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Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan 09-14-2024 03:06 PM

NFL handing down fines to Chiefs players for Ravens game
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The NFL fined the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> organization $100,000 and TE Peyton Hendershot $5,472 for a sideline shove that drew the ire of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Ravens?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Ravens</a> LB Roquan Smith in last week’s kickoff game, per sources.<br><br>Hendershot plans to appeal. <a href="https://t.co/jFsJjHIAbY">https://t.co/jFsJjHIAbY</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1835046096021733477?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 14, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Oh, and no fine for Roquan Smith for hitting Mahomes out of bounds.

Yeah, the NFL favors the Chiefs. :cuss:

Ming the Merciless 09-14-2024 03:10 PM

Roquan Smith is a chump

hope the ravens collapse this year

RealSNR 09-14-2024 03:14 PM

Roquan Smith belongs in JAIL

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan 09-14-2024 03:19 PM

And now Pacheco fined:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The NFL fined <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> RB Isiah Pacheco $5,582 for unnecessary roughness on this play in last week’s kickoff game. <br><br>The league continues to crack down on lowering the head to initiate contact. No flag was thrown. <a href="https://t.co/JRAzHTBJxC">pic.twitter.com/JRAzHTBJxC</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1835049773834834131?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 14, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

staylor26 09-14-2024 03:23 PM

Mother**** the league office

Frazod 09-14-2024 03:25 PM

We keep exposing their golden child as the running back masquerading as a quarterback that he is.

They really hate that.

PHOG 09-14-2024 03:27 PM

That's ok, when we stomp everyone on the way to a 3-peat, the league can collectively wipe their dirty ass with that money. And then proceed to stick it where the sun don't shine! Losers!

BlackHelicopters 09-14-2024 03:27 PM

Uncalled for.

Rainbarrel 09-14-2024 03:29 PM

Their pulled pork's hogs. Are fattened on euthanized shelter puppies

poolboy 09-14-2024 03:30 PM

such ticky tack BS...

Easy 6 09-14-2024 03:57 PM

Whoa hell, 100k and 5.5k for Hendershot... for WHAT AGAIN?

Absolutely excessive and out of left field

Easy 6 09-14-2024 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan (Post 17681365)
And now Pacheco fined:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The NFL fined <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> RB Isiah Pacheco $5,582 for unnecessary roughness on this play in last week’s kickoff game. <br><br>The league continues to crack down on lowering the head to initiate contact. No flag was thrown. <a href="https://t.co/JRAzHTBJxC">pic.twitter.com/JRAzHTBJxC</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1835049773834834131?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 14, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bloody hell Clark needs to pay that fine, encourage Pacheco to keep it up, and pay any further fines :facepalm:

Coochie liquor 09-14-2024 04:03 PM

Oweh fined too

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ravens OLB Odafe Oweh was fined $20,050 for this hit on Chiefs RB Isiah Pacheco. <a href="https://t.co/vevWb8vZaW">pic.twitter.com/vevWb8vZaW</a></p>&mdash; Jonas Shaffer (@jonas_shaffer) <a href="https://twitter.com/jonas_shaffer/status/1835050203319038321?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 14, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Rain Man 09-14-2024 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan (Post 17681365)
And now Pacheco fined:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The NFL fined <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> RB Isiah Pacheco $5,582 for unnecessary roughness on this play in last week’s kickoff game. <br><br>The league continues to crack down on lowering the head to initiate contact. No flag was thrown. <a href="https://t.co/JRAzHTBJxC">pic.twitter.com/JRAzHTBJxC</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1835049773834834131?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 14, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

How was that different than every other running play in the NFL?

poolboy 09-14-2024 04:06 PM

The "Tua" effect

notorious 09-14-2024 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 17681415)
Oweh fined too

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ravens OLB Odafe Oweh was fined $20,050 for this hit on Chiefs RB Isiah Pacheco. <a href="https://t.co/vevWb8vZaW">pic.twitter.com/vevWb8vZaW</a></p>&mdash; Jonas Shaffer (@jonas_shaffer) <a href="https://twitter.com/jonas_shaffer/status/1835050203319038321?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 14, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Both those fines are horseshit.

