31 Kansas City Chiefs: Anton Harrison, OT, Oklahoma Harrison’s a true left tackle, and would give the Chiefs the flexibility to either put Jawaan Taylor back at right tackle, where he played in Jacksonville, or move Harrison there. Either way, getting Harrison here (I think he could go in the teens) would be a steal for the Chiefs. Kansas City’s fished around on a trade up, and I think it’d be with Flowers or Gibbs as a target. If those guys aren’t there for K.C., I’d see Harrison in a group with Michigan DT Mazi Smith and Tennessee WR Jalin Hyatt to be considered at No. 31.
Full Mock:
Spoiler!
2023 NFL Mock Draft 11.0: Only Two Quarterbacks Picked in the Top 10
Bryce Young goes No. 1, but C.J. Stroud, Will Levis and Anthony Richardson all slide down the board.
ALBERT BREER1 HOUR AGO
I know we say it every year, but I mean it this time: This is as hard a draft to predict as I can remember.
And that’s because, as I said to someone the other night, it feels like we’re all looking at a Jenga tower that’s teetering on a piece that reads “Houston Texans” on it. Pull it out correctly, and maybe you can pull a few more blocks as a result. But if you’re shaky on the trigger, the whole thing could come tumbling down. In either case, you’re in the same boat as the people making the decisions.
“Prepared for anything at this point,” says one GM, via text.
Any idea what Houston is doing?
“I really have none,” says an NFC coach.
And after I sent another mock over to a college scouting director for vetting, with a few pieces having moved around since the last one I’d sent him, he responded, “Stroud at 2 now? Where did that come from?”
It came, in fact, from someone telling me to give Stroud to the Texans after most previous information I’d gotten contradicted that. So whereas in a lot of years, I feel like the more I know, the less I know, with one team’s info flying in the face of another’s, it’s especially so this year.
But this is what I’ve gotten after dozens of calls, texts and check-ins with every team in the league over the last two months. Here goes nothing …
1
Carolina Panthers (via CHI): Bryce Young, QB, Alabama
Oct 8, 2022; Tuscaloosa, Alabama, USA; Alabama Crimson Tide quarterback Bryce Young (9) warms up prior to a game against Texas A&M Aggies at Bryant-Denny Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Marvin Gentry-USA TODAY Sports
Young remains the favorite to go No. 1, as things stand on the day before the draft.
The hay’s been in the barn for a while on this one, and we’ve detailed the reasons why. Young’s tape is probably the cleanest of all the QBs in the class, he crushed his meetings with Frank Reich, and he hit a home run on the S2 test that owner David Tepper puts so much stock in. I don’t think anything changed in the Panthers’ final set of meetings, so Young will be the pick.
2
Houston Texans: Tyree Wilson, DE, Texas Tech
The drumbeat on this one has gotten louder, and I’ve heard that Wilson passed his physical with the Texans (not everyone did). Will Anderson Jr. would be the safer pick, and he shares Alabama ties with new coach DeMeco Ryans. But Wilson’s a stronger scheme fit for what Ryans is going to build in Houston, and has the higher ceiling. Not putting C.J. Stroud here certainly nagged at me. And I still think Stroud could be the pick, for what it’s worth.
3
Arizona Cardinals: Will Anderson Jr., edge, Alabama
If he’s stuck at No. 3, Cardinals GM Monti Ossenfort, as I see it, will park this one right in the middle of the fairway, and Anderson is safe as they come. I’ve heard Ohio State OT Paris Johnson Jr. and Illinois CB Devon Witherspoon are in the discussion here, too. But ideally, the first-year GM will deal the pick off and bring a haul home for it—I could see the Colts coming up one spot just to make sure they get their guy.
4
Indianapolis Colts: C.J. Stroud, QB, Ohio State
Stroud is the best fit for Shane Steichen’s offense. I’ve heard assistant GM Ed Dodds, who has juice in that building, really likes him. But, as I’ve also heard it, GM Chris Ballard puts stock in the S2 test, which could be an issue for Stroud. Ballard was all over Will Levis in the fall, and I don’t think Indy has the issue with his personality that other teams do. Then, there’s how the developmental template used on Jalen Hurts (whom Steichen coached in Philadelphia) could work wonders for Anthony Richardson. And even the little tell in the workout with BYU’s Jaren Hall being tucked in with all the others when the Colts were traveling around to see these guys (which could be for the scenario in which the Colts go with a non-QB at No. 4). So I’m holding my breath here and going with Stroud.
