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Direckshun 09-07-2023 04:40 AM

Dan Campbell
 
I don’t get it.

I ridiculed this hire the second the Lions made it, in part because Bienemy had been interviewing and I was convinced EB was a slam dunk hire.

Instead, Campbell gets hired by the Lions. And it’s very clear to me from his first press conference that he’s a huge dingdong.

He says stupid things. He doesn’t seem to possess a reservoir of intelligence that I can detect. He gave an interview with Pat McAfee where he literally describes himself as being distracted by fans doing the wave.

What is going on? Why has he worked out in Detroit so far? Is this the best con job in America, and it turns out this guy is absolutely a genius?

How the hell has Dan Campbell worked out?

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-07-2023 04:51 AM

John Dorsey

CupidStunt 09-07-2023 05:02 AM

So now it's EMBS instead?

Rasputin 09-07-2023 05:02 AM

Wasn't he the inventor of the telephone?

ku_jhawk23 09-07-2023 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17089951)
I don’t get it.

I ridiculed this hire the second the Lions made it, in part because Bienemy had been interviewing and I was convinced EB was a slam dunk hire.

Instead, Campbell gets hired by the Lions. And it’s very clear to me from his first press conference that he’s a huge dingdong.

He says stupid things. He doesn’t seem to possess a reservoir of intelligence that I can detect. He gave an interview with Pat McAfee where he literally describes himself as being distracted by fans doing the wave.

What is going on? Why has he worked out in Detroit so far? Is this the best con job in America, and it turns out this guy is absolutely a genius?

How the hell has Dan Campbell worked out?

Long term...it won't work..he's a tool.

Jewish Rabbi 09-07-2023 05:20 AM

Saw an interview where he claimed he did not like pooping in Kohl’s. Dude is a literal dumbass

RealSNR 09-07-2023 06:03 AM

*shrug* Sometimes stupid coaches can win in the NFL.

From all reports and stories we hear, Mike McCarthy is an absolute dumbass. Not the same kind of dumbass as Campbell, but a dumbass nonetheless.

I'm convinced Sirianni is a dumbass, too.

And it's not just dumbassery. There are glaring flaws with just about every coach in the league, personality or otherwise. Hell, try to explain Mike McDaniel. Komboucha-swigging Todd Haley is actually doing an effective job?

Certain coaches do well because they negotiate their glaring flaws well among their staff and excel in other ways. For Campbell, I assume players legit love playing for that guy. Sometimes the jester can be the king and still do a good job.

HemiEd 09-07-2023 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 17089964)
Saw an interview where he claimed he did not like pooping in Kohl’s. Dude is a literal dumbass

:LOL: Thank you for starting my morning off with a laugh.

melvin2345 09-07-2023 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17089951)
I don’t get it.

I ridiculed this hire the second the Lions made it, in part because Bienemy had been interviewing and I was convinced EB was a slam dunk hire.

Instead, Campbell gets hired by the Lions. And it’s very clear to me from his first press conference that he’s a huge dingdong.

He says stupid things. He doesn’t seem to possess a reservoir of intelligence that I can detect. He gave an interview with Pat McAfee where he literally describes himself as being distracted by fans doing the wave.

What is going on? Why has he worked out in Detroit so far? Is this the best con job in America, and it turns out this guy is absolutely a genius?

How the hell has Dan Campbell worked out?

Because despite what people think of his personality and his sound bites, the guy knows football.

He played in the NFL for 10 years.
He has prior head coaching experience (albeit assistant and interim).
He learned a lot while working for Sean Payton.
He brought in a coaching staff that knows football, mostly former players.
He gets the best from his players because they actively play FOR him. He builds them up and his energy is contagious.
Sure he makes mistakes from time to time, but he knows more about the game than most.

dlphg9 09-07-2023 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by melvin2345 (Post 17090023)
Because despite what people think of his personality and his sound bites, the guy knows football.

He played in the NFL for 10 years.
He has prior head coaching experience (albeit assistant and interim).
He learned a lot while working for Sean Payton.
He brought in a coaching staff that knows football, mostly former players.
He gets the best from his players because they actively play FOR him. He builds them up and his energy is contagious.
Sure he makes mistakes from time to time, but he knows more about the game than most.

No, he's a dumb ass.

Simply Red 09-07-2023 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by melvin2345 (Post 17090023)
Because despite what people think of his personality and his sound bites, the guy knows football.

He played in the NFL for 10 years.
He has prior head coaching experience (albeit assistant and interim).
He learned a lot while working for Sean Payton.
He brought in a coaching staff that knows football, mostly former players.
He gets the best from his players because they actively play FOR him. He builds them up and his energy is contagious.
Sure he makes mistakes from time to time, but he knows more about the game than most.

