The MVS no call is the worst no call I've ever seen
 

How in the **** do you not call that? I've never ever seen such an obvious penalty by a DB in my life, and I've watched some shitty as corners in my Chiefs fandom.

Just unbelievable

Forgetting the Rams and Saints in the playoffs?

You know it’s bad when…

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Blatant pass interference. Ref gagged at Lambeau.</p>&mdash; Skip Bayless (@RealSkipBayless) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealSkipBayless/status/1731529759811899475?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chiefs get all the calls!

I don't understand what this refs are looking at -- some calls are really hard. That one is not.

Forward progress call was worse.

Ask the Saints. That was worse and the situation was much bigger.

Yet they will receive no discipline, this league is a ****ing joke.

They were afraid to call it after ****ing up earlier in the drive. This shit is ruining the sport.

Repeating ain't for pussies

MVS is such a bad receiver he can't even get obvious PI calls

Didn't you used to be able to challenge defensive PI?

Wonder how much extra cash the refs got in their pockets tonight from the gambling people. 18 point swing for Green Bay on 3-4 calls.

This is the most obvious DPI I've ever seen. Its so obvious it should be shown when teaching pee wee players how NOT to commit the penalty

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is ****ing unbelievable. Just flat out choosing to miss this call…the defensive back was trying to go on a piggy back ride with MVS &amp; it wasn’t called <a href="https://t.co/U9gtgehUGS">pic.twitter.com/U9gtgehUGS</a></p>&mdash; Braiden Turner (@bturner23) <a href="https://twitter.com/bturner23/status/1731531490461135334?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

JFC...

It was an awful no call. I refuse to grovel about missed calls losing games. Play better and don't let it come to that. Loser fan bases complain about refs losing games.

The offense is awful. Full stop. Losing several starters on defense hurt for sure. How many NFL games do you expect to win scoring 19 points though?

Horrific non-call but **** being down by 8 to the Packers. The offense just doesn’t have the playmakers to execute the level of offense we are used to seeing.

How the **** can everyone watching the game see PI except the people paid to see it?

Think we score more than 19 if we get that call, champ.

I do hate seeing refs deciding games like that

They’ll get rewarded and officiate the Super Bowl. Look who got to ref the Super Bowl last year.

Yes for one year and they took it back

Given that MVS was the intended receiver, it was ruled uncatchable.

I could be wrong, but I believe they were trying to score more points on that drive.

Refs suck
 

I hate nfl referees. They ruin the game. It is the away team vs home team vs blind 0 iq referees.

Heh

It wasn't just that call, but that was the most blatant example of their steering that game in the Packers' direction. That was the first game we'd truly been ****ed by the refs since the Brady SB loss.

No it ****ing wasn't. The non PI call was really ****ing bad.

Not the worst ever but pretty ****ing awful. I really hope some of our guys say **** it and get some fines from the post game press conference.

The offense moved the ball pretty well all game.

On the first drive, I think we made a mistake not running ball in the red zone. Those sacks killed the drive.

Second drive, the phantom Creed hold killed the drive.

In the second half, we went:
Touchdown
Touchdown
Punt (missed PI, which was also pretty blatant)
Interception (pick who you want to blame there)
End of game (missed blatant PI)

So really, refs ended 3 drives. Play calling probably killed the first drive. Either Skyy or Mahomes killed one drive.

I’d say A LOT more blame goes to the defense tonight. They gave up extra yards all over the field.

Sometimes calls get missed and sometimes they get called.

We have seen that and far lesser calls against the Chiefs for years. The game against the Raiders in 2017 saw 4 of those late in the game called that were far more egregious.

I'm usually not one to complain about a call or two, but that in isolation is just insanity. I won't say that it cost us the game but between that and some other questionable penalties, it didn't give us a real shot at the end.

Worst this season for sure. The funny part was if the guy had let MVS actually try to catch it he only has a 50% chance to catch lmao


I still say the real key to the L is Mahomes making a poor decision, going away from running that last drive etc.

It was bad. The DPI GB got hosed on and the unnecessary roughness against them were almost as bad.

This officiating crew made so many errors that it isn’t possible to tell what the outcome would have been otherwise.

I assume he meant the forward progress call against the Titans in the playoffs.

When millions of people watching the game see the foul and the people paid to watch for fouls don't, it's hard to argue things are rigged for one reason or another.

With the points the refs took off the board, 19 looks more like 29. Most NFL games can be decided by a slight thumb on the scales on a few key plays. The Packers out played us tonight, but allow us to have first and goal on Mahomes run (Creed non-holding) and call the obvious PI and this is a way different game.

That call wasn't "missed." Nobody in the stadium missed the fact that MVS got tackled before the ball got there. They just decided not to call it.

Exactly

at the same, I saw our defense get worked for the majority of the game.

WTF does that have to do with the Refs not calling a foul the millions of people watching the game saw? Literally everyone thought it was a foul but the people paid to make the call.

