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Mecca 01-30-2024 12:06 PM

Ben Johnson tells Seahawks and Commanders to **** off
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Lions?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Lions</a> OC Ben Johnson informed the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Seahawks?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Seahawks</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Commanders?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Commanders</a> that he’s staying in Detroit, per sources. <br><br>Johnson is still only 37 and will be a hot head coaching candidate again next year. But first, he wants to take another shot at bringing a Lombardi Trophy to Detroit. <a href="https://t.co/lPg2Po33sx">pic.twitter.com/lPg2Po33sx</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1752388531803050219?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Don't usually see this happen...

penguinz 01-30-2024 12:08 PM

You only do this if there is the belief that both those jobs are career killers.

Mecca 01-30-2024 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 17376730)
You only do this if there is the belief that both those jobs are career killers.

Washington I can see that, but Seattle is not a career killer.

New World Order 01-30-2024 12:09 PM

If I'm Washington I'd do everything in my power to get Johnson.

This is a year they can get a franchise qb and a good coach to develop him.

FloridaMan88 01-30-2024 12:09 PM

Washington with a new era of ownership is not a career killer anymore.

Mecca 01-30-2024 12:09 PM

Also according to Schefter he has an outrageous asking price that had some teams spooked.

So Ben Johnson is playing this interesting.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ben Johnson was not the head-coaching lock that people thought and his asking price spooked some teams, per sources. <a href="https://t.co/cFl2FPBtcY">https://t.co/cFl2FPBtcY</a></p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1752389552268791933?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

penguinz 01-30-2024 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17376731)
Washington I can see that, but Seattle is not a career killer.

You sure about that?

Mecca 01-30-2024 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 17376741)
You sure about that?

They have a good defense, roster is loaded with young talent, I mean obviously they don't have a franchise QB but that isn't a bottom barrel roster.

Womble 01-30-2024 12:12 PM

Why do the Redsk..Commanders want this guy when they've got future HOF HC Eric Bieniemy in the building?

FloridaMan88 01-30-2024 12:13 PM

Washington is projected to have like $84 million in salary cap space, #2 overall pick to draft a QB... it's an opportunity to build from scratch with new ownership in place.

Surprised that he turned that down.

penguinz 01-30-2024 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17376744)
They have a good defense, roster is loaded with young talent, I mean obviously they don't have a franchise QB but that isn't a bottom barrel roster.

So you think following Pete Carol and having no QB could not leave a negative impact on a career?

wazu 01-30-2024 12:15 PM

I remember Gary Kubiak doing that when he was with the Broncos. I think Ben Johnson might be making a mistake by not taking the Commanders opportunity. Seems like the new owner is solid from what I've seen. And with the #2 pick you have the chance to develop a franchise QB that could lead to a long and successful tenure.

ChiefsCountry 01-30-2024 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17376735)
Washington with a new era of ownership is not a career killer anymore.

Same ownership group owns the 76ers and Devils. Devils have sucked. 76ers are the Marty Schottenheimer of the NBA.

ThyKingdomCome15 01-30-2024 12:16 PM

That's a bold strategy.

O.city 01-30-2024 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17376744)
They have a good defense, roster is loaded with young talent, I mean obviously they don't have a franchise QB but that isn't a bottom barrel roster.

Seattle? Their defense was trash this year, no?

RunKC 01-30-2024 12:17 PM

He's a little bit overrated to me. Sure he has nice play designs but if you give any OC an offense with 6 first rd picks and lottery outliers like Amon Ra-St Brown and Sam La Porta then they're likely gonna have success.

They're more loaded on offense than the 49ers IMO

Gary Cooper 01-30-2024 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17376750)
Why do the Redsk..Commanders want this guy when they've got future HOF HC Eric Bieniemy in the building?

He doesn't interview well.

FloridaMan88 01-30-2024 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17376759)
Same ownership group owns the 76ers and Devils. Devils have sucked. 76ers are the Marty Schottenheimer of the NBA.

Still have an opportunity to build from scratch with massive amounts of salary cap room and the #2 overall pick in a QB-rich draft.

