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staylor26 04-20-2023 11:39 AM

Darnell Wright possibly falling due to character concerns?
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hearing some rumblings about some character concerns that may surface before the draft about Darnell Wright. Could create a slide for him.</p>&mdash; JC Cornell (@CornellNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/CornellNFL/status/1649088389709283332?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 20, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Direckshun 04-20-2023 12:08 PM

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staylor26 04-20-2023 12:14 PM

I'm kind of at the point where I'm 100% taking Wright or Harrison if they're there barring somebody else unexpectedly falling too.

Direckshun 04-20-2023 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16910039)
I'm kind of at the point where I'm 100% taking Wright or Harrison if they're there barring somebody else unexpectedly falling too.

Fair -- I'd emphasize DE/DT before RT, and maybe even WR.

But I think Harrison would be a fair selection, and I think Wright would be an outstanding one.

We have Niang under contract for two more years, folks. And we just won the Super Bowl with Andrew Wylie at RT.

DJ's left nut 04-20-2023 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 16910048)
Fair -- I'd emphasize DE/DT before RT, and maybe even WR.

But I think Harrison would be a fair selection, and I think Wright would be an outstanding one.

We have Niang under contract for two more years, folks. And we just won the Super Bowl with Andrew Wylie at RT.

With a one-legged quarterback.

I'd just as soon avoid that situation in the future.

O.city 04-20-2023 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16910154)
With a one-legged quarterback.

I'd just as soon avoid that situation in the future.

Same thing happened in 19....and 20....

Maybe it's the QB?

htismaqe 04-20-2023 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16910154)
With a one-legged quarterback.

I'd just as soon avoid that situation in the future.

Considering that OBJ was the main culprit in that injury and he's now gone, we're already halfway there.

Taylor is going to be an upgrade and whatever OT we take in the 3rd round is going to compete for the RT spot.

We'll be fine.

staylor26 04-20-2023 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16910218)
Considering that OBJ was the main culprit in that injury and he's now gone, we're already halfway there.

Taylor is going to be an upgrade and whatever OT we take in the 3rd round is going to compete for the RT spot.

We'll be fine.

Hell yea we will! We're getting Wright at 31 now!

;) :)

Mecca 04-20-2023 01:57 PM

You gotta be real careful about what comes out now since it's the final week.

htismaqe 04-20-2023 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16910281)
Hell yea we will! We're getting Wright at 31 now!

;) :)

They're not drafting an OT in the 1st round. ;)

Nightfyre 04-20-2023 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16910283)
You gotta be real careful about what comes out now since it's the final week.

I like the concept of teams putting out vague shit like this through the media to tie up other teams resources investigating a wild goose chase. Who doesn't love a solid counter intelligence operation?

DJ's left nut 04-20-2023 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16910214)
Same thing happened in 19....and 20....

Maybe it's the QB?

Little of column A, little of column B for sure.

So lets see how much of column B we can take out of the equation.

No quarterback will ever avoid being hit. And no offensive line will ever keep a passer as aggressive as Mahomes completely clean.

But you can absolutely be better. And when it only takes one hit to fundamentally alter your season, a guy who may take away maybe even just a QB hit every other game sure does seem to present a fair bit of value to me. And ultimately I think Wright and Harrison are guys who can give us a lot more in the margins than that.

DJ's left nut 04-20-2023 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16910288)
They're not drafting an OT in the 1st round. ;)

You comfortable saying that if Wright slides?

And you've already acknowledged that you could see it happening if Harrison is there.

O.city 04-20-2023 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16910365)
Little of column A, little of column B for sure.

So lets see how much of column B we can take out of the equation.

No quarterback will ever avoid being hit. And no offensive line will ever keep a passer as aggressive as Mahomes completely clean.

But you can absolutely be better. And when it only takes one hit to fundamentally alter your season, a guy who may take away maybe even just a QB hit every other game sure does seem to present a fair bit of value to me. And ultimately I think Wright and Harrison are guys who can give us a lot more in the margins than that.

We're nearing the point of some diminishing returns here.

LT -RT if you draft a guy in teh first is gonna be the most expensive OL in teh league by a long shot.

htismaqe 04-20-2023 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16910366)
You comfortable saying that if Wright slides?

And you've already acknowledged that you could see it happening if Harrison is there.

