NBA's Jontay Porter under investigation for betting irregularities
 

Is this about to become a thing? Seems like a dangerous precedent where part time role players can affect sporting events in the name of gambling.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...betting-issues

Who?

I’ll wait until his translator makes a statement before I pass judgement.

Vegas knows every trend, especially when they lose their ass.

So what did he actually do?

Huge bets on the under for his stats, and he just happens to leave each game with an "injury".


He's a relative nobody, for the bettors to make his prop bet #1 at the perfect time is what set off the red flags.

You are nuts if you don't think this happens in the NFL too

It would be a little harder to control, but it wouldn't surprise me.

Yeah, not a nothingburger here.

You could have always done this. You could sign up for an offshore book, assumed name, no social and made a killing. If they use a regulated site at least we can catch them if they are doing it maliciously. In a much better spot than ever before.

I wonder if Josh Allen bets the over for his interceptions

I see nothing that is out of the ordinary. The dude is made of glass.

Exactly, but that's the bad part. In some ways this is a bigger deal than Ohtani because you have a guy tanking to miss his prop bets and affecting his team's performance.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Betting limits on NBA player props vary by sportsbook and customer, but are typically around $1,000 to $2,000. “People were trying to do whatever they could to bet Jontay Porter props [against the Clippers],” the source said. “And then, just a few days ago, the same thing. We had…</p>&mdash; Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) <a href="https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1772428219179827465?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Number one prop bet for two nights in the entire NBA from a scrub. That's a red flag.

Gamblers are just dipshits. You got away with it once. Going for round two busted it.

So what is the data on the full game he played? Did the prop bets come in the same or were they significantly less on that game? Let's see the whole picture.

The biggest issue is that there were people trying to place unusually large bets on those games that he happened to leave early on. Just him leaving early both games isn't a big deal. An unusual number of bets on them peaks interest.

This likely happens a lot more than anybody thinks, but you’d have to be an idiot to get caught. Appears that Porter is.

Unfortunately for Porter, he was raised by parents who did a combination of religious-based home schooling and sending him to unaffiliated Christian schools or basketball academies.

He and Michael and all the rest were horribly sheltered from the world and entered adulthood woefully behind socially.

He’s a naive kid and it doesn’t take much to exploit one.

Far different story told here:

High school career
Much like his older brother Michael, Jontay started out his high school career playing under the Father Tolton Regional Catholic High School in their home town of Columbia, Missouri. In his freshman year, he averaged 11.8 points and 7.8 rebounds per game for Father Tolton before being a key figure in helping them win the Missouri Class 3 State Championship for the first time during his sophomore season. In his junior year of high school, Jontay and Michael, along with their younger brother Coban, would move to Seattle, Washington after his father earned an assistant coaching job at the University of Washington for their basketball team. During Jontay and Michael's time at Nathan Hale High School, the brothers would be coached by former NBA All-Star Brandon Roy, who would help lead the squad to a perfect 29–0 record and the Washington Class 3A State Championship. Under the coaching of Roy, Porter would average a double-double of 14.3 points and 13.6 rebounds per game for Nathan Hale High School, thus earning a name for himself alongside his older brother.
Porter was previously a recruit under the Class of 2018, with him being ranked as high as 11th overall by ESPN at one point.[1] However, after his father was hired as an assistant coach for the University of Missouri, his older brother changed his commitment from the University of Washington to his hometown University of Missouri, and Brandon Roy changed coaching positions from Nathan Hale to Garfield High School, Jontay would reclassify himself into the Class of 2017 alongside his brother, joining his family out at the University of Missouri. Between his time preparing for his transfer from high school into college, Porter would gain two more inches to his body, thus allowing him to play as a power forward, with center being a viable possibility as well.

All the kids homeschooled until high school, at which point they went to high school to play sports.

Father Tolton is accredited now. I thought it was not an accredited private institution when the Porters enrolled - I was thinking of Christian Fellowship, possibly (that’s where Ricky Kreklow first went).

But while they were at Nathan Hale, it was pretty well publicized they were full school members - they were home schooling most of the time and participating in sports.

