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Hammock Parties 09-08-2024 11:17 PM

Texans watch
 
I think we are on a collision course with Proto-Mahomes

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">3rd and 13, on the run, across the body — first down. <br><br>C.J. Stroud is a sicko <a href="https://t.co/TSuKbpnGfu">pic.twitter.com/TSuKbpnGfu</a></p>&mdash; Chancellor Johnson (@ChancellorTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChancellorTV/status/1832859969135227210?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 8, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

DRM08 09-08-2024 11:22 PM

Stroud had a couple throws today that should have been interceptions. Last year he was very careful with the ball. Seems to be more aggressive this year.

cdcox 09-08-2024 11:32 PM

Troll or stupid? I used to think troll but leaning toward you just being dumb.

Show me thirty of these plays and his stat line before crowning the next Mahomes.

KCBlitz 09-08-2024 11:35 PM

Well he’s no Caleb Williams.

ThyKingdomCome15 09-08-2024 11:35 PM

They're really good but not as good as the Ravens. They're playing better football than CIN at the moment. I put them in a three way tie with MIA and BUF as the third tier teams in the AFC. JAX takes the fourth tier.

Bump 09-08-2024 11:36 PM

Josh Allen has a serious competitor for 2nd best QB in the NFL

New World Order 09-08-2024 11:39 PM

They’re our new Bengals.

Great qb

Plenty of weapons

Good enough defense

Hammock Parties 09-08-2024 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 17670426)
Troll or stupid? I used to think troll but leaning toward you just being dumb.

Show me thirty of these plays and his stat line before crowning the next Mahomes.

Did you miss his rookie season?

tk13 09-09-2024 12:14 AM

Their weapons are legit. They have a 3 headed monster at WR that's honestly probably better than the Bengals group. The real problem is Mixon had 178 total yards today and looked great. They were horrible running the ball last year. If they can start punishing you like that for trying to guard their speed at WR they're going to be a pain to defend.

Hammock Parties 09-09-2024 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 17670443)
Their weapons are legit. They have a 3 headed monster at WR that's honestly probably better than the Bengals group. The real problem is Mixon had 178 total yards today and looked great. They were horrible running the ball last year. If they can start punishing you like that for trying to guard their speed at WR they're going to be a pain to defend.

Their offense worries me more than any Bengals team we've faced.

They will be a strong contender for the one seed, and they absolutely cannot have that. Houston would not be a fun place for us to play.

Dante84 09-09-2024 01:14 AM

I felt like the Lions, Eagles, and Ravens looked like best teams outside of us this week.The Bills looked alright in the 2nd half of their game. Dolphins offense was fast, per usual.

Obviously we’ll see what the 49ers and Jets look like tomorrow.

Still feeling great about our chances.

TEX 09-09-2024 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 17670428)
They're really good but not as good as the Ravens. They're playing better football than CIN at the moment. I put them in a three way tie with MIA and BUF as the third tier teams in the AFC. JAX takes the fourth tier.

Thry're better than the Ravens IMO. Their QB can throw the football and they have many more skill position players. Stroud is in the same class with Allen and Burrow. In fact, he may just be the head of that class. They also have excellent coaching.

TEX 09-09-2024 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17670451)
I felt like the Lions, Eagles, and Ravens looked like best teams outside of us this week.The Bills looked alright in the 2nd half of their game. Dolphins offense was fast, per usual.

Obviously we’ll see what the 49ers and Jets look like tomorrow.

Still feeling great about our chances.

The Ravens did not look all that good.

UChieffyBugger 09-09-2024 02:41 AM

Texans defense looked very vulnerable imo. Their secondary got beat over and over again by Pierce and Mitchell. The first time Pierce beat their best two corners Lassiter and Stingley on a simple deep ball and then Richardson missed AD Mitchell twice with deep balls after he beat his man down field and was wide open.

Offensively they were OK but were bailed out big time by soft penalties that negated two picks and also gave them fresh downs inside the ten when they were stopped. They possessed the ball for 40 minutes, had 213 rushing yards and only won by two points against a QB who has only played a handful of games? Not overly impressed tbh.

