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wazu 02-22-2024 02:06 PM

Chiefs sign former Bills Punter Matt Araiza
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A big development in KC: Chiefs are signing former Bills punter Matt Araiza, per source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1760757406479294963?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 22, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

TLO 02-22-2024 02:07 PM

See ya Tommy.

SHOWTIME 02-22-2024 02:07 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> punter Matt Araiza: <a href="https://t.co/m6f6OFWNfd">pic.twitter.com/m6f6OFWNfd</a></p>&mdash; Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1760758698417209606?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 22, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

FloridaMan88 02-22-2024 02:08 PM

Tommy Townsend is a free agent this offseason.

bigjosh 02-22-2024 02:08 PM

Punt god the (alleged) rapist


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Marcellus 02-22-2024 02:09 PM

Wow this could be huge.

Good knowing you Tommy you had a good run.

Marcellus 02-22-2024 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 17413798)
Punt god the (alleged) rapist


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He is no longer even alleged, it was a made up story.

TribalElder 02-22-2024 02:09 PM

I knew tommy townsend was as good as gone when he announced that he signed up with drew rosenhaus

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Welcome to the family ⁦<a href="https://twitter.com/tommy_townsend?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tommy_townsend</a>⁩ <a href="https://t.co/dAh7fDRrJH">pic.twitter.com/dAh7fDRrJH</a></p>&mdash; Drew Rosenhaus (@DrewJRosenhaus) <a href="https://twitter.com/DrewJRosenhaus/status/1686568790098608128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

SHOWTIME 02-22-2024 02:10 PM

Another kick in the teeth to Bills Mafia...

OKchiefs 02-22-2024 02:10 PM

He can get back at Buffalo next year for releasing him by punting Josh Allen right in the dick

Kman34 02-22-2024 02:10 PM

Creeped Taylor out when he hugged her.. See ya..

pugsnotdrugs19 02-22-2024 02:11 PM

Well deserved second chance after being cleared of his accusations. And might turn out an upgrade.

DJ's left nut 02-22-2024 02:12 PM

That's a heck of a move. I mean he has ZERO service time so we're looking at ERFA at worst for 3 years, RFA for a 4th.

And the dude has a MASSIVE leg.

Look - everyone hates us so that just is what it is. Might as well lean into it at this point. If you can get a dude like Araiza and save $4 million in cap space by not re-signing Townsend, it's just a complete no-brainer.

Kman34 02-22-2024 02:12 PM

****ing kickers are a dime a dozen..

PHOG 02-22-2024 02:13 PM

Solid move imo, and he deserved another chance after being railroaded, from what I've read. Hopefully he can hold kicks too?

staylor26 02-22-2024 02:14 PM

Great ****ing move.

mnchiefsguy 02-22-2024 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17413810)
That's a heck of a move. I mean he has ZERO service time so we're looking at ERFA at worst for 3 years, RFA for a 4th.

And the dude has a MASSIVE leg.

Look - everyone hates us so that just is what it is. Might as well lean into it at this point. If you can get a dude like Araiza and save $4 million in cap space by not re-signing Townsend, it's just a complete no-brainer.

As much as I like Townsend, I am totally down with this. Go get your bag Tommy, from someone else--we need your money elsewhere on the Chiefs.

Sassy Squatch 02-22-2024 02:15 PM

Aww, the general consensus seems to be glad he's actually getting a chance after being ****ed over. I wanted to enjoy full Heel Chiefs slander. It's the best.

TLO 02-22-2024 02:15 PM

Hoo boy

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> punter Matt Araiza: <a href="https://t.co/m6f6OFWNfd">pic.twitter.com/m6f6OFWNfd</a></p>&mdash; Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1760758698417209606?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 22, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BigRock 02-22-2024 02:15 PM

Townsend was nails in the Super Bowl. But too shaky in the playoffs overall and either he can't punt out of bounds to avoid touchbacks or Toub just prefers to gamble that maybe someone can get there and down it. I'm assuming it's not the latter.

Possible big W assuming Araiza hasn't been fried mentally by everything.

