The Chiefs are discussing a contract extension with L'Jarius Sneed
 

Per Jeremy Fowler's locked article below

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> have had some exploratory discussions of a contract extension with L&#39;Jarius Sneed that would keep the cornerback in K.C. per Jeremy Fowler. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Hive (@chiefshive) <a href="https://twitter.com/chiefshive/status/1725170068676382967?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 16, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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2-year deal and then pay mcduffie

Do it Bart!

I hope so, especially if they aren't going to sign Chris Jones long term.

I feel the need, the need for L'Jarius Sneed...

https://archive.is/vF2m7#selection-16857.0-16897.6



2. Chris Jones, DT, Kansas City Chiefs
2023 salary: $18.4 million
Age entering 2024 season: 30

Why he could get paid: With 5.5 sacks this season and the versatility to align off the edge -- where his pass rush win rate jumps from 14.7% to 25.0% -- Jones is still a game-wrecking talent on the defensive front. The eight-year veteran is a true disruptor, with 70.5 sacks, 12 forced fumbles and 25 pass breakups over his career. -- Bowen

What we're hearing: After talking to several people around the league about Jones, the feeling is he could flirt with the $30 million-per-year threshold on a new deal. He's the closest thing to Aaron Donald and has prime years left, turning 30 in July. The Chiefs likely can't afford to tag Jones; that would be worth 120% of his current $26.8 million cap hit, which works out to be more than $32 million. -- Fowler


7. L'Jarius Sneed, CB, Kansas City Chiefs
2023 salary: $2.7 million
Age entering 2024 season: 27

Why he could get paid: Sneed has the traits to match up on the perimeter or play a disruptive role as a slot defender, with one interception and four pass breakups in nine games this season. He is a scheme-versatile corner who can fit in both man and zone systems. Over a four-year career, Sneed has nine picks and 6.5 sacks. -- Bowen

What we're hearing: Sneed's do-it-all style will translate well to free agency, with the ability to play press coverage on the outside or be physical in the slot. Kansas City would like to keep Sneed and has had preliminary contract talks with him, but right now both sides appear focused on the current season. Talks could reignite after it ends, and if they go nowhere, Sneed is a franchise tag or free agency candidate. Enough contending teams were looking for a corner at the trade deadline -- including Buffalo, San Francisco, Cincinnati and Pittsburgh -- that the market will be viable for him. -- Fowler

"Both sides are focused on the current season" also known as, he wants to hit free agency and max out his $ as he should.

Good! Sneed is a lockdown corner!!

Jones agents really ****ed the Chiefs with this whole deal but probably did well for him in terms of getting him to FA with no tag.

The time for the Chiefs to have signed Sneed was before the season or last year.

At this point, he's gonna get to FA.

Few thoughts on this:

-Chiefs secondary is the strength of the team this year. The numbers on time to sack prove this.
-McDuffie is cheap for 3 more years due to 1st year low cap hit on new contracts. We can fit Sneed in.
-Chris Jones is most likely gone. Not sure how they fit that in money wise.
-Sneed is much cheaper than Chris. Maybe half the cost on the cap.
-Big investment on the DL (Karlaftis, Omenihu, FAU, Thompson) has the DL prepared for next year.

They've also spend alot of draft capital on the secondary, to then turn around and spend big money on it.

Same with the DL and Chris Jones

The secondary players have shown they can slot in and fill that role.

The DL has not.

If FAU and Thompson have the DL prepared for next year, what exactly is it "prepared" for?

I’d love to keep these corners together for a few years’

I wouldn't consider a $15-18 million contract to be big money. That's around 50-60% of what Chris Jones wants.

You've got Danna, Gay, Tranquill, Sneed and Jones walking off the defense next year.

I don't think you're gonna have a defense at the level next year as we do this year and I dn't know that I'd really go chasing trying to replace it with $. Keep drafting there for sure, but go spend on some offensive weapons.

Sneed will get 20 plus mil a year on the open market.

No chance you get him for 15-18. If he were gonna sign for that here, that deal woulda been done a while ago

What are Gay and Danna likely to get next year? I'd really like to try to keep those guys around, too.

