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Mecca 04-25-2023 02:34 PM

Cris Collinsworth does a mock and it's terrible
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chris Collinsworth’s <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PFF</a> mock draft🤨 <a href="https://t.co/GoAP60IfaE">pic.twitter.com/GoAP60IfaE</a></p>&mdash; Michael Gartman (@_MichaelGartman) <a href="https://twitter.com/_MichaelGartman/status/1650903686116261907?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Rain Man 04-25-2023 02:38 PM

It's nice to get some competition in at quarterback.

The Franchise 04-25-2023 02:38 PM

What the actual ****? I thought it couldn't get any worse than a guard in the first. Chris just proved me wrong.

Mecca 04-25-2023 02:40 PM

Something to always remember with these mocks..

If they think someone is going round 1 a lot of times they'll throw them in so they can say hey I got 10 players in the 1st round!

The Franchise 04-25-2023 02:42 PM

The Seahawks are going with Will Anderson and Van Ness with both of their picks?

Jamie 04-25-2023 03:11 PM

Nobody is that dumb, surely he's projecting a trade-up without bothering to project the actual trade.

DJ's left nut 04-25-2023 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16916057)
Something to always remember with these mocks..

If they think someone is going round 1 a lot of times they'll throw them in so they can say hey I got 10 players in the 1st round!

Yup - and we've seen a TON of that this year.

"I wanted to get this guy in the first..."

It's silly as hell. The best guess i have for Collinsworth is that he meant to note a trade-back by KC there.

Man, I know it would be hilariously anti-climactic, but the 2024 draft is sooooooo gooooood. Shit it's amazing through the top 10. I sure would like to have another 1st rounder next year to potentially get up there.

I'd give up that 1 for a high 3 and next year's 1st in a heartbeat for a team that wanted to get up there and take Hendon Hooker. I know a lot of fans would lose their minds but you'd be talking a team that is already SB capable building up firepower that could help set the foundation for the next 10 years after guys like Jones and Kelce age out.

That's hard to find from the 28-32 spot.

But it's a hell of a lot easier if you're holding 17 and 32. That'll get you into the top 10 in a draft that has some absolutely insane blue chippers at the top. It's so good at the top that it will push guys who are the same caliber as those we're seeing as sure-fire top 5 guys into the early teens next year.

I want that 2024 firepower if I can get it. And if that means moving this years first then doing a tag and trade of Jones as well next season, so be it. Load me the hell up in the top 20-25 next season.

O.city 04-25-2023 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16916145)
Yup - and we've seen a TON of that this year.

"I wanted to get this guy in the first..."

It's silly as hell. The best guess i have for Collinsworth is that he meant to note a trade-back by KC there.

Man, I know it would be hilariously anti-climactic, but the 2024 draft is sooooooo gooooood. Shit it's amazing through the top 10. I sure would like to have another 1st rounder next year to potentially get up there.

I'd give up that 1 for a high 3 and next year's 1st in a heartbeat for a team that wanted to get up there and take Hendon Hooker. I know a lot of fans would lose their minds but you'd be talking a team that is already SB capable building up firepower that could help set the foundation for the next 10 years after guys like Jones and Kelce age out.

That's hard to find from the 28-32 spot.

But it's a hell of a lot easier if you're holding 17 and 32. That'll get you into the top 10 in a draft that has some absolutely insane blue chippers at the top. It's so good at the top that it will push guys who are the same caliber as those we're seeing as sure-fire top 5 guys into the early teens next year.

I want that 2024 firepower if I can get it. And if that means moving this years first then doing a tag and trade of Jones as well next season, so be it. Load me the hell up in the top 20-25 next season.

I kinda figure alot of teams will be having the same thoughts though, so I'm not banking on it.

It'll have to be a tag and trade of Jones to get the picks, if we want them. But nah, great players come from the end of the first round all the time. Or so I've been told.

DJ's left nut 04-25-2023 03:31 PM

And let me clarify - I don't think this is a bad draft. I think it's a pretty ordinary one.

I just think next year's draft is unreal. You have a QB, TE, WR, OT and DE in next year's draft who would all be the top guy taken at that position t his year. And without any question. Each of them will go top 8, IMO. Frankly that could be 5 of your first 6.

