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Wallcrawler 03-31-2023 08:17 AM
Wow. Don't press send.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lol I came into the league behind Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelce and Sammy Watkins and people thought I supposed to become a #1 WR 😂</p>&mdash; Mecole Hardman Jr. (@MecoleHardman4) <a href="https://twitter.com/MecoleHardman4/status/1640152929616252930?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 27, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What kind of person looking to get paid posts some shit like this?

Not only is this an admission of not being that guy, and never will be, hell, youre not even up to the challenge, but it's also hilariously inaccurate.

When Tyreek Hill left, Mecole Hardman had the #1 WR spot for the taking. More experience in the system than Juju, Skyy, MVS, and Justin Watson, and you STILL weren't that guy.

Making excuses saying herp derp everyone else was better than me is the dumbest thing you can post. Good luck with Aaron Rodgers.

AdolfOliverBush 03-31-2023 08:22 AM
Hardman continuing the tradition of WRs leaving KC and saying dumb shit.

Iowanian 03-31-2023 08:25 AM
Maybe that's why Veach hit SEND on Hardman's walking papers email.

Wisconsin_Chief 03-31-2023 08:29 AM
It was a desperation pick from the start that they wouldn't have made if they knew Hill was going to be cleared, and there's a reason they didn't make him an offer when his contract expired.

Bye, Mecole.

ptlyon 03-31-2023 08:31 AM
That's hard, man

Bob Dole 03-31-2023 08:42 AM
Maybe you can be the #1 on a team that hasn't been to the playoffs in 12 years, Nicole.

smithandrew051 03-31-2023 08:45 AM
Minus the 2018 draft, it’s still pretty awesome that our “bad” or “disappointing” picks still find a way to be productive on this team. We have it pretty damn good.

Hardman and CEH probably get the most criticism, yet Hardman scored 20 TDs and CEH scored 17 TDs as Chiefs.

When we miss on picks, we don’t miss near as bad as most franchises.

TEX 03-31-2023 08:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16883582)
Minus the 2018 draft, it’s still pretty awesome that our “bad” or “disappointing” picks still find a way to be productive on this team. We have it pretty damn good.

Hardman and CEH probably get the most criticism, yet Hardman scored 20 TDs and CEH scored 17 TDs as Chiefs.

When we miss on picks, we don’t miss near as bad as most franchises.
IMO, Reid's scheme accounts for that.

staylor26 03-31-2023 08:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TEX (Post 16883585)
IMO, Reid's scheme accounts for that.
Yea, it's all Reid's scheme! Nothing to do with the fact that Hardman is a terrific gadget guy, even if that's all he turned out to be.

O.city 03-31-2023 08:51 AM
Ok, Reid's scheme accounts for it. Last I checked said scheme isn't leaving....so......

redfan 03-31-2023 08:54 AM
What a doofus!!

smithandrew051 03-31-2023 08:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TEX (Post 16883585)
IMO, Reid's scheme accounts for that.
It’s okay to be happy. Who hurt you?

DJ's left nut 03-31-2023 09:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 16883567)
It was a desperation pick from the start that they wouldn't have made if they knew Hill was going to be cleared, and there's a reason they didn't make him an offer when his contract expired.

Bye, Mecole.
Yup.

It wasn't the pick they'd have made but/for the Hill situation (thanks again, Jabba the ****). And once it resolved they were left with trying to make chicken salad.

And in many many ways they did. Hardman was hugely instrumental to the 2019 championship run, especially over the latter half of the season and into the playoffs. And I think he was due for a big year this year in Hill's absence but for the first time in his career, he got hurt.

It was bad circumstances and bad luck that led to a pick that really ended up being okay when all was said and done. I mean I think he was probably among the top 40 guys taken to this point from that draft (no really, look it up) and he went 56th.

If he didn't make the top 40, it was still pretty close. He's no worse than a top 60 player in terms of overall contributions.

I think he made a mistake leaving but in the end it seems pretty apparent that it all ran its course. I ain't gonna shit on him for that.

Gravedigger 03-31-2023 09:06 AM
Once we got Toney, Hardman became expendable, similar to Pacheco and Clyde. We kinda reached for Hardman back in the day anyways with the Tyreek situation still unfolding, so we can likely safely say that any speed guy that runs a 4.3 would do well in this offense. But he's right, no more than a #3.

Wisconsin_Chief 03-31-2023 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16883612)
Yup.

It wasn't the pick they'd have made but/for the Hill situation (thanks again, Jabba the ****). And once it resolved they were left with trying to make chicken salad.

And in many many ways they did. Hardman was hugely instrumental to the 2019 championship run, especially over the latter half of the season and into the playoffs. And I think he was due for a big year this year in Hill's absence but for the first time in his career, he got hurt.

