CBS 7 Round Mock
 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...all-259-picks/

They are much higher on some prospects than we are and much, much lower on some others giving it a look through.

Here are the Chiefs' picks:

1.31 Anton Harrison, OT, Oklahoma
2.63 Adetomiwa Adebawore, EDGE, Northwestern
3.95 Cedric Tillman, WR, Tennessee
4.122 Cameron Young, DL, Mississippi State
4.134 Kendre Miller, RB, TCU
5.166 Brayden Willis, TE, Oklahoma
6.178 Jose Ramirez, EDGE, Eastern Michigan
6.217 Keidron Smith, CB, Kentucky
7.249 Andrei Iosivas, WR, Princeton
7.250 Nesta Jade Silvera, DL, Arizona State

Now we're talkin'...

Wait - did Rashee Rice murder that guys dog? Or his mother?

Because he has Rice in the fifth. The late 5th at that.

No ****ing way.

Well the first 3 picks are fire so...

Yes please

I love LaPorta but the first round and 1st tight end off the board would be wild.

Nit pickin a bit but replace Adebawore with Foskey and I’ll be all smiles

That would be a very nice draft for the Chiefs.

We would still need some help at DT, but I would be pleased with this draft.

Not calling out this tight end specifically but it feels like a lot of mocks are pushing TE to us just because of kelces age.

I absolutely love Travis Kelce and would never disrespect him by saying we NEED another good TE, but I think the Chiefs could be even better with adding that to the team.

When KC puts Jody Fortson, Noah Gray, or Blake Bell on the field, it does not create a hole in the other team's defense.

Some teams beat the hell out of Kelce because they don't have to respect the other TEs we put on field.

We don't need to go too early for a TE, but add one that teams have to account for.

Point I am trying to make is -

If Chiefs draft a TE in the 4th or 5th round, I'm not going to say, "Hell, KC did not need that!"

You think Brayden Willis is that guy?

I think Willis is going to need to play FB/H-Back in the NFL. He's what 6'3" 240 and isn't very quick. I really don't think he's going to be a pick. I'd take a guy like Whiteheart before Willis and neither before round 7.

I like the first 4 picks but the rest is very meh in my book.

I'd be okay with Iosivas that late though, he'd be a nice project if you can harness that athleticism and turn him into a better receiver.

I've looked at Jade Silvera a bunch and he's just one of those guys that's a tweener. He's got the body and play style of a 3-tech but the quickness and ability of a 1-tech. I don't know that he's ever going to be much more than a marginal rotational guy.

My poorly made point. If the chiefs need to prepare for Kelces demise, it’s not more niche tight ends. We have a blocker, we have a Kelce extremely light in gray, we have whatever you want to call fortson.. red zone pass catcher? Get one who gets rid of the need for one of the others or gtfo.

Brayden Willis would not be my pick in the 5th round, but kccrow might have how KC would use him. He had 10 carries and 39 catches last year for 540 yards and 7 TDs for Oklahoma. KC still needs Andy's FB for the team.

I like TE Payne Durham, Purdue or TE Luke Schoonmaker, Michigan at 4 (122) if we went earlier.

feels realistic!

7.249 Andrei Iosivas, WR, Princeton


Veach making shit happen with 7th round picks

I'd rather go early with a guy like Schoonmaker or just not at all. We have the projects and niche guys in that room already.

I understand that Kelce is getting long in the tooth, but the simple fact of the matter is that any young TE is not going to get a lot of targets when you have Travis Kelce.

It's entirely possible that Noah Gray is a legit first string NFL TE on most teams. We don't know, because he's behind Travis Kelce.

I don't think drafting a TE early is going to make much difference, either.

Even when we run 12 and 13 packages, Kelce's going to get the look first, and he's going to get the majority of TE targets. It's just the way it is.

The way is blocked until Kelce hangs it up or significantly regresses.

I just wouldn't worry about it for now. Gray's shown some game.

Would be a nice pick up in the 7th for sure

Yeah, a 3rd day TE doesn't make any sense to me. The TE room is actually pretty good. You're not likely to find a meaningful improvement on the 3 backups we have there so why bother?

