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Couch-Potato 11-22-2023 01:41 PM

Couch-Potatoes Max Cap Mock
 
MOCK OFFSEASON

I'm operating under the assumption that we win the SB. I'm going to max out all of our cap capabilities in order to keep the band together (likely unrealistic) and look to add some young playmakers.


TRANSACTIONS LOG:

Released Marquez Valdes-Scantling
(Saved: $12,000,000)
Released Justyn Ross
(Saved: $915,000)
Released Skyy Moore
(Saved: $823,591)

Restructured Joe Thuney
(Saved: $9,526,667)
Restructured Patrick Mahomes
(Saved: $5,980,000)
Restructured Travis Kelce
(Saved: $7,943,333)

Chris Jones cap hit changed from $5,400,080 to $28,500,000
(Saved: $-23,599,920)
Drue Tranquill signed as a free agent
(Cap: $1,500,000)
L'Jarius Sneed signed as a free agent
(Cap: $14,000,000)
Willie Gay Jr. signed as a free agent
(Cap: $6,000,000)
Tommy Townsend signed as a free agent
(Cap: $3,000,000)
Blaine Gabbert signed as a free agent
(Cap: $900,000)
Blake Bell signed as a free agent
(Cap: $900,000)

Marquise Brown signed as a free agent
(Cap: $13,500,000)
Rashaad Penny signed as a free agent
(Cap: $900,000)

CAP SPACE:
$4,761,501


DRAFT:

RD1: WR Xavier Legette, SC, 6-3, 227, 4.29, 1187 YRDS, 18.3 AVG, 7 TDS

-16 Plays of 30+ YRDS, 0-60, Quick, Physical, Break Away Speed, YAC, Balance, Deep Ball, Contested Catch & Jump Ball Specialist, Returner, 22.3 MPH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOkv24aYogA

RD2: DT T'Vondre Sweat, TX, 6-4, 360, 99% Run Defense Rating

-Huge, Athletic, High Effort, Penetrator, Disruptive, Dominant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX8MLHHnTAI

RD3: WR Brenden Rice, USC, 6-3, 215, 4.38, 791 YRDS, 17.6 AVG, 12 TDS

-Jerry Rice's Son, Fast, Field-Stretcher, Track Star, Bruce Fieldmen's Freaks List, YAC, Alpha, Returner, Clutch, High IQ, Savy, Reliable, Strong, 23 MPH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZv7TzRFF7M

RD4: OL Tyler Guyton, OK, 6-7, 327, 5.10

-High-end Physical Traits, Agile, Fast, Versatile, Finisher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMZNCWy_1vE

RD5a: DB Jaylin Simpson, AU, 6-1, 180, 4.43, 27.6 QBR Rating, 4 INT, 37 TCKLS

-Tall, Long, Fast, Plus Coverage Guy, Versatile, Tackler, Big Hitter, SEC DPOY Candidate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjG0a_rcjFc

RD5b: OL Zion Nelson, 6-6, 320,

-Former 1st RD target w/ Knee Injury, Long, Athletic, Pass-Blocker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsXyxqOAv6Y

RD7: RB Jaylin Wright, TEN, 5-11, 210, 4.31, 938 YRDS, 7.4 AVG, 4 TD, 132 REC YRDS, 98% Tackle Breaking Score

-Playmaker, Bruce Fieldmen's Freaks List, Decisive, Fast, One-Cut & Go, YAC, Elite Stop & Go, Excellent Pass Catcher, Runs Occasional Slot WR Routes, 23.6 MPH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOY4SeZU-Gc


ROSTER:

QB: P. Mahomes, B Gabbert
RB: I. Pacheco, R. Penny, J. Wright
WR: M. Brown, R. Rice, X Legette, B. Rice, J. Watson, K. Toney
TE: T. Kelce, B. Bell
LT: J. Taylor, Z. Nelson
LG: J. Thuney, L. Niang
OC: C. Humphrey
RG: T. Smith, N. Allegretti
RT: W. Morris, T. Guyton
DE: G. Karlaftis, B. Thompson
DT: C. Jones
NT: T. Sweat, N. Ferrell
DE: Omenihu, F. Anudike-Uzomah
LB: N. Bolton, W. Gay, D. Tranquill, L. Chenal
CB: T. McDuffie, L. Sneed, J. Williams, J. Watson
DB: B. Cook, J. Simpson
ST: H. Butker, T. Townsend