JohnnyHammersticks 09-14-2024 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan (Post 17681365)
And now Pacheco fined:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The NFL fined <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> RB Isiah Pacheco $5,582 for unnecessary roughness on this play in last week’s kickoff game. <br><br>The league continues to crack down on lowering the head to initiate contact. No flag was thrown. <a href="https://t.co/JRAzHTBJxC">pic.twitter.com/JRAzHTBJxC</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1835049773834834131?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 14, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

https://i.giphy.com/s239QJIh56sRW.webp

Rain Man 09-14-2024 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 17681415)
Oweh fined too

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ravens OLB Odafe Oweh was fined $20,050 for this hit on Chiefs RB Isiah Pacheco. <a href="https://t.co/vevWb8vZaW">pic.twitter.com/vevWb8vZaW</a></p>&mdash; Jonas Shaffer (@jonas_shaffer) <a href="https://twitter.com/jonas_shaffer/status/1835050203319038321?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 14, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

And in the interest of being fair, how was that one different than every other running play in the NFL? Was there a late action after the video ends?

Bump 09-14-2024 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan (Post 17681365)
And now Pacheco fined:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The NFL fined <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> RB Isiah Pacheco $5,582 for unnecessary roughness on this play in last week’s kickoff game. <br><br>The league continues to crack down on lowering the head to initiate contact. No flag was thrown. <a href="https://t.co/JRAzHTBJxC">pic.twitter.com/JRAzHTBJxC</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1835049773834834131?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 14, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

gayest fine of all time and it's probably not even close

Rain Man 09-14-2024 04:10 PM

Also, Hendershot shouldn't be fined and Slow-quan Smith should be.

Were fines handed out by having a monkey point at a board or something?

KCUnited 09-14-2024 04:10 PM

Nothing for Kyle Van Soy going low on Mahomes

Jewish Rabbi 09-14-2024 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 17681427)
gayest fine of all time and it's probably not even close

Not as gay as you faking your birthday bitch!!!

Bump 09-14-2024 04:14 PM

And Roquan Smith probably shouldn't have been a little bitch and pushing Mahomes down when he's already 5 feet out of bounds if he didn't want to get checked by Peyton Hendershot!

ChiliConCarnage 09-14-2024 04:14 PM

The Pacheco run on Oweh plays just look like normal plays

Bump 09-14-2024 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 17681435)
Not as gay as you faking your birthday bitch!!!

I should have just went with it! ROFL

JerseyChief 09-14-2024 04:18 PM

Hendershot was in street clothes. Probably something to do with the chiefs not having control of the guests on their sideline or some other stupid shit. Had a dressed player done that I'm thinking it's a non issue.

Rain Man 09-14-2024 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 17681431)
Nothing for Kyle Van Soy going low on Mahomes

Maybe the league thought we were even after our late-arriving fake eye doctors apparently gouged his eyes out with screwdrivers.

Van Noy is such a baby.

T-post Tom 09-14-2024 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan (Post 17681365)
And now Pacheco fined:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The NFL fined <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> RB Isiah Pacheco $5,582 for unnecessary roughness on this play in last week’s kickoff game. <br><br>The league continues to crack down on lowering the head to initiate contact. No flag was thrown. <a href="https://t.co/JRAzHTBJxC">pic.twitter.com/JRAzHTBJxC</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1835049773834834131?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 14, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


WTF? The league should broadcast the name of every decision-maker responsible for issuing these fines. Unbelievable.