5
Seattle Seahawks (via DEN): Jalen Carter, DT, Georgia
I’ve heard Pete Carroll really likes the idea of adding the game-wrecking Carter to his defensive line and is comfortable, after meeting with him, that he can make it work with a guy who’s been taken off the draft board by other teams. The question would then become whether GM John Schneider will be comfortable with it, after striking out on Malik McDowell, who had some off-field concerns, a few years ago. If they don’t take Carter, Wilson and Anderson are names that have come up in connection to Seattle in my conversations, as has Richardson.
6
Detroit Lions (via LAR): Devon Witherspoon, CB, Illinois
If Carter falls here, I think the Lions would think long and hard about it, and might actually take him. In this scenario, though, they’ll be plenty satisfied—Witherspoon’s an outstanding fit for Dan Campbell’s program and Aaron Glenn’s defense. The only question with him concerns his size (6'0", 180). Outside of that? He’s tough, athletic, feisty, sticky in coverage, carries top-end ball skills, and is the type who’ll probably be someone’s team captain in two or three years. In other words, he’s just about everything the Lions have been trying to build.
7
Las Vegas Raiders: Peter Skoronski, OL, Northwestern
My feeling is Josh McDaniels and Dave Ziegler will look for a program fit, and Skoronski would be a good one. I could see Paris Johnson Jr. here, too, and Witherspoon if he were available. But this is one team where the drawback on Northwestern lineman—most of the league thinks he’s a guard and not tackle—would be less of a problem, since Kolton Miller is entrenched at left tackle. The Raiders know they need to get better up front, and this would do that for them.
8
Atlanta Falcons: Lukas Van Ness, DE, Iowa
In a scenario where Stroud goes second, Wilson could fall here, and I think the Falcons would take him—I’ve heard their new DC, Ryan Nielsen, sees some shades of Cam Jordan in his game. Van Ness is the same sort of bigger defensive end favored by the New Orleans scheme Nielsen is bringing. And the one other name here to watch would be Texas RB Bijan Robinson. At No. 8? Maybe. Or maybe GM Terry Fontenot would trade down (Atlanta has called around, fishing for trade-down options).
9
Chicago Bears (via CAR): Paris Johnson Jr., OT, Ohio State
Deep down, I think Johnson will go higher than this (you might be able to flip-flop this pick with the Raiders’ pick). But this, at least in my mind, would be the floor for Johnson, a high-character, tall, long 21 year old who looks like he came off a left tackle assembly line. While he needs to get stronger, he’s young and will have time to do it, and so the ceiling is really high. Skoronski would make sense, too. I’ve heard the Bears would be good with Carter. If he slips, I could see them taking him, and that is in part because, if an offensive lineman they like isn’t there, my sense is they would look for a defensive lineman here.
10
Philadelphia Eagles (via NO): Christian Gonzalez, CB, Oregon
Carter would be a consideration here, which would reunite him with ex-Georgia teammates Nakobe Dean and Jordan Davis. If he’s gone, I think GM Howie Roseman will explore moving down. In the scenario where Carter’s gone, and the Eagles stick, corner would be a top priority. And getting the wildly gifted Gonzalez, who could stand to play a little more physically, would be a gift at No. 10, particularly with the Eagles’ starters at the position, James Bradberry and Darius Slay, going year-to-year with the team.
11
Tennessee Titans: Darnell Wright, OT, Tennessee
This would be a meat-and-potatoes pick for a team that’s doing a roster reset with a new GM. Also, that GM, Ran Carthon, is coming from a place (San Francisco) with a strong emphasis on building through the line of scrimmage. And some of Wright’s tape from Tennessee, particularly the stuff against Anderson in the Vols’ win over Bama, is as impressive as any of the soon-to-be draftees. Taking Georgia’s Broderick Jones might be a bit tempting here, because he’s a left tackle, the Taylor Lewan era just ended in Nashville and Wright might be strictly a right tackle. But I think the Titans would be a little squeamish about taking a Georgia tackle with a few maturity/entitlement concerns, after what they went through with 2020 first-rounder Isaiah Wilson.
