Every NFL team's best Hall of Famer
 

I'm sure there's some good discussion here.

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Lol. I've been a football watcher since the early 90s and I've never heard of Sam Mills in my entire ****ing life.

Who the **** was that? If I've never even heard his name, is he REALLY HOF worthy?

Deion is right. They let just about anybody in this ****ing thing these days.

Man, this is all wrong. I'm driving today, but as soon as I stop I'll fix it.

For a team that's won a few Super Bowls, a left guard isn't your best player ever.

Brady will be the obvious replacement there when he’s inducted.

But isn’t Hannah one of the greatest OL of all time?

He really should have been under New Orleans until I saw who New Orleans had for their HOFer.

Dome Patrol, played with Pat Swilling, Ricky Jackson, and Vaughn Johnson. They were the reason San Fran didn't win the NFC West for the hundreth time in a row.

I discovered him playing Tecmo Super Bowl 30 years ago. LMAO

Heh, I meant the Raiders... didn't see the Patriots over there, too.

That’s funny. I really zeroed in on the Patriots for some reason.

Who would you replace Upshaw with?

Raiders legend Jerry Rice, of course. :D

Probably Marcus Allen or maybe Tim Brown... not well-versed enough in Raiders SB glory years, but surely their best player ever had more impact than even (if he were) the best interior offensive lineman ever? :shrug:

Curtis Martin over Joe Namath for the Jets?!

LMAO

Dick Butkus vs Walter Payton is tough.

Gene Upshaw is the best Raider ever. Guard isn't as impactful as WR or RB, but he was a lot better at his position than Tim Brown or Marcus Allen. The next best Raider would be another lineman, Art Shell. Otherwise, no guard should ever be considered the best for his franchise.

Yeah, that one is tough. I'd probably pick Payton.

Heck yeah. Namath isn’t really a HOF in many peoples books

Rice was there what 3 years? I would pick Brien or Upshaw since they were there their entire careers

I can envision Barry Wilner turning around and facing the twitter hordes screaming "COME AT ME BRO".

Tomlinson vs Alworth is a tough one for me

For the AFL era Chiefs, I’d argue Bobby Bell (voted 1st team all-pro five consecutive years) over Willie Lanier. I think many people would take DT over both.

Lanier is the right pick. He anchored what is arguably the best defense in Chiefs' history. He gets it over DT because he won a Superbowl.

Lanier is a reasonable choice.

That ‘69 defense was sick. With 2 HoFers at every level.

Bobby Bell
Buck Buchanan
Curly Culp
Willie Lanier
Johnny Robinson
Emmitt Thomas

Three other players made the pro-bowl or were second-team All Pro that year:

Jim Lynch
Jerry Mays
Jim Marcellus

Only two starters never received any post season accolades, but both had very solid careers:

Aaron Brown
Jim Kearney

It's Mahomes actually

Oh it will be for sure. He's already the best Chief of all-time, even if he never played again.

He was a 5'9 220 lb LB but I remember him more in his 9 years with N.O. Aints.

He was a tough hard nosed LB but HOFer was one of those wtf selections.

I’d go with Len Dawson for the Chiefs best HOF’er.

Of course Mahomes will eventually have that title.

TRASH!!!

I love Deacon Jones but Marshall Faulk was the first, and BEST, modern NFL RB. TOTAL BS

I'm not taking Willie Lanier over DT either.

Joe Montana over Jerry Rice as well.

Tom Brady not making the cut for the Patsies is a complete joke as well.

I think I'll go back to watching Hank Stram highlights. Feel free to join.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OPAcT2...ayBzdHJhbSA%3D

Well, reerun, Brady isn’t in the hall of fame so doesn’t qualify. Faulk had about 3 good seasons, DT never won shit (and by your qualifier of not even needing to be in the Hall of Fame it’s clearly Mahomes anyway), and I don’t know how you argue to greatest WR of all time beating out Montana. Go back to being in the middle of a gang bang of your uncle and sister.

