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angelo 01-29-2024 11:02 AM

Return from I.R. Super Bowl
 
Are there any players who could return from I.R. for the Super Bowl?

The Franchise 01-29-2024 11:03 AM

I don't think it would happen but I wonder where Cook is in his recovery.

Mecca 01-29-2024 11:03 AM

Not so much IR but getting Gay and Thuney back would be a pretty big deal.

Kman34 01-29-2024 11:03 AM

How bout the kid whose foot turned the wrong way?? Cook..

Womble 01-29-2024 11:08 AM

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tyton75 01-29-2024 11:10 AM

Getting Skyy back for depth wouldn't be a bad thing

Mecca 01-29-2024 11:12 AM

Skyy Moore and Kadarius Toney are not taking any snaps for the team the rest of this year...maybe ever.

ChiTown 01-29-2024 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17374720)
Skyy Moore and Kadarius Toney are not taking any snaps for the team the rest of this year...maybe ever.

If there is a benevolent God, this will be a true statement.

DJ's left nut 01-29-2024 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17374684)
I don't think it would happen but I wonder where Cook is in his recovery.

Having heard NOTHING about Cook likely means he's done.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17374686)
Not so much IR but getting Gay and Thuney back would be a pretty big deal.

Someone was saying that a 2nd opinion on Thuney found an actual tear in the pec and that he was probably done for the season. That's why he was ruled out before the game started.

Only rumors, but that's what the rumors were.

As for Gay - man, he's gotta be back, right? I just can't see him 'giving it a shot' pre-game but not being ready in 2 weeks.

Fortunately, the 49ers don't have a Madubuike so I'm not as worried about not having Thuney in that game. Allegretti can get the job done against the 49ers interior line. Especially since SF doesn't utilize much in the way of complicate blitz packages that would create communication problems.

We don't need Thuney as much against SF as we did against Baltimore.

wazu 01-29-2024 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyton75 (Post 17374716)
Getting Skyy back for depth wouldn't be a bad thing

No thanks.

Dante84 01-29-2024 11:14 AM

I don't think there's any way Thuney is playing. I saw a picture of him in the locker room celebrating with his shirt off, and his entire pec/armpit/upper arm are bruised. If there's even a question of a tear - and there is - I don't see how he plays.


Edit: I found it:


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Joe Thuney in a locker room celebration. We&#39;re praying for his recovery &amp; that he can play in the Super Bowl. ���� <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/2tRPpkqWLI">pic.twitter.com/2tRPpkqWLI</a></p>&mdash; Starcade Media (@StarcadeMediaKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/StarcadeMediaKC/status/1751784320346243255?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 29, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ChiTown 01-29-2024 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17374684)
I don't think it would happen but I wonder where Cook is in his recovery.

I think Andy mentioned it in a Press Conf several weeks ago that it would be highly unlikely that Cook could even make it back if they got to the SB

pugsnotdrugs19 01-29-2024 11:16 AM

I'm hopeful for Gay and Omenihu. The rest I do not expect.

Mecca 01-29-2024 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17374732)
I don't think there's any way Thuney is playing. I saw a picture of him in the locker room celebrating with his shirt off, and his entire pec/armpit/upper arm are bruised. If there's even a question of a tear - and there is - I don't see how he plays.


Edit: I found it:


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Joe Thuney in a locker room celebration. We&#39;re praying for his recovery &amp; that he can play in the Super Bowl. ���� <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/2tRPpkqWLI">pic.twitter.com/2tRPpkqWLI</a></p>&mdash; Starcade Media (@StarcadeMediaKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/StarcadeMediaKC/status/1751784320346243255?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 29, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is what the bruising from a torn pec looks like..

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/...S738499518.jpg

Dante84 01-29-2024 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17374738)
This is what the bruising from a torn pec looks like..

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/...S738499518.jpg

Well, Thuney's yellow bruise is the exact same shape as this dude's red one... I'm sure there are varying degrees, but that doesn't exactly slam the door on the torn pec discussion.

BryanBusby 01-29-2024 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17374738)
This is what the bruising from a torn pec looks like..

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/...S738499518.jpg

That purple titty came to mind right as I was scrolling down to see exactly that.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-29-2024 11:27 AM

Charles said he's playing, but hopefully that wasn't just the adrenaline talking.