He probably wouldn't even make the Chiefs Athletic Supporter department. Let's pump the brakes a little bit melvin.

ROYC75 09-07-2023 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by melvin2345 (Post 17090023)
Because despite what people think of his personality and his sound bites, the guy knows football.

He played in the NFL for 10 years.
He has prior head coaching experience (albeit assistant and interim).
He learned a lot while working for Sean Payton.
He brought in a coaching staff that knows football, mostly former players.
He gets the best from his players because they actively play FOR him. He builds them up and his energy is contagious.
Sure he makes mistakes from time to time, but he knows more about the game than most.

A good staff can get a lot done and all he has to do is be a great cheerleader to fire up the players!

A lot of football playets in this world do not speak well when put on the spot but their football intelligence is usually spot on.

dlphg9 09-07-2023 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 17090031)
He probably wouldn't even make the Chiefs Athletic Supporter department. Let's pump the brakes a little bit melvin.

Oh he wouldn't even be allowed to sniff our teams jock straps. He's too God damn dumb.

BWillie 09-07-2023 06:59 AM

**** his knee caps

Why Not? 09-07-2023 07:01 AM

He has one season where he was over .500 (by one game). I guess that's "working out" for the Lions but I'll need to see more before naming him the next coming.

BigRedChief 09-07-2023 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17089951)
I don’t get it.

I ridiculed this hire the second the Lions made it, in part because Bienemy had been interviewing and I was convinced EB was a slam dunk hire.

Instead, Campbell gets hired by the Lions. And it’s very clear to me from his first press conference that he’s a huge dingdong.

He says stupid things. He doesn’t seem to possess a reservoir of intelligence that I can detect. He gave an interview with Pat McAfee where he literally describes himself as being distracted by fans doing the wave.

What is going on? Why has he worked out in Detroit so far? Is this the best con job in America, and it turns out this guy is absolutely a genius?

How the hell has Dan Campbell worked out?

Agree with your initial assessment. I thought he was stupid after that first press conference.

Eleazar 09-07-2023 07:06 AM

The door closes softly with a click, and Campbell turns toward a mirror as the lights dim. He removes his cap. He begins to peel away the makeup, the prosthetic skin, the fake eyebrows and hair. Then with one final sweep and stretch the mask is removed, and the light falls across the chiseled visage of one Rich Scanlon.

duncan_idaho 09-07-2023 07:09 AM

Ben Johnson is the best answer I can provide.

Will Campbell’s success last once Johnson takes a HC job?

I suspect “No.”

Also suspect Johnson lands with the team that drafts one of Caleb Williams or Drake Maye, and is in better shape than the other.

DrunkBassGuitar 09-07-2023 07:20 AM

the only campbells i want to hear about is soup that eats like a meal

notorious 09-07-2023 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 17090043)
He has one season where he was over .500 (by one game). I guess that's "working out" for the Lions but I'll need to see more before naming him the next coming.

When a team drafts in the top 5 for nearly 30 years straight the talent should overcome some coaching issues.

I’m assuming this is what’s going on.

RealSNR 09-07-2023 07:52 AM

And hey, you can't have one without the other. If a little bit of dumbassery makes you more approachable and creates a better team environment, then you absolutely lean into that.

Think Andy and all his fat guy and cheeseburger jokes. He's an offensive genius, yes, and he's also a tough coach, but he gets results, and one of the many tools he uses is, "Look at me, I'm a fat guy."

Think about the opposite, where it's nothing but Xs and Os and saying smart shit all the time. You get Adam Gase. And ironically, people think he's an absolute dumbass of a coach because he just completely lacks any kind of charm.

I think Brandon Staley has that same problem. He got hired by getting sneezed on by McVay, and he's clearly well-spoken in press conferences and the like. People think, "Hey, he speaks without verbal tics and doesn't use cliches as much as other coaches. And analytics!!! Boy is that guy ever smart!" But when you've only ever basically coached Division 3 college football and never played in the league, it's not always that simple.

crispystl 09-07-2023 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 17089957)
Wasn't he the inventor of the telephone?

No, the soup.

Rainbarrel 09-07-2023 08:12 AM

https://fbschedules.com/2022-detroit-lions-schedule/

Hammock Parties 09-07-2023 08:15 AM

He's already a better NFL coach than EB will ever be.

EB should be coaching HS football.

Rainbarrel 09-07-2023 08:16 AM

He almost outwitted Josh Allen on a Thursday night

Marcellus 09-07-2023 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17090025)
No, he's a dumb ass.