12
Houston Texans (via CLE): Will Levis, QB, Kentucky
Kentucky quarterback Will Levis is expected to be a first-round pick in the NFL draft.
Levis could be a top pick, or he could slide out of the top 10 entirely.
I had to find a home for Levis, and if it’s not Indianapolis, it’s hard to find one. Levis has had a very up-and-down ride through the predraft process—from some interviews that left teams wondering about his personality, to the more recent buzz that he’ll go higher than expected. In the scenario I’ve laid out, I do think Richardson would be a consideration. But Levis, who is tough, experienced and was beloved in Lexington, gets the nod, with the feeling he’ll be ready to play faster.
13
Green Bay Packers (via NYJ): Michael Mayer, TE, Notre Dame
Yes, this is high for Mayer. Yes, I think ideally the Packers would get him after trading down (maybe with the Steelers coming up to get a tackle, and the Packers taking the tight end at No. 17). And, yes, I get the feeling Green Bay might like Mayer—the best true two-way tight end in the class—enough to reach a little and grab him here. Tight end’s a big need, and Mayer would be a nice security blanket for new starter Jordan Love. Ohio State slot Jaxon Smith-Njigba would be, too, so he could be the pick here as well.
14
New England Patriots: Broderick Jones, OT, Georgia
The Patriots can sit tight and get a very high-ceiling player to develop in Jones—once a five-star recruit who only started for a year in Athens. There’s a little risk here, and they’d be projecting Jones’s growing up some, on and off the field, which gives me a little pause (the Patriots generally play it safe in the first round). But in the end, it’s too big a need for New England to ignore, and the chance to get a potential Pro Bowl talent, at that position, at this stage of this particular draft, would be too much to pass up.
15
New York Jets (via GB): Jaxon Smith-Njigba, WR, Ohio State
This is where, in my opinion, the Aaron Rodgers trade costs the Jets a little—by going down from No. 13 to No. 15, New York loses the chance to land Jones, who would’ve been my pick for them in their original slot. But as it is, there’s still a spot for a slot left open by Braxton Berrios that people have assumed is earmarked for Randall Cobb. Smith-Njigba would give them another option there, and one with a considerably higher ceiling than Berrios brought to the position.
16
Washington Commanders: Joey Porter Jr., CB, Penn State
I think Washington will go with a corner or tackle here, and the Commanders have done plenty of work on Porter, a long, physical, feisty defensive back who fits what Ron Rivera needs in his scheme. He played a lot of ball for the Nittany Lions and should be able to step in right away for the Commanders, who would be putting a lot of faith in Sam Howell (and they do have that faith in him) by passing on Richardson at this stage of the first round. And I did get a little late information that Washington exec Marty Hurney has advocated for Richardson.
17
Pittsburgh Steelers: Deonte Banks, CB, Maryland
Banks is a player whom I found teams quietly love—he’s got all the athletic ability you want, is already a really good player and has a chance to get a lot better. Also, this always seems to be a need for the Steelers, and it just so happens that Mike Tomlin’s son, Dino, was a member of Banks’s recruiting class at Maryland. So with the top four tackles gone, Pittsburgh can get some help in the secondary (I think you’ll continue to hear about the Steelers’ efforts to move up for one of the OTs, for what it’s worth).
18
Detroit Lions: Bijan Robinson, RB, Texas
Do I think Robinson will fall this far? Probably not. Maybe Atlanta will take him at No. 8. If not, it’s a little harder to find the Texas workhorse a home. I could see the Chargers making a move up to get him. But if they don’t, the Lions, who have explored moving down from this spot, would have to be pretty happy to get the sort of bell cow for their backfield that they haven’t had since Barry Sanders was in Detroit. Robinson’s already a Saquon Barkley– or Zeke Elliott–level talent, and there’s a strong feeling he’s got more in his bag in the passing game that even those in Texas didn’t get a chance to fully see.