SHOWTIME 01-29-2024 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17374732)
I don't think there's any way Thuney is playing. I saw a picture of him in the locker room celebrating with his shirt off, and his entire pec/armpit/upper arm are bruised. If there's even a question of a tear - and there is - I don't see how he plays.


Edit: I found it:


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Joe Thuney in a locker room celebration. We&#39;re praying for his recovery &amp; that he can play in the Super Bowl. ���� <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/2tRPpkqWLI">pic.twitter.com/2tRPpkqWLI</a></p>&mdash; Starcade Media (@StarcadeMediaKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/StarcadeMediaKC/status/1751784320346243255?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 29, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Luckily, for us, SF's pass rush is not nearly as lethal as Baltimore's. They have Bosa and that's pretty much it. If we handle him, Mahomes will have all the time in the world to throw.

smithandrew051 01-29-2024 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17374738)
This is what the bruising from a torn pec looks like..

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/...S738499518.jpg

Meltzer will be giving the Super Bowl 5 stars after a heroic performance from Thuney

Dante84 01-29-2024 12:14 PM

Oh, and there's this


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Adam Schefter says Joe Thuney is actually dealing with a torn pec, not just a strained pec.</p>&mdash; Josh Chavis (@JoshChavis65) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshChavis65/status/1752025605367906586?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 29, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Rausch 01-29-2024 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17374768)
Meltzer will be giving the Super Bowl 5 stars after a heroic performance from Thuney

If he plays he will have achieved big dick levels in the realm of Aleksandr Karelin...

ChiTown 01-29-2024 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17374904)
Oh, and there's this


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Adam Schefter says Joe Thuney is actually dealing with a torn pec, not just a strained pec.</p>&mdash; Josh Chavis (@JoshChavis65) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshChavis65/status/1752025605367906586?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 29, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Well, that's that. poop

DJ's left nut 01-29-2024 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17374904)
Oh, and there's this


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Adam Schefter says Joe Thuney is actually dealing with a torn pec, not just a strained pec.</p>&mdash; Josh Chavis (@JoshChavis65) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshChavis65/status/1752025605367906586?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 29, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I said it in the 49ers thread, I believe, but those rumors were starting to trickle out yesterday morning. A 2nd opinion found more tearing and that's why he was ruled out on Saturday (as opposed to Gay, who they let try it out on Sunday).

wachashi 01-29-2024 12:19 PM

Prince Tega Wanogho could make a return. Haven't heard much on him, but we will be down an offensive linemen, so it could make sense.

BWillie 01-29-2024 12:21 PM

League circles agree that Skyy Moore and Kadarius Toney will still be hurt and limited in two weeks. These two players are so important to the Chiefs they dont want to risk further reinjury and sabotage their careers.

Mecca 01-29-2024 12:22 PM

The 49ers D is not the Ravens, Allegretti can handle them, Bosa is a top level player.

Armstead has declined, Hargrave is a bit of a one trick pony.

RINGLEADER 01-29-2024 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17374720)
Skyy Moore and Kadarius Toney are not taking any snaps for the team the rest of this year...maybe ever.

Sad but true.

We may be able to flip Skyy for a 7th to some team that believes they can coach him up, but he’s just not very good. Toney seems like a head case that Andy and Co have lost all patience with so yeah, he’s probably played his last snap in the NFL.

TLO 01-29-2024 01:20 PM

If Skyy and Toney are healthy, you can probably draw up a play for each. They both had TD's in the Super Bowl last year.

Just don't rely on them as consistent targets (duh)

BWillie 01-29-2024 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 17375082)
Sad but true.

We may be able to flip Skyy for a 7th to some team that believes they can coach him up, but he’s just not very good. Toney seems like a head case that Andy and Co have lost all patience with so yeah, he’s probably played his last snap in the NFL.

Luckily we are in a pretty good cap situation. Our cap situation compared to other top teams...man we are ready to fly as long as we don't do any stupid contracts.

Mephistopheles Janx 01-29-2024 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyton75 (Post 17374716)
Getting Skyy back for depth wouldn't be a bad thing

I'm fairly certain we have a waterboy we can call up from the practice squad. We have all the depth at hydration engineer we need.

BWillie 01-29-2024 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17375094)
If Skyy and Toney are healthy, you can probably draw up a play for each. They both had TD's in the Super Bowl last year.

Just don't rely on them as consistent targets (duh)

ABSOLUTELY NOT. ARE YOU SERIOUS? UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD THESE TWO SEE THE FIELD IN THE SUPER BOWL.


