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BossChief 01-26-2024 12:26 AM

LNBS: Will KC draft a QB earlier than we think?
 
Andy had McNabb and drafted:

Kevin Kolb in the 2nd round.
AJ Feeley in the 5th.
Kafka in the 4th.
Nick Foles in the 3rd.

I wonder if Veach and Andy will use a mid rounder on a QB in the next couple drafts.

I wouldn’t hate it at a max of a 4th round investment if the right guy falls, but I sure would be pissed if we used a 2 or 3 on one.

RollChiefsRoll 01-26-2024 12:31 AM

**** NO, MAHOMES WILL QUARTERBACK THE CHIEFS UNTIL THE END OF TIME

Bowser 01-26-2024 12:32 AM

Not impossible, but it kind of seems like they've got a crush on Chris Oladokun. I wouldn't be terribly shocked if he made it to QB2 next season, maybe.

If Andy holds true to form in his time in KC, he'll go find a Trevor Siemian type of vet for next year (Gabbert is terribad) and let Oladokun simmer one more season.

DRM08 01-26-2024 01:09 AM

Need someone other than Gabbert. But the team also has plenty of other spots that need attention, so I am not sure they want to use a Draft pick on the QB room.

Jamie 01-26-2024 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17363466)
Andy had McNabb and drafted:
Kevin Kolb in the 2nd round.
AJ Feeley in the 5th.
Kafka in the 4th.
Nick Foles in the 3rd.

Kolb was taken a couple years after they lost the Super Bowl and it was clear that McNabb really wasn't a top tier QB. Kafka was taken in the offseason they traded McNabb, and Foles was taken after year 2 of over-30 retread Mike Vick.

So, to answer the question, no.

Chief Pagan 01-26-2024 01:13 AM

You are supposed to draft a QB in the third round. Play them in some meaningless games, and then trade them to a sucker franchise for at least a first round pick.

Belinda Veaze needs to get this ball rolling.

Why Not? 01-26-2024 02:08 AM

Long couple days until Sunday. Try to get some sleep.

jerryaldini 01-26-2024 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 17363499)
Long couple days until Sunday. Try to get some sleep.

LMAO

Mephistopheles Janx 01-26-2024 02:21 AM

There is zero chance they draft a QB short of someone they project going in rounds 2/3 falling to the 5/6/7 rounds. It would be strictly a value pick.

balzac 01-26-2024 04:48 AM

I can't see them doing it in the next several years. They will want to use every draft pick to plug holes to maximize their chances to win championships with Mahomes.

ThyKingdomCome15 01-26-2024 04:52 AM

Contract AIDS and kill yourself pronto!

Wisconsin_Chief 01-26-2024 05:45 AM

Nah. There will always be Blaine Gabberts out there and undrafted projects to tinker around with. That 3rd/4th round pick is far too valuable for roster building, especially this year when we have limited picks.

MVChiefFan 01-26-2024 05:49 AM

I have no problem with the “draft and develop a QB, then trade them to a desperate franchise” scenario. The issue I have is, Veach drafts so well from rounds 1-7, I don’t know that I ever want to waste a pick on a QB. We’re not drafting one to compete, that’s for certain.

mrbiggz 01-26-2024 05:50 AM

We can likely get Jason Bean as an undrafted free agent as a developmental wide receiver.

I saw that he had one of the fastest runs last year and it intrigued me.

AussieChiefsFan 01-26-2024 06:01 AM

Nah man

TLO 01-26-2024 06:17 AM

Doubtful.

When the time comes, draft his replacement like the Packers did with Love and let him sit and get ready for a couple years.

Thankfully we don't have to worry about that for like, 25 years or something.

RealSNR 01-26-2024 07:00 AM

I was hoping he'd go the 90s Packers route and draft backups as future draft pick investments, but apparently that's not the case, and he values just winning the games we need to win should Mahomes go down rather than develop guys for the future.

Which I'm fine with, I guess. It's not as exciting, but it gets the job done.

chiefzilla1501 01-26-2024 07:54 AM

No but if we’re going to pay a good amount for Blaine gabbert, we can certainly do much better. For as many great moves as we make, we’ve gotta start picking up free agents we like, and not just ones recommended by fellow coaches and players.

kccrow 01-26-2024 07:56 AM

No, but I don't discount them picking one up with one of those two 5ths.

Easy 6 01-26-2024 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17363586)
No, but I don't discount them picking one up with one of those two 5ths.

Thats as far as I'd be willing to go, QB simply doesn't need to be a priority yet

BigRedChief 01-26-2024 08:19 AM

**** that. Just keep going with the aging veterans back ups. We have got productive players in the 4th round or later.

wazu 01-26-2024 08:47 AM

This question is about the 2040 draft, correct?

Dante84 01-26-2024 08:52 AM

I don't think Bronze is eligible for the draft yet, unfortunately.

Titty Meat 01-26-2024 09:22 AM

Huh?

O.city 01-26-2024 09:25 AM

No. Would be the dumbest move to make.

