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Coochie liquor 09-25-2023 08:00 AM

State of the AFCW 2023 edition
 
So far Chiefs are in sole first place. The Dungkeys will be lucky to win 5 games. The Fade…. McDaniels really kicked a FG on 4th and Goal from the 8…. Down 8…. With 2:30 to go. And Chargers look worse than last year. Now looks like Mike Williams may be done for the season. This division is ours for the taking, and BACK TO BACK starts with that!

deegs 09-25-2023 08:03 AM

I do like me some Chiefs football

Coochie liquor 09-25-2023 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by deegs (Post 17128712)
I do like me some Chiefs football

No weigh… U2???

kcgreene 09-25-2023 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by deegs (Post 17128712)
I do like me some Chiefs football

I too, enjoy Kansas City Chiefs football!

Rain Man 09-25-2023 08:10 AM

Mike Williams is injured? It must be September already. Where has this year gone?

Simply Red 09-25-2023 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 17128709)
State of the AFCW 2023 edition


I need to poop rn.

Bearcat 09-25-2023 08:12 AM

The NFC has been hot garbage in recent years, but WTF is happening to the AFC so far... Bengals obviously need to get their shit together. Dolphins will be wait-and-see for December and January . I've thought the Jags are stupid overrated, but they look worse than the mediocre team they were last season.

And then like you said, the rest of the AFC is just as bad or worse so far.

It's still early obviously, but as someone who's generally not impressed by most NFL games, this seems even more terrible.

notorious 09-25-2023 08:13 AM

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Bearcat 09-25-2023 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 17128718)
I need to poop rn.

I've heard Kohl's is good for this.

notorious 09-25-2023 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17128725)
I've heard Kohl's is good for this.

This is good advice.

Where does one receive such accurate information?

FlaChief58 09-25-2023 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17128730)
This is good advice.

Where does one receive such accurate information?

Chiefsplanet.com has great information in the art of quality poops

notorious 09-25-2023 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by FlaChief58 (Post 17128733)
Chiefsplanet.com has great information in the art of quality poops

Chiefsplanet.com.....is that web address a reference to my favorite professional football team, the Kansas City Chiefs?

Sassy Squatch 09-25-2023 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17128721)
The NFC has been hot garbage in recent years, but WTF is happening to the AFC so far... Bengals obviously need to get their shit together. Dolphins will be wait-and-see for December and January . I've thought the Jags are stupid overrated, but they look worse than the mediocre team they were last season.

And then like you said, the rest of the AFC is just as bad or worse so far.

It's still early obviously, but as someone who's generally not impressed by most NFL games, this seems even more terrible.

Yep. I and many others crowned Jacksonville too early. They're pretty clearly not a realistic contender yet. Still representing the AFC South but bounced in the Wild Card round.

RockChalk 09-25-2023 08:23 AM

The Chiefs who are from Kansas City happen to be my favorite football team, so this AFCW 2023 update makes me happy.

Abba-Dabba 09-25-2023 08:24 AM

same as it ever was

notorious 09-25-2023 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch (Post 17128739)
Yep. I and many others crowned Jacksonville too early. They're pretty clearly not a realistic contender yet. Still representing the AFC South but bounced in the Wild Card round.

The Colts are #1 with Texans 2nd. LMAO

Who would have thought?

smithandrew051 09-25-2023 08:27 AM

Chiefs owned the division with average or bad defenses.

Chiefs are elite on defense now. It’s over.

FlaChief58 09-25-2023 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17128738)
Chiefsplanet.com.....is that web address a reference to my favorite professional football team, the Kansas City Chiefs?

Yes, it's a multifaceted site that covers many pertinent subjects including my favorite nfl franchise, the Kansas City Chiefs

Hammock Parties 09-25-2023 08:31 AM

feels like we're just waiting for tua and jalen to get hurt so everyone can throw their faith in josh allen to stop us LMAO

Rainbarrel 09-25-2023 08:31 AM

McJowls and Crappalo are good enough for 3rd place

frozenchief 09-25-2023 08:36 AM

Buffalo looks like they may be legit and have gotten over the 13-second game hangover.