It wouldn't surprised me if Mahomes gave the staff some sort of ultimatum that he's not going to throw to these two dumb ****s so don't even dress them. You are just wasting a roster spot.

BWillie 01-29-2024 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyton75 (Post 17374716)
Getting Skyy back for depth wouldn't be a bad thing

It would be an awful thing. Truly awful.

TinyEvel 01-29-2024 01:23 PM

How does cutting players in the post-season work? Guys like Sky Moore and Toney. If Toney really did make that IG Live bad mouthing the team, why not cut his ass straight-away and move a PS player up at least?

BuckeyeTheDog 01-29-2024 01:24 PM

Is McKinnon 100% out?

I thought there was a chance he could be back by the Super Bowl.

I would love to improve our back up RB position.

TLO 01-29-2024 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17375103)
It would be an awful thing. Truly awful.

I agree it's like picking out what flavor of dog shit you want put on your cereal. But God forbid Rice gets injured I think I'd rather have Moore taking snaps over Hardman.

Mecca 01-29-2024 01:25 PM

I think Toney has a shot to make the team out of camp next year as the return guy and occasional gadget player.

Moore I don't even see a role.

TLO 01-29-2024 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckeyeTheDog (Post 17375107)
Is McKinnon 100% out?

I thought there was a chance he could be back by the Super Bowl.

I would love to improve our back up RB position.

Even if it's just for pass blocking.

Clyde was AWFUL in protection yesterday.

Eleazar 01-29-2024 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TinyEvel (Post 17375106)
How does cutting players in the post-season work? Guys like Sky Moore and Toney. If Toney really did make that IG Live bad mouthing the team, why not cut his ass straight-away and move a PS player up at least?

No advantage, probably. See if you can get a swap of 7ths for him in the offseason or something.

TLO 01-29-2024 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17375108)
I agree it's like picking out what flavor of dog shit you want put on your cereal. But God forbid Rice gets injured I think I'd rather have Moore taking snaps over Hardman.

Upon further review I don't even want to think about what it would look like if Rice got injured so let's just have Rice be healthy and keep Skyy and Toney on the bench.

RINGLEADER 01-29-2024 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17374932)
The 49ers D is not the Ravens, Allegretti can handle them, Bosa is a top level player.

Armstead has declined, Hargrave is a bit of a one trick pony.

Chiefs defense in three post-season games:

PPG: 13.7
YPG: 322.7
Passing YPG: 209.7
Rushing YPG: 113 (due entirely to the Bills 182 yard game)
Third Down Convert: 10/25

Niners defense in two post-season games:

PPG: 26.0
YPG: 386
Passing YPG: 227
Rushing YPG: 159 (5.68 ypc)
Third Down Convert: 13/25

If we get Pacheco going and Andy sticks with him it will be hard for the Niners to win.

dlphg9 01-29-2024 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17375108)
I agree it's like picking out what flavor of dog shit you want put on your cereal. But God forbid Rice gets injured I think I'd rather have Moore taking snaps over Hardman.

God no, I wouldn't. At least Mecole has shown he can be serviceable up to a point. Skyy can't do a single ****ing thing.

saphojunkie 01-29-2024 01:39 PM

I would take Skyy’s lack of ability over Toney’s aggressively ****ing up any day

BWillie 01-29-2024 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17375108)
I agree it's like picking out what flavor of dog shit you want put on your cereal. But God forbid Rice gets injured I think I'd rather have Moore taking snaps over Hardman.

Hardman sucks but he has a track record of being useful here. Skyy Moore had 17 yards in 3 playoff games last year and has lost games singlehandedly for us this year.

Mecca 01-29-2024 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17375156)
Hardman sucks but he has a track record of being useful here. Skyy Moore had 17 yards in 3 playoff games last year and has lost games singlehandedly for us this year.

Mecole Hardman has an elite trait, speed, Moore has none.

HemiEd 01-29-2024 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17374930)
League circles agree that Skyy Moore and Kadarius Toney will still be hurt and limited in two weeks. These two players are so important to the Chiefs they dont want to risk further reinjury and sabotage their careers.

