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Sassy Squatch 10-18-2023 06:20 PM

Caleb Williams asking for partial ownership from team that drafts him
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Report: USC Caleb Williams wants partial ownership from the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFL</a> team that will select him in the 2024 Draft, per <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ProFootballTalk</a> <br><br>PFT reported in July that Caleb&#39;s representatives had been making it known that Williams wants partial ownership of the team that selects him in… <a href="https://t.co/5lLVEMEbOi">pic.twitter.com/5lLVEMEbOi</a></p>&mdash; Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1714443391046422556?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 18, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BlackHelicopters 10-18-2023 06:21 PM

Good luck with that.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-18-2023 06:21 PM

JFC this is getting ridiculous

DJ's left nut 10-18-2023 06:22 PM

Or - and hear me out - you could **** off.

Jewish Rabbi 10-18-2023 06:23 PM

Yeah, and Skyy God is asking people to forget about Belize.

dlphg9 10-18-2023 06:23 PM

Lol this kid is really into himself. I could easily see him flaming out and being a bust. Dipshit.

dlphg9 10-18-2023 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 17176413)
Yeah, and Skyy God is asking people to forget about Belize.

And Anthony Richardson is gonna be a problem before long.

Red Dawg 10-18-2023 06:26 PM

He is red flagging himself as a diva douche. Any owner that did that for a rookie QB would get destroyed by the other owners. They would make sure the team got screwed in every way.

BlackHelicopters 10-18-2023 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17176419)
And Anthony Richardson is gonna be a problem before long.

Heh.

ToxSocks 10-18-2023 06:26 PM

Meh.

Dov Kleiman.

Sassy Squatch 10-18-2023 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 17176425)
Meh.

Dov Kleiman.

Ain't just him. Just the most comprehensive tweet about it.

DJ's left nut 10-18-2023 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 17176421)
He is red flagging himself as a diva douche. Any owner that did that for a rookie QB would get destroyed by the other owners. They would make sure the team got screwed in every way.

It's a literal impossibility with the cap.

How do you even assign a value to it? The ownership interest is of theoretically unlimited value. And of perpetual duration.

You can't calculate that in the salary cap at all.

It's just a functionally reeruned ask.

staylor26 10-18-2023 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 17176425)
Meh.

Dov Kleiman.

To be fair, the source is PFT.

staylor26 10-18-2023 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17176415)
Lol this kid is really into himself. I could easily see him flaming out and being a bust. Dipshit.

I will say this, guys that are THAT arrogant coming out usually flame out.

BlackHelicopters 10-18-2023 06:32 PM

Only saw the ND game. Don’t get what the big deal is.

Sofa King 10-18-2023 06:32 PM

Are the Katz brothers his agent? What an idiot.

MahomesMagic 10-18-2023 06:34 PM

Good thing Browns got Watson or they might be a candidate to oblige.

LoneWolf 10-18-2023 06:34 PM

This kid is going to end up being this generations Ryan Leaf.

BWillie 10-18-2023 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17176407)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Report: USC Caleb Williams wants partial ownership from the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFL</a> team that will select him in the 2024 Draft, per <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ProFootballTalk</a> <br><br>PFT reported in July that Caleb&#39;s representatives had been making it known that Williams wants partial ownership of the team that selects him in… <a href="https://t.co/5lLVEMEbOi">pic.twitter.com/5lLVEMEbOi</a></p>&mdash; Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1714443391046422556?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 18, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I think I already hate this guy

Reerun_KC 10-18-2023 06:35 PM

No owner would agree to that and wouldn’t it have to be approved by the other owners and the NFL? Which means. Nope.

Megatron96 10-18-2023 06:36 PM

Lol, this is "your brains on drugs."

Dipstick.

dannybcaitlyn 10-18-2023 06:37 PM

Silver spoon in the mouth prick. I hope he drops in value.

