Skyy Moore is a better WR than Marquez Valdes-Scantling
 

We don't have enough threads about WR's, so here's my contribution.

Skyy Moore is the better overall player, and should take the majority of MVS' snaps.

Change my mind.

^ This play literally cost a man his job.

MVS would have just dropped it.

I would take Clifford Franklin over MVS.

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Oh no you dinnt!

Adam Teicher is a better journalist than Brooke Pryor.

I'm a better WR than Marquez Valdes-Scantling.

MVS is just a faster version of Demarcus Robinson.

Leslie Neilson said that?

Nah. Robinson actually had some chemistry with Mahomes and would actually get catches every game. It was always him running backwards that was infuriating. Sadly he would be an upgrade over MVS at this point.

I will say, the play he made out there against Peters was something he hasn't done. Usually, he chops his feet, gives the defender time to recover then gets tackled for a minimal gain.

He put his foot in the ground, cut, got up field.

Keep doing that.

Robinson did more in 1 1/2 games than MVS has this entire season.

Wrap your mind around that.

Where's htismaqe when you need him?

Lol, MVS will make amends just like last year. LMAO

If he has a playoff game like last year forgiveness will be given.

Eh, MVS actually gets open beyond 6 yards downfield so I have to disagree.

We need better from MVS down the stretch, though; there is no doubt about that.

Neither are getting DUIs or going Stephon Diggs when times are bad. Bonding through better suffering!

Never was crazy about drob but dude did have a specific role. He was actually really good at getting open in scramble drill. Catching the ball, not as much. But he was always open.

Mvs is a very different WR. He’s definitely a clear out option but it’s hard to be valuable when your number gets called a few times a game. I never understood why a clear out option had to be a boom bust guy. Of course a speed options bread and butter will be deep routes, but we can’t find a guy who’s fast and at least remotely effective with short/intermediate stuff too?

It’s been pointed out that Andy likes his WRs to wear many hats. In the future we need to have more guys with versatility versus having specialists who do only one thing well (even worse when they don’t do the one thing they were supposed to specialize in).

All MVS can do is run in a straight line

Apparently he's supposed to be a good blocker too, but I've never noticed it

That's like saying I get laid more than Clay doesn't mean much

If MVS was a steak he would be a fillet steak. Overpriced and vastly inferior to most other cuts out there.

If Skyy Moore was a steak he would be the tinned variety. You'll leave it on the floor and 1 hour later your dog's dead.

It’s too bad Moore can’t get open because he can be dangerous with the ball in his hands. Unfortunately I don’t see him getting open often.

I want to show you my newest sports card...

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Watson does the same thing as MVS but better. At least Moore will occasionally get us the short stuff. MVS doesn't do the short stuff.

To be fair, MVS has been throwing some good downfield blocks for the other guys who can catch the ball.

DeMarcus also made some amazing plays in his time here. I remember a Raider game where he just deep dicked them the entire game and made a couple of amazing catches.

I'll take him over MVS any day.

{shrug}

The moment Skyy has a game half as good as MVS had in the Bengals game, I'll listen.

And MVS at least does the little shit (he's always getting dap from teammates and coaches for running hard/good pick routes and/or strong blocking downfield) consistently whereas Moore seems lost in space on half his snaps.

I think Moore has a higher ceiling and greater upside, but the snaps where he appears to have never played football before are a real issue.

Everyone forgets the playoff game vs the Bengals- MVS put the receivers on his back that game which is large in part why we got to the Superbowl. At least MVS has those spectacular moments/game where he's been a large contributor.

Skyy Moore has never done shit.

This.

Ya'll slob Frank ****ing Clark's knob for only showing up in the playoffs. So given how huge the AFCC game was last year, why aren't you doing the same with MVS?

I just want to know what the line is. Is it because MVS dropped the important catch? So what if instead of having his screw-up on full display in a crucial situation he were just invisible like Frank always was in the regular season? Would he be getting the same treatment then?

They can see a clear out with MVS and he won't be a Chief next year.

Frank was under contract so that had to be justified.

What about that last weird restructure/whatever the crap Veach did to his contract to allow him to stick around for another year? He should have been cut, but we were too afraid to run out a DL with Danna/Dunlap.

Veach did the contract thingy and everybody celebrated. When a handful of us said it was bad, we got nothing but, "PLAYOFF FRANK!!!!!" comments.

Had we paid Clark a middle class contract and never given up draft capital to acquire him (and he didn't have a rabid following of ball washers 'round here) I'd have never said much about him. Give him an Okafor deal and it would've been wine and roses for me.

Meanwhile MVS is being compared to a guy who "has looked great the last few weeks" because he had 3 catches for 34 yards. Nevermind the fact that "MVS sets up his teammates on catches and blocks well" is a HELL of a lot more accurate than Frank Clark: Elite Edge Setter ever was.

One game actually DID make the MVS contract worthwhile. Because it wasn't much of a contract and we didn't give up draft picks for him.

Matt Lane said something stupid on Twitter and despite all efforts at informing the ballwashers otherwise, there was simply no saving them.

"It costs the same to keep him as it would have to cut him" was just so hilariously stupid and they just. kept. saying. it.

I have no problem overall with the MVS signing simply for that reason. Same reason I always defended Frank Clark, he showed up when it mattered and helped us win Super Bowls. MVS did the same thing.

If he never makes another meaningful play, I still won't have any issue paying him what they did. I just prefer he stop sucking shit this year at some point.

