Who's gonna take Anthony Richardson..who's gonna do it?
 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You know, there’s a joke here about Anthony Richardson having such a high ceiling and an actual ceiling not being high enough to contain him… <a href="https://t.co/C5NHgZmkDF">pic.twitter.com/C5NHgZmkDF</a></p>&mdash; Mike Kennedy (@MikeKennedyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeKennedyNFL/status/1641512397281058821?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 30, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some more videos of Anthony Richardson showing off his arm strength and velocity. <a href="https://twitter.com/alligatorSports?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@alligatorSports</a> <a href="https://t.co/1CBBWSVlHh">pic.twitter.com/1CBBWSVlHh</a></p>&mdash; Jackson Reyes (@JacksnReyes) <a href="https://twitter.com/JacksnReyes/status/1641512085153538053?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 30, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DetroitLions?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DetroitLions</a> don&#39;t select QB 🏈Anthony Richardson, &amp; RB 🏈BIJAN ROBINSON, than they need to get LAMAR JACKSON. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLDraft2023?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLDraft2023</a> <a href="https://t.co/kQTg3tciDl">https://t.co/kQTg3tciDl</a></p>&mdash; John Richardson ♑ (@Solomon33John) <a href="https://twitter.com/Solomon33John/status/1641488198806249473?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 30, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Anthony Richardson is an insane athlete <a href="https://t.co/meh3hAjnoL">pic.twitter.com/meh3hAjnoL</a></p>&mdash; Bussin&#39; With The Boys (@BussinWTB) <a href="https://twitter.com/BussinWTB/status/1641487115262341120?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 30, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is so boom or bust but god damn that pure athletic ability is just crazy...

Someone dumb?

Ballard sounds like a good candidate

Ballard is risk averse it would be totally opposite of what he'd do.

If you have a coach that is good with QBs it might be worth it...his ceiling is crazy.

Honestly…I would take him if I’m the Lions. You’ve got an extra 1st rounder and Goff isn’t it. But you also wouldn’t have to start him this year either. Seattle could take him for that reason too.

I think those are probably his best landing spots for being successful.

Problem is he very likely won't end up there as he'll go 1 or 2 or to someone trading with Arizona...

Best coach for this would be Colts Steichen who already developed Hurts.

Yep. The problem is that Steichen has to count on Ballard to do something and Ballard just isn't that guy, IMO.

It's too risky for him.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Anthony Richardson combines good pocket awareness with the understanding that is arm is worth more than his legs. <br><br>Slides up into the pocket and surprises the backer by hitting a late cross-body throw. <br><br>He can do it all. <a href="https://t.co/GhI8xLZWHg">pic.twitter.com/GhI8xLZWHg</a></p>&mdash; JetPack Galileo (@JetPackGalileo) <a href="https://twitter.com/JetPackGalileo/status/1641497374509113345?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 30, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Stuff like this says he's further along than Hurts, Hurts was seriously run 1st in college..also Richardson is a far better pure athlete.

Can’t take Mahomes.

Too risky

The real question is, do you swing if your Carolina?

CJ Stroud is safe but is he ever more than say the 8th-12th best QB in the league? Young is so small...

Do you swing for the superstar or do you play it safe?

Um...

Richardson had a 55% completion percentage in college, with 3100 yards, 24 TD's, and 15 INT's in 3 years.

In 3 years at Tech, Mahomes throw for over 3100 yards in a season TWICE and finished with over 11,000 yards total. He had a 63.5% completion rate, 93 TD's, and 29 INT's.

It's really not the same situation at all.

He won't make it past the Raiders, IMO.

Well thats air raid etc but yes Mahomes played much more, Richardson is a better athlete, probably the best athlete ever tested at QB...

He ain't going past 3.

For sure.

But does he have the QB skills to put himself over the top? That remains to be seen for sure. He's an athletic freak but can he be an NFL QB? That's the risk.

Richardson certainly isn’t Mahomes, but his tape definitely shows legitimate flashes of NFL level QB play. I think he’s a very good swing to take. I like him a lot more than Levis.

I don't think Ballard is calling those shots anymore, to be fair. After the Wentz debacle Irsay may have final say.

People shat on Mahomes because he went to Texas Tech.

So remind me again why we’re not shitting on Stroud for going to Ohio State?

Hell, OSU’s history with churning out good pro QBs is WORSE than TT pre-Mahomes

Levis isn't my thought, my thought is, will he go ahead of Stroud or Young or both.

Definitely think there’s a chance of that, also think that could end up being a case of missing the forest for the trees. I get banking on that level of potential over a midget and an Ohio State QB though. Really think Richardson’s potential being reached is a matter of what kind of team takes him. Would probably want him to sit for a year like Pat did. If he starts right away it could stunt him if he goes to a shitty enough team.

The thing is, and I can't believe I'm saying this, the Lions could win with Jared Goff. I now need to rinse off my keyboard with antifreeze, but I think it's possible.

But see they're in a great spot, they're competitive with Goff, they have players set up all over the offense if you draft Richardson he can sit and take over when he's ready.

