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Is Caleb Williams the next Patrick Mahomes?
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Is Caleb Williams the next Patrick Mahomes?
Let us track this young man's progress as he begins his quest to usurp the King's throne.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">caleb williams…lol…what do you even say? <a href="https://t.co/lJLdBBzXDg">pic.twitter.com/lJLdBBzXDg</a></p>— Kyron Samuels (@kyronsamuels) <a href="https://twitter.com/kyronsamuels/status/1698106164024573975?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 2, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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Nope.
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You wanna get thrown back into the DC gulag? Because this is how you get thrown back into the DC gulag.
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Blasphemy!
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Odds are extremely low. Pretty sure Mahomes' a unicorn, like Barry or MJ.
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A very special young man.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Caleb Williams is NOT REAL <a href="https://t.co/DlNK85Uq6q">pic.twitter.com/DlNK85Uq6q</a></p>— Jacob (@Stroud4ROTY) <a href="https://twitter.com/Stroud4ROTY/status/1695603553316806702?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 27, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
No.
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Cardinals think so. They tanking hard.
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Nope
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No.
**** off with this DeBerg attention whoring nonsense. |
Bust, soft
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He's Geno-enhanced. Never to be a Patrick.
I understand why you love him |
Every QB that can move out of the pocket and look for a big play is going to be compared to Mahomes. Didn't the Packers draft Love due to this comparison?
He does look good though, but I bet you'll have to wait at least 3 more generations before you find anyone on Mahome's level. That's a once in a lifetime QB really. I've never seen anyone that good watching football for 30 years. |
**** off, Clay. Go search for the attention you crave in DC.
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When i watch Caleb Williams play, all i can think about is how much this is gonna drive Patrick Mahomes to be even greater.
This is the closest thing to Mahomes we've ever seen, talent wise. And Mahomes knows it. Of course he's got a looooong way to go to reach Mahomes level of greatness. But all this will do is drive the GOAT to be greater. |
I'm not taking a thing away from Williams, but I am curious to see him perform at a level that isn't a college conference on the brink of collapse.
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Gonna have to see his dick next to a stick of deodorant before I answer
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We are starting to see some people saying Caleb Williams is/will be better than Patrick Mahomes. I think it’s ridiculous, but there are people that feel that way. I was wondering if anyone here would choose Caleb over Mahomes. So the choice is simple: who would you rather have as QB for the next 12 years? Williams Or Mahomes?
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LOOKS PRETTY GOOD AGAINST SHORT BUS UNIVERSITY
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Why is it that most Black QBs are compared to Patrick Mahomes?
Justin Fields Trey Lance Bryce Young Kyler Murray And now Caleb Williams Can we just appreciate players for who they are without the lame comparisons? |
What makes Mahomes great is not his physical attributes but it’s more mental it’s his drive to be perfect working tirelessly to fix even the smallest flaws, and his incomparable will to win. He has a gift and it’s a gift of unmatched character like what Jordan has we are not going to see it again so soon in any sport
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Nothing personal Clay, but just the fact you make this comparison tells me you never played the game.;)
I don't care how athletic or big gunned a QB is, IF he never learns to play chess at the QB position in the NFL and continues to play checkers he will just be JAAQB(Just Another Athletic QB) with a limited mind thus limiting his athleticism in the long run in the NFL. And we have witnessed many, many of those in the last 20yrs. Very few have had the whole package. Aaron Rodgers had what Peyton and Tom did not have, a big arm and athleticism but all played great chess. We are now blessed as a fanbase to be presently witnessing 'thee best NFL QB' of all time(barring injury and future bad drafts) taking the NFL QB position to a whole new level playing backyard football at the chess level"never seen before". Aaron's backyard ball doesn't even come close to Pat IMO |
his NFL career will be determined by where he ends up
coaching / organization matters |
Yo Clayster
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I assure you all 31 other HCs were NFL masturbating to PAT on Netflix's series ("QB") only wishing their QB had Pat's heart and head.:drool: |
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Simple. Deberg and Pete. |
He's damned good and he seems to be wired the right way.
I wouldn't put anyone even close to Mahomes but he could easily work his way into the top of the 1b conversation with Burrow, Allen, Herbert, and Lawrence. Planning to go to the ND/USC game in Octobert and pretty excited to watch the guy live. |
I'm going to burn your house down
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More likely the next Sam Darnold.
Or Mark Sanchez. Or Matt Leinart. |
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Figures you are a sucker for an overhyped fraud. |
LOL PLEASE!
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If he did have a chance previously the poor guy just got the Claynus kiss of death.
Check my sig for his remarkable foresight on Patrick Mahomes. |
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I don't believe any of the 3 QBs you mentioned ever made the Pro Bowl. I'll bet you Caleb Williams does in one of his first 3 seasons. Fair? If not, you come up with the specs for a bet. Happy for the stakes to be money or a year ban on here. |
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One looks a lot more like Mahomes off-platform outside the pocket than the other two. |
The best part of this is when Arizona replaces the last “midget next Mahomes” with the current “midget next Mahomes”
And they get taught their lesson twice. |
This idea of there being another Patrick Mahomes irritates me deeply. There is no other Patrick Mahomes! There is simply Patrick Mahomes and no other. This is in the same sense as there is only one Michael Jordan and no other. There COULD be another unique talent but that's still a staunch difference than the original.
