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kccrow 04-27-2023 03:55 PM

One Player That's A NO Thanks
 
Give me your one guy in the top 3 rounds you really do not want the Chiefs to draft but there is a good shot they might. Call this my "getting ahead of the Willie Gay pick" thread haha.

For me, it's Gervon Dexter.

I hate his snap quickness, or should I say his absolutely non-existent snap quickness. It's not that he can't play, because he can, but he's a ****ing sloth off the snap making his ceiling much lower than it should be. I give a hard no thank you to a guy that can't get his ass off the ball.

The Franchise 04-27-2023 04:00 PM

Mazi Smith.

Meatloaf 04-27-2023 04:03 PM

Kollman speculated that his late get off had to be related to the keys he was given by his coach (i.e. he was keying on something/someone which resulted in that slow get off). His point was that he was simply too twitchy to be that slow off the ball. FWIW.

kccrow 04-27-2023 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Meatloaf (Post 16919547)
Kollman speculated that his late get off had to be related to the keys he was given by his coach (i.e. he was keying on something/someone which resulted in that slow get off). His point was that he was simply too twitchy to be that slow off the ball. FWIW.

About the dumbest excuse I've ever heard in my life.

DJ's left nut 04-27-2023 04:05 PM

Dalton Kincaid.

I might be interested in him the 2nd. But probably not - there's guys I'd almost certainly like better.

Shoes 04-27-2023 04:10 PM

Couple of the smaller receivers who I see being taken around the 3rd round, Tank Dell and Tyler Scott. I just feel as if their skillsets don't compliment who we have already on the roster.

raybec 4 04-27-2023 04:18 PM

I know he's not going very early but I don't want to draft Zach Harrison. For all the tools he seems to have he completely and consistently under performed.

kozzman555 04-27-2023 04:58 PM

Quentin Johnson. Am just not sold on him at all.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-27-2023 04:59 PM

Quentin Johnson, although if we do, I hope I'm as wrong as ****.

Kellerfox 04-27-2023 06:17 PM

Another vote for the Quentin Johnson camp.

Nightfyre 04-27-2023 06:26 PM

Jaelyn Duncan

Couch-Potato 04-28-2023 07:10 AM

I'll be honest, I was going to reply that kid from K-State.

I hope it works out, but I'm just not sold on the pick yet.

Mecca 04-28-2023 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16919530)
Give me your one guy in the top 3 rounds you really do not want the Chiefs to draft but there is a good shot they might. Call this my "getting ahead of the Willie Gay pick" thread haha.

For me, it's Gervon Dexter.

I hate his snap quickness, or should I say his absolutely non-existent snap quickness. It's not that he can't play, because he can, but he's a ****ing sloth off the snap making his ceiling much lower than it should be. I give a hard no thank you to a guy that can't get his ass off the ball.

If Dexter had elite ball get off, he's a top 15 pick though.

kozzman555 04-28-2023 10:09 AM

Was anyone else DELIGHTED and entertained the Chargers picked Quentin Johnston? I was worried they might do something to actually improve their roster lmao.

The Franchise 04-28-2023 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by kozzman555 (Post 16922576)
Was anyone else DELIGHTED and entertained the Chargers picked Quentin Johnston? I was worried they might do something to actually improve their roster lmao.

Those idiots. I would have expected them to take literally any other WR that was out there. They should have just traded up a couple of spots and took JSN. Now they have an inconsistent, tall WR to go along with a broken Allen and an often hurt Mike Williams.

Mecca 04-28-2023 11:50 AM

They took Johnston because they are going to lose Allen or Williams or both after this season...he's a replacement not a compliment.

The Franchise 04-28-2023 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16922792)
They took Johnston because they are going to lose Allen or Williams or both after this season...he's a replacement not a compliment.

Williams just got a new contract.

Mecca 04-28-2023 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16922800)
Williams just got a new contract.

Take a look at that cap, and that is without a Herbert deal, there is going to be some major changes coming after this season.

Wiliams cap hit in 24 is $32,460,000
Allens is $34,717,500

Their dead cap numbers are basically 11 and 12, they could both easily be cut.

