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BossChief 10-29-2023 05:06 PM

It’s time to trade for Hopkins.
 
**** Skyy Moore.

Go get Hopkins

Bump 10-29-2023 05:07 PM

gotta do something

Chief Roundup 10-29-2023 05:09 PM

That ain't happening. They would have to eat his entire bonus.

MIAdragon 10-29-2023 05:14 PM

Should have been done before the season started.

Bump 10-29-2023 05:15 PM

too bad we don't have a trade partner that may or may not be colluding like the Eagles have with the Titans. Nobody is gonna want to trade a good WR to the Chiefs, they know that's all we need to run it back

BWillie 10-29-2023 05:15 PM

I was told this is a Top 5 WR core in the league. Repeatedly tried to warn you guys. These guys are awful. Rice is ok but hes still developing. The rest of the guys get cut from some teams sans MVS who is a one trick pony.

BWillie 10-29-2023 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 17197519)
Should have been done before the season started.

Mmmmhmmmmm

Hammock Parties 10-29-2023 05:16 PM

good luck LMAO

ThyKingdomCome15 10-29-2023 05:16 PM

Trade for somebody... anybody.

Chiefspants 10-29-2023 05:16 PM

It’s too late. Titans looked too good today

Megatron96 10-29-2023 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17197542)
I was told this is a Top 5 WR core in the league. Repeatedly tried to warn you guys. These guys are awful. Rice is ok but hes still developing. The rest of the guys get cut from some teams sans MVS who is a one trick pony.



It's "corps."

Oh Snap 10-29-2023 05:16 PM

You turn the ball over 5 ****ing times I don't care if you have prime terrell owens, you aren't winning many games.

tk13 10-29-2023 05:16 PM

Tennessee is one game out of a playoff spot and they have some actual excitement for the first time in years because their young QB lit up. Can't imagine they'd make that kind of move without a serious overpay.

Wisconsin_Chief 10-29-2023 05:16 PM

They won’t do shit. They’ll trot these losers out there and horribly embarrass themselves once we get to the meat of the schedule starting next week.

-King- 10-29-2023 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 17197383)
That ain't happening. They would have to eat his entire bonus.

No they wouldn't. Some people have posted that we would have to pay 900k this year and an option next year for 14mil

Aka ....dirt cheap

MahomesMagic 10-29-2023 05:17 PM

We don't need WR's that catch the ball for TD's.

TLO 10-29-2023 05:17 PM

Hopkins isn't going to fix a team that commits this many turnovers. We shot ourselves in the dick.

Then the foot.

Then in the head.

Oh Snap 10-29-2023 05:17 PM

Should've resigned juju.

New World Order 10-29-2023 05:18 PM

If we weren’t on the verge of solidifying a dynasty, I would be patient.

But we’re right there, they should do something

Best22 10-29-2023 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17197600)
If we weren’t on the verge of solidifying a dynasty, I would be patient.

But we’re right there, they should do something

Just happy we won a SB with an expensive QB

Most teams don’t do that

New World Order 10-29-2023 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17197580)
Hopkins isn't going to fix a team that commits this many turnovers. We shot ourselves in the dick.

Then the foot.

Then in the head.

There’s no one that we can rely on to make key receptions outside of Kelce.

Last year it was JuJu. It doesn’t have to be a superstar, but they gotta do something

BWillie 10-29-2023 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 17197582)
Should've resigned juju.

Any avg WR helps this offense immensely. Any single one.

BWillie 10-29-2023 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17197580)
Hopkins isn't going to fix a team that commits this many turnovers. We shot ourselves in the dick.

Then the foot.

Then in the head.

Part of the reason we commit turnovers is because nobody is open. Mahomes has to hold onto the ball longer. He has to force the ball. Etc.

mr. tegu 10-29-2023 05:25 PM

Still not sure why we didn’t go after Ridley. Was he expensive or something?

MIAdragon 10-29-2023 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 17197582)
Should've resigned juju.

Lmfao. You and Hardman can get bent.

Titty Meat 10-29-2023 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 17197582)
Should've resigned juju.

LMAO

Gary Cooper 10-29-2023 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 17197383)
That ain't happening. They would have to eat his entire bonus.

I'm not gay and I'll eat his anus for another Super Bowl.

notorious 10-29-2023 05:33 PM

The Titans aren't going to trade him.