If they don’t take one in the 2-4 round range, then they shouldn’t take one at all.

The only thing I could understand is if someone like Kuntz with a maaaaaasive learning curve ahead of him slid into 5. Then you could theoretically play Bell as more of an H back and all but redshirt Kuntz as a gameday inactive for a year while he learns how to be an actual TE.

Or if Schoonmaker slips due to being overaged - he's just an upgrade in every way on, well everyone on the roster apart from Kelce, IMO.

I think those 2 might be viable 5th rounders and my memory is we have the 1st pick in the 5th round so it's an early 5th (maybe I'm thinking of the 6th round though).

But the Durham, Allen, Ford, Willis group - those are just rookie versions of guys we have a bunch of. I'm just not terribly interested in them even late. They're redundant.

Kuntz is who I was specifically talking about and that's because I saw him being an option at 135.

Kuntz would be a fun pick. But it looks like we're in our standard slot in 5 and I don't see him going that late.

And I'm not sure I'm terribly keen on taking him at the back of 4, but man those tools are SO loud.

I just think if this project were easy enough to put any confidence in, there's no way a guy with his size/strength/speed goes in the late 4th/early 5th. The entire league isn't that stupid.

But yeah, I'd be excited if we took him. Because he genuinely could replace Kelce someday and would be on the right timeline to do it. Moreover, learning from Kelce and Reid (who's history with TEs I've mentioned before) would be an absolutely ideal situation for him.

**** it - KUNTZ IN THE 4TH!

I'm in.

I think if you could come away with a guy like Harrison in the 1st, a WR in the 2nd and a DE with a DT in the 3rd and 4th round....then Kuntz at the tail end of the 4th is a homerun pick.

Alright - who you on in the 3rd?

Because we have room to bargain here. I'm gonna need you to get behind Harrison in the 1st and I can back Foskey (even over Rice, because I'm trying to build us a consensus board here) in the 2nd.

Though sadly, we may be an an impasse because I can't imagine Foskey going late 2 and I don't have him in my top tiers in Rd1.

Wait - how 'bout

1st: Foskey
2nd: Rice
3rd: Blake Freeland
4a: No idea - let's discuss. I'll throw my Mizzou guy, Isaiah McGuire out there for consideration
4b: Kuntz
5: Keondre Coburn
6a: Nick Saldiveri
6b: Jerrod Clark
7a: Anthony Johnson Jr.
7b: Cam Jones

Join me, sir, in supporting this as the ideal Mock Draft for your 2023 Chiefs.

Wait a minute - I didn't have you as Team Harrison to this point.

Just FYI, Nate Taylor has Harrison as a possibility at pick 63

Lol he's clueless.

This is a really ****ing good draft/mock though. Sign me up for that today with no hesitation.

I've started to kind of move onto a WR in the 2nd because I like the options that should be there (even with a small trade up).

Foskey at 31 would be a perfect pick for me but he's been pretty quiet up until this point, so I don't know where he's going to go.

Harrison would be a perfect fit at RT if he's there.

You've got my vote on that mock. That 4a pick could be anything if the rest of it goes like that. McGuire would be perfect.

No ****ing way a pass-protecting OT with LT feet falls to 63.

And if he did, he would not be a 'possibility' - he'd be an absolute certainty.

I'm still only 50/50 he makes it to 31. Fellas, there aren't many guys in this draft with the length/feet/strength that Harrison has. Paris Johnson is the only OT in this draft who I think it obviously more capable of playing LT in the NFL. Broderick Jones is just such a fascinating physical specimen that I put him right at the same level as Harrison in that regard. But Harrison's technique is better, IMO.

In either event - no, Harrison won't be there at 63.

Sold. So it is written, so shall it be done.

Get Bling Vance on the line.

It's pretty much common knowledge, and he admits it, that Nate doesn't really know dick about the draft or prospects. He gets all of his takes from Brugler's draft guide.

It's crazy that at the beginning of this process I didn't think Foskey would even have a chance of being there at 31. Now I have no clue if he's even going round 1 at all.

