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Sassy Squatch 12-09-2023 02:19 PM

Ohtani Signs for 10 years/700 Million
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Shohei Ohtani&#39;s deal with the Dodgers is for 10 years and $700 million.</p>&mdash; Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1733579104916492574?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 9, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Franchise 12-09-2023 02:20 PM

Can’t wait for the hate now.

WhawhaWhat 12-09-2023 02:20 PM

Congrats to him. Can't imagine what it feels like knowing you've got $700 million coming guaranteed.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-09-2023 02:21 PM

My ****ing God. That's not a Brinks truck; that's a Brinks convoy.

Pablo 12-09-2023 02:21 PM

Yeeesh.

Still prolly worth it.

DJ's left nut 12-09-2023 02:22 PM

That's unreal. Just completely beyond comprehension.

And he can't even pitch next season. I just cannot understand this one at all.

They have to figure that the marketing side of it will pay for itself. Because lord, how can that deal possibly work out?

George Liquor 12-09-2023 02:22 PM

Dodgers still won't win the WS

DJ's left nut 12-09-2023 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17267258)
Yeeesh.

Still prolly worth it.

For a pitcher with a history of elbow issues and a DH?

Naw, man. Just naw.

That's a MASSIVE overpay.

tredadda 12-09-2023 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 17267254)
Congrats to him. Can't imagine what it feels like knowing you've got $700 million coming guaranteed.

Is it all guaranteed? If it is the Dodgers management needs to be checked out for insanity.

kstater 12-09-2023 02:24 PM

Still done before Bonilla's deal.

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tredadda 12-09-2023 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17267264)
For a pitcher with a history of elbow issues and a DH?

Naw, man. Just naw.

That's a MASSIVE overpay.

No athlete ever was worth $700 million or $70 million a year.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-09-2023 02:25 PM

It's not a financially prudent deal from a $/WAR perspective, even though that stat overly inflates the value of a win, but goddamn, I respect the balls to even ask for that.

kstater 12-09-2023 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17267266)
Is it all guaranteed? If it is the Dodgers management needs to be checked out for insanity.

All MLB contracts are guaranteed

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'Hamas' Jenkins 12-09-2023 02:28 PM

Hans Gruber could have robbed Ohtani and gotten 10 percent more than the value of the bearer bonds at Nakatomi Plaza.

****ing amazing. I hope John McClane is his agent.

Jerm 12-09-2023 02:28 PM

The plucky Dodgers and Yankees making huge moves in hopes of adding to the trophy case is just heartwarming…God you gotta love baseball.

ChiefsCountry 12-09-2023 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17267264)
For a pitcher with a history of elbow issues and a DH?

Naw, man. Just naw.

That's a MASSIVE overpay.

If you figure for him as a DH what 45 million a year. Judge is 40.

Then you got to do the pitching side. **** Jordan Lyles is a 10 to 15 million as a starter. Sonny Gray is a 25 million per year guy.

WhawhaWhat 12-09-2023 02:30 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">start working on those pass rush moves ��<br><br>Imagine being able to do both at an All-Pro level.<br><br>Guy is insane.<br>������</p>&mdash; JJ Watt (@JJWatt) <a href="https://twitter.com/JJWatt/status/1733581825216532726?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 9, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pasta Little Brioni 12-09-2023 02:30 PM

Ridiculous

WhawhaWhat 12-09-2023 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17267264)
For a pitcher with a history of elbow issues and a DH?

Naw, man. Just naw.

That's a MASSIVE overpay.

This is after his 2nd Tommy John surgery. His pitching days are much closer to the end than the beginning.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-09-2023 02:33 PM

Billy, this is Shohei Ohtani. With his combination of pitching and hitting acumen, he is the most unique player in a century of baseball. By all metrics, he should be getting $45 million per year. We can get him for $70,000,000

ghak99 12-09-2023 02:34 PM

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The Franchise 12-09-2023 02:35 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ohtani’s deal with the Dodgers includes “unprecedented deferrals” - the majority of his salary - which was his idea, according to a source. He wanted the team to have flexibility to be as competitive as possible. It’s believed to be the largest contract in sports history.</p>&mdash; Robert Murray (@ByRobertMurray) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByRobertMurray/status/1733580271918973235?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 9, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

displacedinMN 12-09-2023 02:37 PM

he wont even need to move houses

Pablo 12-09-2023 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17267264)
For a pitcher with a history of elbow issues and a DH?