As someone who was home schooled under similar circumstances (religion, control) and interacted heavily with dozens of additional home school families in my area through “support groups” I have yet to see someone who didn’t end up extremely sheltered and behind the curve socially - myself included.

Not even talking about the academic side of things. Different ball of wax.

My point was that these were kids who were never really normal students and they have been behind socially the whole way. There is naivety present with all the Porters, including the girls.

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I would be surprised. The thing is with the NFL, there are much easier ways to win money than intentionally ruining your stats like porter did. You know the game plan going in, so it’s far easier to just text your friend and say “boom/bust WR 2 on our team is going to have a huge day because we saw something on tape” or “we are going to be throwing more than usual so take the over on completions and the under for RB yards”. That way you aren’t betting on the same guy over and over and you naturally are betting people who draw more action, like the star wr or qb. You also don’t have to worry about hurting your own performance and the outcome for the team. The nba is much more chaotic and unpredictable on any given night so you can’t really do this, and thus is much more likely to have someone do something as an individual actor.

The number one predictor of conspiring to throw a game for the purpose of sports betting gains is being homeschooled so I’m not surprised.

NBA is lame as **** anyway

I laughed out loud at the gym.

Not quite what I was saying. Saying he’s a naive kid and talking about contributing things to that.

Haha, no worries, I get it. All of the information I have ever had about this person comes from the last few posts of this thread.

NBA is unwatchable.

I mean sure, if you don’t like watching basketball played with the highest degrees of skill and athleticism and analytics-driven strategy.

Remember when CP thought they could game the system and beat the Vegas casinos in Fan Duel? Good times from dipshits.

Come on

Dear betting companies. I didn't have insider information when I bet on Skyy Moore having less than 20 receiving yards. I won my money fairly on the basis that he's dogshit.

It’s a much better product than basketball anywhere else in the world.

There’s no need to come on.

If you are betting Jontay Porter prop bets... you definitely have a gambling problem.

It's awful. No defense, Fake flopping, Sensitive "stars" who get into it with fans, awful politics. It's a shitty league.

Or inside information...

mutt is an idiot. News at 10

It was absolutely hilarious

Put the crack pipe away. :facepalm:

Throw away the blotter of LSD

Stop sniffing glue

If you like college basketball more than the NBA, that's your preference man.

I mean, there are people who prefer college football to the NFL or prefer whatever the Rock's minor league football league is to the NFL, and if they want to enjoy an inferior product, more power to them.

No LSD consumed in the formation of this opinion.

Just personal experience with home schooling. And talking to people who covered the Porters while they were playing at Mizzou (which is a lot longer period than the two years Michael/Jontay were on the roster and their dad "coached" the team). And having connections at Father Tolton.

1. NBA is a pussy league: no defense, run up and down with dunk by 6' 6" guys whoopdee doo, guys take off every other game and supposed to be in great shape and paid $25 million a year, political wankers.

2. To pick on home schooling when the education system in this country is abysmal and graduates can't do shit is quite rich.

3. European players are purists and are some of the leagues best players.

I wouldn't attend an NBA game if it was free.

1. Go find some clouds to shout at, dude. And maybe watch some actual NBA games, because your comments sure make you sound like you don't.

2. As someone who survived it and spent literally years living within home schooling, I can pick on it all I want. What's your experience with it? Have you done it? Experienced it yourself? Spent decades interacting with other home schoolers? I have first-hand knowledge here. And second-hand knowledge re: the Porter kids that fits right in with the sheltering and maturity stunting I experienced and saw first-hand.

3. Love Euro guys.

And I'm not even an NBA hardcore fan. I'm casual. But it's laughable when people try to claim the college game is a better example of how hoops should be played or something like that.

NBA allows the players to have way too much control, which makes the product suffer. NBA has the worst commissioner for the big 4 sports by far. They went from the GOAT in David Stern to the worst in Silver. The sports media coddles the NBA more than any other sport. It's just a bad product. There is no denying its the best basketball in the world. But you can put the best actors in the world in a movie and it still turn out to be a bad movie.

The euros are by far the worst defensive players in the league.