The real strength of this defense is its unceasing depth. Yeah, we've got stud players for sure, but if we have to start making some tough decisions on which guys are gonna walk, I think quantity might outweigh quality by just a bit.

Logan Wilson got 4 years 36 mil. I'd guess about that for Gay?

And give me quality all the time. Easier to add quantity and depth than high end players.

When we see practically zero drop off when Sneed is out, though?

Ehhh…….

If Jones is gonna walk, I'd see if Chase Young gets away from San Fran and you could get him on like, Alex Highsmiths deal.

4 years70 mil, with about 35 GTD could really bring you some value if he hits his ceiling. Josh Allen is probably walking from Jacksonville this year, that's another buy lowish type guy maybe, but he's on pace to have 15 sacks this year so that ain't gonna happen.

Sneed is a great player, but he's in his last year here. Once guys hit the market, rarely do they sign with said team they're leaving.

He's either a tag and sign or he's walking.

Writing is on the wall there.

Sneed is not getting $20+ million LMAO

He's never been a pro bowler or all pro selection. Be real here man. He's probably gonna get around $18 million per. And that's what Veach is discussing now to get ahead of FA.

Keep in mind the contract will probably be inflated in that last year when he could be cut so the cap hits the first years would average like $16 million.

He's not signing during the season, this close to FA. If you think he's getting 18 here, once he hits the market and can get teams bidding, he'll get 20 plus. Basic economics.

It would be terrible by his agent if he let him sign a deal this close to FA without absolutely taking the Chiefs to the cleaners.

Plus, go look at the FA CB's about to hit the market. Sneed is by far the best one. Maybe Jaylen Johnson but I'd guess he gets tagged.

Sometimes players opt for this kind of secure deal, though. It's far from the norm, but it's not some once-every-ten-years kind of thing to see a great player sign a midseason extension that is probably worth less than what they could have got on the open market.

I am sure I read part of Jones deal for this year was no tag in 24. He's leaving. Keeping Snead is a win.

I see the logic here if this is legit. The front 7 is getting gutted in the offseason no matter what, so you may as well keep the secondary as strong as possible. These guys have incredible chemistry together and all seem to be playing their roles perfectly, you might as well try to keep that unit in tact.

As far as Sneed not wanting to sign before hitting free agency, not every player thinks like that. He was given an opportunity here that he may not have gotten elsewhere and seems to love being a Chief. He's a very humble guy and might not care about getting an extra $1-2 million a year over staying somewhere he's happy. Fowler is usually a pretty good source so there must be something to this. I'd love to see it.

I trust whatever Veach and Spags do with the secondary. They get it right more often than not.

If they give him a contract close to Diggs I bet he's take that in a heartbeat. Also keep in mind that next year is most likely Thuney's last year. Lot of money coming off the books there.

Chris Jones is turning 30 and won't get better at this point. If you're not paying him insane money its fine to pay a decent one to Sneed IMO

Not 8 games before they can hit FA.

It would be malpractice to let him sign a deal now, this close to the end.

Before the season? Sure.

Haven't we all agreed that the Pro Bowl and All Pro is a popularity contest?

Sneed is a beast and because he doesn't have an ego... he flies under the radar. He is massively under-rated.

The secondary is a revolving door at KC. Unless he's cheap, he's not going to be here.

That's fine. Keep that amazing depth going instead of dumping a lot into one guy.

Diggs is making 20 million a year. He also signed before any games were played this season.

I'm all for keeping Sneed if you could get him at a nice number. But he's not signing during the season, as the article here states.

Money coming off the books is great, but it's gonna go right back on when they sign Creed for 15/16 a year.

absolutely love sneed

he is a tough tough player

sure tackler

sooo many times he makes the play

keep in KC please

His cap hit doesn't get to $20 million until 2027. His contract runs through 2028 but they could get out of that contract as early as 2025 and save a ton of money with a post June 1st cut.

That 6 year combined deal is essentially a 3 year deal with a year-by-year play as you go the last 3 years.

Another position we draft/replace constantly.

Creed is awesome, but it wouldn't shock me if he walked.

Yep, I absolutely love Creed, but paying 15 million for a center? I just cannot see it.