I feel pretty confident we would've mucked up the 2 point try anyway. But god damn. That was a horrid call. To be fair, the personal foul hit on Mahomes was a bad call too, but the non-PI had much more sway.

The money was just to juicy for them to pass up. A killing was made on the Chiefs getting screwed

Oh, ok. Thanks for that.

So how does that change your evaluation of the game and how do you advise everyone else who clearly understands its implications to adjust?

The chiefs got 2 bad calls in their favor on that last drive. The late hit out of bounds on mahomes was bullshit and a free 15 yards. Then there was a short pass the receiver went out of bounds well back towards the line of scrimmage and they stopped the clock when the clock should be running in that situation.

The ref probably thought it was uncatchable because it's MVS.

It did, which is why I'm not too broken up over this loss. You can't say we deserved the win anyway the way the Packers dictated the terms of the game.

What we saw from the defense was pretty uncharacteristic for what they’ve been this year.

It happens to every defense, and I’ll assume the injuries had a lot to do with it.

Can’t help but think one or two of those big gains on first don’t happen with Tranquil in there.

I’ll blame the defense for this, but also give them a pass. I’m not giving up on them by any stretch after this.

Even with instant replay, they still suck ass. They ruin the sport. It's amazing we've come this far and they still haven't found a dozen or so people who are good at this.

Edit: nevermind, I only read the second half part. Was just gonna say the Creed "hold" cost us 4 points in the first half.

They didn't want two penalties in a row for the chiefs.

And honestly this is on Andy. No reason to blame the chiefs. We sucked. Unprepared. We are not fixing our problems. We are predictable on offense because they cannot catch.

The ref was brad allen.

I am sure we will get an apology letter from the NFL this week....as if that makes it better

LMAO huh?

Holy shit.

Yes. And the review officials so blatantly refused to over turn any judgment call made them quickly stop doing it.

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Nothing will change.

I almost think the NFL likes the controversy. People talk about it and no one stops watching. The ratings continue to increase.

Want change? Quit watching. Force them to confront the issue.

Is that why they called roughing for hitting Mahomes in bounds, or saying the WR got out to stop the clock when he clearly didn't? All on the same drive? Because they took money to screw the Chiefs?

The referees are just shit.

My evaluation of the game is that the Chiefs played a bad game and the refs blatantly ****ed them. Both things can be true.

Mariota

Happens to every team every week. This call doesn’t define the reason the chiefs lost this game.

Example: A few plays earlier Mahomes was tackled while running for a first down while still inbounds but the Packers were flagged for 15 for a personal foul. That was a garbage call against them.

It was obviously but the refs had their orders.

NFL could have fired a few refs for refusing to overturn blatant non-calls. I believe they prefer the present situation where NFL refs are able to rest their thumb on the scales in many games.

Did not realize that is what you were referring too...I thought you were saying the one with MVS from tonight.

My bad.

Exactly. The crew was awful in the 4th quarter. There were several bad calls and missed calls. To act like it was one sided is just silly. The refs were terrible and we got the short end of the last one.

I understand the no-call with a dozen guys bumping while going up for the hail-Mary in the endzone. But one-on-one with the DB jumping on the receiver's back and putting him in a choke hold is just so blantant and obvious that the refs on that crew should be fined by the league. (they won't be)

Chiefs win by 10 if the Chiefs play Chief Ball (although it might require Skyy Moore do die a horrible death) even with the dog**** officiating.

But the officiating was DOG ****, this was the worst instance of the night but shit officiating was taking me out of the game all night long.

Even worse is they are not allowed to even say they got a letter from the league or they get fined. So nothing happens, it doesn't change anything, and no one even knows. What a sick joke. Bottom line is the defense sucked and got banged up and we suck at scoring in the red zone and we ****ing lost and it sucks.

100% this. It was a terrible no call. It was in no way, shape. or form why we lost the game.

The NFL is steered. It's been known for years and years.

They were not just terrible in the 4th quarter. Earlier in the game KC was flagged on a phantom holding that cost them 4 points. Meanwhile Green Bay got away with blatant hands to the face on their long 4th down play that led to 7 points.

Not even close to the worst no-call. Hell, it probably isn't the worst this week.

^^This...we can cry all we want but both teams got hosed by the refs, its just that the Packers kicked our ass is why the Chiefs lost

Like the Creed hold or the constant GB OL blatant holding

Or the 2001 Raiders

I agree. I gave up hope after that interception.

Exactly. But they will never be punished. Why us that? They're giving the league EXACTLY what they want

Chiefs are a team the league doesn’t like but can’t figure out how to make them go away. Your Raiders is a bundle of sticks team that the the league wants to love but can’t even position themselves to be not reeruned. Go **** yourself.

I want to be mad.

But we didn't deserve to win that game. So ultimately I just can't get there.

Unflagged blatant hands to the face by Green Bay OL on their long 4th down play that led to a touchdown. They even showed it in slow motion and it’s right in the middle of the screen. Gutless NBC guys didn’t say a word.