Miami looks really good but Tua has always been susceptible to injuries. Posting 70 was undoubtedly impressive, even against Denver but time will show how much of that was Miami and how much was Denver.

Otherwise?

Baltimore was supposed to have a good year but they've shown some definite cracks.

Cincy has not looked good so far, in part b/c of Burrow's injury. We will learn more tonight but they don't look like the same team from the last couple of years.

Pittsburgh looks solid but not like a contender.

Jets chances went out the window with Rodgers.

Jacksonville - beat by Houston?

Chargers - injuries and poor play calls are going to haunt them. I think Minnesota lost that game more than Chargers won.

Really surprised at how this year has turned out so far. It's admittedly a long season but some of these teams have put themselves into holes early.

KC_Lee 09-25-2023 08:37 AM

This begs the question; does KC sweep the AFC West in back to back years?

FlaChief58 09-25-2023 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 17128769)
This begs the question; does KC sweep the AFC West in back to back years?

Barring something fluky, I don't see how we don't

smithandrew051 09-25-2023 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by frozenchief (Post 17128767)
Buffalo looks like they may be legit and have gotten over the 13-second game hangover.

Miami looks really good but Tua has always been susceptible to injuries. Posting 70 was undoubtedly impressive, even against Denver but time will show how much of that was Miami and how much was Denver.

Otherwise?

Baltimore was supposed to have a good year but they've shown some definite cracks.

Cincy has not looked good so far, in part b/c of Burrow's injury. We will learn more tonight but they don't look like the same team from the last couple of years.

Pittsburgh looks solid but not like a contender.

Jets chances went out the window with Rodgers.

Jacksonville - beat by Houston?

Chargers - injuries and poor play calls are going to haunt them. I think Minnesota lost that game more than Chargers won.

Really surprised at how this year has turned out so far. It's admittedly a long season but some of these teams have put themselves into holes early.

Buffalo, KC, and Miami clearly look like the best 3 teams in the AFC in some order.

All have question marks, but KC easily gets the most benefit of the doubt imo.

Chiefs loss really should have been a win despite missing 2 top 10 players in the league.

Buffalo has blown out a couple bad teams, but we know they love running the score up. I think their run defense is really bad and I don’t trust Josh Allen still.

Miami has looked great, but Tua has real injury concerns that could pop up at any time. We need to see them win in cold weather too.

Rainbarrel 09-25-2023 08:42 AM

The Josh Allen love continues to mystify me

KCUnited 09-25-2023 08:44 AM

I’m pulling for KC here

Hammock Parties 09-25-2023 08:46 AM

Half of Baltimore is hurt already. They will fade.

DrunkBassGuitar 09-25-2023 08:53 AM

1) Chiefs
2) Miami
3) Bills
4) The rest
5) Broncos

Bearcat 09-25-2023 08:54 AM

The Dolphins are currently the 2020/2021 Bills teams that are out to prove the doubters wrong by running up the score on teams... why they would keep their injury prone QB in the game at the beginning of the 4th is beyond me (especially when you're racking up rushing yards like that), but it's hilarious they still managed to score a couple more times after that.

I wish their game against the Chiefs wasn't in Germany, just to remove that variable of having teams deal with flying to a different country midseason... but, will be interesting to see where they're at in another month and then again in January.

Direckshun 09-25-2023 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by FlaChief58 (Post 17128771)
Barring something fluky, I don't see how we don't

The Chargers play up to us, and their edgerush is going to be in Mahomes' lap all day.

I'd still bet the Chiefs to sweep, but ending the season in LA is going to be a tough win to notch.

