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kccrow 12-17-2023 12:38 AM

Mock 12/17
 
Going all-in on revamping the passing game here, retaining our lockdown CB, and retooling the DL.

FA Re-Signings
CB La'Jarius Sneed 4y/70.0m
P Tommy Townsend 4y/12.0m
LS James Winchester 3y/4.5m
QB Blaine Gabbert 2y/3.2m
OL Nick Allegretti 1y/2.4m (1.2 hit as 4yQC)

ERFA Tenders
DE Malik Herring
DB Nazeeh Johnson
LB Jack Cochrane
OG Mike Caliendo

FA Acquisitions
WR Marquise Brown (ARZ) 4y/60m
WR Darnell Mooney (CHI) 3y/33m
RB Chase Edmonds (TB) 2y/3.5m
LB Kenneth Murray (LAC) 2y/10.5m
DT Justin Jones (CHI) 2y/14m
DT Jordan Elliott (CLE) 1y/1.2m
DB K'Von Wallace (TEN) 1y/2.3m

Release
WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling, WR Justin Watson, WR Justyn Ross

Other
QB Patrick Mahomes rolls approximately 15.0m of his 2024 Roster Bonus into a signing bonus.

Let Walk
DT Chris Jones, WR Mecole Hardman, LB Drue Tranquill, LT Donovan Smith, S Mike Edwards, RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire, DT Tershawn Wharton, OT Prince Tega Wanogho, LB Willie Gay Jr, RB Jerick McKinnon, TE Blake Bell, WR Richie James, DT Matt Dickerson, TE Jody Fortson, DE Mike Danna, LB Cole Christiansen

Draft
1. TE Ja'Tavion Sanders, Texas (6'4" 243)
2. WR Ja'Lynn Polk, Washington (6'2" 204)
3. DT McKinnley Jackson, Texas A&M (6'2" 325)
4. OT Zion Nelson, Miami (6'5" 316)
5. DT Gabe Hall, Baylor (6'5" 300)
5. DE Brennan Jackson, Washington State (6'4" 264)
7. RB Jacory Croskey-Merritt, New Mexico (5'11" 204)

QB: P. Mahomes, B. Gabbert
RB: I. Pacheco, C. Edmonds, J. Croskey-Merritt
WR: R. Rice, M. Brown, D. Mooney, J. Polk, K. Toney, S. Moore
TE: T. Kelce, J. Sanders, N. Gray
LT: W. Morris, Z. Nelson
LG: J. Thuney, M. Caliendo
OC: C. Humphrey, N. Allegretti
RG: T. Smith
RT: J. Taylor, L. Niang
DE: G. Karlaftis, C. Omenihu, B. Thompson
DT: J. Jones, J. Elliott, G. Hall
NT: M. Jackson, N. Ferrell
DE: F. Anudike-Uzomah, B. Jackson, M. Herring
LB: N. Bolton, K. Murray, L. Chenal, J. Cochrane, C. Jones
CB: L. Sneed, T. McDuffie, J. Williams, J. Watson, N. Jones
DB: J. Reid, B. Cook, C. Conner, K. Wallace, N. Johnson
ST: H. Butker, T. Townsend, J. Winchester

Chris Meck 12-17-2023 08:59 AM

That's a hell of a course correction.

Overall I like it. I'm not sure about both Brown AND Mooney.

But I certainly like either.

I'd be leaning towards keeping Tranquill.

I feel like this plan would be great for '24, but leave us in a pickle re-signing Bolton or Creed in '25.

Chargem 12-17-2023 09:08 AM

I like it as well, other than Murray who I am not a fan of. I would much rather have Gay or Tranquill back than Murray, and its not even close.

I agree with Chris that 2 veteran WRs might be a bit of an over correction, but I would be excited to watch that offense so I am not really sure that's a complaint.

If they were adding two veteran pass catchers on offense, I think I like 1 TE and 1 WR, how would you feel about Schultz instead of Brown or Mooney and then a 1st round WR?

I'd probably also bring Fortson back and carry 4 tight ends, but that is nit picking

duncan_idaho 12-17-2023 09:56 AM

Love the plan but would try to keep Tranquill at that price rather than jumping in on Murray.

JPH83 12-17-2023 10:41 AM

I'm useless at cap stuff but I really like this. You've gone absolutely nuclear on the WR room and DT, and still kept Sneed. That would be a pretty great outcome, in my mind I was letting Sneed walk. Loads of deadwood has been cut too.

I'm not a big fan of Mooney, and I wasn't expecting a TE in R1. I'd still probably just go with Brown and a R1 WR. But actually I like your approach. If we upgraded at WR AND TE that'd be pretty damn solid.

I might go for different guys at DT but again I like finally having some depth there. My obsession is getting in Maurice Hurst.

LT looks sketchy but hard to cover. Yeah, I really like all this.

Couch-Potato 12-17-2023 12:30 PM

Love mocks.