Pablo 10-18-2023 06:37 PM

I want this douche to fail no matter where he ends up now

Shiver Me Timbers 10-18-2023 06:38 PM

"Gotz me some NIL now I wantz me some NfL"

notorious 10-18-2023 06:42 PM

Boy, is he going to go down hard. LMAO

notorious 10-18-2023 06:44 PM

The comments are on fire!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If he goes to the Broncos he will have to negotiate with Patrick Mahomes</p>&mdash; Kansas City Today (@KC__Today) <a href="https://twitter.com/KC__Today/status/1714452512143548759?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 18, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ROFL

Skyy God 10-18-2023 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 17176413)
Yeah, and Skyy God is asking people to forget about Belize.

Do I need to get a TRO, brah??

PHOG 10-18-2023 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17176430)
To be fair, the source is PFT.

It's about time these players get what they're worth./Whorio Florio

TwistedChief 10-18-2023 06:51 PM

I don’t understand how something like that would even be permissible.

Isn’t that just straight up circumventing the salary cap?

Like why doesn’t he get married and demand that his wife be put on staff at 10mm/yr as an assistant QBs coach?

Pepe Silvia 10-18-2023 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 17176413)
Yeah, and Skyy God is asking people to forget about Belize.

Forgotten.



J/K


Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17176415)
Lol this kid is really into himself. I could easily see him flaming out and being a bust. Dipshit.

Being the spokesman for Wendy’s will have that effect.

|Zach| 10-18-2023 06:53 PM

Crazy

Vladimir_Kyrilytch 10-18-2023 06:54 PM

USC living up to its nickname "University of Spoiled Children". Good grief. Hope this guy goes undrafted.

RealSNR 10-18-2023 06:59 PM

Lol hope the Donks get him now.

Arrogant prick head coach and spoiled brat QB. Match made in heaven.

Rain Man 10-18-2023 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17176473)
I don’t understand how something like that would even be permissible.

Isn’t that just straight up circumventing the salary cap?

Like why doesn’t he get married and demand that his wife be put on staff at 10mm/yr as an assistant QBs coach?

That was my initial thought. I guess you could give someone ownership in lieu of salary, but that would be a miniscule share even if they worked for minimum wage.

The more I think about it, you'd be handcuffing yourself as well, because it would be very problematic to go to another team during your career. Could they trade you? Could you leave in free agency? Could you play for a different team against your ownership interest? Could you go to another team and then participate in salary negotiations for players on your original team?

I don't think Mr. Williams is thinking this through.

Buehler445 10-18-2023 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17176429)
It's a literal impossibility with the cap.

How do you even assign a value to it? The ownership interest is of theoretically unlimited value. And of perpetual duration.

You can't calculate that in the salary cap at all.

It's just a functionally reeruned ask.

Nah, accountants exist for a reason.

Typically equity acquisitions are Cash in exchange for shares/equity percentage.

CBA dictates for rookies there is a scale and game checks. So each game, they withhold his check and exchange it on the balance sheet for equity (surely these are all corporations so we'll go with shares).

So each check, caleb gets some shares, but no cash. So after his rookie contract, he 41M of equity in whatever shit franchise is out there, let's say the Faid - they're giving shit away. Franchise is worth 6.2 Billion.

Congrats, Caleb, you get .66% of the Faid. Oh, and 5 years of tax liability on 41M. Oh, and by the way, Faid are cash poor so there won't be any dividends.

Enjoy, bitch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17176431)
I will say this, guys that are THAT arrogant coming out usually flame out.

I believe I was early on this when he said "there's nothing he (Mahomes) can do that I can't."

Buehler445 10-18-2023 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17176473)
I don’t understand how something like that would even be permissible.

Isn’t that just straight up circumventing the salary cap?

Like why doesn’t he get married and demand that his wife be put on staff at 10mm/yr as an assistant QBs coach?

I'd think it would have to be a cash distribution per the CBA. Then they'd have to exchange that for the equity shares.

