Biggest Veach Miscue: Clark or Taylor
 

Taylor by a mile.

Well Clark was a trade.... So....

Taylor because he wasn’t a trade

I fixed the question, ****ers.

Clark helped us win 2 Super Bowls, and played in another

I’m glad he made the trade. Wouldn’t change it

At least Veach never pretended to go to Belize

Clark helped us win a SB at least.

Let's give Taylor the chance to show his bones in the postseason. His regular season performance has been very regular season Clark like.

I think Taylor will look like an entirely different player next season. He got called out week 1 and has been targeted ever since.

Paid a RT 80 million dollars. Just unbelievable.

I hope an entire offseason fixes him. I think the biggest issue with Taylor this year was him getting called for what he’s always done. That’s thrown him off and he can’t seem to recover in game or in season. Next year will be the year where we can better judge him.

If you take away the pre-snap penalties, which were heavily tilted to the first part of the season as the NFL tried to make an example out of Taylor, he hasn’t been a bad right tackle. Nice thread to overreact to a false start penalty.

He’s been a drive killer all year.

Valid question.

Skyy Moore>>>

I Belize you are correct.

Clark helped us win super bowls. Taylor has been an unreal level bust

For what it’s worth Clark only showed his value in the playoffs. Let’s see what Taylor does in the playoffs. So far he hasn’t justified the contract.

I hope the mods never allow Crave to change his name again so he can wear the worst player on the team for all eternity

I was thinking the question of biggest miscue was between Toney or Skyy

Toney had a key role in the Super Bowl win. That contest isn't even close.

Clark helped win a ring.

Jawaan Taylor is part of an O line that has kept Mahomes one of the least sacked qbs in football

Protecting Mahomes is worth every false start and hold incurred.

**** Frank Clark

True but he has also been the main reason we have lost games this year. And well that just happened

Why is Toney not on this list?

Not a big contract.

Belize

We traded picks for this piece of shit.

I'm not sure what's so hard to understand about WINNING A ****ING SUPER BOWL.

He was also a huge part of the SB win.

The answer appears to be Kadarius Toney

Taylor, not close. Clark did things in big games. Taylor is a fat tub who sucks.

So many reeruned takes... We would have had OBJ or Taylor for the same amount of money. We were signing one of them. This place would be in a worse frenzy if we would have rolled into the season with a rookie left tackle and Andrew Wylie, but again, the revisionist are reeruned. Taylor's pass win rate makes it worth it, and half the penalties are plain bullshit.

Good thing they didn't give him an $80 million contract.

As we sit here laughing at the Bengals for signing Orlando Brown, the Jaguars are laughing at the Chiefs for signing Jawaan Taylor. He was beaten badly all day today.

Or we could have Wanya Morris at RT...

He's not been a good signing. He might've been the best we could get, so fair enough there's, but there's no way the level of performance comes close to justifying the salary. It's not just the penalties, he's getting beaten. He's been an average, maybe marginally above average pass blocker, an awful run blocker and he's paid like a top 5 RT.

Mahomes never takes sacks.

Sacks are more of a QB stat than anytime

We could have signed a RT for...you know...less than 20 million a year. Wylie got 6M a year. There isnt much of a difference between the two so far.

When Taylor has a few costly penalties at critical times in the playoffs they’ll be no denying it.

Taylor is easily the worst move he's made his entire time here.

Taylor just doing what he did all of his career, it's been a poi and it's now in his head big time.

Gotta love CP… defending Super Bowl champs secure a road win that puts them two games up in the division & we need to attack the GM immediately after the game. Come on folks, give it at least a day before you start posting more negative bullshit.

Hey….. it was a in game thread, buster.

Might be time to reevaluate your life choices if you’re going to base your outlook on the GDT. :p

and who at lefT? OBJ isn't as good as Taylor, not even close? Our O-line is better this year... My God, think about it...

LMAO Blaine Gabbert would be starting if we had Morris and Wylie starting the year. The thread would have been Our Tackles Suck thread and you, would have been leading the charge...

If you just keep repeating something it doesn't make it true

as you set up your pray shrine hoping for it to take place

Is Taylor twice as good as OBJ? Because that's how he's getting paid. For a lesser position.

So, your actual take is we should have started the season with our starting tackles being Wylie and Morris? For the record, is that it?

LMAO... RT is nearly, if not the same importance, than LT in today's NFL. Especially in the West with Bosa and Crosby, primarily lining up on our Right side. Again, you would have rather paid OBJ to be on our left side and kept Wylie for the $8 mil a year? Or are you in the same camp that we should have started the season with Morris and Wylie as our starters?

The WR room.