Wisconsin_Chief 10-29-2023 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17197723)
Still not sure why we didn’t go after Ridley. Was he expensive or something?

Nope, they got him for next to nothing.

They put all their eggs in the baskets of Moore and Toney and they have both failed miserably. There’s no coming back from it until next season when we’re literally starting from complete scratch at WR except for Rice.

arrowheadnation 10-29-2023 05:37 PM

If Veach is the gm god like we make him out to be, he’ll land both Hopkins and theilen, but as stingy as he is with draft picks, we’ll probably just roll with what we have.

Eleazar 10-29-2023 05:40 PM

Clearly we should not have done what we did at WR this off-season, but there’s no fixing it mid season. Gonna have to lie in the bed we made this year.

Chief Roundup 10-29-2023 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17197847)
There’s no coming back from it until next season when we’re literally starting from complete scratch at WR except for Rice.

MVS and Toney still have another year. They are not FA until 25. Moore will be an RFA in 26. But your point still stands.

Graystoke 10-29-2023 05:42 PM

We aren’t trading

Chief Pagan 10-29-2023 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 17197347)
gotta do something

We could always try posting angry rants on CP...


I mean it is something.

:D

Chief Roundup 10-29-2023 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 17197917)
Clearly we should not have done what we did at WR this off-season, but there’s no fixing it mid season. Gonna have to lie in the bed we made this year.

We were stuck because of Jones.
I believe we would be in a much different situation if it wasn't for Jones not wanting to sign a deal.

Mecca 10-29-2023 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17197542)
I was told this is a Top 5 WR core in the league. Repeatedly tried to warn you guys. These guys are awful. Rice is ok but hes still developing. The rest of the guys get cut from some teams sans MVS who is a one trick pony.

Who told you that?

manchambo 10-29-2023 05:45 PM

What will you offer me for a slightly used Jerry Jeudy?

-King- 10-29-2023 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 17197947)
We were stuck because of Jones.
I believe we would be in a much different situation if it wasn't for Jones not wanting to sign a deal.

What? How were we stuck because of him?

TEX 10-29-2023 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 17197917)
Clearly we should not have done what we did at WR this off-season, but there’s no fixing it mid season. Gonna have to lie in the bed we made this year.

Yep. We will not be fine.

Mecca 10-29-2023 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 17197933)
MVS and Toney still have another year. They are not FA until 25. Moore will be an RFA in 26. But your point still stands.

MVS is getting cut after this year.

Fishels 10-29-2023 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17197549)
Mmmmhmmmmm

But dude they just need time to develop

Wisconsin_Chief 10-29-2023 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 17197933)
MVS and Toney still have another year. They are not FA until 25. Moore will be an RFA in 26. But your point still stands.

If MVS and Toney are here and being expected to be anything more than backups next year, we’re in huge trouble. That’s the point.

We have two NFL caliber WRs on this roster in Rice and freaking Justin Watson. That’s it. We’re in trouble.

Megatron96 10-29-2023 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17197964)
If MVS and Toney are here and being expected to be anything more than backups next year, we’re in huge trouble. That’s the point.

We have two NFL caliber WRs on this roster in Rice and freaking Justin Watson. That’s it. We’re in trouble.



I like Justin but he's a WR5 at best on any other roster.

dannybcaitlyn 10-29-2023 05:48 PM

Every time we’ve won a superbowl we brought in a Ravens player mid year. I’m taking my shot on a former Ravens player on the 1-7 Cardinals. Hollywood Brown WR

lcarus 10-29-2023 05:49 PM

I knew Skyy was likely a bust. What really disappoints me is Toney. I figured he would contribute more than he has. 18 catches for 105 yards and 5 carries for -2 yards through 8 games. Woof.

At least Rice looks pretty good. Aside from that horrid drop today.

IowaHawkeyeChief 10-29-2023 05:50 PM

Dumb ****ing thread...

kccrow 10-29-2023 05:50 PM

If we make a trade it should be for Mooney. Speed and a 1k WR in Nagy's offense in Chicago.
I'll take any WR that can get open AND catch at this point though. There must be a few of those lying around eating Cheetos right now.

DRM08 10-29-2023 05:51 PM

Tennessee probably wants to keep Hopkins so they can give Will Levis a strong beginning phase of his career.

