2023 First Round Mock 4.0 (Final)
 

01 Carolina Panthers | QB BRYCE YOUNG, Alabama
02 Houston Texans | ER WILL ANDERSON, Alabama
03 Indianapolis Colts | QB C.J. STROUD, Ohio State (trade w/ARZ)
04 Arizona Cardinals | CB CHRISTIAN GONZALEZ, Oregon (trade w/IND)
05 Seattle Seahawks | DE TYREE WILSON, Texas Tech
06 Detroit Lions | DT JALEN CARTER, Georgia
07 Las Vegas Raiders | CB DEVON WITHERSPOON, Illinois
08 Atlanta Falcons | ER NOLAN SMITH, Georgia
09 Chicago Bears | OT PARIS JOHNSON, Ohio State
10 Houston Texans | QB WILL LEVIS, Kentucky (trade w/PHI)
11 Tennessee Titans | WR JAXON SMITH-NJIGBA, Ohio State
12 Philadelphia Eagles | RB BIJON ROBINSON, Texas (trade w/HOU)
13 Green Bay Packers | ER LUKAS VAN NESS, Iowa
14 Kansas City Chiefs | OT BRODERICK JONES, Georgia (trade w/NE)
15 Baltimore Ravens | CB JOEY PORTER JR, Penn State (trade w/NYJ)
16 Washington Commanders | QB ANTHONY RICHARDSON, Florida
17 Pittsburgh Steelers | OT DARNELL WRIGHT, Tennessee
18 Detroit Lions | TE DALTON KINCAID, Utah
19 Tampa Bay Buccaneers | OL PETER SKORONSKI, Northwestern
20 Dallas Cowboys | TE MICHAEL MAYER, Notre Dame (trade w/SEA)
21 Los Angeles Chargers | RB JAHMYR GIBBS, Alabama
22 New York Jets | OT ANTON HARRISON, Oklahoma (trade w/BAL)
23 Minnesota Vikings | WR JORDAN ADDISON, USC
24 Jacksonville Jaguars | DE MYLES MURPHY, Clemson
25 New York Giants | WR ZAY FLOWERS, Boston College
26 Seattle Seahawks | DT MAZI SMITH, Michigan (trade w/DAL)
27 Buffalo Bills | WR QUENTIN JOHNSTON, Texas Christian
28 Cincinnati Bengals | CB DEONTE BANKS, Maryland
29 New Orleans Saints | DT CALIJAH KANCEY, Pittsburgh
30 Tennessee Titans | QB HENDON HOOKER, Tennessee (trade w/PHI)
31 New England Patriots | S BRYAN BRANCH, Alabama (trade w/KC)

I'm definitely good with that!

What did we give up?

If we really took Hyatt in front of Flowers I'd be pretty upset.

I didn't even realize we traded up. Just looked at the player.

Don't really think we'd do that, or even need to, if Hyatt AND Flowers are on the board.

I thought the same thing

I'm making my estimate on 4/122 and a 2024 4th but in reality it might cost 3/95.

I don't like Flowers as much as you guys do, especially with that skill set in-house already. Even without that skill set in-house, I far prefer Hyatt and it's not especially close.

Who has Flowers skillset on the team?

I'd probably lean towards the two 4ths but that's just me.

Man Jalin Hyatt isn't worth moving up for, you'd be better off trading back and taking Mims they're the same guy.

The guy we drafted in the 2nd round last year.

Not happening. And I disagree.

Jim Nagy said he's spoken with many teams that are only grading 1 WR as a definite 1st round talent.

You think Moore and Flowers are the same guy?

Apparently we don't remotely see the same thing there.

Yea and there will be teams with like 16 total 1st rounders so you have to realize that when you read that comment.

Yes, in every way.

If we don't, we don't, and that's okay.

I think Flowers floor, is Tyler Lockett, I don't see that style of player in Moore.