And next week they have Caleb who looked like utter garbage today. So I'd expect them to win that one aswell. And no, they aren't better than 2021 Bengals imo. Burrow, Chase, Higgins, Boyd, Mixon, Perine and Uzomah were tough to deal with and their defense rose up against good competition.

Eagles were decent offensively but Hurts tried his best to give the game away and their new defense was all over the place. Cowboys looked decent but just like the Bills it's what they do in the regular season. Plus Watson looks like all the injuries and missed time has messed him up.

UChieffyBugger 09-09-2024 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17670433)
Did you miss his rookie season?

Did his 23 touchdowns reinvent the wheel?

Okchief80 09-09-2024 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17670444)
Their offense worries me more than any Bengals team we've faced.

They will be a strong contender for the one seed, and they absolutely cannot have that. Houston would not be a fun place for us to play.

So would Buffalo and Baltimore.

CupidStunt 09-09-2024 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 17670430)
Josh Allen has a serious competitor for 2nd best QB in the NFL

I like Stroud fine but no. Stroud's WR3 would be Allen's WR1. (Wait. Wasn't he literally just that?)

I've strongly maintained the following for years now (especially during the height of Burrow's ridiculous hype, which even infected this board) and don't see it changing for at least another year or 2.

1. Mahomes
-gap-
2. Allen
-gap-
3. everyone else

Why Not? 09-09-2024 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 17670428)
They're playing better football than CIN at the moment

Other than the Giants, who isn’t?

TEX 09-09-2024 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 17670443)
Their weapons are legit. They have a 3 headed monster at WR that's honestly probably better than the Bengals group. The real problem is Mixon had 178 total yards today and looked great. They were horrible running the ball last year. If they can start punishing you like that for trying to guard their speed at WR they're going to be a pain to defend.

Yep. The much improved run game with my biggest take from yesterday's game. The Colts, somewhat thwarted their passing game. But it was no problem, because they just ran the ball, and did it very well.

VAChief 09-09-2024 07:08 AM

Clayster isn't wrong, Houston is a threat. He has weapons and confidence. He isn't Mahomes, but I would rather face Buffalo than Houston and I think Allen is better than Stroud.

Bl00dyBizkitz 09-09-2024 07:16 AM

I guess this is the official Texans thread. Cause every competitor needs its own thread.

Hoopsdoc 09-09-2024 07:23 AM

Texans are very good. Skill positions are as good as anyone in the NFL.

Their Achilles heel is the offensive line. They gave up 4 sacks and 10 qb hits yesterday to the Colts.

The Colts sold out to stop Stroud and Mixon killed them on the ground.

scho63 09-09-2024 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17670451)
I felt like the Lions, Eagles, and Ravens looked like best teams outside of us this week.The Bills looked alright in the 2nd half of their game. Dolphins offense was fast, per usual.

Obviously we’ll see what the 49ers and Jets look like tomorrow.

Still feeling great about our chances.

The Cowboys looked damn impressive, especially their defense.

Jewish Rabbi 09-09-2024 07:29 AM

Texans don’t even win that division bud

lawrenceRaider 09-09-2024 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17670424)
Stroud had a couple throws today that should have been interceptions. Last year he was very careful with the ball. Seems to be more aggressive this year.

Sounds a lot like young Mahomes. Y'all do remember that Mahomes had pretty low INT numbers, but a high percentage of interceptable balls.

Dunerdr 09-09-2024 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17670444)
Their offense worries me more than any Bengals team we've faced.

They will be a strong contender for the one seed, and they absolutely cannot have that. Houston would not be a fun place for us to play.

Why does that offense worry you more than any Bengals offense? The Bengals were pretty unreal with Higgins and Chase year 1 and 2. Mixon was good, perine was a weapon they kept the tight ends and Boyd very involved. They had two great receivers and a QB who was more than willing to let them go get it.

Stroud is good but holy shit were making a jump here.

BleedingRed 09-09-2024 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 17670551)
Texans don’t even win that division bud

Uh who does? Lol

threebag 09-09-2024 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 17670426)
Troll or stupid? I used to think troll but leaning toward you just being dumb.

Show me thirty of these plays and his stat line before crowning the next Mahomes.

Stupid Troll Parties

cdcox 09-09-2024 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17670433)
Did you miss his rookie season?

