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Chiefnj2 05-01-2023 09:48 AM

Chiefs Almost Traded Back with Raiders
 
Idk if a repost, but from Peter King's FMIA

8:30 p.m.: Two picks left, including Kansas City at 31. Mayer on the mind in the draft room. “If KC comes back to us,” Ziegler said, “wanna do it?”

“Yes,” said McDaniels.

“Best tight end in the draft,” Kelly said.

Short conversation with KC. “Not gonna work,” Ziegler said. KC would have given 31 and 217 (sixth round) for 38 and 70, a net on the points chart of minus-147. “Too many players we like,” Ziegler said. (Ziegler, on Friday, traded from 38 to 35 with the Colts to snag Mayer, the tight end Vegas wanted above all.)

staylor26 05-01-2023 09:52 AM

Yea they would've traded back if the Raiders allowed us to rape them.

Rasputin 05-01-2023 09:53 AM

But they didn't

Direckshun 05-01-2023 09:55 AM

There's just no way that was going to happen anyway.

It was reported, and I think most of us believe, that Hunt anchored the 2023 1st round pick so that Veach couldn't spend it in 2022 when he wanted Jameson Williams because the draft was going to be in KC.

There's no way Hunt would let the Chiefs escape the 1st round without a selection unless the deal was too good to be true.

31/217 for 38/70 would be so clownishly lopsided, it would have been a slam dunk decision by the Chiefs I think. They'd probably still move up from 38 to get FAU if need be, and now they'd have an extra 3rd to play with.

But the Raiders were not going to agree to that under any circumstances, I don't think.

staylor26 05-01-2023 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 16928850)
There's just no way that was going to happen anyway.

It was reported, and I think most of us believe, that Hunt anchored the 2023 1st round pick so that Veach couldn't spend it in 2022 when he wanted Jameson Williams because the draft was going to be in KC.

There's no way Hunt would let the Chiefs escape the 1st round without a selection unless the deal was too good to be true.


31/217 for 38/70 would be so clownishly lopsided, it would have been a slam dunk decision by the Chiefs I think. They'd probably still move up from 38 to get FAU if need be, and now they'd have an extra 3rd to play with.

But the Raiders were not going to agree to that under any circumstances, I don't think.

No matter how much you keep repeating this, it's still not true.

The Franchise 05-01-2023 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 16928850)
There's just no way that was going to happen anyway.

It was reported, and I think most of us believe, that Hunt anchored the 2023 1st round pick so that Veach couldn't spend it in 2022 when he wanted Jameson Williams because the draft was going to be in KC.

There's no way Hunt would let the Chiefs escape the 1st round without a selection unless the deal was too good to be true.

31/217 for 38/70 would be so clownishly lopsided, it would have been a slam dunk decision by the Chiefs I think. They'd probably still move up from 38 to get FAU if need be, and now they'd have an extra 3rd to play with.

But the Raiders were not going to agree to that under any circumstances, I don't think.

Dude...it was dumb in the draft forum and it's still dumb out here. Clark Hunt wasn't going to do any of that shit.

tredadda 05-01-2023 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 16928850)
There's just no way that was going to happen anyway.

It was reported, and I think most of us believe, that Hunt anchored the 2023 1st round pick so that Veach couldn't spend it in 2022 when he wanted Jameson Williams because the draft was going to be in KC.

There's no way Hunt would let the Chiefs escape the 1st round without a selection unless the deal was too good to be true.

31/217 for 38/70 would be so clownishly lopsided, it would have been a slam dunk decision by the Chiefs I think. They'd probably still move up from 38 to get FAU if need be, and now they'd have an extra 3rd to play with.

But the Raiders were not going to agree to that under any circumstances, I don't think.

Is there any truth to that statement or speculation? It seems like speculation with no basis in reality.

staylor26 05-01-2023 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16928861)
Is there any truth to that statement or speculation? It seems like speculation with no basis in reality.

It's literally based on a ****ing obvious joke.

tredadda 05-01-2023 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16928865)
It's literally based on a ****ing obvious joke.

That makes sense. I just wasn't sure how that gained steam as I saw nothing regarding it at all anywhere.

Hoover 05-01-2023 10:08 AM

As a Chiefs fan at the draft on Thursday night, I would have been pumped if the Chiefs had pulled off that trade.

BossChief 05-01-2023 10:21 AM

That’s a trade I make 100 times out of 100.

As far as the hunt first round stuff, Veach made it clear that was strictly for last year and he can do whatever he wants this year.

Hell, the guy they took wasn’t even in town to walk the stage.

dlphg9 05-01-2023 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16928898)
That’s a trade I make 100 times out of 100.