Easy 6 09-14-2024 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 17681431)
Nothing for Kyle Van Soy going low on Mahomes

He's been crying to the media about our medical staff about his eye exam, and the 'waaaay too long' time he waited for treatment... yeah thats right, maybe don't cheapshot our QB next time

ChiefGator 09-14-2024 04:41 PM

Yeah, both those fines are bullshit. The NFLPA needs to get involved here

ChiefGator 09-14-2024 04:42 PM

Took 12 minutes for him to get specialist medical care... not terrible.

Not like he was about to die of an eye injury either.

Raiderhater 09-14-2024 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 17681449)
Maybe the league thought we were even after our late-arriving fake eye doctors apparently gouged his eyes out with screwdrivers.

Van Noy is such a baby.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 17681484)
He's been crying to the media about our medical staff about his eye exam, and the 'waaaay too long' time he waited for treatment... yeah thats right, maybe don't cheapshot our QB next time

I’m waiting for the BS fine to be leveled for that nothingburger.

Bob Dole 09-14-2024 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poolboy (Post 17681422)
The "Tua" effect

It's going to be funny when they fine self-concussed Tua for lowering his head...

Bump 09-14-2024 05:10 PM

I think the NFL should fine the Arizona Cardinals $1 million every time someone has to play on their terrible field!

poolboy 09-14-2024 05:23 PM

man they are just gonna water these games down to nothing...
Whats next, no leg tackles?

KCBlitz 09-14-2024 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17681371)
We keep exposing their golden child as the running back masquerading as a quarterback that he is.

They really hate that.

I didn’t know Allen played in that game. 🤔

rydogg58 09-14-2024 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17681423)
Both those fines are horseshit.

What the hell did he do wrong on that play? Seriously watched that like 5 times and cannot see what needed a 20k fine. Just ridiculous.

Chief Roundup 09-14-2024 05:48 PM

All of these fines seem stupid. 100K to the Chiefs is really ridiculous.

JerseyChief 09-14-2024 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rydogg58 (Post 17681529)
What the hell did he do wrong on that play? Seriously watched that like 5 times and cannot see what needed a 20k fine. Just ridiculous.

Helmet to the ribs?? :shrug:

I guess the NFL is retroactively punishing players for the Tua injury...hell they should levy a fine on Tua also.

Mecca 09-14-2024 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 17681534)
All of these fines seem stupid. 100K to the Chiefs is really ridiculous.

That fine is that high because of the pud on the sidelines in Eagles 49ers last year that got Greenlaw ejected.

It's basically having a person who's not a player or in uniform instigating, the league took flack for it so it's an attempt to crack down.

Probably telling the organization to control people on the sidelines etc. Its dumb but that's likely why.

xztop123 09-14-2024 06:39 PM

I would not want to tackle Pacheco. Crazy how this guy fell in the draft. It seems like an obvious explosive fearless runner.

I kind of want to google his draft report negatives. Proly pass blocking / catching

Mecca 09-14-2024 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 17681567)
I would not want to tackle Pacheco. Crazy how this guy fell in the draft. It seems like an obvious explosive fearless runner.

I kind of want to google his draft report negatives. Proly pass blocking / catching

He was on a really terrible team. It's hard to judge a RB on a team like that, I believe the questions were things like vision and feel for the position.

Chief Pagan 09-14-2024 06:51 PM

I'm not that opposed to the fine for shoving Roquan, somebody on the sideline shouldn't do that.

But Roquan should have also been flagged, fined for late hit out of bounds.

Chief Pagan 09-14-2024 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerseyChief (Post 17681544)
Helmet to the ribs?? :shrug:

I guess the NFL is retroactively punishing players for the Tua injury...hell they should levy a fine on Tua also.

Yes, Tua should have turned and put his shoulder not his helmet. But LOl at this point.

xztop123 09-14-2024 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17681571)
He was on a really terrible team. It's hard to judge a RB on a team like that, I believe the questions were things like vision and feel for the position.