IowaHawkeyeChief 10-29-2023 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrowheadnation (Post 17197885)
If Veach is the gm god like we make him out to be, he’ll land both Hopkins and theilen, but as stingy as he is with draft picks, we’ll probably just roll with what we have.

as he ****ing should...Don't mortgage the window when we most likely will still be the favorite to win the SB after today's loss...

FlaChief58 10-29-2023 05:52 PM

Turns out, even Mahomes needs good targets. Who could've known :shrug:

MahomesMagic 10-29-2023 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17198000)
If we make a trade it should be for Mooney. Speed and a 1k WR in Nagy's offense in Chicago.
I'll take any WR that can get open AND catch at this point though. There must be a few of those lying around eating Cheetos right now.

Mooney immediately becomes the #1 WR here.

Megatron96 10-29-2023 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlaChief58 (Post 17198015)
Turns out, even Mahomes needs good targets. Who could've known :shrug:



A shocking turn, I tell you:thumb:

New World Order 10-29-2023 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17198008)
as he ****ing should...Don't mortgage the window when we most likely will still be the favorite to win the SB after today's loss...

How is trading a late round pick mortgaging our future?

No one is advocating to flip multiple firsts to correct the problem.

BWillie 10-29-2023 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17197952)
Who told you that?

Chiefsplanet

alanm 10-29-2023 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn (Post 17197983)
Every time we’ve won a superbowl we brought in a Ravens player mid year. I’m taking my shot on a former Ravens player on the 1-7 Cardinals. Hollywood Brown WR

This!

TheGreatCassholio 10-29-2023 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17197979)
I like Justin but he's a WR5 at best on any other roster.

And he's arguably our best WR with Rice. Bunch of punch bowl turds

Wisconsin_Chief 10-29-2023 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17198033)
Chiefsplanet

I can also verify I heard that here too.

If you wanted Hopkins, you were a dummy because we have 8 future Pro Bowlers under age 25 at WR.

Demonpenz 10-29-2023 06:03 PM

Chiefs going to be about what I buy at a bar. One round

-King- 10-29-2023 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17198008)
as he ****ing should...Don't mortgage the window when we most likely will still be the favorite to win the SB after today's loss...

What window is being mortgaged?

Megatron96 10-29-2023 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGreatCassholio (Post 17198056)
And he's arguably our best WR with Rice. Bunch of punch bowl turds



Hey, I can't argue. Statistically, Watson has played fairly well, considering what he is. But he's not a top-4 WR on any roster, except this one.

Rashee is the only Chiefs WR on the roster that another NFL team might put out there among their top three WRs.

BWillie 10-29-2023 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17198085)
Hey, I can't argue. Statistically, Watson has played fairly well, considering what he is. But he's not a top-4 WR on any roster, except this one.

Rashee is the only Chiefs WR on the roster that another NFL team might put out there among their top three WRs.

The truth hurts :(

Wisconsin_Chief 10-29-2023 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17198085)
Hey, I can't argue. Statistically, Watson has played fairly well, considering what he is. But he's not a top-4 WR on any roster, except this one.

Rashee is the only Chiefs WR on the roster that another NFL team might put out there among their top three WRs.

This is the worst WR group in football and I’d argue it’s not particularly close. These guys manage to make Mahomes look bad with the best pass protection he’s had in years.

That’s hardcore.

FlaChief58 10-29-2023 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17198114)
This is the worst WR group in football and I’d argue it’s not particularly close. These guys manage to make Mahomes look bad with the best pass protection he’s had in years.

That’s hardcore.

Yep, teams know how to stop us. Contain Travis and Pac. Make Mahomes beat you with thrift store wr's

Gary Cooper 10-29-2023 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlaChief58 (Post 17198122)
Yep, teams know how to stop us. Contain Travis and Pac. Make Mahomes beat you with thrift store wr's

Would be nice if we could run the ball effectively. That would take pressure off the passing game and the receivers. Too bad the O-Line can't run block.

BossChief 10-29-2023 06:18 PM

2-3 weeks ago, I was in the “gotta ride it out” group in terms of what to do with the WR position…it’s clear this offense needs another WR and it’s not looking like anyone but Rice is separating from the pack and even he has his serious questions.