SOURCES:

CAP Space
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tools/ro...y-chiefs/2024/

Draft Pics
https://www.prosportstransactions.co...ure/Chiefs.htm

Draft Profiles
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/

Draft Simulator
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/


DISCLAIMERS

This is not a very conservative approach, I watch zero college football, some of these guys probably go 1 rd up or down. I'm a die hard homer who's cap space optimism is apparent. This is just for fun. Do we really have this many draft picks?

Couch-Potato 11-22-2023 02:15 PM

Edited to let RT D. Smith go and pick up WR M Brown. I'll let Niang, Morris, Guyton, & Nelson compete for RT and push Taylor for LT.

Watch that highlight of Guyton, he's crazy fast and would make a great swing tackle.

Brown is our new Hill,
R. Rice is our new JuJu,
Legette is our DK Metcalf,
B. Rice is our new MVS,
Wright is our new McKinnon.

The Franchise 11-22-2023 02:45 PM

3 rookie WRs is overkill. They'll never see the field.

Couch-Potato 11-22-2023 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17238533)
3 rookie WRs is overkill. They'll never see the field.

That's fair, I edited per your suggestion to include Brown.

Even with x3 rookie WRs and no FA WRs, we'd still have Rice, Watson, & Toney from the previous year's core so it's really all upside from there.

I'm leaning on Legette's plus physical traits and Rice's pedigree to produce more than the typical Reid rookie WR.

Couch-Potato 11-22-2023 03:33 PM

I also like...

1st-RD
Keon Coleman, FSU, 6-4, 215, 4.45
Emeka Egbuka, OH ST, 6-1, 205, 4.3
Adonai Mitchell, TX, 6-4, 195, 4.5
Troy Franklin, ORG, 6-3, 185, 4.35
Brian Thomas, LSU, 6-4, 205, 4.47

3rd-RD
Johnny Wilson, FSU, 6-7, 235, 4.42
Ja'Lynn Polk, WAS, 6-2, 205, 4.48
Tre Harris, HOU, 6-2, 205, 4.4
Tory Horton, CO-ST, 6-2, 190, 4.45

So many WRs in this draft someone has to fall to us.

Dante84 11-22-2023 05:10 PM

Good work!

I'd let Blake Bell walk, and possibly Willie Gay.

I'd also like to see us get 2 WR's (Evans/Brown? Higgins/Ridley?) in FA + a 1st rounder, and the money from Gay would help with that. That would also open our 2nd or 3rd rounder to use on an OT.

If Sneed prices himself out of staying with us, we keep Gay and still do the same above.

Coogs 11-22-2023 05:28 PM

Do we have that many draft picks?

Couch-Potato 11-22-2023 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 17238681)
Do we have that many draft picks?

Confirmed that we only have x2 5th's currently, adjusting.

Primary point is to push back on the "we don't have enough to sign our own" mantra and remind fellow fans we can turn around the WR room in a single offseason. Truth is that there are 100 other more creative ways to distribute those contracts that results in the same that I'm not savvy enough to be familiar with, but I'm pretty sure Brett Veach is.

Coogs 11-23-2023 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17238747)
Confirmed that we only have x2 5th's currently, adjusting.

Primary point is to push back on the "we don't have enough to sign our own" mantra and remind fellow fans we can turn around the WR room in a single offseason. Truth is that there are 100 other more creative ways to distribute those contracts that results in the same that I'm not savvy enough to be familiar with, but I'm pretty sure Brett Veach is.

So we officially have 8 picks? I have read we only have 5 picks a few times. Probably read that here on CP, so I have no idea what the official count is.

Couch-Potato 11-23-2023 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 17239081)
So we officially have 8 picks? I have read we only have 5 picks a few times. Probably read that here on CP, so I have no idea what the official count is.

https://www.prosportstransactions.co...ure/Chiefs.htm

Is this incorrect?

kccrow 11-23-2023 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17239129)

It's correct.