Let the record show that dlphg9 believed Dan Campbell, 10 year player and to this point successful coach in the NFL is a dumbass.

dlphg9 would certainly be able to make that determination given his personal hot takes over the years in this forum.

raybec 4 09-07-2023 12:00 PM

Perhaps Direckshun's coaching evaluations are just as accurate as his player evaluations.

T-post Tom 09-07-2023 12:06 PM

Does he play/coach to win the game? That’s all we need to know.

tredadda 09-07-2023 12:12 PM

Good drafts by Dorsey and surrounding himself with good assistants probably has a lot to do with his success. Plus the players seem to relate to him which could say a lot.

Megatron96 09-07-2023 12:14 PM

DET desperately needed a culture change, and Dan did that. Hell, not that different from what Andy did when he came to KC. Or when he first arrived in PHI.

Will he be successful in the long-term? No idea. We'll probably know after his coordinators start getting other jobs over the next couple years. And how cooperative his ownership is as time goes on.

But it's a fact that they found their identity last season, that they were the highest scoring team in the league over the last 8 or 10 games with 29.8 pts/gm (McAfee referenced that stat this morning, don't remember who he cited), and that since Week 9 of last season, they allowed just one team to score more than 25 points on them.

Gravedigger 09-07-2023 12:15 PM

He's discount Mike Vrabel.

New World Order 09-07-2023 12:17 PM

I think he was Ubeja Vontell

Megatron96 09-07-2023 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 17090604)
He's discount Mike Vrabel.


Lol, I would love to see Vrabel and Campbell in Celebrity Death Match (or whatever that show was called).

Rain Man 09-07-2023 12:36 PM

I make merciless fun of the lion-walking, kneecap-biting troglodyte. I figured he would be a disaster of MattMillenian scale. I recognize that I'm probably not a typical NFL mindset, but if I was a rookie and got drafted to that coach, I would be morose. I'll admit, though, that the guy clearly loves football, which I can appreciate, and I'm curious about the second half of last season and what went right for that team.

My money is still on a career winning percentage in the 40 percent range, though.

Gibby 09-07-2023 01:00 PM

Dan Campbell is smarter than you.

But he's happy to let you believe he's an idiot.

That's his secret.

Wilson8 09-07-2023 01:04 PM

How the hell has Dan Campbell worked out?

Dan Campbell's NFL record as a head coach with the Detroit Lions -
2021 - 3–13–1 record
2022 - 9 - 8 record

The Lions last year beat the Packers and the Bears twice and split with the Vikings.

They lost some close games to the Vikings, Seahawks, Dolphins, and Bills.

They lost badly to the Cowboys and the Patriots.

The Lions are getting better, but NFL teams will expect more from them in 2023 and will be better prepared for them.

It will be a good and entertaining game with the Lions and Chiefs, but for sure Andy Reid out coaches Dan Campbell.

Rain Man 09-07-2023 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gibby (Post 17090673)
Dan Campbell is smarter than you.

But he's happy to let you believe he's an idiot.

That's his secret.

Well, he's really good at selling it, then.

Red Dawg 09-07-2023 01:38 PM

He's a meat head.

Coochie liquor 09-07-2023 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17090600)
Good drafts by Dorsey and surrounding himself with good assistants probably has a lot to do with his success. Plus the players seem to relate to him which could say a lot.

Literally either had no idea Dorsey was in Detroit, or totally forgot about it. That could have a lot to do with it.

ToxSocks 09-07-2023 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17090605)
I think he was Ubeja Vontell

I honestly think Bearcat was Ubeja Vontell. /Shrug

Chief Roundup 09-07-2023 08:23 PM

Passion, connection, real, believable, past player, respected.

big nasty kcnut 09-07-2023 08:50 PM

He look like he smoke 6 pack of cigarettes a day.

redfan 09-07-2023 09:27 PM

The rarely seen red-eared meathead.

ReLion 09-07-2023 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17090025)
No, he's a dumb ass.

The kind of dumbass that would go for it on 4th and 25 on his own 30 with 2 minutes to go and 3 time outs?

MarkDavis'Haircut 09-07-2023 09:55 PM

This thread aged well.

BWillie 09-07-2023 09:56 PM

Nothing Campbell did reinvented the wheel. The Chiefs gave the game away plain and simple. Mahomes played fine. WR lost he game. Pure and simple, they lost the game.

