4 Chiefs on the Chopping Block Next After Marquez Valdes-Scantling Release
 

https://kckingdom.com/posts/4-chiefs...01hqrede7421/4


So the real reason am posting this is the surprise that Reid is on this list. I didn’t think his play was as terribad as the article suggests. Did I miss something this year with his play? As far as the rest of the list goes… I agree.

Reid’s not on the real list JFC

kc kingdom dot com?

lmao

Yeah I know. I’m just surprised anyone suggesting that he be a cap saving cut. I was looking for opinions on his play this year. Cook and Connor would be cheaper for sure.

I don’t see Reid going anywhere unless he holds out for some ridiculous contract or something.

Oh lord Jesus. Can we talk about the content. I don’t think the article is far off.

I don’t disagree but was his play really that bad?

If PFF says he’s bad, he’s gotta be good.

Fair. Lol. I do despise PFF

This article written by Chiefs Kingdom Editorial Board?

If you ask me, PFF stands for Piss Fart Fudge!

Why are we posting analysis from a geocities webpage?

On Reid, I don’t think he’s bad but Conner has really stepped up and cook will be back. We just have depth at safety, the other safeties have played well also. Veach is just so good at drafting dbs. I think Reid is the mostly likely candidate to get cut.

Toney, while his play and antics would get most people cut, he’s just too talented and cheap to not keep around. Plus we don’t save anything by cutting him.

Niang is interesting. His play and injury history deserve a cut but again, he’s cheap and talented.

Omenihue is the one I strongly disagree with. His game is improving. He played huge in the ravens win. That strip fumble was a huge play in that game. And he’s a perfect fit for what spags runs. these athletes are recovering so quickly from injury now. It’s incredible. No chance he gets cut.

Reads like ChatGPT

So should we start a thread if someone on Twitter says something too that doesn’t seem grounded in logic?

No one thinks he’s going to be cut. Obviously. That’s why when you read it you ignore it and never read that stupid website again.

I don't think they can cut Omenihu while he is injured and on IR.

We are not cutting Toney or Niang just to save a few million. Maybe for production but not to save money.

Charles Omenihu will stay. They want an insurance policy for the playoffs if there is a bunch of injuries.

Reid is the only one we could save money on but he was fantastic last year. He slacks off next year, he's not getting paid on the next contract. I'd keep him. He will ball out next year.

Why isn't Skyy Moore on there? He's dogshit and unlike Toney, his rookie contract isn't fully guaranteed.

He's not making shit on his rookie deal. Maybe it clicks with him this year. He's got a good burst. I doubt they give up on him now. But, he plays like he has this year, he's gone.

No way they are moving on from Omenihu, even though he is recovering from the ACL.. Dumb article is dumb.

Justin Reid isn't getting cut... This dude needs to do more research if he wants people to take his articles seriously. What a joke.

Niang is tackle depth that’s cheap.. He only played in the Charger gm where everyone played all over the place on the line.. He’s a former starter who would be fine if pushed into duty. Article is still dumb..

Wendy's receipt flies out of Reid's open truck window on to parking lot. Rage builds until article written

He plays like he did this year he will be a healthy scratch for many games...and looking for gainful employment elsewhere

Good points in the article, I'm not going to bang on it.

I think they are being fair about the cost of Reid versus the talent but I think there is some credit in quality leadership and ability to keep the secondary in proper alignments and assignments. He does those things. I think there would be value in trading him if they truly did want to chop some money out there but I really don't think they will get rid of him.

I am on the Toney is a goner bandwagon. Punching your ticket into Reid's doghouse is never a great thing to do but he managed it. I'm sure they'll dangle him out there for a late conditional just to ensure his salary comes off the books though.

Niang is not the type of player you cut. He's on a rookie deal, he's been good enough as a depth piece so far in his career, he plays a valuable position, he hasn't caused strife, and you gain nothing by letting him go.

