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RunKC 05-26-2023 08:18 AM

Choose your Chiefs 2nd year breakout player
 
It’s about to be June aka the worst year for football of the year, so let’s try to get things going with some good conversation.

We usually do this but this year it’s really interesting bc of the 2nd year candidates and amount of rookies we drafted.

Let’s see who ya got fellas (poll incoming)

staylor26 05-26-2023 08:19 AM

Skyy Moore

TLO 05-26-2023 08:20 AM

Skyy Moore.

neech 05-26-2023 08:22 AM

Skyy Moore

rydogg58 05-26-2023 08:27 AM

Obvious answer would be Skyy. Mcduffie, Karlaftis, Cook, Chenal, Watson, Pacheco....that was such a damn good draft we had last year that I can't wait to see what year 2 brings from them.

Wisconsin_Chief 05-26-2023 08:33 AM

Pacheco and Skyy are the two most likely, but since I'd argue Pacheco has already proven himself I'll go with Skyy. He's working his ass off and I'd be willing to wager he'll catch more passes than any WR on the roster, including Toney. I think Mahomes will come to lean on him quite a bit. I love the way he snatches the ball out of the air. He's going to be huge for us.

Zebedee DuBois 05-26-2023 08:34 AM

I think Pacheco already broke out.
I think Skyy showed flashes towards the end of the season, and I would be pleased as punch if he tore it up this year.
I expect all of our players will have good years. They are Chiefs, which is a great indicator of excellence.

RunKC 05-26-2023 08:35 AM

Gonna go with Karlaftis.

5.5 of his 6 sacks, 1 postseason sack, 7 of his 11 QB hits and 42% of his total pressures came after week 10.

Per RGR Karlaftis had a conversion rate (pressures to sacks) of .2 in weeks 1-10 and that skyrocketed to 28% after week 10.

He really started to figure the game out as the year went on and I love that he’s working with Tamba on his technique. Omenihu and Felix will also help him a lot.

I think he gets 10 sacks this year

redfan 05-26-2023 08:37 AM

Skyy, I hope.

Buehler445 05-26-2023 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16959632)
Gonna go with Karlaftis.

5.5 of his 6 sacks, 1 postseason sack, 7 of his 11 QB hits and 42% of his total pressures came after week 10.

Per RGR Karlaftis had a conversion rate (pressures to sacks) of .2 in weeks 1-10 and that skyrocketed to 28% after week 10.

He really started to figure the game out as the year went on and I love that he’s working with Tamba on his technique. Omenihu and Felix will also help him a lot.

I think he gets 10 sacks this year

Came here to post this. If he continues his developmental trend, Furious Gorge will be a problem for bitches.

Shoes 05-26-2023 08:45 AM

For me Kadarius Toney doesn't really have any questions about his game on the field. We know he is extremely talented, the only barrier for him for having a monster season and setting career numbers is if he can stay healthy. He has extra motivation as he is going to need to put some seasons together if he wants a significant second contract.

As fans we forget that these are 20 something year old kids who need to figure out life on top of professional football. Diet, lifestyle, style of training etc. I think Toney has the best chance to breakout this season.

oldman 05-26-2023 08:51 AM

It has to be Karlaftis. Dude came on strong at the end of the season and he's had a full year to gain strength and improve his technique.

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ToxSocks 05-26-2023 09:55 AM

Probably Karlaftis. But i voted Toney because im hoping and wishing and stuff.

Skyy God 05-26-2023 09:57 AM

Skyy.

Not rattling his confidence returning punts will be key.

smithandrew051 05-26-2023 10:11 AM

McDuffie. Might establish himself as a top 5 corner in football.

Flying a bit under the radar after missing time last year.

Dunerdr 05-26-2023 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16959816)
McDuffie. Might establish himself as a top 5 corner in football.

Flying a bit under the radar after missing time last year.

I wanted to vote for him but i felt like he played some really good ball. Those who were really looking already know, but for the national media break out it may be him.

smithandrew051 05-26-2023 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16959836)
I wanted to vote for him but i felt like he played some really good ball. Those who were really looking already know, but for the national media break out it may be him.

I think a lot of people are sleeping on the Chiefs defense this year.

Good chance we’re better at all three levels than last year. McDuffie will be a big part of that.

Mecca 05-26-2023 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16959816)
McDuffie. Might establish himself as a top 5 corner in football.

Flying a bit under the radar after missing time last year.