It'd be nice to have an Irish player get drafted by the Chiefs that didn't get cut in his first training camp.

That's really similar to Karlaftis, though.

Heading into draft season, he was being discussed as a potential top 10 pick and maybe the first DE to go after Hutchison.

I don't think anyone realistically expected him to fall to 29.

It's so weird to me that a guy who covers football for a living doesn't know things like that.

Maybe we can pull that off two years in a row then. A DE group of Karlaftis, Omenihu, Foskey, Danna and whatever 5th DE you want to keep would be pretty ****ing stout. Especially if you can have Foskey/Karlaftis as your DEs and Jones/Omenihu as your DTs in obvious passing situations.

I apparently am the only dude who isn't a Foskey fan.

Might not be a popular opinion, but Taylor is low key kind of worthless IMO.

He doesn't have the sources in the organization OR the football knowledge of Terez.

Or maybe we were just spoiled with Terez :shrug:

Yeah well...your opinions suck, man.

Even without insider sources you could have a lot of just knowledge of what's going on. The fact that some of these guys seem oblivious to other NFL teams and the college game is really ****ing baffling.

He's big and athletic but he doesn't have a whole lot of refinement. I'm assuming it's all the positions he played but there's not a lot of moves on the rush and he needs a lot of coaching in my view.

He covers the NFL for a living. He doesn't cover 'football' write large and he sees this as a college football thing.

Or a 'draft guru' thing whereby he defers to the experts.

But yeah, he just rarely gets a damn thing right.

I like Nate, don't get me wrong, but damn I miss Terez. Because that guy covered the Chiefs but knew EVERYTHING. Taylor simply doesn't have the broad knowledge base that Paylor had.

Our 5th DE is McGuire.

C'mon man - learn your lines.

(And man, McGuire would be a PERFECT DE5 with the rest of that group in place)

So yeah, you got there first.

I think you're being a little harsh; he does have sources within the organization (he was trying to tell everyone that they were absolutely bringing Watkins back, for instance, and Clark last season).

But no, he simply doesn't understand the game as well as Terez did.

I'm still jizzing over Foskey. I'll get there.

But if he is that type of T....don't those guys usually go really early?

Gets dinged as not being as powerful as your typical 1st round OTs (Johnson and Jones, maybe even Wright, being the poster children there).

But again, I keep having visions of Mitchell Schwartz here. Athletic and good with your angles can take you a LOOOOONG way at OT. Will he ever be a premier drive blocker in the run game? Probably not.

Ask me how much I care about the run game...

I have Anton Harrison in the first before KC picks. I don't know that he's there. I really dont' think he's a 2nd round player at all.

I also really like Foskey. If it weren't for WR, he'd be my guy at 31. I don't know how the organization feels about WR but with first-round guys working out with Mahomes, I assume it to be high on their priority list, so it makes it difficult not to project one there over some other guys like Foskey.

I do like Isaiah McGuire alot too, but I don't know how Spags and company value hand size. We saw the knocks come out about Myles Murphy. McGuire also has tiny hands at 8-5/8". If it is a thing, he's not going to be as highly coveted. I, personally, don't know that it matters as much at DE as DT but Spags loves to bring his bigger DEs down inside and then it is a problem. Murphy and McGuire just might not be guys the Chiefs opt for when all is said and done.

Join us, Crow!

We'll get t-shirts and shit...

Yeah, that's one of the "much lower on some guys" I was eluding to when I posted it. Certainly a head-scratcher. I can't see him getting past the early 3rd.

Who am I joining you on? Lol

The DJ/Pest bipartisan mock draft compromise of 2023.

I'll have to tweak it a little and pass it by u guys. I don't like two NTs. I think we need a rotational 3T.

Not sure I like Kuntz over Whyle and both might be there at 4b. That's a tough sell to me.

Also think you guys have Anthony Johnson too low.

Edit: and Saldiveri too low as well.

But those guys or types of players tend to go in the 2nd round....no?

