Off-season WR possibilities
 

Seeing a lot of teams with sub .500 records with WRs that need to get with Mahomes.

Who is available and who would you like to see us pursue to go with Rice and Watson.

Tyreek Hill

Mike Evans or ODB would be the guys I would target. I wouldn't be offended by Michael Pittman Jr either.

[QUOTE=Reerun_KC;17295899]Seeing a lot of teams with sub .500 records with WRs that need to get with Mahomes.

Who is available and who would you like to see us pursue to go with Rice and Watson.[/QUOTE]

Why are you listing Justin Watson as if he is some kind of building block?!

Bobby Sippio

[QUOTE=MahomesMagic;17295905]It’s CP. I can do what I want.

I wouldn’t mind Evans or Pittman Jr.

Hardman and James are our only UFA WR..... :bolt:

Tee Higgins would seem to be the best available.

I think Higgins is gonna get tagged and they try it one more time with Burrow, Chase and Higgins. Boyd probably walks.

Also would have no issues with Boyd. I think Rice goes into next season as the #1 so a player like Boyd would be a solid #2 while KC attacks WR and TE in the draft.

Just gimme a high draft pick and a young vet who both have speed, greasy fast speed is what we need

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We HAVE to do both. Because if we draft a guy and he turns out to be Skyy Moore or Mecole Hardman we are ****ed. We need to know. Not project. We need the ****ING KNOW that we are getting...a dude. Sign a vet and draft a high ceiling guy and leggo.

Trade and pay a guy. Over pay, whatever

[QUOTE=MahomesMagic;17295905]He's under contract for next season and is a very good 5th WR.

For sure, we need to look a whole lot more like the Reek and Sammy track team... and a whole lot less like, whatever the hell it currently is

What Chiefs playoffs do you want to see this year

[I]DJay23;17295980]

He's under contract for next season and is a very good 5th WR



5th WR's don't see the field much.

Except on KC.

Yup Watson is the only WR outside of Rice that Mahomes trusts and he's cheap.

He's fine as a depth receiver that gets a couple targets a game

Saw it mentioned on a Browns site that Cooper could be a cap casualty.

No on Boyd. We need a number wideout who can open up the field. Not a slot guy like Boyd.

KC had big holes at both tackles spot, so they tried the over pay, whatever to make sure they locked up their guy.

Man, you've never heard such whining...

they need to do something drastic. I would love Mike Evans and somebody else, pittman, draft pick whatever.

Even if they have to let Chris Jones walk to afford it, Mahomes needs playmakers that can ****ing play. We have like 2 guys at WR that even belong in the NFL and one of them is a solid 4th or 5th guy.

I’d be very happy with Pittman and I think Ridley can be a better fit than we think… maybe get just enough of a discount

I don’t love the idea of Mooney although have a bad feeling he will be high on our list. But if we got him for relatively cheap and we draft a stud, holy shit this pass offense becomes bonkers good.

we're also going to need another running back that can play. Pacheco can't play all of the snaps and McKinnon is getting up there in age.

I like Calvin Ridley but I would think he will go to the highest bidder. He’s already 29 years old but he is still playing on his rookie deal. He’s never got paid yet. This is his only chance to get a nice deal, he is not going to take a discount. Maybe Curtis Samuel from the Commanders or Tyler Boyd from Bengals would fit right in and not costs too much.

Yeah I'm not into Mooney at all, unless we've somehow snagged another guy in FA. I think the FA pick up needs to be a notch above him. Then it's 2 WRs in the draft.

What about Jack Shit?

I don't think either hit FA now.

I’d take Pittman but I think you’re paying for elite and that’s not likely to happen

If I couldn’t get a super high end guy, I’d sign a mid tier vet and keep drafting

Ridley I think has a good chance to hit the open market. If the Jaguars don’t resign Ridley, they will owe the Falcons a 2024 3rd round pick, but if they do resign him, they will owe the Falcons a 2024 2nd round pick instead.

Tag and trade CJ to the Bears for a return that includes DJ Moore.

They aren't going to let him go.

Ridley is older. Veach ain’t big on money to older players

Mike Evan’s free agent.

Exactly what we need

Chiefs vs CP ALL-STARS?

Unfortunately Mooney probably checks a lot of boxes. It just feels like we’re just doing Reid tree things with this.

My super-short list:

Darnell Mooney (27)
Curtis Samuel (28)

both will know a good chunk of the offensive scheme.

My short-list additions:
Marquise Brown (27)
Gabriel Davis (25)
K.J. Osborn (27)
Donovan Peoples-Jones (25)
Quez Watkins (26)
Laviska Shenault (26)

I don't see Veach signing Evans at 31, Ridley at 30, or Higgins or Pittman for the big-money deals they'll likely command. Could be wrong, but it's not his norm.

I like the first two.

Don't see Gabe Davis being a great idea as he is basically a slightly better MVS.

Donovan Peoples-Jones or Watkins would ok if price was right but just limited vert guys.

Second list isn’t ideal. Gabe Davis and dpj are the same mistake prone inconsistent guys we want to get rid of, and Hollywood feels like just a better version of inconsistent Mvs. All these guys are tough sells but could be an ok sell if we make an aggressive move in the draft.

None of it is ideal, but that's kind of the nature of free agency. I think everyone will come away severely disappointed if they are banking on free agency to solve all of our woes. I'll be happy if we can at least get a consistent slot WR. I think those are there. I doubt that we are getting a stud to line up across from Rice unless Veach wows us with an out-of-character play. I think he'll try to get that #2 guy in the draft, which he should.

I'll be thrilled if we can get Mooney or Samuel and add a guy like Troy Franklin in the draft. If we can also get another decent FA like Peoples-Jones to help the rookie curve, great.