19
Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Anthony Richardson, QB, Florida
I didn’t want to give them a quarterback, because I do think the Bucs are excited to see what they have in Baker Mayfield and Kyle Trask. And if it were Levis sitting there for Tampa, I might go with, say, Oklahoma OT Anton Harrison. But the value of Richardson being here, in tandem with the top tackles being gone, makes this a swing that Tampa has to take in its first-year post–Tom Brady. And those other quarterbacks on the roster? They would give the Bucs leeway to sit Richardson for a year if they want to.
20
Seattle Seahawks: Nolan Smith, OLB, Georgia
Carroll and Schneider love athletic freaks like Smith, and he’d give them one who could play the Bruce Irvin role in their defense. On top of that, Smith is as clean as they come from a character standpoint, and having him in the class would help Carter (whom we have them taking at No. 5). And getting both would probably make Seattle a handful to deal with up front in short order.
21
Los Angeles Chargers: Dalton Kincaid, TE, Utah
Kincaid’s dynamic in the passing game, and would only further complicate the problem defenses have dealing with the oak trees the Chargers have at receiver, in Mike Williams and Keenan Allen. I do think trading up for Robinson, or taking a receiver (I’ve heard they like Boston College’s Zay Flowers) to get a year ahead of a need, would make sense too. But Kincaid is a very good fit for what new coordinator Kellen Moore is looking to build on offense.
22
Baltimore Ravens: Zay Flowers, WR, Boston College
Boston College receiver Zay Flowers could be a possibility for the Lions in the 2023 NFL draft after Jameson Williams was suspended.
Several NFL quarterbacks are hoping their teams come away with Flowers in the first round.
Consider this another olive branch to Lamar Jackson, and an important move to address a long-range need, with Odell Beckham Jr. there on a one-year deal. Flowers is a popular man with teams these days (I could see the Chiefs or Rams moving up to get him), and his jack-of-all-trades ability as a gadget guy, paired with an ability to develop into a Brandin Cooks–type of receiver, makes him a very good value here. It’d fun to see what new OC Todd Monken could do with him and Jackson together, both in the run game and the pass game.
23
Minnesota Vikings: Jordan Addison, WR, USC
Addison might be the draft’s best route-runner—I got comps to Calvin Ridley on him—and the Vikings are going to need an affordable option to take the heat off the soon-to-be-very-wealthy Justin Jefferson. The former USC and Pitt star can be that guy. I don’t see, for what it’s worth, the Vikings moving up for a quarterback. If Richardson gets to No. 23, I think they’d consider it. But this would be a good outcome, too (with linemen on both sides, guys like Harrison or Clemson’s Bryan Bresee, part of the equation as well).
24
Jacksonville Jaguars: Bryan Bresee, DL, Clemson
GM Trent Baalke has a roster that, impressively enough, doesn’t have a ton of holes left, and that gives him freedom to go best player available here. And Baalke’s always loved the big fellas, and guys who bring athletic traits, and Bresee checks both of those boxes. The Tigers star has the ability to play different spots along the line, and still hasn’t fully tapped his potential, and would be a very solid fit for Mike Caldwell’s multiple, pressure-happy scheme.
25
New York Giants: Myles Murphy, DE, Clemson
I think Mayer would be a very real consideration, as would Addison (who might give Brian Daboll some Stefon Diggs vibes). But as this mock has played out, both would be gone, and Murphy, whom the Giants traveled to go work out privately, would be a tremendous value. One thing to file away while we’re here—I get the sense the Giants staff really likes Alabama’s Jahmyr Gibbs. Would they take him, with the Saquon Barkley negotiation simmering? Probably not. But the idea of Gibbs playing for Daboll is pretty fun. Another fun idea that probably won’t happen, at least at No. 24? Pairing Darren Waller with mammoth Georgia TE Darnell Washington.
26
Dallas Cowboys: Will McDonald IV, DE/OLB, Iowa State
Demarcus Lawrence isn’t getting any younger, so getting some edge help—which would help enable DC Dan Quinn to use Micah Parsons every which way—would make a lot of sense for the Cowboys. McDonald could stand to get a little bigger, but that can happen with time, and adding a rusher as athletic as he is at this stage of the draft represents pretty good value.