I think I've stated that I think Omenihu is easy. You offer the guy an extension with the caveat that he lowers his 2024 hit substantially, if not to vet minimum, so that he can rehab and maybe be of some value sometime in November through the playoffs otherwise you cut him and get someone that will be of value through the season. I wouldn't be sentimental over him. Sure, he played well, but business is business.

OTC shows Toney with a $0 cap savings if cut because his $2.5MM is guaranteed.

These fools don't know WTF they are talking about.

On the Reid thing I think you try to extend him at a cheaper cost and if that doesn't work out I would cut him. He is good but he isn't $14MM in cap good.

I don't see them cutting Niang unless they draft a tackle they really like, we dont have a lot of options there currently. He is cheap at $1MM.

Stupid article.

1. Reid has a much greater chance of being extended vs cut.

2. No team is trading for Kadarius

4. Omenihu isn't going anywhere. Especially if Jones leaves.

Read the last sentence of the Toney portion. They mention a trade.

I bet someone out there would flip us a 6 or 7 for him.

Is it not possible to have a discussion about the facts presented in the article without completely dismissing the article because of the source? I know (as much as a fan can) that Reid isn’t being cut. But the author does present some pretty compelling statistics. My question in the OP is “was Reid really that bad last year?” And everyone goes off the deep end - welcome to the CP equivalent of listening to respond rather than to understand (reading to respond rather than understand).

No one is trading even a bag of used toilet paper for him.

Do you think the massive amounts of suck he possess is only known in KC?

If this was the first team he was on it might be different. Getting traded twice for being an uncoachable flaming bag of dogshit. won't happen.

That’s another one I’m trying to wrap my brain around. He isn’t projected to return until week 8 if everything goes well. He would be getting paid handsomely to have only played in 25 of 39 games (assuming we go to the SB next year 22/36 w/o Playoffs).

What the **** is Reid doing on there?

None of his 24 salary is guaranteed and some of the money is gameday roster bonuses. Really won't be that big a hit.

Ah. That is good to know. Thank you for that piece of information. That definitely makes holding on to him easier and hopefully with a full recovery extending him.

I disagree but I suppose time will tell.

He looked promising for us in 2022 and made key plays on the biggest stage before regressing badly in 2023. I think some talent-starved team would be willing to give him a chance.

They can cut Omenihu and save $. He wants paid alot, isn't gonna do an extension here at this point so just cut him and let him move on.

https://i.imgur.com/50BF508.png

No one is trading for that.

Especially when you add the off the field crap on social media.

If people really took that approach, there already would've been a mass exodus here after reading your bullshit. Especially when you're spit shining your thread police badge lmao.

Its almost like you don't want the message board to do what a message board is supposed to do, which is generate as much discussion as possible.

You just get your panties twisted, and engage in commentary about how this thread wasn't needed, because you weren't interested in it yet were still compelled to enter, and post in it.

We get it. You're cool. You're "above" these sort of topics.

Just scroll past, pimp.

Last year of multi-year contract with higher price tag in last year.

Pretty typical that no one involved expects them to play last year of the contract for full cap hit.

Like others have said, extension is more likely than cut. But if he won't sign a reasonable extension I would not be shocked if he is allowed to walk. Positional value not value of the player's contribution is the reason.

Excellent post sir. I wholeheartedly agree about Reid - he just seems to have the leadership and alignment stuff down for the secondary guys. I have never really looked at coverage stats for safeties before so I was a bit shocked but as a Safety I think coverage #'s get a pass because they aren't supposed to be locked 1 on 1 with guys all the time, its a part of their job, but not their whole job - if he were a CB this would be another discussion.

Perhaps I was a bit unnecessarily harsh toward him and for that I apologize.

But you’re the last one who should be commenting on the matter after this gem:

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=352398

We definitely need more discussion like that!

Probably not. And it sucks that he may miss a significant portion of the season, one would assume that he should be back in time for a playoff run.

There's a lot of truth to this. I have noticed some of these on social media lately and yeah, I do exactly what you said.