This, I 100% agree with. I think all of them outside of JSN are truly fringe talents but so too are a lot of the rest of the positions outside the top 18 players or so. That doesn't mean they won't get selected in the 1st round, it just means there's as good a chance they drop out of the round as there is that they get picked in it, and the same for other positions. I think there are more questions with much of the ER and DL talent than the WR talent in that range plus the league has placed more and more of a premium value on WRs over the past several years. These guys will most likely get snapped up earlier than they would have 10 years ago.

I really struggled to put your guy Flowers in round 1, for example, but I think he's a better player at his position than guys like Nolan Smith, Felix Anudike-Uzomah, Ade Abedawore, Keion White, Mazi Smith, Will McDonald, and so on are at their positions. Then you also have the factor of team need versus that BPA and it just makes more sense.

His floor? More likely his ceiling. Or he could be Elijah Moore or worse. You can never be too certain. He probably will fit somewhere in that range though and there's a vast difference between Lockett and Moore.

Similarly, Hyatt could be the next DeSean or he could be the next Will Fuller. We have no idea. Hyatt is much more explosive though, at least coming in, and that's a big differentiator for me along with size.

Will Fuller was fine when he wasn't hurt.

Nobody's floor is Tyler Lockett in this entire draft.

Few people's floors in ANY draft are guys who may end up with 700 receptions for 10,000 yards when all is said and done.

Flowers and Moore are extremely similar players. I think Flowers is a better version of Moore, don't get me wrong, but if you draft Flowers, you're burying Moore.

If you draft Hyatt you might be layering MVS, but that's a short-term issue anyway as MVS is gone next year. Meanwhile, you may well end up with 2 very dynamic outside weapons in Toney/Hyatt, a deep slot player not unlike Victor Cruz was and an underneath possession guy in Moore.

The respective skill-sets dovetail better, IMO.

I like Flowers just fine, but agree that his skillset is somewhere between Toney and Moore's while Hyatt is more like Hardman and Hill.

As to Hyatt - wholly reasonable pick.

Not the direction I'd go (I'd take White and look to the 2nd for my WR) but I don't have any qualms with it either. Besides, it sets up the Hyatt/Gibbs 1-2 outcome that's just pure Madden porn...

I'm 100% down with Hyatt in the first, would be incredible to nab Gibbs in the 2nd as a follow up! They are the most exciting options for us in the draft.

I like what you did with the Texans and would hate to see Philly get Bijan Robinson!

Yeah thats a BOLD move by Houston.

Hyatt at 31 is more than fine (to me). Do we really need to move up to get him? I’m thinking he makes it to 31.

I’d rather we use the draft capital to move up in the 2nd to nab our DEOTF (Foskey/White/Ojulari/etc).

Tweaked er up. I thought it would be final but the Jets trade and some personal thoughts got in the wya.

What are we giving up to get to 14? If not the farm, I could go for this.

He gave up next years 1 and more.

Brother crow, it's clear that you put in tremendous thought into the process. I think your final product will end up a lot closer than many of the pundits. I might switch porter and banks, but that is clearly a flavor call. Appreciate your efforts.

31, 95, 2024 1st. Not exactly the farm when you're giving up the last picks in round 1 in back-to-back years. We gave up nearly as much for Clark and paid him 100m. So its either you feel like a franchise LT is worth the investment or you don't. I do, but it's not everyone's flavor.

We'll see haha. It's a really hard-to-gauge year man. There are some clear talents I think go top 10 and then a whole bunch of "well I could take them at 15 or I can take them at 45 and nobody would blink an eye."

Actually just saw it in the other thread. I'm in. I know many won't like it, but lock down both edges for the next 4 or 5 years. That's a game changer for teams playing us. Might have to bring blitzzers to get to Mahomes, and Mahomes kills blitzes.

Got a couple on par, a couple others in the right spot but wrong team and one right team wrong spot.
Porter Jr, Hooker, Mayer, and Branch didn't go R1.

A trade up to 14 for snake guy RT?

Lololol.

What are you even going on about? He's going to be the starting LT in Pittsburgh.