It depends what you expect from a top 5 CB, as far as not allowing a lot of yards etc yea, I don't think he's ever gonna be a big pick guy though because of his shorter arms.

WhawhaWhat 05-26-2023 10:32 AM

Justyn Ross obviously.

Mecca 05-26-2023 10:34 AM

It "NEEDS" to be Skyy Moore.

Wilson8 05-26-2023 12:51 PM

None of the above.

I think CB Joshua Williams will be the 2nd year Chiefs player with the most improvement.

The Chiefs drafted Joshua in the 4th round out of Fayetteville State and with Chiefs coaching, he will show even more growth.

ThaVirus 05-26-2023 12:58 PM

Toney, McDuffie and Pacheco already appear to be really, really good.

I haven't been impressed with Skyy Moore, like at all. I couldn't vote for him in earnest.

Karlaftis is probably the pick. He was on a good upward trajectory at the end of the year.

ThaVirus 05-26-2023 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16959856)
It "NEEDS" to be Skyy Moore.

Agreed. He was the worst of the bunch and we need a cost-controlled, effective weapon at WR more than any other.

Rain Man 05-26-2023 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16960296)
Toney, McDuffie and Pacheco already appear to be really, really good.

I haven't been impressed with Skyy Moore, like at all. I couldn't vote for him in earnest.

Karlaftis is probably the pick. He was on a good upward trajectory at the end of the year.

I went with Karlaftis because I figure he was good as a rookie and he was learning. Give him a few new tricks of the trade and he's going to hit the next level.

JPH83 05-26-2023 01:17 PM

Toney, if he stays relatively healthy. He's got the most talent and has shown elite skills, we know they love him and there's enough rumours they see him as WR1 type. He just needs health qnd consistency.

BWillie 05-26-2023 01:19 PM

Trent McDuffie and it isnt even close

Womble 05-26-2023 01:20 PM

Toney. I unfortunately think Skyy Moore is a JAG but I'd be delighted to be proved wrong.

Megatron96 05-26-2023 01:50 PM

Toney. he has all the potential to be a legit top-15 WR, but he has to stay healthy for more than 8-9 games/season. He has to play at least 13 games this year, and be able to play in the postseason. Let's go kid, your time is now.

Pitt Gorilla 05-26-2023 02:04 PM

All the guys.

-King- 05-26-2023 02:12 PM

Karlaftis. He really turned it on the 2nd half of the season and the playoffs. If he can build on that I don't see why he can't have double digits sacks this year.

Hydrae 05-26-2023 02:39 PM

I went with Toney because I think he has the highest ceiling thus more room to accomplish a "breakout".

Nightfyre 05-26-2023 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16960446)
All the guys.

Yea where's my "All of the above" option? Can't wait to see all of these guys after a full year in the NFL and systems.

ToxSocks 05-26-2023 06:13 PM

With all the rookies we had, SOMEONE is due for a sophomore slump as well.

saphojunkie 05-26-2023 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16959816)
McDuffie. Might establish himself as a top 5 corner in football.

Flying a bit under the radar after missing time last year.

This could absolutely happen. I don't know if anyone will be talking about it, because he won't get interceptions. Can't intercept the ball when you're blanketing a guy and the QB won't even look at him.

scho63 05-26-2023 06:15 PM

I think it's going to be George Karlaftis. He really excelled in the 2nd half of the season as he learned more. I think he is going to wreck shit.

bringbackmarty 05-26-2023 06:17 PM

Chenal gonna ball.

saphojunkie 05-26-2023 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16960781)
With all the rookies we had, SOMEONE is due for a sophomore slump as well.

have a drink it's a three day weekend

Bump 05-26-2023 06:42 PM

I think Pacheco is already broken out. Toney is pretty likely to have a monster season if he is healthy. But I think furious George gets double digit sacks and has a real breakout season.

tredadda 05-26-2023 06:46 PM

I am going with Moore. I don’t trust Toney’s health yet. Pacheco broke out already, George and McDuffie will be improved but not breakout improved.

TEX 05-26-2023 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16960812)
I am going with Moore. I don’t trust Toney’s health yet. Pacheco broke out already, George and McDuffie will be improved but not breakout improved.

I dont think there is anything special about Skyy. Dont think he has a "break out" in him. I went with George.

tredadda 05-26-2023 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 16960816)
I dont think there is anything special about Skyy. Dont think he has a "break out" in him. I went with George.