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Even if I don’t see his future here I hope he’ll be respected on the way out. Between him and skyy, these are good guys who do all the right things. They just lack certain talents. It’s not their fault if they see the field when they shouldn’t. No reason to be mad at these guys when it wasn’t their decision to be given such high usage.

And who knows… maybe he has a few clutch games like that still in his hat. Maybe he’s one of those weird guys like Sorensen that just show up when the lights get really big

He is not

Hopefully neither will be on the Chiefs roster next season.

I'm not playing this revisionist history bull shit. DRob was playing in 60-70% of snaps for a 4 year period and never eclipsed 466 yds or 45 receptions. DRob was a really shit WR and I'd take MVS over him all day every day.

DRob had damn near 700 snaps in 2021, but was only targeted 41 times. DRob sucked and Skyy Moore will end up being more productive in his second year than DRob ever was and contrary to the thread title Moore is worse than MVS and probably the shittiest WR on the active roster atm. DRob would be the worst WR on this team if he played here this year.

Well shit. If BWillie comes to the same conclusion that I do, then I'm more than likely wrong.

I miss JuJu Smith Schuster the most. He could catch the ball and make plays.

I was very confident Skyy Moore was going to be the man this year, but that confidence is fading.

I had an old Packer fan friend tell me about MVS when the Chiefs got him, "faster than hell but can't catch shit, good luck."

We need MVS to carry a little person on his shoulders to catch for him. Or maybe Moore can ride on him.

Yep Im always wrong. Thats why Im undefeated in CP bets. Also told everyone before the season started that every WR is dogshit wirh the exception of possibly Rice...and James who hasn't really got a shot yet.

Turd Sandwich VS Giant Douche?


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The numbers don't lie...

Skyy Moore..............57.5
MVS..........................52

And how much are you willing to pay in FA for said guy who's fast, at least remotely effective with short intermediate stuff, and presumably is no worse than average in the drops department???

:hmmm:

Butt ****ing morons...PFF

I do appreciate what MVS did for the Chiefs last year in the AFC Championship.

That was then, this is now. He has been practically invisible this season. Oh sure, you say he runs decoy or run off routes, he blocks well, sure. But he's the highest paid WR on the roster and while no, it's not even half of what Tyreek makes, it's still a chunk of change. And I expect a guy being paid like that to produce a lot more. That is the one big difference between him and Skyye. If Skyye were being paid like that I'd want him gone yesterday.

And I was one that didn't care for Frank's huge contract because of the same reasons. He wasn't producing anything near what his pay said he should produce. But yeah, he had some good postseason runs. Still, I was glad to see him gone finally this year.

Do you expect him to be much different than he was at GB with Rodgers?

So they both suck this season. That is nothing to brag about.

If all the dude is gonna do is clear out then draft a specialist. And or relegate him to a role where he can be a specialist instead of absorbing such a high snap share only to get 1-3 targets a game. But yeah long term goal is to draft your own guy who can do some of the clear out without being a waste of space for a large portion of routes.

I honestly don't see how Hardman can't do what MVS does, for pennies on the dollar.

It's not like MVS is some plus route runner, and while he's tall, he doesn't play big.

If you just need a speedy go-route guy, let's let Mecole do that shit.

Thats like saying a Reeses cup is better than literal shit. Deberg was an S tier shit poster.

Reminds me of a less dependable Albert Wilson. Good WR4, shitty when the pressure is on and folds like an omelet.

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A Ford Pinto is better than an AMC Pacer :thumb:

Skyy Moore:

20 catches
229 yards
1 TD

DaRon Bland:

7 interceptions
209 yards
5 TDs

MVS:
15 receptions
248 yards
1 TD

The Dallas Cowboys have a defensive back with almost as many "receiving" yards on the passes he has caught, with 5 touchdowns.

That makes the stats for both Skyy Moore and MVS look ridiculous. Moore and MVS play with the best QB this league has ever seen.

It doesn't matter which one of them is better, because being the nicest smelling piece of shit, still means you are a piece of shit.

Choosing between Skyy Moore and MVS us like having to decide between Lizzo and Roseanne Barr as hookup options

If it's gotten to that point, celibacy might become VERY appealing.

MVS is having his one good game of the season this week in his return to Green Bay. It's going to be great fun.

Well he's on IR, so yeah, he actually CAN'T do that

Skyy stiff arming Peters, has got to have raised him a couple notches. In Mahomes' book

If you're talking about this season then yes Skyy has been definitively better bc he was a big part of us winning the Jags game while MVS has not only dropped passes but turned the ball over.

If you're talking about overall? Probably MVS bc of the Bengals game last year.

I don't mean this week. I mean in general and moving forward.

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Quoting for truth.

(Can you do that with your own posts?)

LOL just as we all predicted

If Skyy weren't already on the IR, trying to catch that throw along the sideline that MVS pulled in would've put him there...

I really hope we never see that guy again. We will - but I don't have to like it.

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With 2 catches...seems more of an indictment of the rest of the WRs...

I mean, good job MVS! Nice of you to show up.

Just sign MVS and Clark for the postseason I guess.

It's crazy how fickle their system is is. He had 2 catches on 4 targets, and suddenly he's great.

Kudos to MVS for making that catch down the sideline. That was a great catch. Thanks for doing your job in a big game.


That said, I can't wait for this guy to be gone.

This offense has been so much better with the Skyy and Toney turds off the menu.

Congrats on doing your job.

Mike Evans was not so easy on the eyes. Go MVS

I can't even remember Skyy catching a ball outside of when he was wide-open in the Super Bowl :doh!::shake:

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