Hammock Parties 02-22-2024 02:16 PM

lmao they're gonna hate us so much when we get him a ring

KC Shox 02-22-2024 02:17 PM

Good for us and him. This Me Too crap and guilty to proven innocent ideology is pure bull excrement. Trevor Bauer needs to be signed now.

chiefzilla1501 02-22-2024 02:17 PM

Sorry, don't get it.

I don't have any real opinion on the controversy, but he will be controversial fair or not. If this is just to give Townsend free agent competition there are a million who can do it without controversy. So why not just do that?

In Townsend we have a real good one and I really don't want to **** with the guy who holds for a kicker on an absolute tear right now. I hope araiza finds a good gig somewhere. He deserves it. I just don't think this is worth it

PHOG 02-22-2024 02:18 PM

Bills fans reaction:

https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2...L0wle/200.webp

redfan 02-22-2024 02:18 PM

This is a great move, and I'll miss TT.

staylor26 02-22-2024 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17413823)
Sorry, don't get it.

I don't have any real opinion on the controversy, but he will be controversial fair or not. If this is just to give Townsend free agent competition there are a million who can do it without controversy. So why not just do that?

In Townsend we have a real good one and I really don't want to **** with the guy who holds for a kicker on an absolute tear right now. I hope araiza finds a good gig somewhere. He deserves it. I just don't think this is worth it

LMAO

Marcellus 02-22-2024 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17413823)
Sorry, don't get it.

I don't have any real opinion on the controversy, but he will be controversial fair or not. If this is just to give Townsend free agent competition there are a million who can do it without controversy. So why not just do that?

In Townsend we have a real good one and I really don't want to **** with the guy who holds for a kicker on an absolute tear right now. I hope araiza finds a good gig somewhere. He deserves it. I just don't think this is worth it

:LOL: Never change Zilla, never change.

Chieftain 02-22-2024 02:18 PM

Townsend was not very good this past season. Played well in the playoffs but during the season he was very inconsistent.

FloridaMan88 02-22-2024 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 17413806)
Creeped Taylor out when he hugged her.. See ya..

He enjoyed it too much…

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGHLw59X...jpg&name=large

Pitt Gorilla 02-22-2024 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17413810)
That's a heck of a move. I mean he has ZERO service time so we're looking at ERFA at worst for 3 years, RFA for a 4th.

And the dude has a MASSIVE leg.

Look - everyone hates us so that just is what it is. Might as well lean into it at this point. If you can get a dude like Araiza and save $4 million in cap space by not re-signing Townsend, it's just a complete no-brainer.

I've been leaning into it since the 2019 season.

chiefzilla1501 02-22-2024 02:19 PM

If Townsend does end up being way too expensive then ok... Great move

Bearcat 02-22-2024 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17413823)
I hope araiza finds a good gig somewhere.

Well, good news...

loochy 02-22-2024 02:20 PM

How is his holding ability? Is he solid?

staylor26 02-22-2024 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17413835)
Well, good news...

:LOL:

tk13 02-22-2024 02:20 PM

That seals it. Gotta sign Jones and Sneed now and draft all defense. We'll win every game 27-0 by dominating field position with Butker hitting nine 60 yard field goals.

chiefzilla1501 02-22-2024 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 17413828)
:LOL: Never change Zilla, never change.

Change about what? It's a lot more about Townsend than araiza. I don't really want to **** with something that isn't broken. I have no issues whatsoever with araiza getting a work somewhere. He deserves it.

loochy 02-22-2024 02:21 PM

It's some extra money for sneed or jones. $4 mil there could make the difference

Pitt Gorilla 02-22-2024 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 17413838)
How is his holding ability? Is he solid?

That reerun Colquitt probably thinks he sucks.

FloridaMan88 02-22-2024 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17413823)
Sorry, don't get it.

I don't have any real opinion on the controversy, but he will be controversial fair or not. If this is just to give Townsend free agent competition there are a million who can do it without controversy. So why not just do that?

In Townsend we have a real good one and I really don't want to **** with the guy who holds for a kicker on an absolute tear right now. I hope araiza finds a good gig somewhere. He deserves it. I just don't think this is worth it

He was cleared of the accusations… what is controversial?