CP all stars would go 5-12 at best and each year. Most here didnt want Kelce.

I like Mooney and Samuel as targets. Both would look better in KC than their current teams.

I don’t think mahomes or the fans will let veach sleep if they sell in half rated prospects. Guys like dpj and have Davis are the same inconsistent guys we have, and Samuel feels like just a better utility guy. I feel like their focus will be on consistency. I tend to think Mooney is the move because he won’t break the bank and it sends the message that they’re serious. I also wouldn’t rule out a lot of movement in the free agent market as a lot of teams’ cap realities become very real.

Ultimately I think the move is a Mooney like FA and aggressive move in the draft. The alt being an aggressive move in free agency and semi aggressive in the draft.

Hard to say what happens bc guys usually come available when teams do cut downs (CC Amari Cooper).

I think we can all agree Richie James ain't coming back. He publicly said he wanted to be cut.

Mooney would be a decent replacement for him. I also really like KJ Osborn to be that guy we thought Skyy would be. He's about the same size with good speed and can block. 3 years as a starter and will have 600 yards every year despite Cousins being hurt.

Only 9 drops in 236 targets over his 3 years as a starter.

I think the Chiefs have enough options in the jag pool. They need to be shopping for an elite deep threat.

If they were jags we'd be cruising to the first seed.

Jags would be a marked improvement.

They are jags that have dicks for hands.

They're not even close to jags.

Kennan Allen is probably cut, I wouldn’t mind him

Love the talent but based on his recent injury history we would be adding another WR that you are constantly wondering when he will be available.

If we got him for 10 or less that might be worth the trouble but based on the fact that Kelce is now near the end and also beat up all the time I would hope we had something more dependable as a FA signing.

I suspect Allen would be load managed heavily on a KC squad.

For the right price I definitely would not mind Allen as a solid reliable receiver in the mold of a better JJSS.

It would have to be a “come cheap and try to squeeze out something” kinda thing.

I’m a go trade for an elite weapon and pay him so I don’t fit in around here

Unless KC tags and trades a player I don’t know if they will have enough draft capital to get anyone elite. Plus if this draft is deep at WR, then they might want to use multiple picks to attack the position while bringing in solid vet receivers.

You're welcome to your opinion, but they're not gonna cut bait on Toney or Moore yet. They have the lower end of the chart mostly supplied.

The focus should be on a high end deep threat.

Mike Williams. They can't afford to lose Keenan.

Jones is walking. That's the deal he arranged. He wont be here.

Do not care. Dude showed his ass. Bye - bye Chris. Just hope we can get something for him.

They're gonna need that speed WR to replace what MVS does. Maybe that's Mecole. Not sure who could do that in FA aside from Hollywood Brown

Need guys who catch the ball and run good routes. Major problems in both areas with the current group of KC receivers.

Calvin ****ing Ridley please.

Trade for Brandon Aiyuk and draft Adonai Mitchell at the bottom of the first. Aiyuk is only 25 and would immediately be a WR1 that can stretch the field that we’ve been desperately lacking thus season.

Mitchell would provide depth on the outside, and both would allow us to move Rice to the slot where he can catch and run and do what he does best.

Add another mid-round pick and likely a cheap vet and this offense will do a 180.

But what about Skyy?

Marcus Mariota

Tyler Lockett will probably be available and not too costly

Personally disappointed that Hardman got almost zero deep run. Our deep threats are hot garbage. If nothing else Hardmans at lease faster than anyone he’s lined up against. MVS doesn’t really seem to pull away. And if he does he runs straight to the next guy.

Stop wanting slot/possession type receivers. This current iteration of offense reminds me of the old dink and dunk days of Alex Smith. We need field stretchers, YAC guys, burners who can maximize Mahomes’ capabilities. I’m not seeing any potential free agents who fit this mold however and we’ll end up crossing our fingers of getting lucky in the draft once again. Why Veach didn’t want to pay Tyreek so Mahomes would have him while both in their prime years is beyond me.

Would love to have him on the cheap. Lockett as the vet,with Aiyuk, Adonai Mitchell, and another stud mid-rounder would be an overhaul of this WR corp the likes of our 2021 o-line overhaul.

The only answer is tee Higgins. Veach will figure it out with the money. He’s the guy the chiefs need.

They aren't going to spend that much $$$.

We have had the cheapest WR room in the NFL this year.

I get what you’re saying but I don’t know mahomes is that kind of guy anymore. I want a target monster on the outside. Agree we don’t need slow possession guys which is why we got rid of juju. But man I just want a guy who is athletic and quick enough, but just knows how to run routes and use his body on the outside. Pittman and Ridley aren’t world beaters, but they are these kind of guys without being slow.

I don’t think flour issue has been slow plodders. Our biggest issue is we have so many guys who break loose for a few big plays but are otherwise invisible for much of the game. We have too many of these guys

Deebo

And that has to change and everyone knows it. If Lockett is cheap, you can afford him and Aiyuk if Jones is gone.

If you trade for Brandon Aiyuk, you don’t have a first round pick.

Trade for Jefferson and sign Higgins.

That's not even close to true. We are 18th in spending on wr cap this year.

And?

Which tells me it won’t be that way next year. When Veach knew the O-line was a yuge problem he “fixed” it and I expect the same for the WR issue. That might include signing a high-priced dude like Higgins.

I think it was addressing someone’s comment that you can trade for aiyuk then take a wr in the first. Can’t do both at the same time.

And you don’t have the draft pick at the bottom of the first round that gets you Adonai Mitchell which was the other part of his overhaul plan?

You don’t have to give up your first if Jones or Sneed are part of that trade. Aiyuk will be on his fifth year option next year and a tag and trade (while with Jones will be harder) is still a possibility.