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Maye looks like a Herbert clone to me. He's really good, but plays for a lesser team in NC and without Lincoln Riley's excellent offensive coaching. |
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? You think Caleb is a midget? Since when is 6'1" 215-lb. midget status? |
Not a chance! Looks good, I will admit, but NO in the Mahomes comparison.
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I saw this thread and looked for the thread starter. I thought that it was another Deberg thread.
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Mods… Romper Room time?? JK we need his content when the season starts. Ban Dildo Joe until Dungver finishes with a winning record instead!!
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He's got the physical ability but does he have the same game management/leadership skills that translate to the NFL?
As others have stated Pat was drafted into a pretty solid system with a HC that his skills play into. To match Pat he's going to need a good GM and HC that can build everything he needs around him to be successful. And when I say successful I mean rings. |
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Go on the record now. |
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If he falls short of that hype threshold… you ban yourself forever for hyping a fake “Next Mahomes” narrative. Deal? |
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There’s having the best NFL career of all time and then there’s saying he’s going to be like Darnold, Sanchez, and Leinart. Quote:
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So, for the next umpteen years, media pundits will compare that person to Patrick Mahomes. Why? Because Mahomes is the best. He does things no other quarterback ever has.
I recognize the progress of history. Eventually there will be a QB who posts better records and is worthy of comparison. Right now that's hard to believe but its inevitable. But the time to make that decision is after the person has been in the league for a few years, is in 100% of the conference championship games during his career, has fewer than 2 losses by more than 1 TD, etc. Until that time comes, though, I can make this real simple: the answer to the following question: "Is [fill in hot new college QB] the next Patrick Mahomes?" will be 'NO'. |
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Tap out acknowledged. ROFL |
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Nice that you can post big boy comments on the internet that you’re afraid to stand behind. |
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I am saying bust. You WERE saying more likely to be closer to Mahomes until you realized the laughable stupidity of your argument and now you are backtracking like a bitch. Do yourself a favor and tap out.. you have already thoroughly embarrassed yourself (yet again). LMAO |
one thing i've noticed with almost all these guys that get the NEXT MAHOMES!!!11one comp, most are skinny/short bitches
that dude the panthers drafted is a shrimp and so is kyler caleb is a bit thicker, but 6-1, 215 lbs is certainly not mahomes territory |
If he gets drafted by an AFC team, I'm gonna pee into Goodell's beady dead little eyes
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Williams can clearly throw the ball all over the field but Pat in 2018 is not the same Pat in 2023. Defenses will take that backyard stuff away most Sunday's and he's gonna have to do it from the pocket which isn't his strength right now. We also need to see him against better competition. The guys he's facing right now just aren't cutting it. |
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There will never be a next Patrick Mahomes II. He's The Beatles.
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Part of what confuses me on his ability is the difference in their college rosters. Williams seems to have a lot of talent around him. A good OL, some really great WR’s.
I don’t think TTU’s roster talent was anywhere near what Williams has at USC. Still, he’s pretty talented. |
Caleb is pretty talented, but he has also been surrounded with a lot of talent at both Oklahoma & USC. Guess we'll see how it plays out for him in the NFL, where the guys on his team won't be better than the guys on the other team.
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Nah. Tom Brady’s retired, dude |
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Tyler Huntley was a Pro Bowl QB last year… enough said. The fact you equate being a “Pro Bowl QB” to being a top level QB… LMAO |
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Non homer glasses on - he’s the closest I’ve seen. Granted he’s playing with 5 stars as opposed to 2 stars. Mahomes has the stronger arm, and is probably an inch and a half taller. But the arm angles and play making is there. But he’ll never catch Mahomes with the accolades. Especially if Gannon is his coach
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Tyler Huntley was voted to the Pro Bowl as the 5th (!) alternate after Mahomes, Burrow, and Allen were voted the starters. And then the alternates were Tua, Herbert, Lawrence, Lamar, and then…Huntley. We can make the bet that he’s voted in as one of the top-3 in his first 3 years and then you’d agree he probably needs to be pretty good to reach that? Deal? |
Lincoln Riley does a great job getting his guys drafted #1.
Once they get to the NFL… I mean they weren’t total busts. I agree that Williams is on a different plane than Baker and COD boy. But I don’t think him going to the Cardinals is a recipe for turning him into Mahomes |
I made a Caleb Williams post in the NFL Cuts thread. Here it is.
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Good luck on future bets. |
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He’s fun to watch. I’m glad he’ll wind up somewhere in the NFC to balance things out a bit. |
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And I'm certainly open to being wrong. That's why I went with the hot take meme. Maybe I should just say I see some hot takes. If he is good, he definitely needs to go to the NFC. Except the Cow****s. **** the Cow****s. |
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So does Carson Wentz. Do you consider Wentz and Huntley “top 5-10 QB’s” because they both made the Pro Bowl during their first three years in the NFL? LMAO |
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Wentz absolutely would though. He was playing like a top 5-10 QB in 2018. None of the 3 guys - Sanchez, Leinart, and Darnold - you said Williams would be like has ever been to a Pro Bowl. You bring up Wentz as a quasi-exception but I could bring up a ton of guys who all made the PB in one of their first 3 years who grew into perennial top 5-10 guys. Manning, Brady, Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, etc. Roethlisberger didn’t make the PB in that timeframe. It’s okay if you’re afraid to make a bet on the internet that would prevent you from making such impressive hot takes for a year of your life if you’re wrong. I imagine you must derive great personal satisfaction from this sort of thing. |
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