Here you go:

Hammock Parties 09-09-2024 08:02 AM

That's why he's Proto Mahomes, and not Mahomes.

Hammock Parties 09-09-2024 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17670559)
Why does that offense worry you more than any Bengals offense? The Bengals were pretty unreal with Higgins and Chase year 1 and 2. Mixon was good, perine was a weapon they kept the tight ends and Boyd very involved. They had two great receivers and a QB who was more than willing to let them go get it.

Stroud is good but holy shit were making a jump here.

Because they have a better tight end, more athletic and stronger-armed QB and way better left tackle.

Hayneplane 09-09-2024 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17670459)
Did his 23 touchdowns reinvent the wheel?

No but his touchdown to interception rate certainly does at any level but especially for a rookie QB.

staylor26 09-09-2024 08:11 AM

They didn't really look all that scary yesterday offensively, and it looks like their defense didn't make the jump that I expected.

RunKC 09-09-2024 08:23 AM

not sure why anyone thought it was anyone but the Texans? They’ve got the best QB since Mahomes, excellent weapons, decent OL and good rushers. This team beat Burrow and the Bengals in Cincinnati last year.

It’s gonna be a Houston/KC AFCCG IMO. But man their secondary is ripe for the taking. It’s not very good.

FloridaMan88 09-09-2024 08:24 AM

Indy hit on multiple big passing plays against their secondary.

Hoopsdoc 09-09-2024 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17670620)
Indy hit on multiple big passing plays against their secondary.

And missed on at least 2 because Josh Downs didn’t play and AD Mitchell isn’t ready yet.

mr. tegu 09-09-2024 08:40 AM

Their offense seems pretty good but that defense they played yesterday was downright awful and they still were very fortunate not to have multiple turnovers. Their defense seems like it will be average at best. Overall they could be the “ best” competition but I wouldn’t say I’m overly concerned about them.

BleedingRed 09-09-2024 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 17670594)
Here you go:

no his rookie season (Mahomes)..........

Lets not discredit what CJ did last year. He went to a dumpster fire, with a first time head coach. And he turned everything around right off the bat.

No nearly the same situtation Mahomes walked into.

BleedingRed 09-09-2024 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17670641)
Their offense seems pretty good but that defense they played yesterday was downright awful and they still were very fortunate not to have multiple turnovers. Their defense seems like it will be average at best. Overall they could be the “ best” competition but I wouldn’t say I’m overly concerned about them.

For those of us who watched the game, Texans played with their food too long. They should have been up like 24-10 at half.

Jewish Rabbi 09-09-2024 08:47 AM

Texans don’t even win that division bud

TEX 09-09-2024 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 17670649)
Texans don’t even win that division bud

Yes they will. They're a very good team in a bad division.

ToxSocks 09-09-2024 08:55 AM

This thread is ****ing embarrassing and of course Beta Clay is who made it.

Making a thread dedicated to a non-division rival who has yet to even make a dent in the NFL AFC Power Structure.

This thread is seriously an embarrassment to our forum.

Texans watch? Like the two time defending champs and the KINGS of the NFL need to be watching out for some AFC South scrub ass franchise that's just barely getting its dick wet?

**** outta here with this thread.

ToxSocks 09-09-2024 08:57 AM

At least with the Bengals and Bills we got history and beef. The ****ing Texans?

****ing embarrassing if any Texans fans see this thread. Ughhh....delete this shit. Seriously.

"Don't look now guys, but Chiefs fans are worried about us".

No Texans fans, we're not worried about you. Just Beta Clay is.

mr. tegu 09-09-2024 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 17670647)
For those of us who watched the game, Texans played with their food too long. They should have been up like 24-10 at half.


If you are going to magically give the Texans points in the first half then you have to give the Colts the missed wide open TD that preceded Richardson’s INT which would have given them the lead. The Texans were definitely not 14 points better in the first half. Teams were pretty even.

TEX 09-09-2024 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ToxSocks (Post 17670661)
At least with the Bengals and Bills we got history and beef. The ****ing Texans?

****ing embarrassing if any Texans fans see this thread. Ughhh....delete this shit. Seriously.

"Don't look now guys, but Chiefs fans are worried about us".

No Texans fans, we're not worried about you. Just Beta Clay is.