Direckshun 09-25-2023 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar (Post 17128801)
1) Chiefs
2) Miami
3) Bills
4) The rest
5) Broncos

I think the Chiefs are going to be the best team in the AFC by the end of the season unless the Bengals figure themselves out, but at this point, in Week 3, you have to conclude the Dolphins are probably the #1 team in the AFC.

smithandrew051 09-25-2023 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar (Post 17128801)
1) Chiefs
2) Miami
3) Bills
4) The rest
5) Broncos

Need a bigger gap between 4 and 5, but otherwise agree

Bearcat 09-25-2023 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17128827)
I think the Chiefs are going to be the best team in the AFC by the end of the season unless the Bengals figure themselves out, but at this point, in Week 3, you have to conclude the Dolphins are probably the #1 team in the AFC.

I dunno....

Dolphins beat the now 1-2 Chargers by 2 on a last minute TD.
Chiefs lose by a point to the now 2-1 Lions

Dolphins underwhelmingly take care of a mediocre (at best) Patriots team.
Chiefs underwhelmingly take care of a mediocre Jags team.

Dolphins demolish the Broncos.
Chiefs demolish the Bears.

The Dolphins were far more in sync on offense in week 1, but their defense also looked terrible. Chiefs defense has of course been a major strength.

It's hard to ignore 70 points of course, even if the Chiefs probably put up a couple more TDs yesterday if Mahomes stays in... not that those games tell us anything about anything.

If we're talking an ESPN attention grabbing power ranking of the feels right this very moment... sure, give it to the Phins this week. They clearly wanted that prize.

DrunkBassGuitar 09-25-2023 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17128827)
I think the Chiefs are going to be the best team in the AFC by the end of the season unless the Bengals figure themselves out, but at this point, in Week 3, you have to conclude the Dolphins are probably the #1 team in the AFC.

You're not wrong but you have to consider that I'm an unabashed homer.

DrunkBassGuitar 09-25-2023 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17128843)
I dunno....

Dolphins beat the now 1-2 Chargers by 2 on a last minute TD.
Chiefs lose by a point to the now 2-1 Lions

Dolphins underwhelmingly take care of a mediocre (at best) Patriots team.
Chiefs underwhelmingly take care of a mediocre Jags team.

Dolphins demolish the Broncos.
Chiefs demolish the Bears.

The Dolphins were far more in sync on offense in week 1, but their defense also looked terrible. Chiefs defense has of course been a major strength.

It's hard to ignore 70 points of course, even if the Chiefs probably put up a couple more TDs yesterday if Mahomes stays in... not that those games tell us anything about anything.

If we're talking an ESPN attention grabbing power ranking of the feels right this very moment... sure, give it to the Phins this week. They clearly wanted that prize.

I mean yeah if I'm being objective 70 points (and the dolphins were trying to give denver a break by just running and not kicking a field goal when they could have scored more) puts them over the chiefs in week 3. but hey it's week 3

RaidersOftheCellar 09-25-2023 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17128827)
I think the Chiefs are going to be the best team in the AFC by the end of the season unless the Bengals figure themselves out, but at this point, in Week 3, you have to conclude the Dolphins are probably the #1 team in the AFC.

You can say they've had the best start, but I don't think anyone needs to concede that they're the best team right now. Best offense? Probably. KC's defense has been substantially better though.

Miami squeaked by a flailing Chargers team despite winning the TO battle 2-0. Then squeaked by a weak Patriots team in week 2. Demolishing Denver shouldn't earn them the benefit of the doubt over the champs, any more than demolishing the Bears would earn KC the benefit of the doubt if the roles were reversed.

Direckshun 09-25-2023 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17128843)
I dunno....

Dolphins beat the now 1-2 Chargers by 2 on a last minute TD.
Chiefs lose by a point to the now 2-1 Lions

Dolphins underwhelmingly take care of a mediocre (at best) Patriots team.
Chiefs underwhelmingly take care of a mediocre Jags team.