Wasn't expecting 2 vet WRs, but that'd be exciting! If we're spending ~$26m/yr on incoming WRs, I'd wonder what we could've done spending that on a true #1 like (Evans or Adams?) on a 4-yr deal and a RD 1 WR (Coleman or Franklin) on a 5-yr rookie deal. But Pat likes to spread it around so this could work well for us. Significant improvement all around at WR, congrats! Would Rice really be our #1 if we brought in Brown?

Like others, I'd be partial to keeping Tranquil. How do you see Omenihu working into this rotation, noticed he's not a starter and you're keeping him outside?

Love the draft! Top 5 picks are very solid, really like Sanders, Hall, and Nelson. Sanders would be a nice pickup with Kelce to coach him up, heir to the TE#1 position but a lethal weapon as TE#2 moving forward. Reid would have a lot of fun with two stud TEs. Couldn't find much on your last two picks, maybe you can fill us in on those guys?

Nightfyre 12-17-2023 04:04 PM

Did you see Mooney's game-losing drop today? He'd fit right in.

Hoover 12-17-2023 07:21 PM

I'd rather give Mahomes a Mike Evans than Brown and Mooney.

Frankly, so long as Travis is on the roster we don't have a targets justify spending money of two FA WR. The Reid and Mahomes are basically giving Rice the number of targets we have given Hill in the past. And I'm all for that. I think the problem with the approach this season is that the only way you are going to develop someone is you get them targets.

If I'm spending FA money on a WR, it needs to be a guy who Mahomes will target 130 times. Thats Evans. Rice has 75 targets now, that can and should continue to grow.

At 31, I don't think Evans is going to break the bank, which is perfect for the Chiefs.

Couch-Potato 12-17-2023 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 17285810)
Did you see Mooney's game-losing drop today? He'd fit right in.

I like Mooney prob more than most but not sure we can risk him not being the guy we need him to be.

Would be a really solid 3rd WR, though, as long as he's not too expensive.

Mr_Tomahawk 12-17-2023 07:43 PM

Duno anything about the TE and WR we are drafting there…but I love this direction!

kccrow 12-17-2023 08:21 PM

Rice is going to be the #1. Surround him with speed and get another developmental guy. That's what I think should be a priority. Polk can develop and make Mooney expendable after 1 season if you need to. Skyy and Toney can be return guys so the choice is to keep them on rookie deals.

Ja'Tavion Sanders runs like a WR and can learn a year behind Kelce.

Kenneth Murray is a lot better coverage LB than Gay or Tranquill and that's my interest there. Hell, he's just a better LB period.

Someone asked about the last 2 guys. Brennan Jackson is an older propect, 24 iirc and just finished his masters. He flies off the ball though and gets alot of pressures and has good sacks. If you can get him later like that becaue he's older, he's a win in my book. You don't need those guys to be guys you draft for 10 years. You need those guys to contribute. I think he can.

Croskey-Merritt is the best RB you never heard of. LoL. Kids great in pass pro and he's a great runner. He didn't get many opportunities to catch passes, though he's more than capable, because he was always kept in to help protect their shit QB.

Palangi 12-18-2023 12:32 AM

FA Re-Signings
CB La'Jarius Sneed 4y/70.0m
P Tommy Townsend 4y/12.0m
LS James Winchester 3y/4.5m
QB Blaine Gabbert 2y/3.2m
OL Nick Allegretti 1y/2.4m (1.2 hit as 4yQC)
OL Prince Tego-Wanohgo 2y/3.5m

ERFA Tenders
DE Malik Herring
DB Nazeeh Johnson
LB Jack Cochrane

FA Acquisitions
WR Marquise Brown (ARZ) 4y/60m
DT Javon Kinlaw (SF) 3y/33m
WR Quez Watkins (PHI) 2y/8m
KR/PR Devin Duvernay (BAL) 3y/5m

Release
WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling, WR Justin Watson

TRADE
Chris Jones and Skyy Moore to Atlanta for the 11th pick and a third rounder.

Other
QB Patrick Mahomes rolls approximately 15.0m of his 2024 Roster Bonus into a signing bonus.

Let Walk
DT Chris Jones, WR Mecole Hardman, LB Drue Tranquill, LT Donovan Smith, RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire, DT Tershawn Wharton, RB Jerick McKinnon, TE Blake Bell, WR Richie James, DT Matt Dickerson, TE Jody Fortson, DE Mike Danna, LB Cole Christiansen

Draft
1. WR Malik Nabers, LSU (6’1” 200)
1. DT T’Vondre Sweat, Texas (6'4" 350)
2. TE Cade Stover, Ohio State (6'5" 255)
3. S Bud Clark, TCU (6'2" 200)
3. RB Will Shipley, Clemson (6’ 205)
4. OT Gerald Mincey, Tennessee (6’6” 327)
5. DT Gabe Hall, Baylor (6'5" 300)
5. OL Zion Nelson, Miami (6’5” 320)
7. DE Brennan Jackson, Washington State (6'4" 264)