27
Buffalo Bills: Quentin Johnston, WR, TCU
I really did want to put North Carolina’s Josh Downs here, a player whom I think is a really nice Day 2 sleeper, and one who’d settle the need for a reliable slot that the Bills struggled to fill last year (hence bringing back Cole Beasley). But Johnston falling this far would give Buffalo a top-20 quality pick, and someone who could easily grow into Gabe Davis’s role in the offense, with Davis set to become a free agent a year from now. Also, you can find a slot later on.
28
Cincinnati Bengals: Calijah Kancey, DT, Pitt
I’ve heard the Bengals are looking for more interior pass rushing, and the reality with this class is that once you get past Carter and Kancey, it’s slim pickings on true defensive tackles who can do it for you. So as much as I like the idea of Gibbs here, and as much as I think it’d be a consideration if he’s on the board, Kancey would be a sensible pick, if a small reach in the first round.
29
New Orleans Saints (via SF): Felix Anudike-Uzomah, DE, Kansas State
The Saints are another potential trade-up team, perhaps for a pass rusher. But the way this has fallen, they find a hard-charging, stout, long defensive end who fits their mold for the edge. Now, they’d have to hope they get more out of him than they have with more recent first-rounders at the position (i.e., Marcus Davenport, Payton Turner).
30
Philadelphia Eagles: Jahmyr Gibbs, RB, Alabama
Gibbs at No. 30 would become the highest-drafted back in Philly in 37 years (hello, Keith Byars!), and Roseman could justify it by pointing to the pass-game value that the Bama burner brings to the table. Remember, Philly sniffed around on Alvin Kamara last year. Gibbs would give them a faster, less-shifty version of the Saints star.
31
Kansas City Chiefs: Anton Harrison, OT, Oklahoma
Harrison’s a true left tackle, and would give the Chiefs the flexibility to either put Jawaan Taylor back at right tackle, where he played in Jacksonville, or move Harrison there. Either way, getting Harrison here (I think he could go in the teens) would be a steal for the Chiefs. Kansas City’s fished around on a trade up, and I think it’d be with Flowers or Gibbs as a target. If those guys aren’t there for K.C., I’d see Harrison in a group with Michigan DT Mazi Smith and Tennessee WR Jalin Hyatt to be considered at No. 31.
staylor26
04-26-2023 08:37 AM
Sign me up.
Coogs
04-26-2023 08:41 AM
I agree with everything he said. Which is the same thing many here have said for several days/weeks.
Shoes
04-26-2023 08:49 AM
Well thought out mock draft by Albert Breer.
The Franchise
04-26-2023 08:50 AM
Harrison, then Hyatt and then...
Mazi Smith.
O.city
04-26-2023 08:52 AM
If Harrison can play LT and teams see it that way....I don't see a chance in hell he falls to 31.
DJ's left nut
04-26-2023 09:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city
(Post 16916825)
If Harrison can play LT and teams see it that way....I don't see a chance in hell he falls to 31.
Yeah, the lack of helium around Harrison makes me think I'm missing something.
I really don't get it. He sure as hell looks like a guy who should be a top 20 pick in MOST drafts. Let alone one that seems to lack true blue-chip talent at the top.
It's weird.
The Franchise
04-26-2023 09:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut
(Post 16916870)
Yeah, the lack of helium around Harrison makes me think I'm missing something.
I really don't get it. He sure as hell looks like a guy who should be a top 20 pick in MOST drafts. Let alone one that seems to lack true blue-chip talent at the top.
It's weird.
He'll be one of those guys that goes well before our pick and everyone will be disappointed that he didn't fall like we thought he would.
Dunerdr
04-26-2023 09:40 AM
Not sure about the Lions and Bijan. Dont they have Montgomery being paid pretty handsomely and Swift? Id take this as a chiefs fan all day though.
BryanBusby
04-26-2023 09:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city
(Post 16916825)
If Harrison can play LT and teams see it that way....I don't see a chance in hell he falls to 31.
Not necessarily. Here's two reasons why he could make it all the way to 31.
1. A project. You're not gonna put him out on an island Day 1 unless you're ok with him being beat like a drum for awhile.
2. Not a good run blocker. That matters to a lot of teams.
He would be a very clear Day 2 kind of player if this draft wasn't so shitty at the top.