Rainbarrel 09-07-2023 09:56 PM

Hehe like MD avy

B_Ambuehl 09-07-2023 10:05 PM

He's the closest thing to Parcells since Parcells. A lot of coaches he coached with are or try to be very Parcells like - Sean Payton, Todd Haley etc. But underneath all the tough guy stuff Campbell is very open & vulnerable & it's not fake. Parcells could create a culture of "us" vs the world better than any coach I can remember - Cowher was pretty close. I see Campbell doing that. What really sets him apart is he really cares about his players. I read an article last week Parcells has given like $4 million to former players - 20 years from now I could see Campbell doing the same thing and he's about the only coach I could see doing that.

Pasta Little Brioni 09-07-2023 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl (Post 17095151)
He's the closest thing to Parcells since Parcells. A lot of coaches he coached with are or try to be very Parcells like - Sean Payton, Todd Haley etc. But underneath all the tough guy stuff Campbell is very open & vulnerable & it's not fake. Parcells could create a culture of "us" vs the world better than any coach I can remember - Cowher was pretty close. I see Campbell doing that. What really sets him apart is he really cares about his players. I read an article last week Parcells has given like $4 million to former players - 20 years from now I could see Campbell doing the same thing and he's about the only coach I could see doing that.

Good lord. I thought the loss was the worst thing to come from Toneys drop. Nope it birthed this too....

In58men 09-07-2023 10:34 PM

I’m not buying into the hype

jerryaldini 09-07-2023 10:38 PM

He was the biggest reason I thought the Chiefs would win. And he made a few head scratching decisions. But in the second half Andy and Nagy managed to top him. Never would've expected that.

crayzkirk 09-07-2023 10:41 PM

I think talent can make a mediocre coach look good and a good coach look great. The Lions have a lot of talent in the trenches which comes from being not good for a long time.

I'm not sure what to make of going for it from your 18 yard line on 4th and 3 and then punting from the opponents 40 yard line on 4th and 3. Personally, I would rather the Chiefs just always run their normal offense until they get down close to the goal line. Not sure why they tip their hand and say: We're running a gadget play now...

Eleazar 09-07-2023 10:42 PM

Campbell made at least two really poor decisions that could have lost the game. He was bailed out by us playing like a bunch of reruns

ChiefsCountry 09-08-2023 12:05 AM

Direction proves he is an idiot once again.

ChiefsCountry 09-08-2023 12:06 AM

Dan Campbell is basically the modern day version of Bill Cowher

Rain Man 09-08-2023 12:17 AM

Dan Campbell is a modern-day Tom Cable in my opinion.

Hammock Parties 09-08-2023 12:19 AM

The Lions were bailed out by our drops.

The only team that can beat the Chiefs...is the Chiefs.

Megatron96 09-08-2023 01:51 AM

Congrats to Coach Campbell, his staff and the Detroit Lions. They came ready to play, and stole a W from KC in Arrowhead.

Like I said, they aren't the same old Lions.

notorious 09-08-2023 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut (Post 17095055)
This thread aged well.

To be honest, he didn’t make our wide receivers drop easy catches and his amazing offense only scored 14.

Now, if you want to pick our coaching staff apart for baffling jet sweep calls and other decisions on 4 down, be my guest!

bobhill 09-08-2023 06:10 AM

Hes like the Gunther Cunningham of the lions

melvin2345 09-08-2023 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobhill (Post 17095717)
Hes like the Gunther Cunningham of the lions

So you're saying he's more Gunther Cunningham than ACTUAL Gunther Cunningham when he coached for the Lions?

Fansy the Famous Bard 09-08-2023 07:20 AM

Dan Campbell is a modern-day Ben Schwartzwalder in my opinion

B_Ambuehl 09-08-2023 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 17095360)
I think talent can make a mediocre coach look good and a good coach look great. The Lions have a lot of talent in the trenches which comes from being not good for a long time.

I'm not sure what to make of going for it from your 18 yard line on 4th and 3 and then punting from the opponents 40 yard line on 4th and 3. Personally, I would rather the Chiefs just always run their normal offense until they get down close to the goal line. Not sure why they tip their hand and say: We're running a gadget play now...

Where do you think that talent comes from? Campbell has built the team with a tremendous emphasis on the trenches. He is a literal Parcells clone as far as how he wants to build the team and play the game.

MahomesMagic 09-08-2023 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17090055)
Ben Johnson is the best answer I can provide.

Will Campbell’s success last once Johnson takes a HC job?

I suspect “No.”

Also suspect Johnson lands with the team that drafts one of Caleb Williams or Drake Maye, and is in better shape than the other.

Correct. Ben Johnson is the next Brian Daboll.

Great playcaller putting a mediocre coach, in Buffalo's case it was McDermott, on the map.

notorious 09-08-2023 09:17 AM

He gets credit for being lucky enough to play the Chiefs during their worst game.