SPARQ Hero, totally overrated

But what happens when your options are, the Sparq hero, an undersized dude who is probably going to struggle to stay healthy and a guy who profiles to be a mid level QB?

No one wants to hear it but Stroud profiles very similar to Jared Goff...

When these are your options maybe swinging big is the right move?

You're not wrong at all; it was the same argument AGAINST the Chiefs taking Pat. so it'll be interesting to see what they do.

It would be difficult to blame them, though, if they did decide to push all their chips in now and try to win a completely winnable NFC, especially given their history.

Because the shitting on Mahomes for Tech is just as stupid as shitting on Stroud for OSU.

It's a dumb thing to do and he's going to be great.

Hurts was a lot more of a proven player by the time he hit the draft.

He's essentially a more athletic Josh Allen coming out of college. Josh Allen's completion percentage was 55-56% at Wyoming. No denying that whoever drafts Richardson needs to develop him but man the traits and potential could be franchise changing.

I don't want him on the Colts. I want him to go to the NFC.



because **** the colts

I'll take your mom's butt virginity

Ravens should trade Lamar and just draft this guy.

He's gonna go high because of Mahomes. Would not be surprised if he goes before some of the safer QB picks. Teams are going to remember 2017 and how the Bears went with the "safer" pick vs the higher ceiling one and the rest being history.

No.

He's gonna go high because of Jalen Hurts, Lamar Jackson and Justin Fields.

I think he goes to the Colts at 4. Ballard’s job is on the line now and he knows he has to take a QB.

I think he’d be really good with Steichen.

If I know that freak you are way too late my friend

This guy reminds me so much of Steve McNair.

I wouldn't be mad if the Raiders drafted him. Even if it means trading up to 3.

He may be a huge bust, but he may also be a phenomenal QB.

Raiders have to swing for the fences.

McD probably ruin him, but at least it might be exciting to

It blows my mind that a QB with a 55% completion percentage and only 3100 yards, 24 TDs, and 15 Ints in 3 years is even being discussed as a first round pick, much less top 5. SMH. I hope that the Raiders trade up to 3 and take him. That would be a complete waste of their high draft position. Please do it.

My guess would be he'll land with the Raiders or Colts. I don't know what he'll be at the NFL level but the fact that there's a chance he could be a stud basically rules out the entire NFC as they do not care about QBs.

Not sure I follow. Why is that?

Because he can't hold a candle to Mahomes on throwing the ball.

Remember for a long time Mahomes was projected as 2nd to 3rd rounder until KC traded up for him. The rest is history and there will be teams that see the raw talent and upside and take a chance on him. Better to swing for the possible next Mahomes vs staying safe and possibly ending up with the next Trubisky.

Never said he did, but he has far more of a cannon than Hurts and Jackson. No one has the arm talent of Mahomes and I wasn’t comparing Richardson to him on that. As I had explained, the upside is there and a team will roll the dice with him hoping he becomes the next Mahomes. Mahomes success has directly impacted how QBs are now evaluated.

wdym you got Jimmy G!!

I'm a Florida fan and very familiar with Richardson. The guy has all the talent in the world but is such a project and I don't love his processing.

If the Chiefs had a top-10 pick pre-Mahomes and drafted the guy, I'd be excited but also insanely scared. He could set an organization back several years because his floor is really, really low.

(Conversely, his ceiling is really, really high.)

It's gonna be very interesting to see where he lands.

I don't follow college football. Does this guy have the mental aptitude for the NFL game at QB??? Obviously Mahomes did and does and continues to grow to stay ahead of DCs. I absolutely love the fact that Pat challenges Andy to challenge him all the time about growing as a QB to this day. I don't care how super athletic, cannon arm a QB has, IF he is not a student of the game and chooses to continue to NOT being a student of the game he will go by the wayside fairly quickly.

Becuase of the running/athletic ability, I honestly don't think his floor is really all that low.

I saw somebody say that his floor is basically Justin Fields last year. I think that's probably accurate.

You answered my question. However, is he willing to grow as a student? Remains to be seen.

This is why I think he goes very high. That potential is why a GM with an offensive minded HC will draft him. Stroud and Young are good, but not generational good. They might have a higher floor, but a lower ceiling.

Sounds like Josh Allen coming out. He’s the other reason (outside Mahomes) why QBs like Richardson will get drafted higher than normal.

In this draft, he's who I'd want if we didn't have Mahomes. Just take the biggest swing possible on the guy with the highest upside. The other three consensus first rounders aren't sure enough things, imho, to not just say **** it and take a risk.

Yip. Rarely are there “no doubt” QBs that come out like Burrow. As such, go for the highest ceiling guy.

55% is atrocious. What was Allen’s we all made fun of like 58%?

Most QBs who look like Josh Allen and have his first couple years never figure it out. He's a terrible comp in these situations but it's one a lot more people are willing to make right now.

I totally understand that thought process. I'm not even saying the guy will be bad (and am really pulling for him as he's a good kid). I'm just saying I think there's certainly scope for him to end up disappointing in a material way, especially if he finds himself in the wrong situation.