In my mind, Wright was already a bottom of the 1st/high 2nd rounder. If he "falls" it will be past 31. I personally wouldn't draft him at 31. Harrison, I would. There's a couple of other guys I like too but they probably have zero chance of being there, even if we trade up into the 20's.

ToxSocks 04-20-2023 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16910368)
We're nearing the point of some diminishing returns here.

LT -RT if you draft a guy in teh first is gonna be the most expensive OL in teh league by a long shot.

I think the quote was something along the lines of, "It seems the Chiefs have figured out that as long as you protect Mahomes, nothing else matters, and they may be right".

poolboy 04-20-2023 03:04 PM

I really miss this OL
Remmers, Allegretti, Reiter, Wisniewski and Wylie

Wilson8 04-20-2023 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16910368)
We're nearing the point of some diminishing returns here.

LT -RT if you draft a guy in teh first is gonna be the most expensive OL in teh league by a long shot.

That would not be true for this coming season but in the future it could be. We currently are at $37,386,579 for OL which is down the list. The highest would be the Falcons, $60,535,766 followed by the Lions at $59,236,219.

We have seen Patrick Mahomes running for his life and it is always a good idea to protect your franchise. Investing in the OL is a good thing for the Chiefs to do.

https://overthecap.com/positional-spending

Mecca 04-20-2023 03:18 PM

If we go OT first...in 5 years we will have the highest paid Center and one of the highest paid LT's in the league...I assume at that point Thuney and Taylor are probably gone Trey Smith is 50/50.

But yea it is a lot of investment when some other positions may matter more.

O.city 04-20-2023 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 16910411)
That would not be true for this coming season but in the future it could be. We currently are at $37,386,579 for OL which is down the list. The highest would be the Falcons, $60,535,766 followed by the Lions at $59,236,219.

We have seen Patrick Mahomes running for his life and it is always a good idea to protect your franchise. Investing in the OL is a good thing for the Chiefs to do.

https://overthecap.com/positional-spending

You don't think they'll resign any of the young guys?

Mecca 04-20-2023 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16910444)
You don't think they'll resign any of the young guys?

Creed yes, Trey 50/50...Thuney is probably gone when Creed gets paid.

O.city 04-20-2023 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16910445)
Creed yes, Trey 50/50...Thuney is probably gone when Creed gets paid.

For sure Thuney is gone, he's about to likely age out.

I can't see Smith staying, he'll get paid a ton somewhere.

DJ's left nut 04-20-2023 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16910438)
If we go OT first...in 5 years we will have the highest paid Center and one of the highest paid LT's in the league...I assume at that point Thuney and Taylor are probably gone Trey Smith is 50/50.

But yea it is a lot of investment when some other positions may matter more.

Isn't that WHY a cost controlled OT with a 5th year option is so valuable? You can't pay for everyone.

kccrow 04-20-2023 04:31 PM

Let him tumble straight to 31 where I'd gladly bombard Veach with texts to grab him... of course, I just need Veach's number.

UChieffyBugger 04-20-2023 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16910039)
I'm kind of at the point where I'm 100% taking Wright or Harrison if they're there barring somebody else unexpectedly falling too.

Completely agree. This OT class has depth and we might not be able to get a good one for a while so strike while we can I say. Either one would be great.

Couch-Potato 04-20-2023 06:13 PM

He's probably the safest 1st round pick we could make.

Chris Meck 04-21-2023 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16910438)
If we go OT first...in 5 years we will have the highest paid Center and one of the highest paid LT's in the league...I assume at that point Thuney and Taylor are probably gone Trey Smith is 50/50.

But yea it is a lot of investment when some other positions may matter more.

I'm not sure anything matters more than keeping Mahomes healthy.

Dunerdr 04-21-2023 08:18 AM

I've been against rt in R1 but this could change my mind. I was iffy on Anton Harrison depending on the board, but shit this could be a gift from the gods. Sorry about all those Donko years of bullshit, have a stud LT.

Dunerdr 04-21-2023 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16910438)
If we go OT first...in 5 years we will have the highest paid Center and one of the highest paid LT's in the league...I assume at that point Thuney and Taylor are probably gone Trey Smith is 50/50.

But yea it is a lot of investment when some other positions may matter more.

I'd expect us to go back to JAGs at guard like we did when we had stud tackles.