Because they had an extra year, by signing him to an extension. We wouldn't have that luxury, so you wouldn't have those extra wonky years to squirrel money into.

For sure, but man, he's just been so much better than the others they've had.

I'd love to keep him. They'll need to replace the guards, but if you could get a legit LT or keep Smith and have the T's and C locked down, you could skimp on the G's a bit.

I’d tell him to sign or we will just tag his ass.

19 million to tag him.

I'm not sure they will do that.

Smart BV… keep the conversation going. Rock on bruv!

You did read that and it was wrong. He can be tagged.

Who was the last player to hit FA and sign with the team he was leaving?

Silverback

That very well could be the strategy they are using to get him to negotiate in season.

Letting him get to FA maxed out his pay, correct?

Yup, there is literally zero news in these articles. No shit they have had preliminary discussions, he is set to be a FA after this year.

Its a lot of words meaning nothing really.

James Bradberry
Jamel Dean
LaVonte David
Jordan Poyer
Jason Kelce
Kaleb McGary
Jonathan Jones
Darius Slayton
Kelvin Beachum
Ethan Pocic
Germaine Pratt
Connor McGovern
Fletcher Cox
Leighton Vander Esch
Alexander Mattison
Garrett Bradbury

Do any of those guys seem to be the level of player Sneed currently is, when they hit the market?

If he wants to come back on a one year type deal, sure have at it.

Using 2 high draft picks and paying Omenihu at a good rate is good preparation IMO.

I like what the Ravens do. They draft DL (Ojabo, Oweh, Madabuike) but they always bring in low cost vets and get great production from them. Calais Campbell was good, Justin Houston was good and this year Jadeveon Clowney is on pace for about 10 sacks.

It's all about a rotation of solid pass rushing talent

He’s not signing. Some team will give him way way more than Veach is willing to pay. Tags off the table. Veach needs to use the tag on Jones to get draft capital.

Few problems here.

1. Jones got a no tag clause in his showing of true colors.

2. Nobody trading ANYTHING for this asshole at 30 years old, knowing he's not going to be staying with KC.

3. There wasn't a trade market for him before his contact extension after the superbowl, when his value was it's absolute highest. Why would there be one now?

The influx of talent on the d line, the emergence of Karlaftis and Danna give KC that flexibility where before CJwas their only highlight on the line. Hell, our first round pick can barely get onto the field because we've got so many quality players.

Boot Jones, and use what would have paid him to retain 2+ other players. CJ will have 3 rings at that point, and will be all about the bag moving forward.

I don’t think this info is correct. The Chiefs can tag him
And then trade with his approval. But, the Chiefs own a tag this off season. Tagging Jones BBC will get us up to 15-20 picks.

None of this is correct my man.

Let’s face it. Veach will low ball him like every other player not named Mahomes. With all the draft capital spent on corners and safeties I’m sure he feels he has the upper hand.

This is a great marriage. No team, I would argue, could use the swiss army knife capability of Sneed better.

He has long been lauded here on CP and on reputable outlets such as KC Lab as being an elite blitzer/tackler while being a merely good coverage corner. His play this year silences that last half-criticism. He's been a Top 8 corner.

I think he makes a ton of sense in KC, but I can't see how we afford him. I've had him down as a for-sure free agent who walks and gets like $20m a year from some team that only uses him half as effectively as we do.

But if we can find a way to sign him, with some of the big decisions this team has this year (Jones) and next year (Creed & Bolton), I'll be ecstatic. He's been fantastic.

I think the chances of getting the value out of him are better than paying Jones at this point.

But if I was gonna go pay 20 plus mil for someone, I'd rather do it for a weapon on offense.

He does have the upper hand, we've recycled so many DBs really ever since getting Charvarius Ward from the Cowboys. Whatever we're doing, it's working. Eric Berry and Ron Parker are the last DBs to be multiyear starters in the range of five years. You'll have your Honey Badger and Justin Reid for a few years, but our program doesn't sign long term deals over 3 years anymore. Justin Reid might buck that trend but I wouldn't expect Sneed to get more than a 3 year deal.

At worst the Chiefs will get a plethora of comp picks in 2025. I think they bring back at least 1 of Chris Jones, Mike Danna, Willie Gay Jr and L'Jarius Sneed. Also think they bring back Donovan Smith and Drue Tranquill on reasonable deals.