That 7th is unlikely to transfer. I don't think it will. We also will have a 5th-round comp pick for Wylie. Trading for Hardman ****ed us out of getting another 5th rounder.

So...

1.
2.
3.
4.
5. (f/DAL)
5. (comp)
7.

kccrow 11-23-2023 02:46 PM

I like the ideas here but I don't want anything to do with Legette in round 1. I won't bitch, necessarily, if that were the way Veach went but I've said before I'm extremely concerned about him lacking any real production before year 5 in the same system and position that saw Antwane Wells Jr step right in after transferring from James Madison and produce. Wells getting hurt is the only real reason Legette became the primary, and really only, target in the offense. They are force-feeding him balls which is also inflating his stats.

I don't know that Veach will go for a guy as big as Sweat. Tyliek Williams or Nazir Stackhouse seem more like fits at around 320.

I do think you have Guyton 2 rounds too low.

I really like the idea of Rice in round 3, and maybe even 2.

Anyhow, overall I really think it's solid.

Chris Meck 11-23-2023 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17238747)
Confirmed that we only have x2 5th's currently, adjusting.

Primary point is to push back on the "we don't have enough to sign our own" mantra and remind fellow fans we can turn around the WR room in a single offseason. Truth is that there are 100 other more creative ways to distribute those contracts that results in the same that I'm not savvy enough to be familiar with, but I'm pretty sure Brett Veach is.

You can be as savvy as you want, the problem is that the bill comes due. If you're willing to have a couple of shite years to maximize one year, sure you can do it.

But I'd prefer to be a contender for the Super Bowl EVERY year.

Couch-Potato 11-23-2023 04:58 PM

There are other WRs that are more of a sure thing, but in this mock I'm trying to break the mold in KC. We always seem to pursue the T Locket type, but instead here we nab our DK Metcalf. My fear would be that Legette's more Trey Burks than DK Metcalf. I want guys with big play potential because we tend to spread the ball around. DK went #64 so I could honestly see my picks #1 & #2 swapped. Legette's yards this season are approx. equal to DK's entire college career.

Sweat is huge! How are you going to double Sweat, Jones, AND Omenihu? lol I see him as the NT fans have been looking to add to this DL the last couple seasons.

I agree, Guyton and Rice might be 2nd rounders, but I also think Nelson, Simpson, and Wright could go higher than they're currently projected on Draftbuzz.com. What's with Wright? 7.4 yards AVG, but not listed anywhere as a top back in this class? Is TEN's offense really that foreign to NFL offenses?

Couch-Potato 11-23-2023 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17239368)
It's correct.

That 7th is unlikely to transfer. I don't think it will. We also will have a 5th-round comp pick for Wylie. Trading for Hardman ****ed us out of getting another 5th rounder.

So...

1.
2.
3.
4.
5. (f/DAL)
5. (comp)
7.

I had an extra 5th and a 6th in there originally.

We definitely don't have a 6th?

Couch-Potato 11-23-2023 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17239459)
You can be as savvy as you want, the problem is that the bill comes due. If you're willing to have a couple of shite years to maximize one year, sure you can do it.

But I'd prefer to be a contender for the Super Bowl EVERY year.

Let's convince this defense to stick together and do a better job of identifying young playmakers on offense.

By "max cap" I also meant we max out our ability to restructure/extend players. Ultimately, I think my mock offseason is unrealistic because I made too many transactions. Asking x3 star offensive players to restructure in order to pay x3 star defensive players and a vet WR is a lot of work for one offseason.

Couch-Potato 11-24-2023 08:23 AM

1. Keep top 5 defense together
2. Upgrade the WR core
3. Prep the OL for turnover/savings

Chris Meck 11-24-2023 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17239844)
1. Keep top 5 defense together
2. Upgrade the WR core
3. Prep the OL for turnover/savings

I'm all for cutting MVS.

I think you can replace/upgrade him with Mooney, and at better or equal money.

If you sign Jonesy, you'll have to let Sneed walk, probably Gay as well.

I don't know that I wouldn't, as We still have a stacked LB corps if you re-sign Tranquill, and a stacked secondary even without Sneed.

I'd probably do it.

Couch-Potato 11-24-2023 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17239865)
I'm all for cutting MVS.