He did it in Philly and everyone wants to do the "draft and develop then trade QB".

Issue with that is he has to actually play. If that happens here, we're ****ed. So no thanks.

Marcellus 01-26-2024 09:25 AM

Put down the crack pipe dude.

ROYC75 01-26-2024 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17363603)
**** that. Just keep going with the aging veterans back ups. We have got productive players in the 4th round or later.

This.

kcfan75 01-26-2024 09:48 AM

Gabbert hasn't been the same since Suh threw him all over the field in 2009.

ChiTown 01-26-2024 09:51 AM

Not a Gabbert fan, like at all. I'd rather have a 39 yr old Joe Flacco :shrug:

ROYC75 01-26-2024 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcfan75 (Post 17363693)
Gabbert hasn't been the same since Suh threw him all over the field in 2009.

What?


Like, when has he not sucked ?

ROYC75 01-26-2024 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrbiggz (Post 17363530)
We can likely get Jason Bean as an undrafted free agent as a developmental wide receiver.

I saw that he had one of the fastest runs last year and it intrigued me.

If Bean wants to play pro ball, he better learn to catch the ball well and run routes.

Yes, He can fly down the field.

FloridaMan88 01-26-2024 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17363466)
Andy had McNabb

That’s the reason Andy kept drafting QB’s in Philly.

kcfan75 01-26-2024 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 17363700)
What?

Like, when has he not sucked ?

College, but he probably had the best TE tandem in CFB history(Coffman and Rucker)

warpaint* 01-26-2024 10:28 AM

It is literally the only position you can bank that won’t be drafted until rounds 6-7 if at all anytime soon. They will resign Gabbert or another veteran at a similar price point. Take your pick:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-age...trending-pages

Someone would have to fall further than is reasonably foreseeable for it to go any other way.

BossChief 01-26-2024 10:47 AM

I’m surprised some of you would be so mad at spending a 4th or 5th on a QB.

SurroundedByMorons 01-26-2024 10:48 AM

To make this insane logic leap, you have to place McNabb in the same tier as Mahomes. And that, my friend, is something special to even consider.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-26-2024 10:48 AM

The ****? Just a LITTLE bit of difference between Mahomes and ****ing McNabb ROFL

FloridaMan88 01-26-2024 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17363819)
I’m surprised some of you would be so mad at spending a 4th or 5th on a QB.

For what purpose… to sit out as a third string/practice squad QB?

The Chiefs have too many needs to waste a draft pick.

RunKC 01-26-2024 11:04 AM

Jets will end up cutting Zach Wilson after they get no trade offers. That's who they should bring in on the cheap.

SurroundedByMorons 01-26-2024 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17363864)
Jets will end up cutting Zach Wilson after they get no trade offers. That's who they should bring in on the cheap.

What would be the upside to this move?

BossChief 01-26-2024 01:08 PM

It’s not about the difference between Mahomes and McNabb. It’s about having a cost controlled and talented backup for 3 years that we can trade for a profit afterwards.

Hoover 01-26-2024 01:18 PM

When your front office can find gems like Sneed in the 4th or Pacheco in the 7th you don' need to be drafting QBs "just cuz."

Hoover 01-26-2024 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SurroundedByMorons (Post 17363874)
What would be the upside to this move?

He would be a great back up QB, but our version of cheap and his version is waaaay different.

Rausch 01-26-2024 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17363858)
For what purpose… to sit out as a third string/practice squad QB?

The Chiefs have too many needs to waste a draft pick.

What needs do we have outside of WR and Offensive Tackle?

Hoover 01-26-2024 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17363466)
Andy had McNabb and drafted:

Kevin Kolb in the 2nd round.
AJ Feeley in the 5th.
Kafka in the 4th.
Nick Foles in the 3rd.

I wonder if Veach and Andy will use a mid rounder on a QB in the next couple drafts.

I wouldn’t hate it at a max of a 4th round investment if the right guy falls, but I sure would be pissed if we used a 2 or 3 on one.

again, the NFL landscape is so different than it was back them.

Just plug in actual player names and see how you feel about this...

2nd Round. Can you see Veach and Reid saying I'd rather have a back up QB than Rashee Rice? I'd rather have a backup QB than Leo Chenal in the 3rd. I'd rather have a backup QB than Joshua Williams in the 4th, or I'd rather have a backup QB than Noah Gray in the 5th.

Sure, you can go high light the guys that have yet to develop and make the case, but look at our roster and realize the reason this team is so damn good and consistent, is that we add talent and depth to the roster through the draft every year.

The guy you want to draft hopefully never sees the field. And frankly if he does, I want him to suck because I'd rather inject high draft picks after an injury season than have the ability to shop a backup QB around for what essentially would be a comp pick.

Jewish Rabbi 01-26-2024 02:05 PM

Guys I have a Ferrari in my garage. Should I go buy an IROC just in case my Ferrari breaks down?

chiefzilla1501 01-26-2024 02:07 PM

Gabbert is here largely because henne recommended him. Let’s just bring in a veteran that’s best suited to fill in for a game or 2 for the hopefully never emergency we need someone to chip in. Let’s just start there and we don’t need to reinvent the wheel.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-26-2024 02:26 PM

I hate today.