Naw, man. Just naw.

That's a MASSIVE overpay.

You'd know better than I would. I honestly didn't know about his injury history outside of this most recent one

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-09-2023 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17267292)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ohtani’s deal with the Dodgers includes “unprecedented deferrals” - the majority of his salary - which was his idea, according to a source. He wanted the team to have flexibility to be as competitive as possible. It’s believed to be the largest contract in sports history.</p>&mdash; Robert Murray (@ByRobertMurray) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByRobertMurray/status/1733580271918973235?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 9, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ohtani about to be ruined when Weimar-style hyperinflation forces him to load his entire contract in a wheelbarrow to get a loaf of bread.

ThyKingdomCome15 12-09-2023 02:40 PM

Baseball is trash.

FloridaMan88 12-09-2023 02:41 PM

The Dodgers will win a million regular season games only to choke in the playoffs.

Eleazar 12-09-2023 02:42 PM

There's never been a player like him, so this one I kind of understand.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-09-2023 02:46 PM

I bet Mozeliak offered him 5/$125

jerryaldini 12-09-2023 02:47 PM

Soto to the Yankees, Ohtani to the Dodgers, but it's ok because, you know, the Rays made the playoffs, so what are you small markets complaining about?

ChiefsCountry 12-09-2023 02:54 PM

Soto is only signed for one year. It's a nice move but the Yankees gave up a bunch for him without a long term deal.

Jewish Rabbi 12-09-2023 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17267281)
If you figure for him as a DH what 45 million a year. Judge is 40.

Then you got to do the pitching side. **** Jordan Lyles is a 10 to 15 million as a starter. Sonny Gray is a 25 million per year guy.

Judge isn’t a DH

FloridaMan88 12-09-2023 02:56 PM

Arizona only had the 21st highest payroll last season.

LagunaSWana 12-09-2023 02:57 PM

As an Angels' fan, I'm very glad that they didn't put that many eggs in one basket. Of course, they could have traded him before the deadline last season and at least gotten something for him. Might not have been the haul that some wanted, but even a couple of young, talented players would be better than nothing. I would have traded both him and Trout to get as much young talent as possible. Every veteran free agent signing that the Angels have done has been a disaster. Pujols, Rendon, Hamilton, Wells, Matthews Jr, Upton.

ChiefsCountry 12-09-2023 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 17267314)
Judge isn’t a DH

Judge isn't get paid for his glove.

KCJake 12-09-2023 02:58 PM

Geezo...I'm not even sure the numbers matter anymore these days

FloridaMan88 12-09-2023 03:00 PM

Those high California state income taxes will take a bite out of that contract.

Jewish Rabbi 12-09-2023 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17267320)
Judge isn't get paid for his glove.

Not primarily, no, but there is a lot of value in being able to competently play all three outfield positions versus being Kyle Schwarber.

BigRedChief 12-09-2023 03:03 PM

$700 Million over 10 years for a 30-year-old baseball player who still has to recover from his SECOND Tommy John surgery in 5 years. WTF? That makes no sense financially.

lewdog 12-09-2023 03:06 PM

Loser ass Dodgers need another shortened season to win anything.

****ing losers.

dlphg9 12-09-2023 03:08 PM

This will be thought of the worst contract in baseball in probably 3 years. He turns 30 next year.

MarkDavis'Haircut 12-09-2023 03:09 PM

I can't believe he didn't take the Pirates' offer of a renamed bridge and a free parking spot.

notorious 12-09-2023 03:10 PM

His agent had to just throw out an obscene number while holding back his laughter.

Pure insanity.

kstater 12-09-2023 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17267292)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ohtani’s deal with the Dodgers includes “unprecedented deferrals” - the majority of his salary - which was his idea, according to a source. He wanted the team to have flexibility to be as competitive as possible. It’s believed to be the largest contract in sports history.</p>— Robert Murray (@ByRobertMurray) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByRobertMurray/status/1733580271918973235?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 9, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What the hell is the purpose of the luxury tax if teams can just skirt around it like that?

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DJ's left nut 12-09-2023 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17267320)
Judge isn't get paid for his glove.