I think you can replace/upgrade him with Mooney, and at better or equal money.

If you sign Jonesy, you'll have to let Sneed walk, probably Gay as well.

I don't know that I wouldn't, as We still have a stacked LB corps if you re-sign Tranquill, and a stacked secondary even without Sneed.

I'd probably do it.

Sucks to have such a good D but key members at each level up for FA this offseason.

I agree...gotta keep Chris Jones, Gay becomes expendable bc our LB core is stacked, and Sneed probably prices himself out of KC.

Would be great to see some Veach magic at work and we keep 2/3, if not 3/3. For certain I'd drop MVS to keep Sneed.

kccrow 11-24-2023 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17239483)
I had an extra 5th and a 6th in there originally.

We definitely don't have a 6th?

Not unless the reported compensation for the trade for Neil Farrell is completely wrong.

Couch-Potato 11-26-2023 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17239388)
I do think you have Guyton 2 rounds too low.

If Guyton isn't there I'm letting Gay walk and nabbing

RD4. ILB Junior Colson, Michigan, 6-3, 247, 4.58, 95% Tackling

-Rangy, Excellent Block Shedder, Physical, Regularly Disruptive in Backfield, Violent and Consistent Tackler, Good Speed & Closing Burst, Aggressive.

Couch-Potato 11-26-2023 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17239388)
I do think you have Guyton 2 rounds too low.

If Guyton isn't there I'm letting Gay walk and nabbing

RD4. ILB Junior Colson, Michigan, 6-3, 247, 4.58, 95% Tackling

-Rangy, Excellent Block Shedder, Physical, Regularly Disruptive in Backfield, Violent and Consistent Tackler, Good Speed & Closing Burst, Aggressive.

Coogs 11-26-2023 12:25 PM

Guyton isn't even starting for OU anymore. He went out with an injury. OU liked the guy that replaced him better. Guyton is healthy. He didn't take his spot back.

Couch-Potato 11-26-2023 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 17242565)
Guyton isn't even starting for OU anymore. He went out with an injury. OU liked the guy that replaced him better. Guyton is healthy. He didn't take his spot back.

Interesting! So he might be available later in the draft as an injury concern and/or developmental swing tackle type... that'd be nice.

duncan_idaho 11-26-2023 10:46 PM

Great effort.

I like Marqise Brown. Seems like a very Chiefs move. Ok with the double dip at WR in the draft, too, though id go somewhere other than Legette.

Hoover 11-27-2023 07:23 AM

It's ****ing stupid to release Skyy Moore when he's on a rookie contract. Jesus, if he is your #3 or #4 WR you are printing money.

Couch-Potato 12-01-2023 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17238510)
Edited to let RT D. Smith go and pick up WR M Brown. I'll let Niang, Morris, Guyton, & Nelson compete for RT and push Taylor for LT.

Watch that highlight of Guyton, he's crazy fast and would make a great swing tackle.

Brown is our new Hill,
R. Rice is our new JuJu,
Legette is our DK Metcalf,
B. Rice is our new MVS,
Wright is our new McKinnon.

DK looked pretty good last night! lol Damn! What could have been.

Couch-Potato 12-01-2023 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 17246822)
It's ****ing stupid to release Skyy Moore when he's on a rookie contract. Jesus, if he is your #3 or #4 WR you are printing money.

I threw him in there bc I couldn't gain any cap space by letting Toney go.

My emotions got the best of me lol

Couch-Potato 12-12-2023 09:50 AM

Saw this on the ESPN mock today:

15. Los Angeles Rams (6-7)
Tyler Guyton, OT, Oklahoma

The Rams might have found a left tackle of the future with Alaric Jackson, but the right side has been an issue this season with Rob Havenstein manning the position. Guyton -- a raw but highly mobile blocker -- is my pick for who will be the position's biggest riser during the pre-draft process. The former defensive lineman is still learning to play offensive tackle, but his agility in space as a run-blocker is fantastic, and his length in pass protection is ideal for a rookie starter.

That's Guyton in the 1st round, going #15, holy hell he's all over the board.

Direckshun 12-12-2023 10:04 AM

It wouldn't be altogether shocking, depending on what we do in free agency, to see the Chiefs keep Donovan Smith and draft a guy who needs some coaching like Guyton.