DrunkBassGuitar 10-18-2023 07:07 PM

Now I hope he goes to the broncos any team that takes him is going to be a shit show

kjwood75nro 10-18-2023 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 17176490)
Nah, accountants exist for a reason.



Typically equity acquisitions are Cash in exchange for shares/equity percentage.



CBA dictates for rookies there is a scale and game checks. So each game, they withhold his check and exchange it on the balance sheet for equity (surely these are all corporations so we'll go with shares).



So each check, caleb gets some shares, but no cash. So after his rookie contract, he 41M of equity in whatever shit franchise is out there, let's say the Faid - they're giving shit away. Franchise is worth 6.2 Billion.



Congrats, Caleb, you get .66% of the Faid. Oh, and 5 years of tax liability on 41M. Oh, and by the way, Faid are cash poor so there won't be any dividends.



Enjoy, bitch.







I believe I was early on this when he said "there's nothing he (Mahomes) can do that I can't."

I get what you're saying, but did Caleb even consider current-day Mahomes making that kind of demand?

notorious 10-18-2023 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 17176490)
Nah, accountants exist for a reason.

Typically equity acquisitions are Cash in exchange for shares/equity percentage.

CBA dictates for rookies there is a scale and game checks. So each game, they withhold his check and exchange it on the balance sheet for equity (surely these are all corporations so we'll go with shares).

So each check, caleb gets some shares, but no cash. So after his rookie contract, he 41M of equity in whatever shit franchise is out there, let's say the Faid - they're giving shit away. Franchise is worth 6.2 Billion.

Congrats, Caleb, you get .66% of the Faid. Oh, and 5 years of tax liability on 41M. Oh, and by the way, Faid are cash poor so there won't be any dividends.

Enjoy, bitch.



I believe I was early on this when he said "there's nothing he (Mahomes) can do that I can't."


Bueh is a straight-up gangsta when it's comes to dropping numbers on fools.

The Franchise 10-18-2023 07:22 PM

I guess I’ll continue rooting for this idiots downfall.

Couch-Potato 10-18-2023 07:23 PM

Feels like this kid's setting himself up to fail.

RealSNR 10-18-2023 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 17176490)
I believe I was early on this when he said "there's nothing he (Mahomes) can do that I can't."

I cam think of a couple things, Caleb.

Like wait your goddamn turn until you earn generational wealth.

Or keep your ****ing mouth shut.

ChiefsFanatic 10-18-2023 07:26 PM

Does this delusional tool (yeah, I just decided I can't stand him, assuming there is any truth to this) also play baseball?

Or, does he even really want to play in the NFL? Maybe he believes he can turn his NIL money into a lot more money, without having to go to a bad team, suffer lots of losing, and get beat up before washing out of the NFL because he couldn't live up to the Patrick Mahomes comparisons?

St. Patty's Fire 10-18-2023 07:28 PM

bro who does this guy think he is LMAO

RealSNR 10-18-2023 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 17176533)
Does this delusional tool (yeah, I just decided I can't stand him, assuming there is any truth to this) also play baseball?

Or, does he even really want to play in the NFL? Maybe he believes he can turn his NIL money into a lot more money, without having to go to a bad team, suffer lots of losing, and get beat up before washing out of the NFL because he couldn't live up to the Patrick Mahomes comparisons?

Uh-oh. If he does, let's see him in an interview

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Spott 10-18-2023 07:33 PM

USC QB’s never fail to disappoint.

Bwana 10-18-2023 07:35 PM

ROFLWhat a douche.

Titty Meat 10-18-2023 07:38 PM

Aww he's going to leave before the B1G defenses expose him

TribalElder 10-18-2023 07:49 PM

kid too full of himself

probably get blown up in the nfl

Why Not? 10-18-2023 07:52 PM

I’d be shocked if this is real. No way he’s this much of a dill bag.