You're looking at a 3rd and two 4th or 5th rd picks in 2025 if you bring Sneed back. That's how overpaid I think Danna and Willie will be.

Ideally we bring back Sneed, trade Chris Jones for multiple draft picks and get some comp picks in 2025.

Center is the cheapest position on the field outside of RB. If you give Creed a long 5 year deal that has a big cap hit in the last year when you can cut bait, the average would be roughly $12 million APY.

He's one of the 2 best Centers in the league and Thuney/Smith will be gone. Pay that man. Protect your investment

Spotrac's algorithm says Sneed is worth about $7m/year, so it's gonna be interesting to see if it's wildly off or if people here are. ROFL

They have a ton of tough decisions to make, honestly this will be the biggest offseason of Veach's career. With the amount of guys we could potentially lose over the next two years he's going to have to hit more homeruns than ever.

He's going to have to play 'Moneyball' more than ever. I think he kind of already started doing that this offseason with guys like Tranquill and Donovan Smith. It's not necessarily about keeping or signing certain players, it has to be getting the most value out of every dollar regardless of position. Getting a starting LT for $4 million is a great example. We will need tons more of those kind of moves. Paying guys market value is probably never going to happen here anymore, aside from Pat.

Sign the elite players you have, let teh good players walk and draft more good players. Simple formula right?

There were quite a few adamant that we were not going to be able to afford Hardman so there’s that.

Charvarious Ward got $14m/year

Sneed will get $18m/year, I bet.

CP overvaluing player values? Never!

It's a 19 game season for us on average in the Mahomes era. It seems like a bad idea to pay Chris Jones a $30 million price tag at 30 when you already have Mahomes enormous contract and guys get hurt.

Look at what the Tyreek trade and benefits did for this team? Look at what extra draft picks and flexibility did for the Ravens in 2018, 2020 and 2022?

Free up money to bring in above average performers relative to pay like Tranquill, Omenihu and Edwards and then use your picks to go BPA and fill out the roster.

Depth and above average performers get you thru the regular season, to the playoffs.

As we've seen, you need elite players in the playoffs. Will Chris be that going forward? Age probably says no, so you let him walk and move on.

The Tyreek trade was great and helped get McDuffie etc. It's also not as likely gonna work like that and you end up with good players, but not great players and you've downgraded a bit.

It's a whole hell of alot easier to find your Edwards and Tranquills every year. Those guys are always available to be had.

The elite ones aren't. Is Sneed that? I'd probably argue.....shit I don't really even know what I'd say there. He's pretty damn good but they've shown to be able to draft secondary players. I'd rather trust my process to draft and develop another guy and use the money to go pay a guy at a spot I may have whiffed on.

As he should. I will never understand this mentality. Why should every player max out his earnings? It's not like they're making pennies out there. They're still getting millions. And before you start with the millionaires vs billionaires narrative, that isn't the case at all. There is this thing called the CBA. The CBA sets a salary cap and a salary floor. Most teams, including the Chiefs, are up against that cap every year. So the extra money going to top players isn't affecting the owners in the lear. They're spending that money anyway. The ones being affected are the blue collar type guys that are contributing every week. Those guys are taking less because the stars are taking most of what is available. Don't get me wrong. I want to see Sneed get paid. But I don't think that he's going to have trouble taking care of his family if he gets $10M per year instead of $18M per year. But if we pay him $18M, who is going to have to lose their job because there's not enough money left?

McDuffie is that guy. He was vital in the Bengals AFCCG. I'd argue Bolton is viewed by the team as that too.

Karlaftis and Rice could be on their way. They both have potential

That's not what people want though.

Don't most CPers want Chris Jones gone?

No. They don't want to lose a ton of talent or the opportunity to improve at the cost of keeping one guy who wants to break the bank.

He's a 4th round pick, who' has played on a cheap contract for 4 years.

He should get the most money he can in the next contract, it may be his only time to cash in.

It's not his job to determine who gets paid and who doesn't, that's the GM.

There was another guy on the defense that was vital in that game, that you don't care to keep around.

I'd guess the team views him as that as well.