The Franchise 02-22-2024 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17413841)
Change about what? It's a lot more about Townsend than araiza. I don't really want to **** with something that isn't broken. I have no issues whatsoever with araiza getting a work somewhere. He deserves it.

Townsend hasn't been consistent. For every great punt...he's had a shit one.

DJ's left nut 02-22-2024 02:22 PM

Punter highlights?

Oh yes, punter highlights...

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/OafZBFXyg-M?si=gHXi871KQzEUS81w" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Gonna need a little work on placement and probably trajectory (lot of flat missiles in there) but the leg is just unreal. And he's gonna have that funky lefty spin to boot.

He could be a genuine weapon.

KC_Connection 02-22-2024 02:23 PM

Makes sense to me. Townsend wasn't really any good this year.

Pitt Gorilla 02-22-2024 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17413844)
He was cleared of the accusations… what is controversial?

Some folks claimed that Jackson, Brittney, Pat Sr., TayTay, etc. would all be "distractions." People are dumb.

Sassy Squatch 02-22-2024 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 17413828)
:LOL: Never change Zilla, never change.

LMAO Once he said Spagnuolo didn't REALLY mean it when he's said repeatedly over and over again he still wants to be a HC I just kind of gave up on engaging with him. You can literally find hard proof of something and if it goes against the narrative he's crafted in his head he'll do anything to disregard or ignore it. Completely pointless to interact with him.

siberian khatru 02-22-2024 02:23 PM

We should be forever grateful for Tommy's hold on the bad snap on Butker's record 57-yard FG in SB58.

DJ's left nut 02-22-2024 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17413845)
Townsend hasn't been consistent. For every great punt...he's had a shit one.

Right?

And the guy's probably going to want $4-5 million to stay.

I've been saying we needed to let Townsend go for months. I have no interest in re-signing the guy. And this is a killer replacement who can probably be an upgrade with a little work with Toub. And he's going to be cheap for the foreseeable future.

BigRedChief 02-22-2024 02:24 PM

His agent is looking for the best punter ever contract. They ain’t getting that here.

Balto 02-22-2024 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 17413842)
It's some extra money for sneed or jones. $4 mil there could make the difference

Townsend + only $28M for Jones

OR

Araiza + $32M for Jones

New World Order 02-22-2024 02:25 PM

He's cheap and he's good

FloridaMan88 02-22-2024 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17413853)
Right?

And the guy's probably going to want $4-5 million to stay.

I've been saying we needed to let Townsend go for months. I have no interest in re-signing the guy. And this is a killer replacement who can probably be an upgrade with a little work with Toub. And he's going to be cheap for the foreseeable future.

And even if Townsend was Ray Guy-good (which he is not)… no punter is worth that amount.

JPH83 02-22-2024 02:27 PM

Shame to see Tommy go but if this guy can catch and hold for Butker (and I guess there's no absolute guarantee) then it's a no-brainer. Absolute howitzer for a leg.

RaidersOftheCellar 02-22-2024 02:27 PM

Bills fans are pissed, so he must be good.

dlphg9 02-22-2024 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17413851)
LMAO Once he said Spagnuolo didn't REALLY mean it when he's said repeatedly over and over again he still wants to be a HC I just kind of gave up on engaging with him. You can literally find hard proof of something and if it goes against the narrative he's crafted in his head he'll do anything to disregard or ignore it. Completely pointless to interact with him.

Yeah, the dumb ass will argue about pretty much anything and will never ever change his mind.

staylor26 02-22-2024 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17413851)
LMAO Once he said Spagnuolo didn't REALLY mean it when he's said repeatedly over and over again he still wants to be a HC I just kind of gave up on engaging with him. You can literally find hard proof of something and if it goes against the narrative he's crafted in his head he'll do anything to disregard or ignore it. Completely pointless to interact with him.