Here DJ, this is what would sell me (had to move some guys where I think they'll be)...

1st: ER Isaiah Foskey, Notre Dame
2nd: WR Rashee Rice, SMU
3rd: OT Blake Freeland, BYU
4a: TE Josh Whyle, Cincinnati
4b: OT/G Nick Saldiveri, Old Dominion
5: DT Keondre Coburn, Texas
6a: FS Anthony Johnson Jr., Iowa State
6b: DT Dante Stills, West Virginia
7a: RB Xazavian Valladay, Arizona State
7b: LB Cam Jones, Indiana

What if I don't like your draft?

Present your own and I'll see if I like yours. :)

Did you get a list of likely available players or did you just wing it?

It's a mock Dj and Pest were throwing out there. I moved some players up they had too low in my opinion (Saldiveri and Johnson) and inserted a couple of changes (Wylie over Kuntz, Stills over Clark) and filled in the one blank with Valladay. It's based on composite rankings and gut feeling.

So I lose McGuire due to the value adjustments but I don't think any of those were unreasonable.

Lemme keep Kuntz and his lunatic measurables over Whyle's polish and I can get behind this...

You know what this is?

It's Willie Gay vs Logan Wilson again. I think you were the one who was adamant on Wilson over Gay, right?

Tools vs Polish. Ceiling vs floor. Dog person vs cat person (morons).

Tale as old as time...

Yep. He was Wilson over Gay.

Funny thing is - I don't think either side was wrong.

But I do think we just got something REAL close to Wilson in Tranquill and got him for very little.

On balance, I think we've been just a little better for taking Gay than we would've been with Wilson but there both very good players.

Yeah I was Wilson over Gay. So far, Wilson has been a much better player. If Gay continues to grow he has the potential to have a better 2nd half of their careers but he'll never be as good in coverage. Not that Wilson is amazing there either but its a little stab against Gay who's pretty bad there.

Yeah, I'd say Wilson has been better than Gay to this point ('much' better?...ehhh).

But again, look at what we got Tranquill and I think he's a real similar but slightly better player than Wilson. Whereas I think Gay has more versatility and more 'splash' potential.

I think the Chiefs are in a better position right this very minute for having taken Gay than they would've been taking Tranquill.

But it's so sliding doors as to barely be worth mentioning. Ultimately I think you have fairly defensible positions either way - I just prefer the upside more often than not. And in a situation where we have a brilliant HC for coaching up TEs and a generational talent with crazy intuition he can learn under - I'm just more excited about gambling on the tools.

If those are our first 3 picks I'll need to stock up on paper towels. You know, for the semen.

Much better, yes. Very rose-colored glasses on Gay as a whole in the Chiefs fandom. He's very mediocre. There's a very good chance he loses his starting gig this year. Not that he won't see snaps but with Tranquill in now it's not out of the realm of possibility.

Taylor has a new Mock out today.

I can't state strongly enough how much I hate his draft content. **** it's awful.

Just in case anyone wants to see how shitty it is.

Traded 31 and a 4th to move up to 26.

1 (26). Mazi Smith, DT
2 (63). Tucker Kraft, TE
3 (95). Roschon Johnson, RB

Traded a 4th, 6th, both 7ths and CEH to the Pats for 107.

4 (107). Braden Daniels, OT
4 (117). Riley Moss, CB - Side note...he never says where he's getting 117 from. No clue how we even got that pick since we had 122 and 135.
5 (166). Dorian Thompson-Robinson, QB
6 (178). Viliami Fehoko, Edge
6 (192). Lonnie Phelps, Edge
6 (210). Jalen Moreno-Cropper, WR

I have no clue where he was getting all of those picks from. We started out with two 6ths and two 7ths but somehow traded away picks and ended up with three 6ths?

It's not quite as bad as Peter King's draft because Smith at least makes sense - it just doesn't make sense to trade up. The rest of them are just...dumb.

That draft is pretty awful...why would we take a QB?

Imma have to give that the ol' frowney face on the Athletic App.

If Nate's not going to put any effort into draft analysis, he needs to stop doing it.