ToxSocks 04-28-2023 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by kozzman555 (Post 16922576)
Was anyone else DELIGHTED and entertained the Chargers picked Quentin Johnston? I was worried they might do something to actually improve their roster lmao.

I was honestly worried they'd take Zay Flowers. Hyatt could've given them an extra dynamic too.

Of course they'd go with a another big, slow WR. Except this one isn't the route runner than Allen is, or the jump ball beast that Williams is.

Johnston on the Chargers just isn't scary, and he's really their insurance plan for the inevitable release of Allen, or injuries to either Allen or Williams.

Honestly, they coulda/shoulda just re-signed Guyton and gotten the same kind of production they'll get out of Johnston's first year.

Johnston just does not add a new dynamic to that offense that sorely needs a new dynamic.

The Franchise 04-28-2023 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16922804)
Take a look at that cap, and that is without a Herbert deal, there is going to be some major changes coming after this season.

Wiliams cap hit in 24 is $32,460,000
Allens is $34,717,500

Their dead cap numbers are basically 11 and 12, they could both easily be cut.

Allen is gone. That’s happening.

Johnson was a stupid pick.

Mecca 04-28-2023 12:09 PM

Instead of taking a compliment in their last "all in" year they took a replacement.

Nightfyre 04-28-2023 12:23 PM

I think they are dumb for not taking Kincaid. He would've worried me a lot more. A shell safety neutralizes Johnston. It's much more difficult to neutralize a guy who is 6'5" and maximizes every inch of his catch radius and has a great feel for soft spots. See: kelce

Mecca 04-28-2023 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 16922867)
I think they are dumb for not taking Kincaid. He would've worried me a lot more. A shell safety neutralizes Johnston. It's much more difficult to neutralize a guy who is 6'5" and maximizes every inch of his catch radius and has a great feel for soft spots. See: kelce

Buffalo basically said they drafted Kincaid to take Beasely's slot spot and he's their "big slot"

Nightfyre 04-28-2023 12:30 PM

Make no mistake about it, Kincaid is the best reciever in this draft imo. He's just tagged as a TE

kccrow 04-28-2023 01:30 PM

From my perspective, I think you guys are off base calling the Chargers stupid for picking Johnston but again my personal view of Johnston is much more favorable than most. He not only can start right now over Palmer but he's the long-term solution to Williams' likely exit. Williams and Johnston on the outside with Allen in the slot seem the most likely play and that is a pretty formidable trio of receivers.

It's also a very deep class at TE so they can still add quality there. Kincaid is good, but he's not without issues of his own, and not all teams may have cleared that back injury. If they add one of Musgrave, Washington, LaPorta or Schoonmaker on day 2, you guys might not be singing such a sweet tune.

Nightfyre 04-28-2023 01:47 PM

See, I view Kincaid as a reciever, not a TE. He would fill a totally different role than any of the other TEs in this class.

MahomesMagic 04-28-2023 02:16 PM

It's late in the game now but thank god we didn't get Bryan Bresee.

I think he's overrated and should have went later.

MahomesMagic 04-28-2023 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16922877)
Buffalo basically said they drafted Kincaid to take Beasely's slot spot and he's their "big slot"

Buffalo made a very good pick. That's fine because they have made a bunch of blunders recently.

DJ's left nut 04-29-2023 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 16922886)
Make no mistake about it, Kincaid is the best reciever in this draft imo. He's just tagged as a TE

He's a 4.7 guy. I don't see 'receiver' at all.

Nightfyre 04-29-2023 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16925812)
He's a 4.7 guy. I don't see 'receiver' at all.

Here I thought the WR position was defined by what you do on the field, not your 40 time. This guy will line up in the Y and run a Y receiver route tree. He will rarely, if ever, play inline.

DJ's left nut 04-30-2023 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 16925997)
Here I thought the WR position was defined by what you do on the field, not your 40 time. This guy will line up in the Y and run a Y receiver route tree. He will rarely, if ever, play inline.

Ah.

So there aren't physical attributes that typically play a large role in the success of a particular position group? Like, for instance, speed for WRs?

Eh - no matter. He's not gonna be very good. Regardless of how you want to classify him.


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