Dunerdr 04-21-2023 01:58 PM

Looks like PFN has adjusted the mock draft simulator for Hyatt and Wright falling.

Couch-Potato 04-21-2023 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16911575)
Looks like PFN has adjusted the mock draft simulator for Hyatt and Wright falling.

Would be amazing to get Wright in the 1st and Hyatt in the 2nd

Dunerdr 04-21-2023 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16911865)
Would be amazing to get Wright in the 1st and Hyatt in the 2nd

I did it in back to back mocks lol. Seems like a pipe dream. I’d JIZZ EVERYWHERE!

Chief Northman 04-22-2023 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16911575)
Looks like PFN has adjusted the mock draft simulator for Hyatt and Wright falling.

Why is Hyatt falling?

bigjosh 04-22-2023 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 16912508)
Why is Hyatt falling?


One dimensional


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Chiefnj2 04-23-2023 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 16912508)
Why is Hyatt falling?

Concerned that he didn’t play in a pro system, might have trouble with press, limited route running.

All that said, I’m sure Andy could scheme him open and his speed would be lethal.

BossChief 04-23-2023 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 16912508)
Why is Hyatt falling?

Imo he’s similar in many ways to Mecole.

Kinda limited in many ways…I think MVS plays the role Hyatt would…

Chris Meck 04-24-2023 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16913408)
Imo he’s similar in many ways to Mecole.

Kinda limited in many ways…I think MVS plays the role Hyatt would…

Well, he's got that one elite trait, and it's a pretty big one.

But yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if we took him, Andy loves him some hot, nasty speed.

I can't see him falling to #63.

There are other guys that I find interesting so I'm not sure Hyatt is the best fit.

I like Rice/Mingo/Mims/Flowers all more, but that's just me.

Mecca 04-24-2023 08:47 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When Wright connects, it&#39;s beautiful. But he isn&#39;t consistent with his hands in that phase of the game.</p>&mdash; Marcus Whitman (@TFG_Football) <a href="https://twitter.com/TFG_Football/status/1649510567189544961?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 21, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

His performance may have more to do with him falling...

DJ's left nut 04-24-2023 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 16912508)
Why is Hyatt falling?

I think he's a little fungible.

He's falling because he's ended up in the 2nd tier with the Mims/Perry/Mingo group of similarly skilled players.

So if you're building a draft board and you think you can get any of those 4 guys and be in a similar spot, but you can get them in the 2nd or even 3rd rounds, it really hurts the value of a guy like Hyatt.

kccrow 04-24-2023 10:44 AM

Hyatt's falling below two guys that drop a ton of balls? Yeah I don't think so. Good luck with that thought process.

Mecca 04-24-2023 10:49 AM

A reality check that people haven't seen is Jeremiah basically said anyone he asked in the league has nothing nice to say about Mims so he probably falls lower than expected.

DJ's left nut 04-24-2023 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16913644)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When Wright connects, it&#39;s beautiful. But he isn&#39;t consistent with his hands in that phase of the game.</p>&mdash; Marcus Whitman (@TFG_Football) <a href="https://twitter.com/TFG_Football/status/1649510567189544961?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 21, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

His performance may have more to do with him falling...

But isn't consistency and technique the most coachable thing in the world?

I'd far rather prefer coach up Wright's technique than try to keep weight of Dawand Jones or get his feet faster.

Dunerdr 04-25-2023 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16913963)
A reality check that people haven't seen is Jeremiah basically said anyone he asked in the league has nothing nice to say about Mims so he probably falls lower than expected.

I'd be even happier to take him lower than expected as a project.

BryanBusby 04-25-2023 10:37 AM

Wright was kind of a guy where it felt like his blocks were more of a product of he managed to be in the rushers way more than anything and he's not going to be able to rely on that anymore.

Dunerdr 04-25-2023 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 16915530)
Wright was kind of a guy where it felt like his blocks were more of a product of he managed to be in the rushers way more than anything and he's not going to be able to rely on that anymore.

Orlando Brown is that you? JK JK mostly

Couch-Potato 04-26-2023 05:43 PM

What character concerns?

kozzman555 04-26-2023 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16917805)
What character concerns?

He banged JC Cornell's mom and didnt call her back.

Tribal Warfare 04-27-2023 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16917805)
What character concerns?

Being Lazy and unmotivated, just getting by on natural talent


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