Putting it on your kicking foot would be cruel and unusual punishment.

You are not sawing your ankle off...

I put way more thought into this than I should have on a Tuesday work morning.

If I can go to a place to get it removed, obviously that would be my first choice and then flee.

For the sake of your question, I would cut it off. a few years ago I wouldn't have but now with the ability to work from home, do online scams, whatever from all over the globe, I'd simply go that route, and live modestly in some other country.

Actually I would be absolutely terrified to be in prison and would most certainly end up in isolation for my own safety. I picked 20 years, but I'd go insane by then.

I'm already undergoing a prison sentence. I just wanna go fishin!. Waaaaaa

I was torn between 10 and 20 years. I was about to say ten years, but the odds are that I'd be getting maybe 1 year of fleeing before I got caught, and that would then translate to 5 more years on my sentencing. That's not a good tradeoff at my age. So I would survive the ten years and move on.

20 years? I'm going to bolt. I'd probably go to some third world country that's relatively civilized, like Madagascar or maybe Cambodia.

I think there's some confusion... you don't actually have to saw your ankle off. Just the monitor.

I would flee to Portland. With a cat.

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I don't belieze you...

I may have been too flip with my question.

Just to confirm, let's assume that you have the ability to remove the monitor without removing the foot.

I bet this type of confusion is why we're facing long prison sentences to start with.

I've always thought it would be kind of fun to live in a railway car. So if I'm running, I think I'm hopping onto a moving train and seeing where it takes me.

(Would likely proceed to die trying to jump onto the moving train)

With all the face recognition technology that's here now and the more AI powered stuff that's coming, I feel I would probably get caught within six months so anything less than a life sentence I would just serve out the sentence.

At my age I am at the 3 year mark

That's why you'd have to get out of the country...maybe to a nation on the eastern coast of Central America. Just a suggestion.

Did anybody see the Yellowstone episode where they shot two Wolves and they realized then that they hade monitor collars on. They took the collars and strapped then around logs and tossed them in the river so it would look like the wolves were still traveling.

Which should bring us to a new poll. What do you do with said collar, dumpster or cargo ship, hot air balloon, someones trunk ?

Why couldn't I just pry off the ankle monitor?

There's some YouTube videos of dudes hopping train cars all over the rust belt from city to city. I thought about taking a week or two off and trying it when I was single but it's highly illegal and pretty dangerous.

Where the hell you going to get a wolf in prison?

oh shit you're right. Yeah if that's the case, my revised answer:

I think having a family still makes me do whatever sentence is being handed down to me besides Life. Life I'm gone. But other than that, what's the point of being on the run without your loved ones with you and then you being unable to watch them grow?

I'd rather spend 20 years behind bars and then another 20 watching my kids grow as adults, than spend 40 years never being able to see them.

One could argue that IF you really plan to do this cutting your foot off could give you several weeks head start before they come looking for you.

Then again you'd have to deal with the fact that you just cut your foot off and have a good chance of dyeing from the blood lost haha

What are the chances you get caught? That’s going to factor into how long of a sentence I’m running from. Also, what’s the penalty if I am caught?

I can only hope the real Chiefsaholic is reading this thread LMAO

I used 'consider' instead of 'compel' and I said 5 years. I'm of Medicare age, so I don't want to spend much time on the inside. I'm also hoping that my age would make me less attractive to the predators, because I haven't been in a fight since the 8th grade.

Either inside, or on the run, seems like too much hassle.

Ooooh. Nice and ripe.

I bet he's really interested in hearing our suggested plans and destinations for fleeing.

How good are you at living in a forest?

Let's assume (just guessing) that you get 50 percent more time or 3 more years, which ever is greater.

Anything over 2 years I'm liquidating my assets and moving to South America.

I actually knew a guy who went on the lam. No ankle monitor, but warrants, lots of warrants, so he bolted. I think he spent five years (edit: probably 2 or 3 now that I do the math) away from his family hiding somewhere to try to avoid a two-year sentence. He got caught and ended up serving about four months before getting an early release. It seemed like a poor tradeoff.

It’s not like you can’t easily replace the ankle??

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I’m sure there’s some posters here that would let you have theirs if the chips were down.


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I'd stick around for a 20-year sentence or less.

21-25 would have me heavily considering bolting.

25+ and American soil would never see me again.

It doesn't work like that. Unfortunately I have some experience. The monitor is fitted really tight around your ankle. You're not prying or slipping it off. It's made of a hard, hard plastic material and there's wires running through it. The second you cut it off, tearing the wires, your probation officer is immediately going to know what's happened. Your location is GPS and the cops will be on there way. One more thing, the device once tampered with let's out the loudest beeping noise you've ever heard. It took 2-3 days before my ears stopped ringing.

I have a buddy doing it right now. Facing 2 years in jail, he bounced a few days ago. Went some place warm. Said he'll be back in 6 months to serve his 2 years. Despite what people think, depending on why or what your running from, it doesn't add much if any time to your sentence.