And with that, you effectively have this seasons draft starting at about the 7 spot. A 'conventional' draft goes about 15-18 deep in 'first round grades' and I think next year's will go at least 22-24 deep.

DJ's left nut 04-25-2023 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16916148)
I kinda figure alot of teams will be having the same thoughts though, so I'm not banking on it.

It'll have to be a tag and trade of Jones to get the picks, if we want them. But nah, great players come from the end of the first round all the time. Or so I've been told.

Except that many of the teams drafting at the back of the 1st have real pressing needs to address.

And while I think we have some needs at RT and WR, I don't think the talent likely to be there is any better than what we can get in the 2nd.

So if Hooker slides, we're gonna be the team that guys are coming to in order to get back into the 1st and get that 5th year option on him.

AdolfOliverBush 04-25-2023 03:34 PM

The Chiefs are more likely to draft an actual hooker. Collinsworth is ****ing stupid.

O.city 04-25-2023 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16916152)
Except that many of the teams drafting at the back of the 1st have real pressing needs to address.

And while I think we have some needs at RT and WR, I don't think the talent likely to be there is any better than what we can get in the 2nd.

So if Hooker slides, we're gonna be the team that guys are coming to in order to get back into the 1st and get that 5th year option on him.

But that is the same for those teams as well. The Bengals, Bills, etc don't necessarily have pressing needs that can't be filled in the 2nd round.

DJ's left nut 04-25-2023 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16916160)
But that is the same for those teams as well. The Bengals, Bills, etc don't necessarily have pressing needs that can't be filled in the 2nd round.

Possibly.

And Hooker may go in the top 20.

It's all dependent on the board. It's just the sort of scenario that could transpire whereby we're the best game in town.

Rain Man 04-25-2023 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 16916154)
The Chiefs are more likely to draft an actual hooker. Collinsworth is ****ing stupid.

Whatever it takes to make Mahomes happy.

Megatron96 04-25-2023 04:27 PM

When were we taking a G at 31? Is that a thing? Struggling to remember the last time a heard a OG was taken in the first round . . . and since when are we hard up for a G?

raybec 4 04-25-2023 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16916209)
When were we taking a G at 31? Is that a thing? Struggling to remember the last time a heard a OG was taken in the first round . . . and since when are we hard up for a G?

There was a mock posted yesterday that had us taking Ocyrus Torrence out of Florida.

Megatron96 04-25-2023 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16916212)
There was a mock posted yesterday that had us taking Ocyrus Torrence out of Florida.

Thx for the heads up.

Who is that? And I still can't fathom a good reason for Veach to take a G at 31. We need either an OT (not my idea) or an EDGE or a WR a lot more than we need another G.

raybec 4 04-25-2023 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16916219)
Thx for the heads up.

Who is that? And I still can't fathom a good reason for Veach to take a G at 31. We need either an OT (not my idea) or an EDGE or a WR a lot more than we need another G.

Peter King...https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...=348482&page=2

Megatron96 04-25-2023 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16916224)

Generally speaking I like Peter King. And I have to agree with his assessment of Andy and big Gs/OLs. But I think I'd be disappointed if we drafted a G with our first pick.

carcosa 04-25-2023 05:16 PM

PFF is basically just a troll farm disguised as an analytics outfit lmao

bigjosh 04-25-2023 05:35 PM

I know i said i would be a bitch if we trade up for a right tackle.

I will be the biggest **** in the world if we take a qb at 31[emoji23]


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kccrow 04-25-2023 06:14 PM

Just how many concussions did this blabbering ****tard have as a player?

Couch-Potato 04-25-2023 06:34 PM

I only see one odd pick, honestly.

I mean, I'd be happy to trade #31 to a team that wants Hooker assuming they have something quality to offer but I'm not sure he's a good fit for us in the 1st.

kozzman555 04-25-2023 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 16916154)
The Chiefs are more likely to draft an actual hooker. Collinsworth is ****ing stupid.

I mean, after seeing our cheerleader roster we could clearly use the help.


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