None of our errors were forced. Zero.

AdolfOliverBush 09-08-2023 09:19 AM

Campbell is a ****tard who had last night's game handed to him on a silver platter.

IowaHawkeyeChief 09-08-2023 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 17096131)
Campbell is a ****tard who had last night's game handed to him on a silver platter.

^this^ if Toney catches the pass after the 4th and 2 debacle, they are roasting him in Detroit this AM...

AdolfOliverBush 09-08-2023 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17096140)
^this^ if Toney catches the pass after the 4th and 2 debacle, they are roasting him in Detroit this AM...

Or if Toney had the shits and didn't play at all.

Gibby 09-08-2023 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17096125)
He gets credit for being lucky enough to play the Chiefs during their worst game.

None of our errors were forced. Zero.



They weren't forced because Taylor got away with cheating and holding all night vs. Hutchinson. Finally called at the very last minute.

Hutch still had a major impact.

Fansy the Famous Bard 09-08-2023 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gibby (Post 17096183)
They weren't forced because Taylor got away with cheating and holding all night vs. Hutchinson. Finally called at the very last minute.

Hutch still had a major impact.

I had a major impact on your mom.

ToxSocks 09-08-2023 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gibby (Post 17096183)
They weren't forced because Taylor got away with cheating and holding all night vs. Hutchinson. Finally called at the very last minute.

Hutch still had a major impact.

LMAO

They had to move his ass inside because he was getting owned by our tackles. GTFO with that bullshit.

HC_Chief 09-08-2023 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 17096131)
Campbell is a ****tard who had last night's game handed to him on a silver platter.

lol yep, said the same last night. They went for it on 4th down?! LOL, there's your "Detroit doing Detroit things to lose the game" moment. You dun ****ed up, a-a-ron, NEVER give Patrick Mahomes the ball late in the game with a single score deficit to overcome. The guy will kill you!

And he did. Except our receivers decided not to participate in the killing and rolled over like little bitches, giving the game away.

crayzkirk 09-08-2023 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl (Post 17096110)
Where do you think that talent comes from? Campbell has built the team with a tremendous emphasis on the trenches. He is a literal Parcells clone as far as how he wants to build the team and play the game.

The draft... it's a lot easier building a team when picking at the top of each round for a decade than the bottom of each round.

Balto 09-08-2023 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 17096154)
Or if Toney had the shits and didn't play at all.

IF the game was in Detroit maybe Toney would have had explosive diarrhea all over himself and Moore so they couldn't play.

Gibby 09-08-2023 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 17096527)
LMAO

They had to move his ass inside because he was getting owned by our tackles. GTFO with that bullshit.

Excuse me?

Jawaan Taylor became a national punchline overnight for his cheating, false starts and holding that didn't get called. Every national outlet was going on about it today.

No one owns Hutchinson without cheating. Now Taylor has to man up and play it straight next week. Let's see how that goes, buddy.

Pepe Silvia 09-08-2023 06:37 PM

He sucks, needed Jones and Kelce gone as well as 20 drops in order to win.

Hammock Parties 09-08-2023 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17096125)
He gets credit for being lucky enough to play the Chiefs during their worst game.

None of our errors were forced. Zero.

That's exactly what I thought when Toney dropped that pass that got pick sixed.

"Feh. Unforced error. We're still winning."

Then the Chiefs just kept ****ing up as hard as they could. ROFL

Gibby 09-08-2023 06:43 PM

Chiefs are not a good team.

They have a few players and not much depth at all - which is the definition of a good team. Can't complain about 2 SBs. Great memories.

But the Chiefs window is already closed, 34 year old banged up TE as the top playmaker? LOL. Mahomes is still great, but there not much else to hang your hat on. Time to wake up guys. NFL is too competitive to get by any longer like this.

Rain Man 09-08-2023 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gibby (Post 17097305)
Excuse me?

Jawaan Taylor became a national punchline overnight for his cheating, false starts and holding that didn't get called. Every national outlet was going on about it today.

No one owns Hutchinson without cheating. Now Taylor has to man up and play it straight next week. Let's see how that goes, buddy.

Let me put this in language you can understand.

You can try to knock Jawaan down. But he's going get back up, and he's going to bite you in the kneecap on the way up. And then if you hit him again, he's going to bite you in your other kneecap. And if you knock him down again, he's going to take another bite out of you. And another bite. And then he'll get up again. And again. And he'll bite you again. And again.

Pepe Silvia 09-08-2023 06:47 PM

The Lions will go to the playoffs and lose.


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