Jets trading for Cousins?
 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">JUST IN: Sources close to the New York Jets have told <a href="https://twitter.com/PardonMyTake?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PardonMyTake</a> that the team is interested in exploring a trade for Minnesota Vikings QB Kirk Cousins.</p>&mdash; Jake Marsh (@PMTsportsbiz) <a href="https://twitter.com/PMTsportsbiz/status/1706330380133892276?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Was suggesting this a week ago.

This makes WAY too much sense. And Wilson simply cannot get the job done there.

They better do something PDQ

They certainly better be attempting to trade for him as it's a lost season with Zach Wilson.

They just won't have a 2nd this next year and are you that desperate that you'd give up a 1st for one season of Cousins? And would the Vikings trade him at this point in the season for a 3rd? I doubt it.

Maybe we were wrong. Maybe it makes too much sense not to happen.

They CAN'T trade their first or second. Still wrapped up in the conditional trade for Rodgers.

Yes and why would the vVikings trade him for that bad of a return?

It's a one year rental, so I don't think they're getting more than a 3rd.

For the Vikings, it's less about the return, and more about tanking for a QB to pair with their great trio of weapons.

Because they're 0-3 with a legitimate chance at one of the QBs, but Cousins is likely going to win them too many games for it to matter.

Cousins presents the Alex Smith dilemma.

Good enough to tease you. Not good enough to win it all.

Good enough to keep you drafting late, so you can’t easily grab the obvious replacement.

Not every franchise is as fortunate as us to get the best at 10.

Why would the Vikings trade their starting QB in the middle of the season? Is there any precedent in league history for that? Come on.

If you told me it's the trade deadline and he goes for a 3rd, sure.

But they can easily just hold onto him for another several weeks and the pressure grows on the Jets because we know they need to do something. And losing more games just gets them closer and closer to a lost season.

It's a helluva staring match.

I know he's not that good and older - but have they not even tried contacting Matt Ryan? Seems a little surprising. If they did; I missed it.

Because they’re 0-3 even with him playing pretty well? At some point you have to realize that you aren’t going to win this year.

I sincerely doubt he goes for just a third.

They reportedly tried to get Chad Henne and he declined. So I don't see how they haven't thought about/explored options like Ryan, Rivers, etc.

I think Cousins or Brissett would fit really well there.

Sure, they can do that, but they'll likely win too many games in between now and then for it to be worth it.

If you're going to do it, now is the best time. They trade Cousins at 0-3, then the #1 overall pick is a legitimate possibility, and you're probably looking at Maye at worst.

As awesome as it sounds, I can't see this happening.

What's the going rate for a 14 game rental at QB?

They should trade us Justin Jefferson while they're at it.

Both Ryan and Wentz reached out to the Jets, and got turned down... but they just might change their tune if they can't get Cousins or whoever

Trade Gabbert for Garrett Wilson!!!!!

The trade makes a lot of sense.

Although some wild cards… what if rodgers is able to come back and genuinely wants to?

Also… who’s going to protect him? Feel like they should kick the tires on a more mobile option like jacoby brissett who you can pick up for way less draft capital. That defense is good enough that adequate will do.

For a middle of the road QB, there has sure been a lot of drama with Cousins throughout his career.

Don't think there is one. Can't imagine trying to sell it to Vikings fans if they don't get a 1st, though. Unless you just come right out and say you are openly gunning for Caleb Williams.

When the Jets seem to be convinced it's the difference between a shot at the playoffs and a completely lost season? More than a third.

You think you have to sell to Vikings fans that you're going to get rid of Cousins to tank for one of the elite QB prospects?

I guess Vikings fans could be that reeruned.

I'd be absolutely banging the table for the Chiefs to make this move if it were us.

And clear, what, $8 million or so of rollover to help with a Jefferson extension?

Actually he and Carson wentz reached out to the jets.

I’d have to think their OL is a big issue there. But then, I don’t know why they’d entertain cousins either if that’s the case.

That's fair. It's a tough Pill to swallow for that fan base though to give up at this stage and that's why I don't think they're doing it imminently. They were 11-0 in one-score games last year and are 0-3 in the same this year. It's not like they're bereft of talent.

Let's hope if the trade happens it's a week from now so we get to face Zach Wilson AND Nick Mullens.

Bet you whatever that the twerp on this "pardon my take" podcast's "sources close to the Jets" do not exist.

Then you tell the Vikings to go **** themselves and enjoy ruining their 0-3 start and a chance at an elite QB prospect :shrug:

I think this trade is even more important for the Vikings future than the Jets.

Can teams have two conditional trades rolling the same time?

There are plenty of ways to ensure the tank if they choose to do it. Cousins doesn't go for a third unless it's at the deadline IMO

Oh, I don't think this actually happens, and I don't think the Vikings have the balls to do what it takes.

I don't think he does either, just saying, I would absolutely want the Vikings to pull the trigger today for a 3rd if they were my team.

I mean, how can anyone hate the Alex smith era. Or browns fans with the baker mayfield era. Probably the lions with the Goff era.

These teams are so bad that just making the playoffs is a huge victory. They’ve gotta start there because they’ll continue to see talented WRs check out.

Here's the problem - they're a week too late.

They're playing KC - do they really think Cousins can come in, say Wednesday, and get involved enough in the offense to meaningfully change that outcome?

At 1-3, they're done. They're much better with Cousins than Wilson but not THAT much better.