Not worried. It's okay to give other good teams respect. Acknowledge that they're good, and then go out and kick their ass!

BigRedChief 09-09-2024 09:04 AM

I wouldn't write off the Bengals quite yet but yeah, they look like the real deal.

ToxSocks 09-09-2024 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 17670666)
Not worried. It's okay to give other good teams respect. Acknowledge that they're good, and then go out and kick their ass!

They haven't won shit yet.

What separates them from the Dolphins?

Until they become a perennial threat and actually beat the top dogs of the conference, they're nothing more than the Dolphins.

Good squad, but they're still just juniors, not seniors.

TEX 09-09-2024 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ToxSocks (Post 17670678)
They haven't won shit yet.

What separates them from the Dolphins?

Until they become a perennial threat and actually beat the top dogs of the conference, they're nothing more than the Dolphins.

Good squad, but they're still just juniors, not seniors.

I get your point. But I think they should be held in higher regard than the Dolphins. Simply because the Dolphins have proven who they are over time. A good team that will make the playoffs and not get it done. The Texans, rose up from the ashes, made the playoffs won a playoff game and made improvements in the offseason.They're well coached and are more than one dimensional.True, that they haven't really won anything yet, but they are taking the necessary steps to do so. I just respect them, that's all I'm saying. That's different than fearing them. Understand and acknowledge what is coming, so u can b e better prepared. That's all.

Hammock Parties 09-09-2024 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ToxSocks (Post 17670678)
What separates them from the Dolphins?

They won their division, because their QB isn't a choker, and because he has elite arm talent.

They also dropped 45 in a playoff win a week later.

A team on the rise.

pugsnotdrugs19 09-09-2024 09:42 AM

The more attention-grabbing thing about Houston yesterday is it looks like they may be ready to maximize Joe Mixon.

If they can have a legitimate ground attack consistently, yeah, I'd start buying them as our top competition this year.

Lzen 09-09-2024 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17670550)
The Cowboys looked damn impressive, especially their defense.

Was it the Cowboys defense looking really impressive or was it Watson just looking terrible? Probably a combination.

scho63 09-09-2024 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17670772)
Was it the Cowboys defense looking really impressive or was it Watson just looking terrible? Probably a combination.

Watson is no benchmarking tool but they looked fast as hell.

The Browns are a clown franchise.

LoneWolf 09-09-2024 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17670550)
The Cowboys looked damn impressive, especially their defense.

They were playing the empty husk that used to be Deshaun Watson. Cool your jets.

BWillie 09-09-2024 10:15 AM

Dude is crazy. I keep waiting for him to fall off but never happens. He can slang it.

scho63 09-09-2024 10:18 AM

They are quickly moving in the right direction of being a very good football team.

Need to see a little more consistent success.

They won yesterday but not sure it was so convincing.

UChieffyBugger 09-09-2024 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17670618)
not sure why anyone thought it was anyone but the Texans? They’ve got the best QB since Mahomes, excellent weapons, decent OL and good rushers. This team beat Burrow and the Bengals in Cincinnati last year.

It’s gonna be a Houston/KC AFCCG IMO. But man their secondary is ripe for the taking. It’s not very good.

You say they beat Burrow but yet they got crushed by the Ravens twice. Lost to the Jets and Carolina too.

MahomesMagic 09-09-2024 10:31 AM

Counter point Houston secondary....


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AD Mitchell was *3* better balls away from having a pretty awesome NFL debut <a href="https://t.co/vrZy5cVkUy">pic.twitter.com/vrZy5cVkUy</a></p>&mdash; Ian Hartitz (@Ihartitz) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ihartitz/status/1833150394958049598?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 9, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


If Hollywood or Worthy get that open Mahomes ain't missing them.

mr. tegu 09-09-2024 10:38 AM

It still boggles the mind that the Panthers took Young over Stroud. Even if you had never seen either of them play, after standing next to both of them the answer should have been obvious. Young not only looks tiny, he plays tiny.

Bowser 09-09-2024 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17670748)
The more attention-grabbing thing about Houston yesterday is it looks like they may be ready to maximize Joe Mixon.

If they can have a legitimate ground attack consistently, yeah, I'd start buying them as our top competition this year.