Peyton Manning over Johnny Unitas is criminal

Tim Brown finished in top 5 categories when he retired despite playing with a bunch of scrubs at QBs until Gannon arrived.

So? Tony Gonzalez and Larry Fitzgerald did the same. If you're talented, play a long time and stay healthy, you'll put up big numbers as a receiver, regardless of who your QB is. You need a good QB to win championships. Not to put up big numbers.

Andre Johnson too

Len Dawson for leadership and wins
Bobby Bell for pure athleticism and tenacity.

John Elway? I'd say he's like their fourth best. Maybe.

Willie Lanier played great on shitty teams in the early 70's and he NEVER mailed it in.

Guy is tops in my book.

He was a Jersey boy who wrecked shit in high school, college and pros. He played in NJ for both high school and college. He had a chip on his shoulder and was a tough tackling machine. I remember watching him in high school and college.

Very underrated.

too young to have seen Willie Lanier play. But he was pretty good for me in Madden's ultimate team when I was doing a Chiefs theme team. Bobby Bell sucked but I never got to watch him either, but Lanier was a hell of a coverage LB in that game lol.

Manning wasn’t even the best hall of famer on those Colts teams.

In terms of pure talent, pre knee injury Edgerrin James was the best player I ever saw.

The thing that sticks out about both of them is how big they were compared to other players on the field. Fast too.

Lanier was a complete LB, who played sideline to sideline, as well as shooting the gap. He was a hard hitter who was always throwing his body around. And as you mention, he could play coverage too, finishing his career with 27 career interceptions, ninth in KC history to this day. This is a pretty good representation of how he played.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpNgf1X7eHs


Bell was just incredibly athletic for a big man. He shared many characteristics with Lanier, including ability to play both the run and the pass, finishing with 26 career interceptions. Smaller sample of plays, but you'll get the idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wwxeHN5uXc&t

It's a really good, well researched list.

If I would make a change, it would be Johnny Unitas over Peyton Manning.

I'd pick Bell over Lanier but it's splitting hairs IMO

LOL. Edgerrin, is that you?

I assume you were mostly watching the Chiefs and the AFC then? Sam Mills was pretty ****ing good but he played for an NFC team that did not play a lot of primetime games and he played for the Saints when they sucked.

Hank Stram would agree with you.
He said Bobby Bell was the best player/athlete he ever coached.

In the video about Bobby Bell there is a play beginning at 1:53 against the Colts. That game was the second ever Monday Night Football game played in 1970. That was the first year after the merger. The Colts, Browns, and Steelers had agreed to move to the AFC.

After the Chiefs lost the 1st Super Bowl there were some NFL players that ran their mouths about how the Chiefs sucked. The Chiefs players heard it all. Johnny Unitas was one of the more outspoken NFL players in that regard. The Chiefs couldn't wait for that game. Remember that the Colts 1970 team won the Super Bowl that year, but the Chiefs were out for blood. The Chiefs won the game 44-24. The clip at 1:53 shows Bell hitting Unitas just about as hard as he possibly could. You can actually see Unitas bounce off the turf a bit. It was a very satisfying win.

I remember Mills but I'm surprised Julius Peppers isn't the Carolina choice. Mills only played several seasons in Carolina later in his career. Peppers was there longer and was one of the league's best pass rushers at the time.

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I think he is actually only now HOF eligible. He'll get in, and immediately replace Mills on this list.

NFL players don't go into the HOF with a team designation. Peyton Manning is a better player than John Elway was. The Broncos entry should also be Peyton Manning.

Julius Peppers got popped for steroids. He's not exactly a shoo in.

Bill Bellichek would agree and said as much that Bell was the best he ever saw.

This is a ridiculous argument, too.

Manning had three years with the Broncos (2012-14). Defense carried him in 2015.

Elway, albeit overrated, was a great QB from 1993-98 in the West Coast offense. Six years > Three.

I forgot Peppers played until he was like 50.

Jaromir Jagr still has at least five seasons until he's HHOF eligible. :)