He's quite honestly the most frustrating poster to go back and forth with on CP.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 02-22-2024 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balto (Post 17413855)
Townsend + only $28M for Jones

OR

Araiza + $32M for Jones

This move may of just got us to re sign Jones!! 28 mil was last year but after this years performance his price has gone up. 32 mil seems reasonable for what Jones brings. What a move Veach!!

tk13 02-22-2024 02:28 PM

The two actual questions about him are his ability to hold on FGs because he was the punter and FG kicker at SDSU. I don't know if he has much experience holding. And does he end up taking kickoff duties from Butker? Worst case we have two guys with monster legs who can kickoff.

KC_Connection 02-22-2024 02:28 PM

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/pla...nty-percentage

Townsend was bottom tier on percentage inside the 20 this year. Also only about league average in yards per punt.

They can do better.

DRM08 02-22-2024 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17413833)
If Townsend does end up being way too expensive then ok... Great move

Tommy’s agent is Tyreek’s agent. He’s moving to another team.

loochy 02-22-2024 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17413862)
He's quite honestly the most frustrating poster to go back and forth with on CP.


Donger says "whatup"

DJ's left nut 02-22-2024 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17413857)
And even if Townsend was Ray Guy-good (which he is not)… no punter is worth that amount.

He was maaaaaybe a top 10 punter this year? I mean Cole has proven to be a set and forget badass - the only real consistent elite punter the league's had in a bit. Dickson as well. The rest are almost always up and down.

Y'all remember Jack Fox? We had him in several years back to compete with Colquitt (or maybe even Townsend). Fox has been better than Townsend the last couple years.

And frankly the difference between the 5th best punter and the 25th best punter means pretty much dick.

This just makes so much sense. Because in the end even if Araiza is screwed up by the year off, there's gonna be some other vet minimum schlub that can go out there and be near enough to average to not make a difference.

And near enough to average was all Townsend was this year.

Let him go chase his record deal - I'm extremely happy it won't be here. That's essentially going to cover the cost of Tranquill returning and there's just nothing but good things to say about that.

RedinTexas 02-22-2024 02:29 PM

I assume Townsend wants a big contract. We don't really have excess money to spare on our punter. Something that looks really good is right there for us.

No bitterness toward Townsend. No hard feelings. I like the guy and I appreciate some of the things he's done for us like the great job on the hold in the Super Bowl for Butker's long FG. I hope he does well in his quest for a big contract, but we desperately need that money to extend other players that play a much more critical role.

TwistedChief 02-22-2024 02:29 PM

Veach literally stole Butker and now got this guy.

Wow. I can’t believe I just watched punter highlights. This is such a great move.

chiefs1111 02-22-2024 02:30 PM

Has anyone looked to see if there is a melt down about this on Two Bills Drive yet?

FloridaMan88 02-22-2024 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefs1111 (Post 17413874)
Has anyone looked to see if there is a melt down about this on Two Bills Drive yet?

Of course there is.

https://www.twobillsdrive.com/commun...s-with-chiefs/

DJ's left nut 02-22-2024 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balto (Post 17413855)
Townsend + only $28M for Jones

OR

Araiza + $32M for Jones

Shouldn't change what we pay Jones - offer him what you think he's worth. If he takes it, fantastic. If not, move along.

But it frees up enough space for the kind of moves that paid huge dividends on the fringes of the roster for us the last several seasons. Again, to my eyes its actually:

Townsend

or

Araiza + Tranquill

That's an easy choice.

Iconic 02-22-2024 02:31 PM

Honestly may have upgraded. Tommy was good but I never felt he did a great job of pinning guys. Araiza got the nickname punt god for a reason. Let's see what he's got.

New World Order 02-22-2024 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefs1111 (Post 17413874)
Has anyone looked to see if there is a melt down about this on Two Bills Drive yet?

"It's like they're rubbing our noses in it.

I seriously hate them more than NE.
"

https://www.twobillsdrive.com/commun...ge/3/#comments

IowaHawkeyeChief 02-22-2024 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17413853)
Right?

And the guy's probably going to want $4-5 million to stay.

I've been saying we needed to let Townsend go for months. I have no interest in re-signing the guy. And this is a killer replacement who can probably be an upgrade with a little work with Toub. And he's going to be cheap for the foreseeable future.