:LOL: Ok, now that is funny.

philfree 01-29-2024 04:47 PM

Don't the guys who end the season on IR get to participate in rookie minicamp? Skyy needs more camp!

suzzer99 01-29-2024 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17374732)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Joe Thuney in a locker room celebration. We&#39;re praying for his recovery &amp; that he can play in the Super Bowl. ���� <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/2tRPpkqWLI">pic.twitter.com/2tRPpkqWLI</a></p>&mdash; Starcade Media (@StarcadeMediaKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/StarcadeMediaKC/status/1751784320346243255?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 29, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It blows my mind that this is the body of a perennial all pro NFL position player.

Oh Snap 01-29-2024 07:11 PM

Whatever happened to jerick McKinnon? Tired of seeing CEH miss blocks and run for no gain

Sofa King 01-29-2024 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 17375813)
Whatever happened to jerick McKinnon? Tired of seeing CEH miss blocks and run for no gain

Basically the same thing Mecole did. Really ****ed himself up. Likely done here forever.

srvy 01-29-2024 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17374732)
I don't think there's any way Thuney is playing. I saw a picture of him in the locker room celebrating with his shirt off, and his entire pec/armpit/upper arm are bruised. If there's even a question of a tear - and there is - I don't see how he plays.


Edit: I found it:


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Joe Thuney in a locker room celebration. We&#39;re praying for his recovery &amp; that he can play in the Super Bowl. ���� <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/2tRPpkqWLI">pic.twitter.com/2tRPpkqWLI</a></p>&mdash; Starcade Media (@StarcadeMediaKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/StarcadeMediaKC/status/1751784320346243255?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 29, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

But beer makes everything better.

srvy 01-29-2024 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17375112)
Even if it's just for pass blocking.

Clyde was AWFUL in protection yesterday.

This

srvy 01-29-2024 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 17375667)
It blows my mind that this is the body of a perennial all pro NFL position player.

Prototypical Guard Bod:thumb:

trndobrd 01-29-2024 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17375111)
I think Toney has a shot to make the team out of camp next year as the return guy and occasional gadget player.

Moore I don't even see a role.

I would consider bringing Toney back to camp next season since no team is going w to want to trade, but only if he is brought in as a fullback.

Pitt Gorilla 01-29-2024 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17375156)
Hardman sucks but he has a track record of being useful here. Skyy Moore had 17 yards in 3 playoff games last year and has lost games singlehandedly for us this year.

Which GAMES did Moore lose single-handedly for us this year?

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 01-29-2024 09:16 PM

McKinnon?? CEH constantly picked up the wrong guy yesterday

T-post Tom 01-29-2024 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 17375991)
McKinnon?? CEH constantly picked up the wrong guy yesterday

Yes.

cdcox 01-29-2024 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17375115)
Upon further review I don't even want to think about what it would look like if Rice got injured so let's just have Rice be healthy and keep Skyy and Toney on the bench.

I’m don’t trust MVS. Kudos on the last two games, but he’s still unreliable.

Okchief80 01-29-2024 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17375112)
Even if it's just for pass blocking.

Clyde was AWFUL in protection yesterday.

Clyde did manage to get 1/ypc.

Okchief80 01-29-2024 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 17375149)
I would take Skyy’s lack of ability over Toney’s aggressively ****ing up any day

Can we kill two birds with one stone here?

BossChief 01-29-2024 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17374904)
Oh, and there's this


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Adam Schefter says Joe Thuney is actually dealing with a torn pec, not just a strained pec.</p>&mdash; Josh Chavis (@JoshChavis65) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshChavis65/status/1752025605367906586?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 29, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wouldn’t you want to put him on ir and steal someone from another teams practice squad and/or promote someone else from the PS.

BWillie 01-29-2024 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Okchief80 (Post 17376056)
Clyde did manage to get 1/ypc.

Great year hes had avg 3.2 ypc and whiffing blocks in the playoffs

suzzer99 01-29-2024 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 17375959)
Prototypical Guard Bod:thumb:

I have guard bod. Why am I not in the NFL?

savchief 01-30-2024 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 17375813)
Whatever happened to jerick McKinnon? Tired of seeing CEH miss blocks and run for no gain

Surgery for torn core muscle and they found a fracture in his pelvis. Not coming back for SB

FloridaMan88 01-30-2024 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17375111)
I think Toney has a shot to make the team out of camp next year as the return guy and occasional gadget player.

He's too mistake-prone to even do those limited roles.

And also he'll never practice consistently... always will be injured.

Time to move on.

SD15 01-30-2024 11:14 AM

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