He's getting paid for being the most prodigious power source in baseball while being able to play average CF, thus opening up DH for another quality hitter.

There's a fairly substantial distinction there.

FloridaMan88 12-09-2023 03:21 PM

The Angels are a dumpster fire franchise, but if Ohtani is so great why couldn’t he at least get them to sniff the playoffs during his time there?

Especially with the expanded playoffs.

Jewish Rabbi 12-09-2023 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17267348)
The Angels are a dumpster fire franchise, but if Ohtani is so great why couldn’t he at least get them to sniff the playoffs during his time there?

Especially with the expanded playoffs.

They would have if Pete started a thread about it

tk13 12-09-2023 03:31 PM

I get it because they're about to make a killing on merch and tickets and just overall attention. But coming off two Tommy Johns there's a risk you're going to be spending $70 million a year on a DH. A great DH no doubt but what a contract.

Pablo 12-09-2023 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 17267330)
Loser ass Dodgers need another shortened season to win anything.

****ing losers.

lew,

How do you really feel about the dodgers??

Perineum Ripper 12-09-2023 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 17267306)
I bet Mozeliak offered him 5/$125

That useless asshole wouldn’t go that high, 5/95 is his best and final offer

Pablo 12-09-2023 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perineum Ripper (Post 17267358)
That useless asshole wouldn’t go that high, 5/95 is his best and final offer

Now that's a lotta walking around money when you're down in Chinatown

ChiefsCountry 12-09-2023 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17267359)
Now that's a lotta walking around money when you're down in Chinatown

Chinatown is where Busch Stadium is actually built on.

Marcellus 12-09-2023 03:40 PM

Epically bad deal, just ridiculously stupid but its the Dodgers, that's what they do.

Megatron96 12-09-2023 03:40 PM

That seems beyond crazy. And I think Ohtani is a generational talent, maybe the best there ever was. But $700 million is just insane.

lewdog 12-09-2023 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17267356)
lew,

How do you really feel about the dodgers??

Losers have an asterisk next to their 2020 "championship."

So haven't won one since 1988!!! That's hilarious. ROFL

RunKC 12-09-2023 03:44 PM

MLB is a poverty league that doesn't have a salary cap.

carcosa 12-09-2023 03:49 PM

I'm just glad we'll finally get to see him in the playoffs. Top of that order is gonna be bonkers. Whether it's a good deal or not isn't my problem

carcosa 12-09-2023 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17267348)
The Angels are a dumpster fire franchise, but if Ohtani is so great why couldn’t he at least get them to sniff the playoffs during his time there?

Especially with the expanded playoffs.

Baseball is funny like that. There's no QB-like position of paramount importance you can focus on, and unlike the NBA, two superstars aren't enough to basicallty guarantee a playoff run.

Megatron96 12-09-2023 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 17267375)
I'm just glad we'll finally get to see him in the playoffs. Top of that order is gonna be bonkers. Whether it's a good deal or not isn't my problem

That’s true, good way to look at it. It’ll be interesting to see how he does in the postseason.

KC_Connection 12-09-2023 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17267348)
The Angels are a dumpster fire franchise, but if Ohtani is so great why couldn’t he at least get them to sniff the playoffs during his time there?

Especially with the expanded playoffs.

That isn’t how baseball works. The Angels were awful outside of two players.

George Liquor 12-09-2023 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17267361)
Chinatown is where Busch Stadium is actually built on.

I think you mean "Crimetown"

WhawhaWhat 12-09-2023 04:38 PM

  1. Mookie Betts
  2. Freddie Freeman
  3. Shohei Ohtani

That is a very tough top of the lineup.

Chief Roundup 12-09-2023 08:27 PM

Ohtani will make more than two entire teams this 2023 season. One of those is the Orioles who had 101 wins and lost in the divisional round of the playoffs.

Rain Man 12-09-2023 08:34 PM

I don't know this guy, but there's no way he's better than Mahomes.