Dolphins demolish the Broncos.
Chiefs demolish the Bears.

The Dolphins were far more in sync on offense in week 1, but their defense also looked terrible. Chiefs defense has of course been a major strength.

It's hard to ignore 70 points of course, even if the Chiefs probably put up a couple more TDs yesterday if Mahomes stays in... not that those games tell us anything about anything.

If we're talking an ESPN attention grabbing power ranking of the feels right this very moment... sure, give it to the Phins this week. They clearly wanted that prize.

All fair.

Two things are true: that Dolphins defense is really, really talented, but also, I love Andy Reid against a Vic Fangio defense. Few people can navigate Fangio's system defense better. I'd bet on the Chiefs to drop 30 on them.

The problem of course is that Dolphins offense. It is literally without weakness so long as Tua is upright.

The Chiefs defense, and I can't believe I am saying this out loud, looks like a Top 5 unit in the NFL right now and Spags is on a heater. So I'll be fascinated by what they do to slow them down.

Right now, it's shaping up to be the best game of the season.

TEX 09-25-2023 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17128858)
All fair.

Two things are true: that Dolphins defense is really, really talented, but also, I love Andy Reid against a Vic Fangio defense. Few people can navigate Fangio's system defense better. I'd bet on the Chiefs to drop 30 on them.

The problem of course is that Dolphins offense. It is literally without weakness so long as Tua is upright.

The Chiefs defense, and I can't believe I am saying this out loud, looks like a Top 5 unit in the NFL right now and Spags is on a heater. So I'll be fascinated by what they do to slow them down.

Right now, it's shaping up to be the best game of the season.

They'll pressure Tua.

notorious 09-25-2023 09:37 AM

"Chiefs defense carried Mahomes to this Superbowl title"

Say it out loud, because you are going to hear it a lot mid-February, even if it's not 100% accurate.

Sassy Squatch 09-25-2023 09:38 AM

Yeah, Dolphins drawing us after we have Omenihu back sucks for them.

Coochie liquor 09-25-2023 10:18 AM

Mike Williams officially out for the season.

duncan_idaho 09-25-2023 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17128858)
All fair.

Two things are true: that Dolphins defense is really, really talented, but also, I love Andy Reid against a Vic Fangio defense. Few people can navigate Fangio's system defense better. I'd bet on the Chiefs to drop 30 on them.

The problem of course is that Dolphins offense. It is literally without weakness so long as Tua is upright.

The Chiefs defense, and I can't believe I am saying this out loud, looks like a Top 5 unit in the NFL right now and Spags is on a heater. So I'll be fascinated by what they do to slow them down.

Right now, it's shaping up to be the best game of the season.

Re: the Dolphins, the only things I see is that the offensive line is not really special. They scheme well and get the ball out quick, but a good DL/pressure group could give them some trouble. The Chiefs seem to have that this year.

philfree 09-25-2023 10:35 AM

Tyreek says he's got something for us when we play at Arrowhead this year. I sure hope he does his own itinerary and flight!

DRM08 09-25-2023 10:42 AM

Chargers got lucky as hell yesterday, with two of the Toney bobble ball plays in their favor to end the game. Herbert got a TD instead of an INT and Cousins got an INT instead of a TD on those plays. Chargers should be 0-3 right now.

RunKC 09-25-2023 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17129028)
Chargers got lucky as hell yesterday, with two of the Toney bobble ball plays in their favor to end the game. Herbert got a TD instead of an INT and Cousins got an INT instead of a TD on those plays. Chargers should be 0-3 right now.

Not really. Mike Williams is out for the season. They may have won that game but it came with a cost

mabbott 09-25-2023 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17128867)
"Chiefs defense carried Mahomes to this Superbowl title"

Say it out loud, because you are going to here in a lot mid-February, even if it's not 100% accurate.

