ChiefsPlanet

ChiefsPlanet (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/index.php)
-   Nzoner's Game Room (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=1)
-   -   Cardinals BFIB give ovation for Skenes (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=353733)

Pablo 06-12-2024 02:12 PM

BFIB give ovation for Skenes
 
LMAO

wtf is this absolutely pathetic cuck behavior?

https://www.si.com/mlb/paul-skenes-d...cardinals-fans

Mephistopheles Janx 06-12-2024 02:24 PM

The Cardinal fans who paid to be there were just happy to see good baseball on that day.

T-post Tom 06-12-2024 02:29 PM

And to a division rival? Seems a bit much.

ThrobProng 06-12-2024 02:31 PM

6 1/3rd innings. :rolleyes:

****ing baseball.

Pablo 06-12-2024 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 17549537)
And to a division rival? Seems a bit much.

They all high fived and sniffed each others farts immediately after the ovation.

“We really are the best, aren’t we??”

“Sure are. Salt of the earth honest Midwestern folk!”

chiefzilla1501 06-12-2024 02:34 PM

It’s weird as hell.

But I’ll tell you what, that dude is fun to watch and it’s not just because of his girlfriend. Dude is an incredible pitcher

DJ's left nut 06-12-2024 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17549512)
LMAO

wtf is this absolutely pathetic cuck behavior?

https://www.si.com/mlb/paul-skenes-d...cardinals-fans

The BFIB jerk themselves off to their own earnestness.

I said it when I saw it last night and that one guy did like 4 exaggerated cap tips. It was ****ing pathetic.

He didn't no-hit you. He didn't even exit with the lead. He was good. For almost a whole 7 innings. He gets a standing ovation for that nonsense?

****ing BFIB. These are the same clowns that gave Brandon Moss a standing ovation for getting traded to them. And Paul DeJong a standing ovation when he came back as a White Sox after he sucked for the better part of a half decade.

It's pathetic and performative garbage.

These idiots are the reason DeWitt won't make any meaningful change. He knows he has clowns like this that will lap up whatever gruel he serves them and then pat themselves on the back for being so compliant.

scho63 06-12-2024 02:54 PM

It's been a very, very long time since anyone can cheer for the Pirates or their players.

We haven't been a real threat to anyone for 45 years and a minor obstacle during McCutchen's best years.

Not worth getting your panties in a bunch over this.

Ocotillo 06-12-2024 03:33 PM

Is it any different than the beta Sporting KC fans that simped for Messi at Arrowhead Stadium?

ThrobProng 06-12-2024 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 17549648)
Is it any different than the beta Sporting KC fans that simped for Messi at Arrowhead Stadium?

You expect it from soccer fans. Lol

MarkDavis'Haircut 06-12-2024 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17549572)
It's been a very, very long time since anyone can cheer for the Pirates or their players.

We haven't been a real threat to anyone for 45 years and a minor obstacle during McCutchen's best years.

Not worth getting your panties in a bunch over this.

Yup.

But hey if it means the self-proclaimed BFIB want to prop up a Bucco, so be it.

George Liquor 06-12-2024 03:51 PM

Those dumbasses gave Paul Dejong a standing O too like it was Yadi returning to Busch.

They keep Bill and Mo fat and happy.

(I see DJ already said it more eloquently than I did)

RealSNR 06-12-2024 03:57 PM

This thread is full of knuckle-dragging simpletons who will never be able to figure out the complicated rocket surgery math that is the double switch.

The BFIB have tried to teach us all about it but we're just too stupid to appreciate its majestic beauty.

George Liquor 06-12-2024 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17549686)
This thread is full of knuckle-dragging simpletons who will never be able to figure out the complicated rocket surgery math that is the double switch.

The BFIB have tried to teach us all about it but we're just too stupid to appreciate its majestic beauty.

Not our fault you plebs wanted DH in both leagues.

TLO 06-12-2024 04:51 PM

I don't know what a BFIB is....

Big ****ing Idiot Birds?

Megatron96 06-12-2024 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17549761)
I don't know what a BFIB is....

Big ****ing Idiot Birds?




Bros effed in butts?


Buy Fudge In Barrels?


Bees Fly In Bunches?

Pablo 06-12-2024 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17549761)
I don't know what a BFIB is....

Big ****ing Idiot Birds?

Biggest bundle of stickss In Baseball

Vladimir_Kyrilytch 06-12-2024 06:32 PM

Pitchers with stuff like Skenes end up getting Tommy John real quick. He's Stephen Strasburg 2.0, essentially, with a 102mph heater and 4 other pitches that are all good that he commands.

Strasburg got his Tommy John his rookie season and of course was never the same.

So how many starts does Skenes have left before he goes the same route? 5? 8? Maybe 12?

How much is it worth to you to see one of those 5-12 starts? I'd personally pay a significant premium to see a pitcher with that type of stuff during the very brief window while he still has it. I went to a Royals game a few weeks ago and it was $50 per ticket for pretty good seats and I wouldn't think twice about paying 10 times that if it somehow was a Skenes start.

So, these aren't normal Cardinals fans that were at that game. People that are indifferent to the visiting pitcher would have sold their tickets. People that would pay a premium to see that pitcher would have bought em. That's the crowd giving him a standing ovation, not run-of-the-mill Cards fans.

RealSNR 06-12-2024 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdj23 (Post 17549711)
Not our fault you plebs wanted DH in both leagues.