This

Rainbarrel 09-09-2024 10:57 AM

A whole lot of promise that doesn't finish is kinda what the Texans have accomplished before. I thought they did this before Watson too

BlackHelicopters 09-09-2024 12:31 PM

Texans are rapidly becoming our worst enemy.

Mecca 09-09-2024 12:34 PM

Guys were running wide open through their secondary all day, Richardson is just 50/50 on if he hits the throws.

pugsnotdrugs19 09-09-2024 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17671117)
Guys were running wide open through their secondary all day, Richardson is just 50/50 on if he hits the throws.

This is true. He missed a couple TDs.

TEX 09-09-2024 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17670830)
You say they beat Burrow but yet they got crushed by the Ravens twice. Lost to the Jets and Carolina too.

Sure. The mark of a young inexperienced team that really didn't know who they were yet. They learned, and went out and got players this year.

cmh6476 09-09-2024 05:56 PM

I may end up going but I'm holding into my Texans tickets as that game could have huge implications late in the season.

cmh6476 09-09-2024 05:56 PM

And maybe they can get us 35 on us this time

chiefzilla1501 09-09-2024 07:03 PM

I'm still curious about how stroud and Jordan love hold up after their breakout seasons. I still think a lot of their game revolves around chuck it balls. A lot of backfooted throws and not the mahomes off platform kind. I feel like these types of qbs were rewarded because defenses spent all off-season trying to keep everything in front of them to counter the chiefs attack.

But then again it's week 1 where offenses across the league were mostly pretty bad. So who knows

JimNasium 09-09-2024 08:21 PM

There is something about the Texans that strikes fear in the heart of Claythan. I recall that leading up to the Divisional round game in January of 2020 he was terrified that Will ****ing Fuller was going to kill us. I think I recall he has family connections in Houston, so maybe that’s it, but he tends to inflate their ability. Don’t get me wrong, they are good, but still a long way from being the threat he’s pimping in this thread.

bringbackmarty 09-09-2024 10:56 PM

He's great, they are a good team. They are building up something good there. I'm happy to face them up here when it counts for real.

bringbackmarty 09-09-2024 10:57 PM

If we have to go there, then I feel really sorry for them.

saphojunkie 09-09-2024 11:01 PM

The highest prince isn't on the same level as the king

Chieftain 09-09-2024 11:21 PM

Never count on a dome team come playoff time.

jjchieffan 09-10-2024 10:47 AM

I'm not ready to jump on the Texans bandwagon just yet. How many times have we seen a team look really good for a season, then fall back to the mean? Everyone thought that Daboll had fixed Daniel Jones his first year coaching him. The Giants are back to being a disaster. Deshaun Watson looked great for a few years early in his career. Now he's a dumpster fire. I remember the Browns were looking pretty good at one point with Baker Mayfield. Maybe they continue to look great. But it's not a certainty. Other than the Chiefs, nobody has been consistently good. I'll just watch and see.

Hammock Parties 09-15-2024 09:59 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">They say CJ Stroud is &quot;The One.&quot; <a href="https://t.co/MkNPxFVcgZ">https://t.co/MkNPxFVcgZ</a> <a href="https://t.co/onxniuG1qu">pic.twitter.com/onxniuG1qu</a></p>&mdash; ��️ Red Tribe Cinema (@ClayWendler) <a href="https://twitter.com/ClayWendler/status/1835527979562131673?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 16, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

TEX 09-15-2024 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chieftain (Post 17672433)
Never count on a dome team come playoff time.

IF they get home field, they will be very tough.

Pasta Little Brioni 09-16-2024 04:16 AM

Struggled against a bad Bears team that had a final drive attempt to win the game

Rainbarrel 09-16-2024 04:34 AM

The meal ain't meeting the hype for me either

DRM08 09-16-2024 04:43 AM

They don’t look like a juggernaut at the moment, squeaking out close wins against bad teams. But they have a very weak division. The other AFC South teams have already piled up 0 wins and 6 losses in 2 weeks.

Chris Meck 09-16-2024 06:27 AM

It's 2 weeks in. We don't look like world beaters either.

Rainbarrel 09-16-2024 06:30 AM

The Saints keeping that pace ain't happening


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