If his plan is to take a HC job next year... he's not going to find a "perfect" opening.

NY Jets if Saleh is fired? Probably worse than Washington this year.

siberian khatru 01-30-2024 12:20 PM

Quote:

Johnson is still only 37 and will be a hot head coaching candidate again next year.
Maybe, maybe not. Funny how things can change from season to season. Might want to strike while the iron is hot.

wazu 01-30-2024 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 17376771)
Maybe, maybe not. Funny how things can change from season to season. Might want to strike while the iron is hot.

He's probably waiting for the Raiders job to open up.

O.city 01-30-2024 12:23 PM

I think I heard this is Campbell's last year of his deal, so he may be waiting out that next year.

tk13 01-30-2024 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 17376771)
Maybe, maybe not. Funny how things can change from season to season. Might want to strike while the iron is hot.

Yeah I was gonna say, if the Lions pull an Eagles next year or Goff regresses or they get hit by injuries, his name isn't going to be what it is right now. With his age he should still have a chance down the road but no guarantee his asking price will be able to go up.

Mecca 01-30-2024 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17376761)
Seattle? Their defense was trash this year, no?

They have some building blocks Devon Witherspoon is a high end young CB.

tk13 01-30-2024 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17376781)
I think I heard this is Campbell's last year of his deal, so he may be waiting out that next year.

After this year I have to imagine they'd extend him. But you're right if they get back to the playoffs and blow it because Campbell wants to play Madden he'll probably get some heat.

Mecca 01-30-2024 12:28 PM

Guess Seattle will hire Mike McDonald then we can hear the Ravens fans cry some more.

Pepe Silvia 01-30-2024 12:32 PM

After seeing how all the haters treat the Chiefs I will no longer pull for another lovable loser to win. I hope the Lions never make a SB.

dirk digler 01-30-2024 12:42 PM

Personally I think it was dumb to do that you never know what might happen next season. Campbell even acknowledged that in his press conference that there is no guarantee they will make it back. There is a difference between being the hunter vs being the hunted.

wazu 01-30-2024 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17376827)
Personally I think it was dumb to do that you never know what might happen next season. Campbell even acknowledged that in his press conference that there is no guarantee they will make it back. There is a difference between being the hunter vs being the hunted.

There is zero chance that his stated reason of wanting to win a Super Bowl with the Lions is the real reason. That just sounds better than "I'm not ready" or "Commanders and Seahawks both suck".

Mecca 01-30-2024 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17376750)
Why do the Redsk..Commanders want this guy when they've got future HOF HC Eric Bieniemy in the building?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">He&#39;s failed to convince any team that he&#39;s the guy to lead them to a championship.<br><br>Washington&#39;s offense didn&#39;t get better with him as OC.<br><br>They went from 24th in points under Scott Turner to 25th under Bieniemy, and from 20th in yards to 24th. <a href="https://t.co/JZRQGGzRo9">https://t.co/JZRQGGzRo9</a></p>&mdash; Benjamin Allbright (@AllbrightNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/1752393581476618315?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pasta Little Brioni 01-30-2024 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17376911)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">He&#39;s failed to convince any team that he&#39;s the guy to lead them to a championship.<br><br>Washington&#39;s offense didn&#39;t get better with him as OC.<br><br>They went from 24th in points under Scott Turner to 25th under Bieniemy, and from 20th in yards to 24th. <a href="https://t.co/JZRQGGzRo9">https://t.co/JZRQGGzRo9</a></p>&mdash; Benjamin Allbright (@AllbrightNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/1752393581476618315?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I remember when morons on this board were bragging about how well he was doing in Washington ROFL ROFL

nychief 01-30-2024 01:19 PM

Kafka went from the hottest OC, future Head Coach, in the world last off season... a lot can change in a year. If the lions come back to earth, he might regret this move.

Mecca 01-30-2024 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 17376920)
Kafka went from the hottest OC, future Head Coach, in the world last off season... a lot can change in a year. If the lions come back to earth, he might regret this move.