I'm sorry the straaaaategggy is just so complicated for my tiny brain to handle! Please don't explain to me again why watching a bunch of sumo wrestlers attempt to dance a goddamn ballet is superior or else my brain will explode!

BigRedChief 06-12-2024 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17549512)
LMAO

wtf is this absolutely pathetic cuck behavior?

https://www.si.com/mlb/paul-skenes-d...cardinals-fans

Like others have said, it’s a thing at Cardinals stadiums going back decades. Now, they give it for everything. A career .250 hitter that the Cardinals let walk due to being a waste of money, standing upon return to Bush.

It use to be for a HOF level player making his last appearance, giving up a no hitter in the 9.2 inning that kind of thing.

Like DJ said, those fans attending games these days are idiots.

Jewish Rabbi 06-12-2024 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 17549648)
Is it any different than the beta Sporting KC fans that simped for Messi at Arrowhead Stadium?

I mean at least Messi is the GOAT. And no one gives a **** about MLS anyway 95% of people there just went so they could say they saw him.

George Liquor 06-12-2024 07:20 PM

BBOSIB doesn't really have the same ring to it though

Pasta Little Brioni 06-12-2024 07:25 PM

You know damn well Pablo jerked it to the Battlehawks loss Sunday ROFL

Vladimir_Kyrilytch 06-12-2024 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 17549991)
I mean at least Messi is the GOAT. And no one gives a **** about MLS anyway 95% of people there just went so they could say they saw him.

The only difference between Skenes being some dude and Skenes being the legit GOAT is health and longevity. Two variables working against him big time absolutely, but you can't buy a ticket to watch health and longevity in person. You can watch Skenes pitch now at GOAT levels of pitching. He doesn't touch 102 he averages it. There has never been a pitcher with better stuff with command than him. You could argue that 3-5 ever have had as good of stuff but no starter (or reliever) has ever averaged more than 102mph on their 4 seamer in baseball history.

Pasta Little Brioni 06-12-2024 07:28 PM

Ovation was for they read this board and found out he's hitting Livvy Dunne

alanm 06-12-2024 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17550010)
Ovation was for they read this board and found out he's hitting Livvy Dunne

That makes more sense.

Chief Roundup 06-12-2024 08:30 PM

So if the Cardinal fans show support and praise for a good player it is a bad thing.
When opponents fans show support for Mahomes it is a good thing.....

New World Order 06-12-2024 09:10 PM

Cardinals fans are douches...and flaming homosexuals.

BigRedChief 06-12-2024 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17550169)
Cardinals fans are douches...and flaming homosexuals.

NTTIAWWT

Pablo 06-13-2024 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 17550104)
So if the Cardinal fans show support and praise for a good player it is a bad thing.
When opponents fans show support for Mahomes it is a good thing.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17550169)
Cardinals fans are douches...and flaming homosexuals.

Yes

Also yes

TwistedChief 06-13-2024 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vladimir_Kyrilytch (Post 17550004)
The only difference between Skenes being some dude and Skenes being the legit GOAT is health and longevity. Two variables working against him big time absolutely, but you can't buy a ticket to watch health and longevity in person. You can watch Skenes pitch now at GOAT levels of pitching. He doesn't touch 102 he averages it. There has never been a pitcher with better stuff with command than him. You could argue that 3-5 ever have had as good of stuff but no starter (or reliever) has ever averaged more than 102mph on their 4 seamer in baseball history.

I think the best comp in terms of velocity and control is de Grom, and de Grom at his peak has been the most dominant SP I've ever seen. Definitely exciting and we'll see if he can get past the injury history of de Grom/Prior/Wood/Strasburg.

DJ's left nut 06-13-2024 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17550392)
I think the best comp in terms of velocity and control is de Grom, and de Grom at his peak has been the most dominant SP I've ever seen. Definitely exciting and we'll see if he can get past the injury history of de Grom/Prior/Wood/Strasburg.

He can't. He won't.

Anyone that throws like that has been to those 'performance optimization camps' that teach them how to get max velo and spin on every pitch they throw.

Those guys break. Twice. If you're lucky, they come back relatively quickly and almost completely intact.

But Skenes isn't going to hover at 102 mph for 5 seasons. I doubt he makes it 3. He'll break down, miss a year (nowadays they bring them back so slowly it's almost 2), give you 4-5 healthy seasons and probably break down again. Then by 32 when he comes back from the 2nd implosion, he will probably be working around 95-96 and be more like Garret Cole who's made efforts at finding the line between his peak stuff and staying on the mound.

There are no unicorns in these scenarios. We're working the body in a way that gives no heed at all to the fact that ligaments can only take so much strain. And every mechanical tweak designed to increase stuff does so by creating more strain on those ligaments. It's a Sophie's choice.

For me, Skenes should be dialed back. He should be throwing 97/98 with less aggressive mechanics that allow him to throw 200+ innings and get outs with natural movement and stuff that's still damn good.

But MLB teams have decided otherwise. They're willing to grind these guys into powder and if they're not willing to come along for the ride, they tend to get left behind.

Ocotillo 06-14-2024 10:59 AM

Remember Noah Syndergaard bulked up one offseason and came out firing with triple digit heat in Grapefruit League play? That was when he was in his prime and he didn't last too long.

I heard Ron Washington in a radio interview recently and they have a reliever Ben Joyce that can dial it up to 104. Washington said his advice to Joyce has been to try to locate his fastball at 98 and only use the 104 when he really needs it in a pressure situation.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:12 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.