MahomesMagic 10-18-2023 08:01 PM

[QUOTE=Why Not?;17176595]I’d be shocked if this is real. No way he’s this much of a dill bag.[/QUOTE<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Son, get in the reality world.&quot; Caleb Williams thinks he deserves an ownership stake in an NFL team, Warren Sapp thinks he&#39;s wrong. <a href="https://t.co/4XD90KvppB">pic.twitter.com/4XD90KvppB</a></p>&mdash; Jason Whitlock (@WhitlockJason) <a href="https://twitter.com/WhitlockJason/status/1714808582049353805?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 19, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Shiver Me Timbers 10-18-2023 08:03 PM

NIL is a pandoras box. This is just the beginning. wait until son of Prime out here in Colorado starts his demands

Titty Meat 10-18-2023 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiver Me Timbers (Post 17176616)
NIL is a pandoras box. This is just the beginning. wait until son of Prime out here in Colorado starts his demands

I doubt the arena league is going to pay that much

mr. tegu 10-18-2023 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17176462)
The comments are on fire!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If he goes to the Broncos he will have to negotiate with Patrick Mahomes</p>— Kansas City Today (@KC__Today) <a href="https://twitter.com/KC__Today/status/1714452512143548759?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 18, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ROFL


LMAO

Shiver Me Timbers 10-18-2023 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17176625)
I doubt the arena league is going to pay that much

Good one!

Bump 10-18-2023 08:48 PM

I don't blame him for trying I guess

FloridaMan88 10-18-2023 08:49 PM

Interesting timing for his representatives to leak this news out after his epic fail embarrassment vs Notre Lame.

Why Not? 10-18-2023 08:50 PM

[QUOTE=MahomesMagic;17176614]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 17176595)
I’d be shocked if this is real. No way he’s this much of a dill bag.[/QUOTE<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Son, get in the reality world.&quot; Caleb Williams thinks he deserves an ownership stake in an NFL team, Warren Sapp thinks he&#39;s wrong. <a href="https://t.co/4XD90KvppB">pic.twitter.com/4XD90KvppB</a></p>&mdash; Jason Whitlock (@WhitlockJason) <a href="https://twitter.com/WhitlockJason/status/1714808582049353805?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 19, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Looks like he may be that big of a dill bag

Eureka 10-18-2023 08:53 PM

Maybe, he's getting it from soccer star Messi's deal. That is a whole other story though as that guy already has clout and is making that team in Miami more money then ever.


Quote:

Mas confirmed Messi's payment is supplemented by the guarantee that he will be part of the organization's ownership upon his retirement. He'll also get a piece of the profits from MLS's broadcasting deal with Apple TV and the team's kit sales from Adidas.Jul 3, 2023

trndobrd 10-18-2023 08:54 PM

How about get drafted by Carolina, get paid the number one overall cap number or go make $400,000 in the CFL?

Chief Pagan 10-18-2023 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17176407)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Report: USC Caleb Williams wants partial ownership from the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFL</a> team that will select him in the 2024 Draft, per <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ProFootballTalk</a> <br><br>PFT reported in July that Caleb&#39;s representatives had been making it known that Williams wants partial ownership of the team that selects him in… <a href="https://t.co/5lLVEMEbOi">pic.twitter.com/5lLVEMEbOi</a></p>&mdash; Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1714443391046422556?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 18, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

.

Can I get some whipped cream with that?

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...0IZK8&usqp=CAU

BWillie 10-18-2023 09:36 PM

Perfect example of having too much money, too much power while being too young and immature. I cannot even fathom how much bigger of an assclown I would be if I had millions when I was 20.

Pepe Silvia 10-18-2023 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17176692)
Perfect example of having too much money, too much power while being too young and immature. I cannot even fathom how much bigger of an assclown I would be if I had millions when I was 20.

I would have been arrested for sure.

Buehler445 10-18-2023 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17176692)
Perfect example of having too much money, too much power while being too young and immature. I cannot even fathom how much bigger of an assclown I would be if I had millions when I was 20.

Oh yeah, I'd have been dumb as ****.

But perhaps not that dumb. I never had that level of hubris in my 20s.