It was bad circumstances and bad luck that led to a pick that really ended up being okay when all was said and done. I mean I think he was probably among the top 40 guys taken to this point from that draft (no really, look it up) and he went 56th.

If he didn't make the top 40, it was still pretty close. He's no worse than a top 60 player in terms of overall contributions.

I think he made a mistake leaving but in the end it seems pretty apparent that it all ran its course. I ain't gonna shit on him for that.
Totally agree, the pick was far from a bust and we ended up getting plenty of miles out of the guy. Many memorable big plays, the jump pass from Mahomes he took to the house against Tennessee was my favorite. My kids still watch that one all the time. "Look out, afterburner time! Hardman!" Classic.

No ill will towards him at all, it's exactly like you said his time ran it's course here. It happens.

kcpasco 03-31-2023 09:10 AM
Veach let him walk, I trust Burt. Moore is gonna step up this season.

FloridaMan88 03-31-2023 09:15 AM
EB, OBJ, and Mecole… people who have a seriously overinflated view of themselves compared to how the rest of the league views them.

Shiver Me Timbers 03-31-2023 09:16 AM
He has the speed.
Better than average hands.
But the smarts of a 10 year old.

Molitoth 03-31-2023 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 16883585)
IMO, Reid's scheme accounts for that.
...and a QB who is willing to throw further than 15 yards.


Remember that Alex Smith running Reids offense was a snooze fest.

Couch-Potato 03-31-2023 09:30 AM
I don't think it's as damning as you're suggesting.

He's showing some self awareness is all, its a fair assessment.

Spott 03-31-2023 09:33 AM
Funny, he didn’t come closing to being a #1 WR after Tyreek and Sammie left either.

kcpasco 03-31-2023 09:34 AM
Mecole is old news and replaceable. I do respect what he did for us.

FloridaMan88 03-31-2023 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16883664)
I don't think it's as damning as you're suggesting.

He's showing some self awareness is all, its a fair assessment.
He should stop responding to random people on Twitter… probably good advice for everyone.

dlphg9 03-31-2023 09:40 AM
He literally said this last year too.

Rain Man 03-31-2023 10:15 AM
Here's some interesting trivia for you. How many yards from scrimmage did Mecole have in his two Super Bowls? Answer below.

Spoiler!


I'll salute Mecole on his way out, though. No Chief has more Super Bowl rings than Mecole Hardman, and he tried to play through injuries more than many players would.

chiefzilla1501 03-31-2023 10:19 AM
I guess I’m not sure why I should be outraged. I don’t care that he was a WR1 and I don’t care that he accepted this. He played a specific role and he played it well, and it’s ok if he never lived up to performing well outside of that role. We moved on from him as much as he did from us. Have zero hard feelings about this.

BWillie 03-31-2023 10:51 AM
Hardman would be possibly even out of the league if he went to any other team. Hes a product of Andy Reids genius

Jewish Rabbi 03-31-2023 10:58 AM
**** this guy he sucks anyway

wazu 03-31-2023 11:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16883664)
I don't think it's as damning as you're suggesting.

He's showing some self awareness is all, its a fair assessment.
This was my first thought. I completely agree with his point. Being a WR1 is way out of reach for him. Same goes for WR2. Same for WR3 if you count tight ends as WRs. He's a JAG. Always has been, always will be. Doubt he'll ever have a 700+ yard season receiving. He's a gadget player and not a very good one.

htismaqe 03-31-2023 11:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wazu (Post 16883914)
This was my first thought. I completely agree with his point. Being a WR1 is way out of reach for him. Same goes for WR2. Same for WR3 if you count tight ends as WRs. He's a JAG. Always has been, always will be. Doubt he'll ever have a 700+ yard season receiving. He's a gadget player and not a very good one.
His targets went from 41 to 62 to 83 over his first 3 seasons. He had 693 yards 2 years ago, with Hill still here. He was on pace for a little over 72 targets or so already last season before he got hurt and his targets were going up over the last 3 games he played (he had a season high 6 targets against Tennessee and then he got hurt).

I'm not arguing he's a great player or anything but had he stayed healthy this season, he would have broken 700 yards.

rocknrolla 03-31-2023 12:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16883612)
Yup.

It wasn't the pick they'd have made but/for the Hill situation (thanks again, Jabba the ****). And once it resolved they were left with trying to make chicken salad.

And in many many ways they did. Hardman was hugely instrumental to the 2019 championship run, especially over the latter half of the season and into the playoffs. And I think he was due for a big year this year in Hill's absence but for the first time in his career, he got hurt.

It was bad circumstances and bad luck that led to a pick that really ended up being okay when all was said and done. I mean I think he was probably among the top 40 guys taken to this point from that draft (no really, look it up) and he went 56th.

If he didn't make the top 40, it was still pretty close. He's no worse than a top 60 player in terms of overall contributions.