UK_Chief 01-26-2024 02:29 PM

Find a better veteran than Gabbert

chiefzilla1501 01-26-2024 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 17364264)
I hate today.

I love today. We are worrying about a qb who at most will need to chip in a few games while other teams are hamstrung with a shit qb or in a horrible spot to take a qbotf who will probably suck.

Life is good

kccrow 01-26-2024 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 17364149)
What needs do we have outside of WR and Offensive Tackle?

DT1
DT2
DT3
DT4
LB4
SY4
RB2
RB3
TE3
OG3 (maybe)

Hayneplane 01-26-2024 02:49 PM

Gabbert is a horrible backup because his style is so much of a mismatch to an offensive scheme built around Mahomes. He would be a decent enough backup for a pocket passer statue like Brady or Big Ben but not for us.

At the right price I see value in someone like Tyler Huntley.

Chief Pagan 01-26-2024 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 17364229)
Guys I have a Ferrari in my garage. Should I go buy an IROC just in case my Ferrari breaks down?

In all seriousness, KC absolutely should have a backup that could come in say if Mahomes beaks his collarbone in the middle of the season.

Or if he has to sit out a drive during a playoff game while getting checked/cleared/x-rayed for medical reasons.

Now whether that is best done by FA vets or a draft pick is a different question.

Hoover 01-26-2024 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 17364319)
In all seriousness, KC absolutely should have a backup that could come in say if Mahomes beaks his collarbone in the middle of the season.

Or if he has to sit out a drive during a playoff game while getting checked/cleared/x-rayed for medical reasons.

Now whether that is best done by FA vets or a draft pick is a different question.

No!

I'll gladly take a top 10 top instead. This team with Mahomes is built to win Super Bowls. We are so past playoff appearances.

Backups like Gabbert can hold you over for a short term absence. That's all we need.

FloridaMan88 01-26-2024 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 17364149)
What needs do we have outside of WR and Offensive Tackle?

Depth at LB and defensive line with potential free agency defections.

RB depth.

TE depth.

Veach has proven he can hit on instant impact players in any round of the draft… to waste a draft pick on a QB who realistically is going to be nothing more than a practice squad player next season, is not the best use of draft capital.

ROYC75 01-26-2024 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayneplane (Post 17364315)
Gabbert is a horrible backup because his style is so much of a mismatch to an offensive scheme built around Mahomes. He would be a decent enough backup for a pocket passer statue like Brady or Big Ben but not for us.

At the right price I see value in someone like Tyler Huntley.

Huntley would be good, but you think Baltimore is willing to let him walk?

I believe Tyrod Taylor will be available next year.

Hayneplane 01-26-2024 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 17364367)
Huntley would be good, but you think Baltimore is willing to let him walk?

I believe Tyrod Taylor will be available next year.

Likely not as Jackson has more of an injury history to merit needing a backup in the system and Huntley is a good fit with the way Baltimore are built to play.

Tannehill is another veteran option if he isn’t willing to stay with the Titans as backup and maybe wants a ring even just as a squad player

RealSNR 01-26-2024 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 17364229)
Guys I have a Ferrari in my garage. Should I go buy an IROC just in case my Ferrari breaks down?


Your car could back up 493rd’s car!!!!

BWillie 01-26-2024 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17363466)
Andy had McNabb and drafted:

Kevin Kolb in the 2nd round.
AJ Feeley in the 5th.
Kafka in the 4th.
Nick Foles in the 3rd.

I wonder if Veach and Andy will use a mid rounder on a QB in the next couple drafts.

I wouldn’t hate it at a max of a 4th round investment if the right guy falls, but I sure would be pissed if we used a 2 or 3 on one.

Drafting a QB before round 7 would be monumentally stupid.

Bwana 01-26-2024 04:27 PM

We have other more pressing needs, but I wouldn't mind an upgrade on a backup QB. If Blain Gabbert ever had to step in for more than a couple of weeks, we would be screwed. Hopefully there will be a decent UFA available.

kcfan75 01-26-2024 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 17364229)
Guys I have a Ferrari in my garage. Should I go buy an IROC just in case my Ferrari breaks down?

Well yeah, unless you like walking to work.

cdcox 01-26-2024 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVChiefFan (Post 17363529)
I have no problem with the “draft and develop a QB, then trade them to a desperate franchise” scenario. The issue I have is, Veach drafts so well from rounds 1-7, I don’t know that I ever want to waste a pick on a QB. We’re not drafting one to compete, that’s for certain.

The hole in that strategy is that without the backup seeing playing time, no one will see the development, and no trade value will be created.

Bump 01-26-2024 09:47 PM

if Andy Reid likes drafting backup QBs, why hasn't he drafted one ever as a Chief?

The last one was that Georgia QB murray wasn't it? But that was before Mahomes. Did he even make the team as a backup? I feel like he might have, but I also feel like he might not have too.


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