As a cheap flyer - sure, give it a shot. Take a chance and see if maybe he can get you to 9-4 down the stretch to settle in at 10-7 and get that last Wild Card spot.

But if the Vikings are going to try to get a 1st or even a 2nd rounder for him? Pft - it doesn't improve your odds by THAT much.

They needed to beat the Patriots this week. They gambled, and lost, on Wilson's ability to do so. But Cousins, even on a limited install, could've won them that game pretty easily.

It honestly may just be too late to matter now.

I actually think they do. It makes too much sense for them. Only because they know a justin jefferson mega deal is looming.

Nah. Bench him since he's involved in active trade negotiations and go from there. The Jets will almost assuredly cave for a better package.

Perhaps. This is all just hypotheticals anyway, doubt there's actually any legitimacy to that rumor.

The Vikings were going to move from Cousins after this year anyway so it's not the worst idea this way they can receive something for him.

Of course the Jets would be dumb enough to give up a 1st.

How is that even a question??

The Jets would have to pull that trigger in the next couple of weeks otherwise the Jets season might be all but finished. The other question is would Cousins waive his no trade clause?

Yea, he's gone either way.

If you get a 3rd and it allows you to get one of the elite QB prospects, that's how to turn an L (0-3) to a huge W.

Seems like the Jets should have found a better backup QB in the first place. Rodgers already had a long history of injuries. Their entire season was riding on his health, which is crazy.

A few teams can make these things work. Sorry you are the Jets

Trade for him next Monday so we can play against Wilson 2 weeks in a row.

Uh...they used the 2nd overall pick on Wilson and Rodgers hasn't missed a game since 2017.

To be honest it's probably the best thing they could do for the franchise. They're stuck in purgatory atm. I'd pull the trigger if I could get a decent draft capital back in the return.

I can't imagine how much of a ****ing **** Wilson is. I've seen plenty of incredibly bad QBs that teammates refuse to give up on or badmouth. The entire team seems to legitimately despise him from what I've seen.

Well he went to BYU...

When I first read this I thought, "Why is he posting about Russell Wilson in the Jets thread?" Just FYI you can probably save some time by copy and pasting into one of the Bronco fail threads cause it works for both.

Teammates don't despise Russell Wilson. They probably find him tiresome and cringey, yes, but that's different than the outright visceral hatred Zach Wilson seems to have brought in himself.

And they knew Wilson was not good based on his performance on the field in 2 previous seasons. They would not have made the move for Rodgers if Wilson was developing properly as a #2 overall pick with a ton of playing time in 2021 and 2022.

If the Vikings let him walk this offseason, they'll get a 3rd comp pick a year out. Trading him for a 3rd just to advance the draft pick by a year has to be shit value.

You can't just cut Wilson his entire contract is basically guaranteed. On top of that who were they going to get as a backup...the Dolphins think they improved their backup QB by signing Mike White...who was the Jets backup they didn't win with last year...

Their ceiling with Cousins is probably one and done in the playoffs.

Better than with Zach Wilson obviously, but not a legit Super Bowl contender.

I didn’t say they needed to cut Wilson. Make him the 3rd stringer, lol

The backup QB slots are slim pickins man...we have Blaine Gabbert...

POST-6/1 TRADE
2023 Dead Cap: $10,250,000
2024 Dead Cap: $28,500,000
2023 Cap Savings: $10,000,000

Spotrac on Cousins deal

At the end...if they do not sign FAs. Trade locks that in.

I would guess that Cousins is getting paid pretty well. Would the Jets have to trade someone that’s making near the same money to stay under the cap?

They'd have to sign him to a new deal to change his money.

The entire purpose of trading Cousins now is to take advantage of an 0-3 start and tank for a QB.

If you can turn being 0-3 into drafting Caleb Williams when you have Jefferson and Addison that is a gigantic win.

No part of this makes any sense, Claynus just saw some BS and fell for it

The only reason I could see them not trading Cousins away is because it might affect Jefferson and his contract negotiations moving forward.

I doubt he would give a **** if they are going to make him the highest paid WR which is what they'll have to do...

Matter of fact moving to a rookie QB deal makes him getting paid easier.

$10 million base salary; the rest of his money was/is in bonuses that are going to accelerate to the Vikings cap (much of it has already been paid and is stuck into void years)

I think there are ways to get this done that the Jets can squeeze under the cap. Especially if Wilson goes the other way in the deal.

If this were to happen Peyton Manning needs to make the immediate call to add Cousins to Season 2 of Netflix Quarterback.

They would probably pay Brady $50 million to come play for 14 games. They are a dumpster fire since 1969

Regardless of if they trade Cousins or not they're going to have to purposefully tank to outmaneuver teams like the Bears and Broncos. Those rosters are significantly worse than the Vikings even sans Cousins.

Agreed, they would need to make it a fire sale. In fact they have the Panthers next week so they probably better also trade or cut any/all back-up QBs on the team.

Jets OL is not good. Brady is smart enough to stay away from that situation.

This was a bit. They're trolling.

You're going to have a hard time paying Jefferson AND a QB anyway.

Using Sportrac roster management tool, which btw is pretty neat, this works easily for both sides financially anyway.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tools/ro...ork-jets/2023/

They are really in a hurry to try and get bounced wild card weekend eh?

League circles say the trade is contingent on Kirk Cousins getting every Tuesday and Wednesday off so he can go to Barnes and Noble and act like he's reading books.