But in fairness, I think DC is correct that it is at least worth a bit of discussion.

IMO, I think Reid has played decently the last couple of years. My eyes are saying something completely different than what this article is saying.

True. And it also doesn't give him credit for what he did in the running game. I specifically remember him making some big plays in the Ravens game.

Anyone remember a poster on here "Mic Jones"? He would write terrible articles like this

He hit and tackled like a truck in the playoffs and Super Bowl. He’s smart as hell and seems to be a great person to be around. A natural leader.

He lacked production and had social media outbursts in New York yet we still traded for him.

Your best argument is that they continued here with the best franchise in the league, but the fact remains that he does have talent. If you’re running a team like the Panthers, Titans, Patriots, etc. who lack playmakers and need to develop a QB, I think you’d be crazy not to consider flipping a 7th rounder for him.

He is not likely to pan out to much but neither is a typical 7th rounder.

I vaguely remember that handle. Don't remember the articles you mention.

We need to keep Reid, I don't think he's going anywhere

What does that mean? I'm not sure I've seen anything to justify that.

It's not just his coverage; he misses a lot of tackles as well. We were all bitching bout that early in the season in the GDTs. He cleaned that up as the season wore on, but it's been an issue for Reid since he was drafted. 2023 was actually one of his cleaner years in both categories.

But through the first couple months of 2023, Reid was giving up a vs. Passer Rating of around 117 iirc. Basically, he was making every QB look like Mahomes when he was targeted. Again, he got better as the season progressed, but he still finished the season allowing a PR of almost 90.0, which is still too high for what he's getting paid. And Reid has never been particularly good in coverage.

It's all moot though; we're almost certainly extending him.

I don't see them cutting Omenihu.

Why the **** would we cute Reid? He brings the physicality that this defense needs. He had 95 tackles this year and 3 sacks (another 1.5 in the playoffs). Reid would be one of the last players to be cut on this team. Hes the leader of the DB room.

Maybe because he makes most QBs look like Kirk Cousins and he misses about 10% of his tackles?

You think his play is worth a $14MM cap hit next year? I don't.

Sorry you're unable to detect sarcasm. Were you by chance one of the hand wringers weeping for poor abused Andy?

Lmao.

Oh I didn't get that far I was getting brain damage reading the article.

But no way in hell is anyone giving us a pick and paying Toney $2.5MM next year.

This is gold LMAO

We all knew you were being sarcastic. It’s the fact that you spent a good amount of time to write it up feeling like it was clever when everyone felt it was a cringey and lame attempt at humor.

Its amazing you still don’t understand that.

Idk, man. Looks like you agree with the Reid mention.

And he just mentions Toney as being a guy who could be “on the chopping block”, meaning the team may look to get rid of him.

Makes sense to me. Not sure why everyone in here is up in arms about this article.

I also disagree that no one would trade for Toney. Obviously time will tell but why wouldn’t a team like New England, Arizona, maybe Chicago or the Panthers flip a 7 for a guy who could potentially develop into a playmaker? He’s shown the ability in spurts.

He averages less yards per season than Skyy Moore and has obvious issues with injuries and has had a bad reputation with both teams he's been on as far as team chemistry.

This "potential playmaker" thing is a myth. 25% of his yards came from one game that was a 24 point blowout ffs

I never said he was great or has yet to put it all together, but he can be electric with the ball in his hands. If you disagree with that then idk what we have to talk about.

I do to be honest…. He brings the wood and is the leader of the DB room. With Sneed most likely gone, you have to keep Reid

He brings the wood and is smart.

Whatever happens we still have Cook who really was playing well til he got injured and I thought Connor was pretty brilliant when he played. Then you have McDuffie who I will argue is the best CB in the league and Williams is a serviceable starter. Pretty comfortable playing Watson too. Even if we for whatever reason we're to dump Reid & trade Sneed that's still a pretty damn good secondary