Personally, I am all for that! Mahomes not having to go hero to win will be epic! When defense balls out, the offense doesn't have as much pressure.

Further, who cares who carries, the team wins is what matters!

Mecca 09-25-2023 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17129036)
Not really. Mike Williams is out for the season. They may have won that game but it came with a cost

Which then leads to the question is it Johnston or Palmer as the 2 because so far Johnston has looked pretty shitty.

philfree 09-25-2023 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17129028)
Chargers got lucky as hell yesterday, with two of the Toney bobble ball plays in their favor to end the game. Herbert got a TD instead of an INT and Cousins got an INT instead of a TD on those plays. Chargers should be 0-3 right now.

They lucked out and got the win but the HC should still be fired. He won't be and he'll cost them a game or two with his stupidity so I'm good.

DRM08 09-25-2023 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17128867)
"Chiefs defense carried Mahomes to this Superbowl title"

Say it out loud, because you are going to hear it a lot mid-February, even if it's not 100% accurate.

I would love to see it. Mahomes has had very shaky defenses his entire career, including multiple playoff losses in high school where he scored 50 points. It would be epic if Spags and his guys can do an elite job this season. But we will see. There is a lot of firepower in Miami, Buffalo, Cincy, Philly, & San Francisco.

duncan_idaho 09-25-2023 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17129036)
Not really. Mike Williams is out for the season. They may have won that game but it came with a cost

I had missed that. I figured it was his usual lower leg injury that costs him six games before he comes back for 2 and reinjures it but not before he racks up 100 yards against KC.

philfree 09-25-2023 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17129109)
I had missed that. I figured it was his usual lower leg injury that costs him six games before he comes back for 2 and reinjures it but not before he racks up 100 yards against KC.

He's out for the season.

notorious 09-25-2023 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mabbott (Post 17129043)
Personally, I am all for that! Mahomes not having to go hero to win will be epic! When defense balls out, the offense doesn't have as much pressure.

Further, who cares who carries, the team wins is what matters!

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17129081)
I would love to see it. Mahomes has had very shaky defenses his entire career, including multiple playoff losses in high school where he scored 50 points. It would be epic if Spags and his guys can do an elite job this season. But we will see. There is a lot of firepower in Miami, Buffalo, Cincy, Philly, & San Francisco.


You had to quote the worst written sentence I've ever posted damnit.

"going to here in a lot" :facepalm: LMAO

carcosa 09-25-2023 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17128747)
Chiefs owned the division with average or bad defenses.

Chiefs are elite on defense now. It’s over.

KC will quite literally never lose again tbh

notorious 09-25-2023 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 17129173)
KC will quite literally never lose again tbh

If they do it was fixed!

DRM08 09-25-2023 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17129160)
You had to quote the worst written sentence I've ever posted damnit.

"going to here in a lot" :facepalm: LMAO

Fixed it in my post if it makes you feel better, haha

carcosa 09-25-2023 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17129177)
If they do it was fixed!

I know that's right!!

Direckshun 09-25-2023 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17128982)
Re: the Dolphins, the only things I see is that the offensive line is not really special. They scheme well and get the ball out quick, but a good DL/pressure group could give them some trouble. The Chiefs seem to have that this year.

I can't believe the pressure we're seeing from the DL. Their play against the run has been so fundamentally sound as well.

It's incredible what the DL is doing. I expected the linebackers to ball out, and the secondary looks as amazing as we hoped it would.

But the DL really, really looked problematic to me to start the season. I worried they'd struggle to apply consistent pressure and that you could roll them over in the run game.

And yet, we've applied constant pressure, lodged 7 sacks in the two Jones games, and nobody's run effectively on us.

Veach, Spags, and Cullen all deserve heaping amounts of credit for what they're doing at that position. I seriously cannot believe how good they are at the start of the season.