LMAO Thanks for the information. It sounds like you didn't get away.

As KCJake illustrates above, the chances of getting away with this are very slim. Some others brought up a good point that it's not like even if you got away, you'd be able to get your family and get everyone to a small Panamanian village or something. So ultimately, I'd rather spend my life in prison where at least I can see my family every week, vs probably being killed in a shootout (If I get away, I am not "going back" so to speak) or sent to a prison where my family had limited ability to see me. If I got the death penalty though, I'm doing it and going down in a blaze of glory (the scumbag hypothetical me. The real me would never hurt anyone if self or the defense of others was not in play)

20 yearsbis 20% to 30% your life. Can't put a price on those years. I really dont understand why more people dont bolt. Im not wasting 30% of my life when there is a 90% chance I can live in another country and serve zero of it. Granted I would never put myself in that situation but Id be outta here.

I guess I don't really value family that much. They can come visit me in Colombia if they want. Blows my mind people serve 20 year sentences yet were out on bail/bond temporarily

I don't know how extradition treaties work, and what countries have them Would the US really send someone to Bhutan to get me if I fled? Does it depend on how bad the crime is?

I'm not sure if the odds are 90 percent that another country would mean freedom, unless maybe it's a short sentence for something non-heinous. Maybe it is, though. I've never been extradited for a crime.

I guess you could bribe the police in some third-world country if you had enough money, but then you'd have to move to a different country because they're going to start shaking you down every month. It seems ilke it would be a hassle to bribe your way out of extradition, even if it's possible.

Imagine supporting the Chiefs for your whole life and as soon as they start winning you commit a crime that will put you behind bars for the majority of Mahomes's career. And the offense you commited was done to fund your attention seeking fandom.

What a penis.

You stated that no priors not even a speeding ticket correct? If true then I'm thinking I'm an average joe and finding out how to get a fake passport could almost be impossible.

Best odds would be have a friend willing to help out that even slightly looks like you. That friend could claim that you must have took your passport or whatever story while you get out of dodge.

Related question is which non-extradition country would be the best choice to land in.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...ut-extradition

Based on minimal consideration, I say Belarus.

UnBelizable that Belize allows extradition.

What length of prison sentence would make you saw off your ankle monitor and flee?
 

I have a wife and kids so that complicates things. Either I flee and never even speak to them again, much less see them, or I wait it out and at least have some normal years to look forward to. I guess my only hope it’s after a year or so they stop monitoring my family but that’s quite the gamble. Now if I flee and go do something amazing like saving people or something, maybe I can get public sentiment to be let go and return home.

Indonesia

Yeah, 5-7 seems like you might be able to rebuild and have a somewhat decent life afterwards. If you are gonna get 10 or more, it’s definitely worth the extra time on your sentence to risk it. You could probably just join a homeless encampment somewhere if you didn’t want to leave the country.

As this relates to Chiefsaholic, I'd have done the same damn thing. He's probably looking at 25 for armed robbery. A chance at freedom vs. another 10 years is worth it.

Chiefsaholic would 100% run his mouth and get turned in for the reward.

It’s a nice country.

There are signs around the airport promising prison if you **** a minor.

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Food for thought

Take them with you? You get a new name...you get a new name...we all get new names!

How likely is it that you could get to Mexico before they catch you? Do the highways have license plate scanners that checks for cars owned by fugitives? Would you be better off walking over to the bus station and getting a bus ticket to someplace like El Paso and walking over?

Having children complicates things here

In the past year, I coincidentally have been in rural area on both the Canadian border and the Mexican border. On the Canadian border in rural Minnesota you could just buy a canoe and cross the river, and it's pretty much 100 percent that you could cross without incident. Of course, getting a job and housing after that would be a challenge.

On the Mexican border in Arizona, there was a notable Border Patrol presence, and where I was, there was a wall of some indeterminate but relatively tall height. I don't know if the Border Patrol would stop someone going south, but if not, a person could get into Mexico. In that area, you'd then want a lot of water because it would be a hike to get to something other than cactus. After that, I don't know how easy it would be to get a job and housing without documentation.

I don't think I'd try crossing at a formal checkpoint. Maybe they'd wave you through if you looked American (sorry, Hispanic guys), but maybe they'd want a passport or something and you'd be either screwed over or turned away.

I'm still on the Madagascar and Cambodia train. I think I could realistically live in those countries. Nepal as well. Nepal is nice.

I have a friend who lived in Tunisia for a while and liked it, but I don't think I would ever feel at home in a Muslim country. I think Tunisia is pretty laid back, but it only takes one nutjob extremist with a sword to find yourself beheaded.

Would it be like federal pound me in the ass prison? Or something more like Camp Cupcake?

You're going to have to pick a gang to affiliate with.