If we're going by hindsight I would rather have signed OBJ to be the LT and started Wanya at RT. Then I would have used the saved money to get a WR so that I don't have to see Toney lose games and raise Mahomes interception numbers on simple plays.

Just really frustrating they let the most electric receiver to ever lace them up walk and we are paying a right tackle and left guard enormous money. Im all for protecting Patrick but those are not premier positions.

Is OP snorting Oxy?

I didn't even like OBJ but if you're asking me if a LT for 31m guaranteed or a RT for 60 guaranteed, the choice is obvious.

and yet you keep trying.

He can’t afford that. Probably crushed up some gas station penis pills and snorted those.

But what Ive said is true...or at least has became evident as this season trudges on

No he won't. Pederson knows who he chose not to sign.;)

This. Half of these garbage QB's think they can hold the ball for 5 minutes on dropbacks.

Much of what he says is coming true. Its your side that has been mostly wrong this season, which is unusual. :shrug:

Paying the LT who couldn't stop a speed rush to save his life and also was responsible for getting Mahomes hurt?

That's a bold strategy

Gee, it's like sometimes the cards don't always fall your way.

Who knew?

I didn't like either one of them. Didn't like OBJ as our LT and dont like Taylor as the RT. I was ok with paying Taylor what he got if he converted over to LT which is what we expected.

But again, if you had to make a decision, who is better OBJ at LT at 31mil + whoever we get for the 30mil saved. Or Taylor at RT for 60mil guaranteed, which are you taking?

Which would you rather have?

OBJ + Jakobi Meyers for $52mil guaranteed

Or

OBJ + Hopkins for $41mil guaranteed

Or

Jawaan Taylor for 60mil guaranteed?

Or he could be looking into the future and realizing they can’t afford signing Taylor to a huge contract knowing that Josh Allen (their JA) is having a career year and will be a huge priority to sign as will Lawrence.

Is your OBJ contract based on what Cincy gave him or what KC offered him?

Yeah giving Orlando this contract would have been a disaster LMAO

This.

Although Taylor setting the single season penalty record… he’s just 6 away… would make Veach’s decision to make him the second highest paid RT in football look even worse.

What Cinci gave him. You can look back at the OBJ contract thread. I was NEVER in favor of making him anywhere close to the highest paid tackle. What Cinci gave him was fair value for his talent level.

Not defending Taylor, but that is not a completely fair assessment based on the fact that he’s been targeted by the league because of that Collinsworth comment despite other RTs doing the same thing.

Then your comparison doesn’t work as KC was never signing OBJ for what Cincy gave him. That died the moment KC lifted his tag and he found out exactly what the league thought of him.

Ok, give him 31.1mil guaranteed then.


Regardless, 80mil for Taylor was wayyy too much given how he's played. It's just wild to be in a position where a player commits a penalty so much, it's accepted and the blame is in the ref for the 5% of the time they call it. Dude should have adjusted after he got 10 penalties his rookie year. But instead here we are, with him committing the same penalties except now they stall our offense which is already having a hard time finding footing.

And I can agree with you on what they are paying him vs producing. I am not going to say that all of his penalties are a product of the refs and he should have adjusted by now. He hasn’t and I am willing to give him an offseason to fix it. At the same time, if his alignment was such an issue why has Andy and Heck not fixed it either? I also am willing to acknowledge that at least the beginning of the season he had a target on his back.

Officials are pretty much letting his alignment issues go. He only has 2 penalties off that this year and I think they both came in week 1. The issue with the alignment is moreso it's forcing Trey Smith to have to block a bigger area and he's not good at that. He's more of a phone booth mauler type blocker and that's why he's being beat so often this year.

Poll fail. No go **** yourself option.

I've been told that Taylor still should make the pro bowl, or even the all pro team this year because he got a big contract from our favorite team.

The real significant issue is that spending so much money on a right tackle probably precluded us from signing Hopkins as a wide receiver. And that has been a disaster.

Haven't you heard? Their only options were Wylie or Taylor. There are evidently no other RTs they could have signed or drafted. McGlinchey or McCgary, or any draft picks, were never a viable option.

McGlinchey has 9 penalties year, 5 sacks given up and is terrible in pass pro.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Offensive lineman responsible for the highest % of their team&#39;s allowed pressure:<br>1. DEN OT Mike McGlinchey (35.1%)<br>2. DAL OT Terrence Steele (30.4%)<br>3. CIN OT Orlando Brown Jr (29.7%)<br>4. KC OT Donovan Smith (29.3%)<br>5. PIT OT Dan Moore Jr (25.9%)<br>6. CHI OT Darnell Wright (24.5%)</p>&mdash; Arjun Menon (@arjunmenon100) <a href="https://twitter.com/arjunmenon100/status/1730265459952410881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 30, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He's been way worse than Taylor