BWillie 09-25-2023 12:12 PM

State of the AFC West? They dead.

smithandrew051 09-25-2023 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 17129173)
KC will quite literally never lose again tbh

If not for the refs, Chiefs would be undefeated all time imho

smithandrew051 09-25-2023 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 17129124)
He's out for the season.

Yup. Just saw that.

He always had big games against us.

notorious 09-25-2023 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17129185)
Fixed it in my post if it makes you feel better, haha

Thanks brah!

LagunaSWana 09-25-2023 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17129261)
I can't believe the pressure we're seeing from the DL. Their play against the run has been so fundamentally sound as well.

It's incredible what the DL is doing. I expected the linebackers to ball out, and the secondary looks as amazing as we hoped it would.

But the DL really, really looked problematic to me to start the season. I worried they'd struggle to apply consistent pressure and that you could roll them over in the run game.

And yet, we've applied constant pressure, lodged 7 sacks in the two Jones games, and nobody's run effectively on us.

Veach, Spags, and Cullen all deserve heaping amounts of credit for what they're doing at that position. I seriously cannot believe how good they are at the start of the season.

And then we get Omenihu back in week 7. :rockon:

duncan_idaho 09-25-2023 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17129261)
I can't believe the pressure we're seeing from the DL. Their play against the run has been so fundamentally sound as well.

It's incredible what the DL is doing. I expected the linebackers to ball out, and the secondary looks as amazing as we hoped it would.

But the DL really, really looked problematic to me to start the season. I worried they'd struggle to apply consistent pressure and that you could roll them over in the run game.

And yet, we've applied constant pressure, lodged 7 sacks in the two Jones games, and nobody's run effectively on us.

Veach, Spags, and Cullen all deserve heaping amounts of credit for what they're doing at that position. I seriously cannot believe how good they are at the start of the season.

Agree.

Also, re: the Dolphins, I still question Tagavailoa's arm strength. I didn't watch all of the game yesterday (yet, but I will, to relish the beatdown), but everything I've seen him do so far this year is a short throw or an intermediate/deeper throw between the hashes.

I think Spagnuolo will have some ideas ready for how to deal with that, and play some games to compact that part of the field. I think we'll see a decent amount of doubling on Hill and Waddle and daring the Dolphins to win consistently with Cracraft and secondary weapons.

|Zach| 09-25-2023 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17129261)
I can't believe the pressure we're seeing from the DL. Their play against the run has been so fundamentally sound as well.

It's incredible what the DL is doing. I expected the linebackers to ball out, and the secondary looks as amazing as we hoped it would.

But the DL really, really looked problematic to me to start the season. I worried they'd struggle to apply consistent pressure and that you could roll them over in the run game.

And yet, we've applied constant pressure, lodged 7 sacks in the two Jones games, and nobody's run effectively on us.

Veach, Spags, and Cullen all deserve heaping amounts of credit for what they're doing at that position. I seriously cannot believe how good they are at the start of the season.

Completely agree.

Why Not? 09-25-2023 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by frozenchief (Post 17128767)
Buffalo looks like they may be legit and have gotten over the 13-second game hangover.

Miami looks really good but Tua has always been susceptible to injuries. Posting 70 was undoubtedly impressive, even against Denver but time will show how much of that was Miami and how much was Denver.

Otherwise?

Baltimore was supposed to have a good year but they've shown some definite cracks.

Cincy has not looked good so far, in part b/c of Burrow's injury. We will learn more tonight but they don't look like the same team from the last couple of years.

Pittsburgh looks solid but not like a contender.

Jets chances went out the window with Rodgers.

Jacksonville - beat by Houston?

Chargers - injuries and poor play calls are going to haunt them. I think Minnesota lost that game more than Chargers won.

Really surprised at how this year has turned out so far. It's admittedly a long season but some of these teams have put themselves into holes early.


I agree with most of your post but let's go back to your first sentence. Buffalo over the 13 second game hangover because they pasted the lowly Raiders and almost as bad Commanders?


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