ToxSocks
04-26-2023 09:42 AM
The Jets taking a WR? LMAO
Sure, Jan.
O.city
04-26-2023 09:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BryanBusby
(Post 16916892)
Not necessarily. Here's two reasons why he could make it all the way to 31.
1. A project. You're not gonna put him out on an island Day 1 unless you're ok with him being beat like a drum for awhile.
2. Not a good run blocker. That matters to a lot of teams.
He would be a very clear Day 2 kind of player if this draft wasn't so shitty at the top.
If teams think he can be a good pass blocking LT......he's not falling. It's a passing league, if the guy can excel at that, he's gonna go early.
I don't see how he's a project? He played LT at OU and is being talked about as the next best athletic T from OU. If he falls to 31 I'd guess it's because teams don't think he's a LT at the next level.
DJ's left nut
04-26-2023 10:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Franchise
(Post 16916873)
He'll be one of those guys that goes well before our pick and everyone will be disappointed that he didn't fall like we thought he would.
Right.
When he goes 21 to TB we're gonna get a lot of swearing on this board and ultimately it should be REALLY predicatable.
He's a perfect fit for them there with a premier RT in Wirfs. I mean even if TB likes Goedeke, they'd be converting Wirfs to LT to make Goedeke work.
They'll just take Harrison, plug him in at LT and be quite pleased.
staylor26
04-26-2023 10:34 AM
The closer we get, the more I think it's going to be a WR that falls into our lap as opposed to OT or EDGE.
MahomesMagic
04-26-2023 10:38 AM
Starting to think both Buffalo and Cincinnati go DL.
I used to think Buffalo was taking a LB but now I think it's a defensive tackle. They have no one under contract next year.
The Franchise
04-26-2023 10:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26
(Post 16916982)
The closer we get, the more I think it's going to be a WR that falls into our lap as opposed to OT or EDGE.
I think Veach is going to try and trade up for Van Ness or Murphy.
The Franchise
04-26-2023 10:42 AM
And if they go WR at 31, then I think it's Hyatt.
O.city
04-26-2023 10:45 AM
If the board fell like this, I might call the Saints and see if I could get ahead of the Eagles for Gibbs.
The Franchise
04-26-2023 10:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city
(Post 16917020)
If the board fell like this, I might call the Saints and see if I could get ahead of the Eagles for Gibbs.
I'd be calling Jacksonville and trying to trade up for Murphy.
staylor26
04-26-2023 10:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city
(Post 16917020)
If the board fell like this, I might call the Saints and see if I could get ahead of the Eagles for Gibbs.
Mr. "No RB in the 1st ever" has officially done a complete 180.
raybec 4
04-26-2023 10:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26
(Post 16917048)
Mr. "No RB in the 1st ever" has officially done a complete 180.
At least he isn't trying to trade our entire draft for Brian Burns anymore.
O.city
04-26-2023 11:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26
(Post 16917048)
Mr. "No RB in the 1st ever" has officially done a complete 180.
I've always had a real hard on for a RB/WR in this offense. We saw what it can be with McKinnon last year.
I think Gibbs is a supercharged McKinnon for 5 cheap years. I don't really view it as a RB more as a pure weapon that could do what McKinnon and Hardman did.
DJ's left nut
04-26-2023 11:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26
(Post 16916982)
The closer we get, the more I think it's going to be a WR that falls into our lap as opposed to OT or EDGE.
I've said all along, we have enough needs but none desperate that the odds of there not being a clear 'top of the tier' option available for us at 31 are pretty damn remote.
May be WR, may be OT, may be DE or DT.
But at one of those positions there's going to be a break at or immediately after a player available to us.
I really do think the board will make the pick obvious for us. It's not a given - but I think it's more likely than not.
BryanBusby
04-26-2023 11:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city
(Post 16916910)
If teams think he can be a good pass blocking LT......he's not falling. It's a passing league, if the guy can excel at that, he's gonna go early.
I don't see how he's a project? He played LT at OU and is being talked about as the next best athletic T from OU. If he falls to 31 I'd guess it's because teams don't think he's a LT at the next level.
You're missing the point which is this draft is littered with guys that could become good pass blocking Left Tackles. He's not setting himself apart from the rest of that Tier 3 pack.