That's why taking a job that isn't set up right can **** you over.

Kafka went to the Giants right? What did he expect to happen...

Tribal Warfare 01-30-2024 01:32 PM

The real quandary is Mike Vrabel and his clear availability. You would believe a team down on its luck would be all for having him as a HC.

dannybcaitlyn 01-30-2024 01:32 PM

Hopefully they go after McDonald from the Ravens.

dirk digler 01-30-2024 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17376837)
There is zero chance that his stated reason of wanting to win a Super Bowl with the Lions is the real reason. That just sounds better than "I'm not ready" or "Commanders and Seahawks both suck".

Could be he is not ready but both of those jobs don't suck especially the Commanders with new owners and no limits on money.

Zap Rowsdower 01-30-2024 02:07 PM

He'll be the Cowboys coach in 2025.

RealSNR 01-30-2024 03:01 PM

Connor Embree is a much better candidate anyway

RunKC 01-30-2024 03:02 PM

Don't get why he wouldn't go to Washington. New owner, good surrounding offensive talent, can draft Drake Maye or Jayden Daniels.

Also tons of cash to spend

Shields68 01-30-2024 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17376735)
Washington with a new era of ownership is not a career killer anymore.

It still comes down to how good a pick they make with the 2nd pick of the draft. That pick will last the first 3-4 years of your contract if he is bad.

DRM08 01-30-2024 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17376736)
Also according to Schefter he has an outrageous asking price that had some teams spooked.

So Ben Johnson is playing this interesting.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ben Johnson was not the head-coaching lock that people thought and his asking price spooked some teams, per sources. <a href="https://t.co/cFl2FPBtcY">https://t.co/cFl2FPBtcY</a></p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1752389552268791933?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Sounds kind of arrogant. Would be funny if his strategy backfires on him. Seattle seems like a pretty good job. I figure Geno Smith is not much different than Jared Goff.

But maybe the guy is hoping for a different job with a more talented quarterback. Buffalo or Kansas City could be open at some point in the near future.

srvy 01-30-2024 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17376837)
There is zero chance that his stated reason of wanting to win a Super Bowl with the Lions is the real reason. That just sounds better than "I'm not ready" or "Commanders and Seahawks both suck".

Maybe he just feels that he isn't ready yet. I mean 24 is pretty young for sure to take a head coach gig. It's a risk on his part but only he knows his capabilities at this point.

wazu 01-30-2024 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 17377495)
Maybe he just feels that he isn't ready yet. I mean 24 is pretty young for sure to take a head coach gig. It's a risk on his part but only he knows his capabilities at this point.

He's 37, FYI.

Vladimir_Kyrilytch 01-30-2024 09:06 PM

Can we stop with the whole "the Chiefs might need a head coach soon". That's garbage that came out of Florio's imagination that has ZERO basis in reality. That stupid ****er has been suggesting that the Chiefs should hire 72 year old Bellichick because 65 year old Andy Reid sure is getting long in the tooth. It's reeruned.

Just stop giving that clowntard's imagination some sort of credence like it's a source. It isn't. The Chiefs Planet Editorial Board has 10x the credibility of that asshole.

srvy 01-30-2024 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17377496)
He's 37, FYI.

Well then I take it back he is a dumbshit!

staylor26 01-30-2024 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn (Post 17376954)
Hopefully they go after McDonald from the Ravens.

He's 100% getting a job somewhere. Just a matter of which team, Washington or Seattle.

RunKC 12-06-2024 05:23 PM

The guy has become the best play caller and play designer in the NFL now. He’s like a young Andy.

Caleb Williams should be demanding the Bears ownership hires this guy since he has interest. He’s an incredible X’s and O’s coach.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This play design is stupid. Ben Johnson is built different. I hope the Bears ownership isn’t watching anymore. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OnePride?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OnePride</a> <a href="https://t.co/kOVg6DpRim">pic.twitter.com/kOVg6DpRim</a></p>&mdash; Matt Broder (@mattbro21) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattbro21/status/1862222363992961368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 28, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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