OKchiefs 12-12-2023 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 17246822)
It's ****ing stupid to release Skyy Moore when he's on a rookie contract. Jesus, if he is your #3 or #4 WR you are printing money.

He adds nothing to the offense or special teams and takes up a valuable roster spot. Remember when 3rd rd pick Keivarae Russell was released before the season? Sometimes you just have to cut your losses.

Couch-Potato 12-12-2023 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 17276419)
He adds nothing to the offense or special teams and takes up a valuable roster spot. Remember when 3rd rd pick Keivarae Russell was released before the season? Sometimes you just have to cut your losses.

Agreed. If it's between signing Marquise Brown or Keeping Sky Moore, I'd happily sign Brown.

Megatron96 12-12-2023 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 17246822)
It's ****ing stupid to release Skyy Moore when he's on a rookie contract. Jesus, if he is your #3 or #4 WR you are printing money.




He’s not good enough to be a 3. Barely even a 4.

philfree 12-18-2023 09:38 PM

So this is based to a total salary cap of $240million in 2024?

Couch-Potato 12-19-2023 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 17288762)
So this is based to a total salary cap of $240million in 2024?

$243,871,746.00

philfree 12-20-2023 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17289292)
$243,871,746.00

Cool! From my limited study I think the cap will end up being $250million in 2024 and $280million in 2025. So we'll have a little more wiggle room to put together another Championship roster.

Couch-Potato 12-26-2023 10:25 AM

ESPN listed OT Guyton in their list of 1st rounders with plus traits.

Tyler Guyton, Oklahoma (No. 14)
Comp: Lane Johnson

Watching Guyton -- a former defensive lineman -- glide across the field in pass protection and run blocking makes it hard to not see Johnson, a former Sooner. Guyton is 6-foot-7 and 315 pounds with beautiful agility and length. He's still developing his full toolbox at right tackle but has the lower-body traits to play the left or right side in the pros. In 29 college games (15 starts), Guyton allowed one sack.

kccrow 12-26-2023 01:20 PM

Jordan Morgan is gonna get some love too. He's a really good pass protector. Wouldn't be disappointed to see the Chiefs look at him at LT either.

Chris Meck 12-27-2023 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17277157)
Agreed. If it's between signing Marquise Brown or Keeping Sky Moore, I'd happily sign Brown.

There's no world in which this is an equation.

JPH83 12-27-2023 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17301604)
Jordan Morgan is gonna get some love too. He's a really good pass protector. Wouldn't be disappointed to see the Chiefs look at him at LT either.

Think we'd get him in the 2nd?

spanky 52 12-27-2023 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 17303014)
Think we'd get him in the 2nd?

He goes in the first IMHO.

kccrow 12-27-2023 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 17303014)
Think we'd get him in the 2nd?

Nope. 1st rounder.

JPH83 12-29-2023 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17303066)
Nope. 1st rounder.

Just wondering if R1 gets eaten up with QBs and WRs before it gets to him

kccrow 12-29-2023 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 17305727)
Just wondering if R1 gets eaten up with QBs and WRs before it gets to him

The draft is lacking in 1st round talent on defense so we'll see. I think he's fringe though. Not going to make it to our 2nd.

JPH83 12-29-2023 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17305733)
The draft is lacking in 1st round talent on defense so we'll see. I think he's fringe though. Not going to make it to our 2nd.

Wonder if we could move up in the 2nd? Or trade back a little from the first. I think our first pick is almost certainly a WR, as it should be. I'd also hoped and expected we'd then go for a developmental LT and then another WR or TE. Obviously dependent on how the board falls.

Problem is I think we need a LT that is less "developmental". I'd almost certainly try and get Tyron Smith for a year and pick a LT R2 that may need a bit more time.

kccrow 12-29-2023 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 17305739)
Wonder if we could move up in the 2nd? Or trade back a little from the first. I think our first pick is almost certainly a WR, as it should be. I'd also hoped and expected we'd then go for a developmental LT and then another WR or TE. Obviously dependent on how the board falls.

Problem is I think we need a LT that is less "developmental". I'd almost certainly try and get Tyron Smith for a year and pick a LT R2 that may need a bit more time.