In result he could fall because teams simply think they can wait till Round 2 to fill that role.
Not going to guarantee that happens because 95% of this draft will be a total crap shoot but there's some reasons there as to why he could fall. Creed Humphrey was a slam dunk Center from Oklahoma and he slid all the way to the later part of the 2nd round for us. It happens.
BossChief
04-26-2023 12:05 PM
Breer was the most accurate in his mock last year of any of the insiders or talking heads, so this mock and Simms definitely hold more weight than most.
O.city
04-26-2023 12:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BryanBusby
(Post 16917195)
You're missing the point which is this draft is littered with guys that could become good pass blocking Left Tackles. He's not setting himself apart from the rest of that Tier 3 pack.
In result he could fall because teams simply think they can wait till Round 2 to fill that role.
Not going to guarantee that happens because 95% of this draft will be a total crap shoot but there's some reasons there as to why he could fall. Creed Humphrey was a slam dunk Center from Oklahoma and he slid all the way to the later part of the 2nd round for us. It happens.
Creed was a C though. This is a LT.
The draft is littered with good pass blocking LT's?
ToxSocks
04-26-2023 12:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26
(Post 16916982)
The closer we get, the more I think it's going to be a WR that falls into our lap as opposed to OT or EDGE.
Would make sense. Not a lot of WR needy teams and pretty much all the 1st round guys are really late 1st, 2nd round guys.
I heard Chris Simms talking about how he's heard around the league that JSN is viewed by some teams as a 2nd round guy. If that's the case, i really need to trust myself more.
BryanBusby
04-26-2023 12:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city
(Post 16917240)
Creed was a C though. This is a LT.
The draft is littered with good pass blocking LT's?
The draft is littered with projects that can turn into good pass blocking Left Tackles.
You missed the point.
O.city
04-26-2023 12:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BryanBusby
(Post 16917308)
The draft is littered with projects that can turn into good pass blocking Left Tackles.
You missed the point.
Yeah, those guys get drafted high. He's already shown to be a good pass blocking LT at an elite level at a high level college.
If NFL teams think that, he aint' falling to 31. My comment was more toward DJ thinking he's separated himself from that pack. If not, I do agree he could go lower, but I dont' think teams would view him as a legit day 1 LT in that case.
BryanBusby
04-26-2023 01:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city
(Post 16917324)
Yeah, those guys get drafted high. He's already shown to be a good pass blocking LT at an elite level at a high level college.
If NFL teams think that, he aint' falling to 31.
Believe it or not, Left Tackles are also drafted after Thursday night.
Glad I could break that news for you.
DJ's left nut
04-26-2023 02:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BryanBusby
(Post 16917308)
The draft is littered with projects that can turn into good pass blocking Left Tackles.
You missed the point.
That's a far cry from LTs that can come in and start at LT as a rookie at some point. If you take a guy in the 2nd or 3rd with the idea of red-shirting him, you get 3 years (maybe) of quality OT play from him. But if you can take a 1st rounder who may well be able to play in year 1, you're getting 5 years. That's a MASSIVE difference in value.
And even setting the bar lower, there are very very few OTs in this class that have the ability to be the kind of pass protector Harrison has shown capable of being even if they develop as well as you could possibly hope.
JPH83
04-26-2023 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut
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I've said all along, we have enough needs but none desperate that the odds of there not being a clear 'top of the tier' option available for us at 31 are pretty damn remote.
May be WR, may be OT, may be DE or DT.
But at one of those positions there's going to be a break at or immediately after a player available to us.
I really do think the board will make the pick obvious for us. It's not a given - but I think it's more likely than not.
I honestly think with the lack of top talent and abundance of good, high floor guys we're less likely to have a single obvious pick and more likely to have 2, 3, 4 guys that are much of a muchness and it comes down to perceived need.
I guess I can see a scenario where you're right, something like Harrison is available, Johnston, Flowers, JSN are gone, Murphy and Van Ness are gone, and you just go Harrison. But it's more likely for me you've got e.g. Darnell Wright, Kincaid, Hyatt, Felix Anudike-Uzomah and Mazi Smith and it's not THAT obvious. I'm not sure I expect us all to be screaming the same name come pick 31.