Perhaps, but Moore has the greatest QB ever throwing to him. Only thing better for a WR than a contract year is playing with Mahomes.

New World Order 05-26-2023 06:54 PM

Mcduffie is going to look like an all-pro this year

FRCDFED 05-26-2023 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bringbackmarty (Post 16960787)
Chenal gonna ball.

My pick as well. He flew pretty quietly under the radar last year. I expect bigger plays from him this season. As well as him making a couple of players blow snot bubbles.

Pitt Gorilla 05-26-2023 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 16960816)
I dont think there is anything special about Skyy. Dont think he has a "break out" in him. I went with George.

Go back and watch the 2nd chargers game. He didn’t have huge numbers, but he made plays over and over when it counted.

kevrunner 05-26-2023 11:14 PM

Toney’s 2nd year would have been the 2022 season, unless you’re not counting his rookie year with the Giants, I took him out of consideration. Anyway, I voted for Skyy, he actually had a pretty good year with limited targets and it’s only going to get better for him in my opinion.

SAGA45 05-27-2023 03:08 AM

Furious George

ThaVirus 05-27-2023 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16960781)
With all the rookies we had, SOMEONE is due for a sophomore slump as well.

My money would be on one of the corners, probably J Wat or Josh Williams.

Or someone else due to injury. That would most likely be Pacheco or Toney.

Hog's Gone Fishin 05-27-2023 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16959632)
Gonna go with Karlaftis.

5.5 of his 6 sacks, 1 postseason sack, 7 of his 11 QB hits and 42% of his total pressures came after week 10.

Per RGR Karlaftis had a conversion rate (pressures to sacks) of .2 in weeks 1-10 and that skyrocketed to 28% after week 10.

He really started to figure the game out as the year went on and I love that he’s working with Tamba on his technique. Omenihu and Felix will also help him a lot.

I think he gets 10 sacks this year


My thoughts as well. although I could see ALL these guys breaking out because they're all awesome.

cripple creek 05-27-2023 06:43 AM

the Greek freak

Otter 05-27-2023 07:28 AM

Pacheco wouldn't really be a breakout player IMHO. He's already broke out. Above and beyond expectations. Dude is a baller. I seriously think we have Priest Holmes part deux in that man.

Skyy.

Rasputin 05-27-2023 07:42 AM

I feel like McDuffie already had a break out season. He is a lock down corner an he's just going to improve. This defense is going be scary good.


I think Skyy is going need to make the most out of opportunities or he will be criticized like Hardman. I can see Rice taking the #2 wr by mid season.

493rd 05-27-2023 08:02 AM

All of them and that’s not unreasonable to expect.

jjchieffan 05-27-2023 08:08 AM

I went with Furious George. He finished the season strong. That trends towards a breakout season. But, it was such a great draft I could see several breakout players.

notorious 05-27-2023 08:17 AM

Skyy has no limit.

(He does, but I think he's a 1000 yard guy)

RunKC 06-04-2023 07:14 PM

Feeling good about this guy.

Quote:

George Karlaftis
George Karlaftis
Kansas City Chiefs · Age 22
It is not a coincidence that the Chiefs moved on from Frank Clark after Karlaftis' strong rookie season. The high-motor edge defender tallied six regular-season sacks and added another in the AFC Championship game while honing his craft as a first-year player. As Karlaftis settles into his role as the designated pass rusher beside All-Pro DT Chris Jones, we could see his sack production surge with regular one-on-one opportunities on the edge.
https://www.nfl.com/news/2023-nfl-al...oised-to-make-

Chris Meck 06-04-2023 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 493rd (Post 16961092)
All of them and that’s not unreasonable to expect.

Holy shit! Look at you being all positive and shit!

Chris Meck 06-04-2023 07:41 PM

I'm not sold that Toney stays healthy for a full season. I think it's ok, though, because I fully expect Skyy to kick ass.

Pitt Gorilla 06-04-2023 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 16961075)
Pacheco wouldn't really be a breakout player IMHO. He's already broke out. Above and beyond expectations. Dude is a baller. I seriously think we have Priest Holmes part deux in that man.

Skyy.

Pacheco is faster than Holmes ever dreamed of being.

Chiefshrink 06-04-2023 08:36 PM

Some believe Pacheco has already broke out but I see him just on the cusp of greatness and when he makes several "take it to the house 40-60 td yd runs" like JC did(and I believe that he will) then he will in my mind have officially broke out.:thumb:


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