It’s definitely time to try to add a starting quality WR to the mix.

srvy 10-29-2023 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17197542)
I was told this is a Top 5 WR core in the league. Repeatedly tried to warn you guys. These guys are awful. Rice is ok but hes still developing. The rest of the guys get cut from some teams sans MVS who is a one trick pony.

Who told you that?

There was a lot of " This has the potential to be with certain conditions." This was said at the end of the preseason by some.

I didn't read anyone guaranteeing it though.

L.A. Chieffan 10-29-2023 06:22 PM

Why don't we just go get JJ while we're at it?

Fishels 10-29-2023 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 17198170)
Who told you that?

There was a lot of " This has the potential to be with certain conditions." This was said at the end of the preseason by some.

I didn't read anyone guaranteeing it though.

I read plenty of people who implied we should trust veach no matter what. Not sure if you’re looking at different threads than we were but it was said ALOT

Megatron96 10-29-2023 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17198114)
This is the worst WR group in football and I’d argue it’s not particularly close. These guys manage to make Mahomes look bad with the best pass protection he’s had in years.

That’s hardcore.




They're not good.

Worse, except for Rice, they haven't improved at all from last season.

MVS, Toney and Skyy have actually regressed statistically. And those three were supposed to be our starting three WRs.


But it's okay. At least we didn't screw up our cap situation by rolling with the least talented WR room in the NFL.

And we're probably still the 4th best offense (total yards) in the league, so kudos to KC for hanging onto that title for another week.:clap:

mr. tegu 10-29-2023 06:23 PM

Rice seems to have some potential of being dynamic but everyone else seems to have only one skill which teams easily account for.

kccrow 10-29-2023 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 17198174)
Why don't we just go get JJ while we're at it?

I dunno man... Birden is 58 now and probably lost a few steps... plus he wasn't that great 30 years ago.

IowaHawkeyeChief 10-29-2023 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17198028)
How is trading a late round pick mortgaging our future?

No one is advocating to flip multiple firsts to correct the problem.

If we can get Hopkins for a late round pick and don't have to pick up his salary as Tennessee eats the bonus the OK. I would like to **** Megan Fox for $10 too...

FloridaMan88 10-29-2023 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17198183)
Rice seems to have some potential of being dynamic but everyone else seems to have only one skill which teams easily account for.

Not sure if Skyy even has one skill.

jerryaldini 10-29-2023 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17198085)
Hey, I can't argue. Statistically, Watson has played fairly well, considering what he is. But he's not a top-4 WR on any roster, except this one.

Rashee is the only Chiefs WR on the roster that another NFL team might put out there among their top three WRs.

Started the season as Toney, Moore, MVS in the first group.

Bowser 10-29-2023 06:29 PM

Nobody is trading an impact receiver to this team. The last thing the league wants is a legit WR that Mahomes can feed and take pressure off of Kelce.

If you TRULY want to trade for someone, call up Carolina and offer something for Thielen because that's probably about as good as it's going to get.

BWillie 10-29-2023 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerryaldini (Post 17198204)
Started the season as Toney, Moore, MVS in the first group.

Thats kind of scary that after we evaluated the talent the coaches and/or GM thought those were the 3 best guys.

ChiefsFanatic 10-29-2023 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17197652)
Any avg WR helps this offense immensely. Any single one.

He may be on the team already, but Rice doesn't know the secret handshake or the password, so he only gets limited snaps.

srvy 10-29-2023 06:29 PM

All this was is a team with a sick QB that is the engine that runs our O not looking like what we are accustomed to. Looking ahead to Miami and fun at Octoberfest in Germany. If I was Andy I would take the team at the last date by leagues he can. When they are there load them up with meetings to keep their focus. Typical overlooked this opponent and found out.

BWillie 10-29-2023 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 17198208)
Nobody is trading an impact receiver to this team. The last thing the league wants is a legit WR that Mahomes can feed and take pressure off of Kelce.

If you TRULY want to trade for someone, call up Carolina and offer something for Thielen because that's probably about as good as it's going to get.

We don't even need an impactful WR. We just neef one avg one.

RealSNR 10-29-2023 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17197542)
I was told this is a Top 5 WR core in the league.

LMAO LMAO

No you weren't.

The rest of your post is just more victory over the strawman you just beat up.

Congratulations.


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