I think he made a mistake leaving but in the end it seems pretty apparent that it all ran its course. I ain't gonna shit on him for that.
Solid post

Iowanian 03-31-2023 12:37 PM
This thread probably saved my career.

I minimized a sternly worded response to a former client who wants me to do something for them again. I opened the planet to chill my mind for a minute and this thread saved me from sending Fire through the fiber.

Spott 03-31-2023 01:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 16884194)
This thread probably saved my career.

I minimized a sternly worded response to a former client who wants me to do something for them again. I opened the planet to chill my mind for a minute and this thread saved me from sending Fire through the fiber.
It’s amazing how many people will do that through company email and “hit reply all”.

wazu 03-31-2023 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16883922)
His targets went from 41 to 62 to 83 over his first 3 seasons. He had 693 yards 2 years ago, with Hill still here. He was on pace for a little over 72 targets or so already last season before he got hurt and his targets were going up over the last 3 games he played (he had a season high 6 targets against Tennessee and then he got hurt).

I'm not arguing he's a great player or anything but had he stayed healthy this season, he would have broken 700 yards.
Fair enough, but he didn't stay healthy. He had four straight years on a team that wanted him to be a star. He was regularly mentioned in the mix of "weapons" the Chiefs have as if he was significant in some way. I personally felt better about throwing the ball to Byron Pringle when he was still here.

I know I was always more down on Mecole than the norm. For whatever reason, his errors tended to push my buttons. I wish him well, though. Seemed like a good teammate and was part of those championship teams. He had his moments amidst a lot of opportunity.

EPodolak 03-31-2023 01:56 PM
Maybe he's saying he *is* the guy, except when the very top NFL guys are on the same roster.

htismaqe 03-31-2023 02:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spott (Post 16884342)
It’s amazing how many people will do that through company email and “hit reply all”.
My favorite is when somebody does a "reply all" on some corporate notification. Then you get thousands of follow-up emails from people using "reply all" to tell other people not to "reply all".

Kiimo 03-31-2023 02:23 PM
Thankfully the New York press is very forgiving when you don't deliver

Megatron96 03-31-2023 02:24 PM
Was there a post Hardman made or a statement? Not seeing anything in the OP?

raybec 4 03-31-2023 02:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16884443)
My favorite is when somebody does a "reply all" on some corporate notification. Then you get thousands of follow-up emails from people using "reply all" to tell other people not to "reply all".
That shit makes me want to delete my email account

Jamie 03-31-2023 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16883774)
I guess I’m not sure why I should be outraged. I don’t care that he was a WR1 and I don’t care that he accepted this. He played a specific role and he played it well, and it’s ok if he never lived up to performing well outside of that role. We moved on from him as much as he did from us. Have zero hard feelings about this.
This. Some of you guys get butthurt way too easily with this stuff.

Ming the Merciless 03-31-2023 03:32 PM
maybe if he spent a night in bang cock he would get humble


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TEX 03-31-2023 04:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16883774)
I guess I’m not sure why I should be outraged. I don’t care that he was a WR1 and I don’t care that he accepted this. He played a specific role and he played it well, and it’s ok if he never lived up to performing well outside of that role. We moved on from him as much as he did from us. Have zero hard feelings about this.
Exactly. IMO, this is a very good take.

|Zach| 03-31-2023 05:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16883774)
I guess I’m not sure why I should be outraged. I don’t care that he was a WR1 and I don’t care that he accepted this. He played a specific role and he played it well, and it’s ok if he never lived up to performing well outside of that role. We moved on from him as much as he did from us. Have zero hard feelings about this.
Well said.

If I am him I don't send it because there is no upside but other than that *shrug*

scho63 04-01-2023 07:54 AM
Hardman had about 4-5 excellent plays in his entire time here, substantially below expectations.

Wallcrawler 04-01-2023 10:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 16885158)
Hardman had about 4-5 excellent plays in his entire time here, substantially below expectations.
Those plays were easily offset by the plethora of bone head plays he had. The guy was a disaster waiting to happen on special teams so much that he was removed from that role.

Numerous huge plays missed because he didn't know he was the hot read. None more egregious than in the SB loss, where the blitz comes, Mahomes drops it out to a wide open Mecole Hardman who is not even aware of the football being thrown. A walk in td if he simply understands what the **** he was supposed to do on that play.

Numerous times where he gives up on the route, slows up, and the ball comes to him overthrown because he didn't finish his assignment.

Million dollar athleticism, 2 cent brain.

Rainbarrel 04-01-2023 11:08 AM
He was a scapegoat that was shamefully(fans)replaced by Skyy

Al Czervik 04-01-2023 12:14 PM
I was done with Hardman when he refused to show up at camp Mahomes between seasons. Patrick wanted all the WR's to work out with him and diptard Mecole didnt show.


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