TribalElder 10-18-2023 10:47 PM

ROFL

Welcome to GreenBay douchebag

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WhawhaWhat 10-18-2023 10:55 PM

Dov Kleiman is basically Skip Bayless on Twitter/X. He's all about clickbait to drive engagement and impressions. He couldn't care less whether anything he posts is actually true.

That being said if you don't want to get drafted by the Bears or the Cardinals or one of the shitty teams then making ridiculous demands like this isn't a bad strategy.

Eleazar 10-18-2023 11:04 PM

This guy's middle name Lonzo?

BossChief 10-19-2023 01:20 AM

So…is he literally saying that without this agreement in place, he’s not going to declare? This would need to be on top of the slotted rookie deal.

Wow.

T-post Tom 10-19-2023 01:34 AM

Same reps as CJ?

ROYC75 10-19-2023 01:42 AM

I thought player/ownership was against NFL rules?

FlaChief58 10-19-2023 05:30 AM

If I'm an owner in need of a qb and were thinking of drafting him, I'm definitely having second thoughts after this.

Having confidence is one thing, being an arrogant dick before you've even been drafted is something else entirely.

Great Expectations 10-19-2023 05:53 AM

I’ve followed this Caleb for a while. This is likely his Dad making demands on his son. His dad Carl is the big issue with him. If Carl would stay out of it and let Caleb play there would be very little drama surrounding him.

Great Expectations 10-19-2023 06:01 AM

https://x.com/ryanyoungrivals/status...Lom5ggtmsSMGOg

This is his response when asked about a ND player running on to the field.

notorious 10-19-2023 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 17176808)
https://x.com/ryanyoungrivals/status...Lom5ggtmsSMGOg

This is his response when asked about a ND player running on to the field.

I'm shocked he doesn't speak in the 3rd person.

Maybe he's building up to it.

Rasputin 10-19-2023 06:34 AM

He has to talk to Patrick Mahomes II about that. He owns every team.

displacedinMN 10-19-2023 06:48 AM

No athlete will ever gain enough money playing sports to get a majority owner status.

Mahomes/Jeter/Shaq---nope. JayZ? Nope.

You have to be in business and be successful to do it.

Maybe this NIL shit went to his head and he is very entitled.


**** him. No one is going to do that.

chiefzilla1501 10-19-2023 06:50 AM

Let’s all remember and appreciate that Patrick mahomes was instructed by his agent to do minimal endorsements early in his career that might distract him. When he negotiated his contract he gave the chiefs room to build around him. It was only years later before he capitalized on endorsements and only recently where he’s building up his assets and getting a contract that pays his worth.

There’s so much more to mahomes than just his individual raw talent. I will always despise any comparison that doesn’t consider his character and leadership

BigRedChief 10-19-2023 06:57 AM

This has come up before. Forget the player. Maybe Mahomes speculation circa 2019?

I think I remember that its against the NFL rules to give a player a piece of ownership. And anything the team gives you, say a piece of one of their other businesses, it counts against the cap.

displacedinMN 10-19-2023 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17176854)
This has come up before. Forget the player. Maybe Mahomes speculation circa 2019?

I think I remember that its against the NFL rules to give a player a piece of ownership. And anything the team gives you, say a piece of one of their other businesses, it counts against the cap.

Vermeil wanted to give a kicker a bottle of win for winning a game, it would have counted against the cap.

BigRedChief 10-19-2023 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17176846)
Let’s all remember and appreciate that Patrick mahomes was instructed by his agent to do minimal endorsements early in his career that might distract him. When he negotiated his contract he gave the chiefs room to build around him. It was only years later before he capitalized on endorsements and only recently where he’s building up his assets and getting a contract that pays his worth.

There’s so much more to mahomes than just his individual raw talent. I will always despise any comparison that doesn’t consider his character and leadership

It would seem that he should be following the Mahomes model. Worked out pretty pretty good for him.:hmmm:


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