T-post Tom 12-09-2023 08:35 PM

Duck the fodgers. May that franchise die in an HPV/AIDS fire.

|Zach| 12-09-2023 09:56 PM

Well I will just have to bring this new data point to the table for the next union contract negotiations. LMAO

Titty Meat 12-09-2023 10:00 PM

Better build a stadium on the backs of taxpayers for him to play in

Bearcat 12-10-2023 07:26 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A couple people (rightfully) have brought up the franchise tag and salary cap responding to this. And yeah, it&#39;s hard to imagine what a great quarterback would command if football didn&#39;t have a cap and franchise tags. I bet we&#39;d be into nine figures per year by now. <a href="https://t.co/VUrMvcxLim">https://t.co/VUrMvcxLim</a></p>&mdash; Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1733587875885727906?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 9, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ChiefsCountry 12-10-2023 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17267931)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A couple people (rightfully) have brought up the franchise tag and salary cap responding to this. And yeah, it&#39;s hard to imagine what a great quarterback would command if football didn&#39;t have a cap and franchise tags. I bet we&#39;d be into nine figures per year by now. <a href="https://t.co/VUrMvcxLim">https://t.co/VUrMvcxLim</a></p>&mdash; Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1733587875885727906?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 9, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Maybe if the quarterback was also the pass rusher as well. Ohtani is getting paid to hit and be a starting pitcher

DTHOF 12-10-2023 10:06 AM

This is why baseball will never be number one again in America. This contract is something only a few franchises would be able to pay out. In NFL any team would be able to go for any free agent, not baseball.

Pasta Little Brioni 12-10-2023 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17268019)
Maybe if the quarterback was also the pass rusher as well. Ohtani is getting paid to hit and be a starting pitcher

The odds of him holding up as a pitcher are slim to none. You do realize that right?

The Franchise 12-10-2023 04:24 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The interest rate was applied extremely incorrectly, and upon fixing the formula, I got a staggeringly different number. Upon recalculating, the $400M in deferrals goes down to *$129M in present value* based on my hypothetical schedule, bringing the total down AAV down to $42.9M. <a href="https://t.co/fKUdDDTLEg">pic.twitter.com/fKUdDDTLEg</a></p>&mdash; Jon Becker (@jonbecker_) <a href="https://twitter.com/jonbecker_/status/1733855098231566806?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Brody Wa 12-10-2023 08:38 PM

Ohtani shouldn’t be making 25 ••••••• million more dollars than Patrick Mahomes if he’s not pitching.

UteChief 12-10-2023 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17267320)
Judge isn't get paid for his glove.

Judge actually plays pretty damn good defense.

UteChief 12-10-2023 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17269522)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The interest rate was applied extremely incorrectly, and upon fixing the formula, I got a staggeringly different number. Upon recalculating, the $400M in deferrals goes down to *$129M in present value* based on my hypothetical schedule, bringing the total down AAV down to $42.9M. <a href="https://t.co/fKUdDDTLEg">pic.twitter.com/fKUdDDTLEg</a></p>&mdash; Jon Becker (@jonbecker_) <a href="https://twitter.com/jonbecker_/status/1733855098231566806?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Isn’t this basically what the Eagles did with Hurts contract?

chiefzilla1501 12-10-2023 09:17 PM

Ohtani is such a good dude so I can’t hate on him for this. I hate that he went to the dodgers. But one thing that’s real real bad for the dude is the angels are such a toxic franchise. It’s despicable the way they didn’t shut him down as a pitcher. Pretty much his entire time there they ran him into the ground.

His usage was so unsustainable. Maybe with a contender they put him on way more of a pitch count.

The Franchise 12-11-2023 05:01 PM

LMAO this is amazing.

Quote:

In an effort to enable the Dodgers to continue spending around stars Ohtani, Mookie Betts and Freddie Freeman, Ohtani agreed to defer all but $2 million of his annual salary — $68 million of his $70 million per year — until after the completion of the contract. The deferred money is to be paid out without interest from 2034 to 2043.

DRM08 12-11-2023 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTHOF (Post 17268042)
This is why baseball will never be number one again in America. This contract is something only a few franchises would be able to pay out. In NFL any team would be able to go for any free agent, not baseball.

Baseball's problem is that the regular season games are boring, mainly because there are 162 of them. I don't care about baseball until the playoffs. Shorter season in football helps create more urgency & entertainment in the schedule.

Marco Polo 12-11-2023 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17274723)
LMAO this is amazing.

This should break the baseball structure. In no way should this be legal. I'm a huge baseball fan but it really needs to go to the NFL model of revenue sharing.

Sassy Squatch 12-11-2023 05:27 PM

That is incredibly stupid on his part.


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