QB: P. Mahomes, B. Gabbert
RB: I. Pacheco, W. Shipley, D. Prince
WR: R. Rice, M. Brown, M. Nabers, Q. Watkins, D. Duvernay, J. Ross
TE: T. Kelce, C. Stover, N. Gray
LT: W. Morris, G Mincey
LG: J. Thuney, Z. Nelson
OC: C. Humphrey, N. Allegretti
RG: T. Smith, D. Kinnard
RT: J. Taylor, PTW

DE: G. Karlaftis, C. Omenihu, B. Thompson
DT: J Kinlaw, G. Hall, M Herring
NT: T Sweat, N. Ferrell
DE: F. Anudike-Uzomah, B. Jackson, T Jones
LB: N. Bolton, W Gay, L. Chenal, J. Cochrane, C. Jones
CB: L. Sneed, T. McDuffie, J. Williams, J. Watson, N. Jones
DB: J. Reid, B. Cook, C. Conner, B Clark, N. Johnson
ST: H. Butker, T. Townsend, J. Winchester,

Hoover 12-18-2023 07:24 AM

we are not getting dick for Jones. We are not tagging him. We are not trading him. he will be a free agent

O.city 12-18-2023 08:15 AM

I'd rather keep Gay at this point. He's playing well and I think there's something to the fact of the mentality he brings to the team.

raybec 4 12-18-2023 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Palangi (Post 17287285)
FA Re-Signings
CB La'Jarius Sneed 4y/70.0m
P Tommy Townsend 4y/12.0m
LS James Winchester 3y/4.5m
QB Blaine Gabbert 2y/3.2m
OL Nick Allegretti 1y/2.4m (1.2 hit as 4yQC)
OL Prince Tego-Wanohgo 2y/3.5m

ERFA Tenders
DE Malik Herring
DB Nazeeh Johnson
LB Jack Cochrane

FA Acquisitions
WR Marquise Brown (ARZ) 4y/60m
DT Javon Kinlaw (SF) 3y/33m
WR Quez Watkins (PHI) 2y/8m
KR/PR Devin Duvernay (BAL) 3y/5m

Release
WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling, WR Justin Watson

TRADE
Chris Jones and Skyy Moore to Atlanta for the 11th pick and a third rounder.

Other
QB Patrick Mahomes rolls approximately 15.0m of his 2024 Roster Bonus into a signing bonus.

Let Walk
DT Chris Jones, WR Mecole Hardman, LB Drue Tranquill, LT Donovan Smith, RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire, DT Tershawn Wharton, RB Jerick McKinnon, TE Blake Bell, WR Richie James, DT Matt Dickerson, TE Jody Fortson, DE Mike Danna, LB Cole Christiansen

Draft
1. WR Malik Nabers, LSU (6’1” 200)
1. DT T’Vondre Sweat, Texas (6'4" 350)
2. TE Cade Stover, Ohio State (6'5" 255)
3. S Bud Clark, TCU (6'2" 200)
3. RB Will Shipley, Clemson (6’ 205)
4. OT Gerald Mincey, Tennessee (6’6” 327)
5. DT Gabe Hall, Baylor (6'5" 300)
5. OL Zion Nelson, Miami (6’5” 320)
7. DE Brennan Jackson, Washington State (6'4" 264)

QB: P. Mahomes, B. Gabbert
RB: I. Pacheco, W. Shipley, D. Prince
WR: R. Rice, M. Brown, M. Nabers, Q. Watkins, D. Duvernay, J. Ross
TE: T. Kelce, C. Stover, N. Gray
LT: W. Morris, G Mincey
LG: J. Thuney, Z. Nelson
OC: C. Humphrey, N. Allegretti
RG: T. Smith, D. Kinnard
RT: J. Taylor, PTW

DE: G. Karlaftis, C. Omenihu, B. Thompson
DT: J Kinlaw, G. Hall, M Herring
NT: T Sweat, N. Ferrell
DE: F. Anudike-Uzomah, B. Jackson, T Jones
LB: N. Bolton, W Gay, L. Chenal, J. Cochrane, C. Jones
CB: L. Sneed, T. McDuffie, J. Williams, J. Watson, N. Jones
DB: J. Reid, B. Cook, C. Conner, B Clark, N. Johnson
ST: H. Butker, T. Townsend, J. Winchester,

You can't trade Jones unless you tag him and adding Skyy Moore is more likely to reduce the return than enhance it. Mr 2 targets a game isn't on anyone's short list of wants.

O.city 12-18-2023 09:06 AM

Josh Uche would be a great FA Aquisition.

Palangi 12-18-2023 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 17287405)
You can't trade Jones unless you tag him and adding Skyy Moore is more likely to reduce the return than enhance it. Mr 2 targets a game isn't on anyone's short list of wants.

He’s a throw in as they believe they can salvage him


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