And while Fields doesn't have the athleticism of Richardson, he's leagues more evolved as an actual QB. If Fields and Richardson were in the same draft class, I'd definitely take Fields.

Who else is there then? High upside with with questionable processing coming out. Can’t really think of another QB he compares to right now. If he goes to a QB friendly coach/system he might have a chance. Wasn’t Allen pretty bad until Daboll came in?

I’ll laugh if it’s Baltimore.

Here's why I'm out on him and we will bump thos thread in 4 years to see how terribly wrong I am. His decision making is questionable, his accuracy struggles because his mechanics suck.

Before someone says Mahomes had some of the same knocks Patrick was pretty accurate and his decision making knocks came from being too aggressive. Just don't see how this guy learns all of this at the highest level.

I'd say most athletic QBs who have come out in the last generation are similar. Granted, none of them have the exact specifics of Richardson - he's absolutely better - but all of them had more college success than he did. It's hard to project him because the comps just aren't there.

And I think Daboll was there as OC from Allen's rookie season onward. Dorsey joined after year 1 and it was only in year 2 where Allen really took a step forward.

I’m not that high on stroud. But Ryan day has a way more nfl friendly offense for QBs than any of his modern predecessors. I mean, urban and tressel were next level bad and nfl teams didn’t even try to pretend these QBs were any good.

Honestly, if my team needed a QB, and Richardson was available, I would take him, and I wouldn't care at all if he was a bust.

I wouldn't care, because if he gets with a good head coach, a good OC, and good QB coach, and a decent veteran for him to backup for a year, and he HITS, holy shit man, it would be a home run.

I would much rather reach a little for Richardson in the top 10 (picks 4-10) than draft Bryce Young at 2 and have him be injured (or a bust) within a couple of years.

If Levis gets drafted ahead of Richardson, I really, really hope it's by the Raiders.

If Richardson is a bust he’d make an insane backup worst case scenario.

This is why Detroit should draft him. My guy is Stroud because nothing beats accuracy

If he can get drafted by a good coach I think he can be really good. A poor system would ruin or at a minimum stunt his growth. Not sure what his accuracy or football IQ is but man, dude is on his own level as an athlete at that position. He's a special talent for sure.

Meat! at least his mom has a job! jk meat, Great poist made us all moist.

Allen at least had an excuse with a shit Wyoming squad.

Not a QB class I'd be wanting to hinge my career on. Who the hell knows... feels like they are all swings so why not take the big one? I'd take Levis over them all but that's me. I wouldn't fault any team for gambling on Richardson.

If Baltimore drafts him Lamar Jackson is ****ed. I don’t know what other franchise is going to sign him to a massive deal. Sure seems like the book is written on him.

True, but I would be stunned if he is still there when Baltimore picks. This guy should go top 10 as his upside would be too appealing. While I don’t think they will, I would be intrigued to see him in Carolina with a HC like Reich.

The pundits are wrong more than they are right.

Looking at how the 2017 draft played out, there were several teams that had Mahomes as a high 1st rounder. The pundits were guessing that he was a 2nd or 3rd rounder, NFL teams obviously saw things they didn't.

The same could be true of Richardson as well, only in the opposite. Everybody is rating him high but for all we know, the NFL doesn't view him that way. I mean, look at Malik Willis, for example.

Absolutely. I just know the NFL is a copycat league. Mahomes is the standard now and because of that, team are more willing to risk it on a high upside QB. There are some solid, but not sure fire QBs in this draft. Might as well roll the dice on the one with the most upside. Plenty of teams have played it safe and don't have much to show for it. There are no Burrows or Lawrences in this draft. As much as we think we know what a team does and values, they always surprise us. I guess we will know in a month though.

The Josh Allen comp makes people automatically think of Josh Allen in the NFL at his prime on the days when he isn't awful.

When I say Josh Allen I mean college Josh Allen who very easily could have never worked it out. It's a good comp.


edit: and Josh Allen has Whathleticism which is a term I just made up that means extremely athletic for a white guy

That's fair, but Fields threw for just 2,200 yards and had just 17 TDs and 11 INTs last year, hence the floor comparison.

What is pushing Richardson more than anything is Young and Stroud are not slam dunks.

Fields doesn't have the athleticism of Richardson it's true but that's only because Richardson is basically Achilles from an Epic Poem come to life.

Fields has insane athleticism compared to like, anybody else.

Would be funny to see Baltimore repeat Lamar Jackson.

Yup. Josh Allen is the perfect comp for him IMO.

Josh Allen at Wyoming was a high potential player who made a lot of mistakes and never set the world on fire, even against lesser competition.

Richardson needs the right coach. He needs his Brian Daboll. And I think Steichen is that guy who can help him the way he did with Hurts.

Richardson would score a 10.00 on his RAS for a bunch of positions...

At WR, LB and CB he scores a 10.00. he's a 9.55 at TE...he's literally #1 on the QB list since 1987, his athletic talent is ****in stupid.

The Baltimore talk, Baltimore has no chance of getting high enough, Richardsons going in the first 3 picks.

Reich would be another good coach for him.

Carolina is interesting, do you just be safe and take Stroud or do you swing for the homerun.