As far as the hunt first round stuff, Veach made it clear that was strictly for last year and he can do whatever he wants this year.

Hell, the guy they took wasn’t even in town to walk the stage.

Huh?

dlphg9 05-01-2023 10:44 AM

There is no way that Clark is telling Veach and Reid what to do with a draft pick or anything at all really.

staylor26 05-01-2023 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16928931)
There is no way that Clark is telling Veach and Reid what to do with a draft pick or anything at all really.

I honestly can't believe how many people actually took that joke/theory seriously.

I also saw Chiefs fans on Twitter wondering if the Chiefs took Rice becuase he's a SMU guy for Clark.

Dunerdr 05-01-2023 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16928845)
Yea they would've traded back if the Raiders allowed us to rape them.

This

notorious 05-01-2023 10:53 AM

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Bugeater 05-01-2023 11:02 AM

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Eureka 05-01-2023 11:03 AM

Raiders GM seems to be doing a decent job at drafting. This is his first complete draft and he landed some decent talent. That TE seems like a good prospect.

The Raiders (like most teams) aren't making any noise without a top tier QB. They now have a 9ers QB outcast and Chiefs fans will tell you how cast off 9er QB's turn out.

BossChief 05-01-2023 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16928931)
There is no way that Clark is telling Veach and Reid what to do with a draft pick or anything at all really.

Veach flat out said before the draft that there was some truth to it.

He immediately followed the comment up with “that was last year” and that he had no restrictions for a trade up in this draft….but later in the same pc said that the range they were talking to teams about moving up was as high as 18 because anything above that would be too expensive…and when you do the math of the charts going up above 18 would require a future first (or a second and third, which also wasn’t going to happen).

Marcellus 05-01-2023 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16928854)
No matter how much you keep repeating this, it's still not true.

Amazing isn't it?

Marcellus 05-01-2023 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16929014)
Veach flat out said before the draft that there was some truth to it.

He immediately followed the comment up with “that was last year” and that he had no restrictions for a trade up in this draft….but later in the same pc said that the range they were talking to teams about moving up was as high as 18 because anything above that would be too expensive…and when you do the math of the charts going up above 18 would require a future first (or a second and third, which also wasn’t going to happen).

He also clearly stated it was a joke, multiple times.

ChiefaRoo 05-01-2023 12:26 PM

King Rappaport reported that a drunken and disheveled Clark Hunt stumbled into the KC draft room on day 1 and demanded that Veach trade up to get Jalen Carter because “that kid got the hit and run dawg in him!” Clark was gently removed and ushered out by his daughter Gracie while a still animated Hunt said, “Get off me bish, you made for the streets!”

Dunerdr 05-01-2023 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo (Post 16929098)
King Rappaport reported that a drunken and disheveled Clark Hunt stumbled into the KC draft room on day 1 and demanded that Veach trade up to get Jalen Carter because “that kid got the hit and run dawg in him!” Clark was gently removed and ushered out by his daughter Gracie while a still animated Hunt said, “Get off me bish, you made for the streets!”

I like this completely made up story better than Direkshuns.

ChiefaRoo 05-01-2023 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16929102)
I like this completely made up story better than Direkshuns.

This guy gets it.

DJ's left nut 05-01-2023 12:33 PM

If it's true, it actually says a bit about how much they liked Uzi.

Because if they didn't like him a lot, they change that 6th to a 5th and at least try to close the gap. It's still a win but not a mauling. They didn't want to risk losing uzi for a mere 'win'.

It's why I said Veach didn't like Moore as much as some of you guys did - he demonstrated a willingness to lose out on him. And even after he traded down, but/for the immediate WR run, he was going to go with Cook.

You can tell how much a team likes a guy by the risks they're willing to take or what they demand in exchange for taking them. Veach and crew clearly liked Uzi quite a bit more than Foskey or White - otherwise they're not making those kinds of demands in order to risk getting one of them instead of him.

dlphg9 05-01-2023 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16929014)
Veach flat out said before the draft that there was some truth to it.

He immediately followed the comment up with “that was last year” and that he had no restrictions for a trade up in this draft….but later in the same pc said that the range they were talking to teams about moving up was as high as 18 because anything above that would be too expensive…and when you do the math of the charts going up above 18 would require a future first (or a second and third, which also wasn’t going to happen).

This literally doesn't make sense, unless it's a joke, which it clearly was. Clark Hunt is not getting involved in any type of personnel/draft capital decisions. He isn't Jerry Jones and gives 100% of the decision to Reid and Veach.


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