I would want absolutely nothing to do with Tyron Smith and his injury problems. Dude hasn't played a full season in like 8 years. If you're going to go that way, just sign Becton. At least he's young and can play either side well.

This might be the year Veach finally tries to solve LT in the draft. If Amarius Mims slips a bit, he seems like the young, athletic freak he'd want to hand Andy.

I'm absolutely not zeroed in on WR as THE pick in round 1. I think a solid veteran plus another round 2 guy is likely unless he does sign a vet LT.

Couch-Potato 12-29-2023 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17306304)
I would want absolutely nothing to do with Tyron Smith and his injury problems. Dude hasn't played a full season in like 8 years. If you're going to go that way, just sign Becton. At least he's young and can play either side well.

This might be the year Veach finally tries to solve LT in the draft. If Amarius Mims slips a bit, he seems like the young, athletic freak he'd want to hand Andy.

I'm absolutely not zeroed in on WR as THE pick in round 1. I think a solid veteran plus another round 2 guy is likely unless he does sign a vet LT.

I agree, I think we're probably looking at LT or DT in the first depending on whether we sign Jones or not.

JPH83 12-30-2023 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17306304)
I would want absolutely nothing to do with Tyron Smith and his injury problems. Dude hasn't played a full season in like 8 years. If you're going to go that way, just sign Becton. At least he's young and can play either side well.

This might be the year Veach finally tries to solve LT in the draft. If Amarius Mims slips a bit, he seems like the young, athletic freak he'd want to hand Andy.

I'm absolutely not zeroed in on WR as THE pick in round 1. I think a solid veteran plus another round 2 guy is likely unless he does sign a vet LT.

I might be wrong but I think Smith has played pretty much this whole year, and I'm not convinced Becton can play anywhere near his level. But yeah, no doubt a gamble. I'd just prefer the one I KNOW can play at an elite level. Only other option I can see is Trent Brown.

I don't love the approach, but I just can't see LT options and i don't think they pick an LT first given the need at WR, nor should they. I think it's a WR first and then maybe a trade up or 2nd round pick on whatever is the best developmental LT left. In that case I'd be amazed if we don't want an insurance policy, and that's really what I'd expect of a Smith or Becton. A kind of "please give us any many snaps as possible before you break and we put in the new guy. Fingers crossed he's ready".

I could possibly be talked into a LT R1, I just think the quality is well below the WR options at that point. The WRs are deep but I'd hate to miss out on one of the better ones.

PHOG 12-30-2023 12:18 PM

Tyron Smith has missed 5 games this year, and currently has a back issue, but might play tonight vs Detroit. He also missed all but 4 games last year, and is 33.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...S/SmitTy00.htm

Chris Meck 12-30-2023 08:51 PM

Morris looked serviceable until the Raiders game, but they all looked like shit that game. So I'm not throwing him out just yet.

JPH83 12-31-2023 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHOG (Post 17307227)
Tyron Smith has missed 5 games this year, and currently has a back issue, but might play tonight vs Detroit. He also missed all but 4 games last year, and is 33.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...S/SmitTy00.htm

Hmm, well that's...not ideal. Still don't want Becton either. That leaves, what, Trent Brown? Urgh, man I'd really not go super early for LT in the draft but it looks likely we'll have to. Absolutely no way you can roll into next year with Morris and Smith re-signed.

Palangi 12-31-2023 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17308130)
Morris looked serviceable until the Raiders game, but they all looked like shit that game. So I'm not throwing him out just yet.

I agree. It funny to watch some dismiss him so fast because of one game. The whole line struggled that game too. Let him continue to develop and be patient this year. Experience and development will be huge for him and is what is needed

Stryker 12-31-2023 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17238667)
Good work!

I'd let Blake Bell walk, and possibly Willie Gay.

I'd also like to see us get 2 WR's (Evans/Brown? Higgins/Ridley?) in FA + a 1st rounder, and the money from Gay would help with that. That would also open our 2nd or 3rd rounder to use on an OT.

If Sneed prices himself out of staying with us, we keep Gay and still do the same above.

Tee Higgins is INJURY PRONE EVERY season! NO to TH!


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