I didn't realize he was a pretty decent placekicker in college as well. Not that he will replace Butker, but if we Butker gets hurt in game, he's much better than Reid. Tommy is good, but this guy could be great. We get a couple of WR's, we aren't going to punt much anyway though...

staylor26 02-22-2024 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17413876)
Shouldn't change what we pay Jones - offer him what you think he's worth. If he takes it, fantastic. If not, move along.

But it frees up enough space for the kind of moves that paid huge dividends on the fringes of the roster for us the last several seasons. Again, to my eyes its actually:

Townsend

or

Araiza + Tranquill

That's an easy choice.

Exxxactly.

Or for another example, might be the difference in brining back Donovan Smith this year.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 02-22-2024 02:34 PM

Araiza had an 82 yard punt in his first preseason game

staylor26 02-22-2024 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17413879)
"It's like they're rubbing our noses in it.

I seriously hate them more than NE.
"

https://www.twobillsdrive.com/commun...ge/3/#comments

"The Chiefs are our daddy. I'm so depressed."

LMAO

ChiefsCountry 02-22-2024 02:35 PM

Thats the right move you make. Replace similar with younger and cheaper. Great move Bart.

And Zillas dumbass not liking the move makes it even better

Rain Man 02-22-2024 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17413865)
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/pla...nty-percentage

Townsend was bottom tier on percentage inside the 20 this year. Also only about league average in yards per punt.

They can do better.

The punting world has changed dramatically over the past 20 years. For decades a 45 yard gross average would make you the best in the league. In 2023 we had six punters who grossed more than 50 (not counting a 7th who had just three punts). 29 punters (with 20+ attempts) grossed 45 or better.

I wonder what's changed so much. I don't think it can be just raw strength. There must be some technique change that's producing more yards.

Dante84 02-22-2024 02:35 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here’s some info on why the case against Araiza was dismissed. <a href="https://t.co/qYNTOva6Tl">https://t.co/qYNTOva6Tl</a> <a href="https://t.co/6UfzhF45LM">https://t.co/6UfzhF45LM</a> <a href="https://t.co/xaY1RMyxus">pic.twitter.com/xaY1RMyxus</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Kiley (@BKSportsTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/BKSportsTalk/status/1760761774381445329?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 22, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

siberian khatru 02-22-2024 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 17413864)
The two actual questions about him are his ability to hold on FGs because he was the punter and FG kicker at SDSU. I don't know if he has much experience holding. And does he end up taking kickoff duties from Butker? Worst case we have two guys with monster legs who can kickoff.

One more question: Does he have a laser rocket arm to make pinpoint passes on fake punts the way Tommy did?

FloridaMan88 02-22-2024 02:36 PM

Townsend’s last punt as a Chief will be that fateful muffed punt by the 49ers play.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-22-2024 02:36 PM

I remember reading about this guy getting cleared and thinking man, that ****ing sucks he's never going to get a career he earned.

Good on Andy and Veach.

RunKC 02-22-2024 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17413823)
Sorry, don't get it.

I don't have any real opinion on the controversy, but he will be controversial fair or not. If this is just to give Townsend free agent competition there are a million who can do it without controversy. So why not just do that?

In Townsend we have a real good one and I really don't want to **** with the guy who holds for a kicker on an absolute tear right now. I hope araiza finds a good gig somewhere. He deserves it. I just don't think this is worth it

Butker is entering a contract year next year and he's 100% getting paid big money as he rightfully deserves.

This is a perfect way to afford that cost bc this kid can make a punt from his own end zone to the opponents 20 yard line.

He's gonna be awesome for field position

DJ's left nut 02-22-2024 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 17413882)
Araiza had an 82 yard punt in his first preseason game

Yeah, I saw some dipshit on Twitter go with "Ha! Just a touchback..."

Yeah - 62 yard nets are just the goddamn worst, aren't they?

That said, I think TBs start at the 25 on punts next year now don't they? He will need to improve in that area. I suspect he can. With that kind of leg strength, just put it higher and let your guys run under it.

Eleazar 02-22-2024 02:39 PM

Interesting. I guess if Townsend wanted big money he can look elsewhere. This seems like a great move.


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