It seems like the inverse was true for CEH

JimNasium 09-14-2024 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 17681415)
Oweh fined too

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ravens OLB Odafe Oweh was fined $20,050 for this hit on Chiefs RB Isiah Pacheco. <a href="https://t.co/vevWb8vZaW">pic.twitter.com/vevWb8vZaW</a></p>&mdash; Jonas Shaffer (@jonas_shaffer) <a href="https://twitter.com/jonas_shaffer/status/1835050203319038321?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 14, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Guilty

scho63 09-14-2024 07:14 PM

NFL building up their coffers for bigger Goodell raises.

displacedinMN 09-15-2024 06:35 AM

did they do this for all other games last week???

2bikemike 09-15-2024 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 17681579)
I'm not that opposed to the fine for shoving Roquan, somebody on the sideline shouldn't do that.

But Roquan should have also been flagged, fined for late hit out of bounds.

Yep, not fining Roquan was doubling down on an obvious missed flag!

Garcia Bronco 09-15-2024 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2bikemike (Post 17681947)
Yep, not fining Roquan was doubling down on an obvious missed flag!

That looked to me like Patrick fell down and that's why the rest probably didn't throw a flag on that.

Rainbarrel 09-15-2024 07:16 AM

They got Smith for the horse collar, 16,883

Hoover 09-15-2024 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poolboy (Post 17681422)
The "Tua" effect

Are they going to fine Tua for his hit?

Chiefaholic 09-15-2024 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan (Post 17681365)
And now Pacheco fined:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The NFL fined <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> RB Isiah Pacheco $5,582 for unnecessary roughness on this play in last week’s kickoff game. <br><br>The league continues to crack down on lowering the head to initiate contact. No flag was thrown. <a href="https://t.co/JRAzHTBJxC">pic.twitter.com/JRAzHTBJxC</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1835049773834834131?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 14, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Just accidentally drop a wad of cash as you walk past his locker and keep on walking.

Chiefaholic 09-15-2024 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 17681567)
I would not want to tackle Pacheco. Crazy how this guy fell in the draft. It seems like an obvious explosive fearless runner.

I kind of want to google his draft report negatives. Proly pass blocking / catching

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/isiah-...1-d5a8938af2e4


By Lance Zierlein
NFL Analyst
Draft Projection
Round 6-Priority free agent

NFL Comparison
Mike Gillislee

Overview
Hard-charging, high-energy runner with three-down size and potential to compete for a roster spot as a late-round selection. Pacheco plays the game like a race car with no brakes. His feet never stop moving and his furious tempo creates opportunities but also limits his ability to set up defenders and force missed tackles. He processes the front fairly quickly and has the agility to re-adjust his running lanes to create something out of nothing, but he also has a tendency to bounce runs wide too frequently. Pacheco plays the game with an NFL demeanor and could give himself an even better chance of becoming an RB2/3 if he can step up his pass protection and third down value.

Strengths
Enduring and dependable for all four years.
Adequate build for contact his running style invites.
Urgency is his operating mode.
Rapid-fire feet never stop chopping and working.
Drops pad level with aggressive charge through the mess.
Makes cuts with good suddenness and energy.
Possesses burst necessary for successful outside runs.
Size and strength to square up linebacker in protection.

Weaknesses
Running style lacks rhythm and cohesion.
Hurried nature creates impatience in allowing for block development.
Struggles to hit points of entry with proper timing.
Too quick to bounce a run wide in early stages.
Hasty pace diminishes ability to force missed tackles.
Below-average hand-eye coordination catching down the field.
Creativity after the catch is lacking.
Pass protection looks busy but lacks involvement.

Bowser 09-15-2024 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 17681408)
Whoa hell, 100k and 5.5k for Hendershot... for WHAT AGAIN?

Absolutely excessive and out of left field

Clark should go full Marty Schottenheimer in the 90's and tell his players he'll pay for all the fines, and to not change a single thing they're doing on the field.

Roquan being all butthurt in his presser is what got Hendershot fined. What a little bitch. Hopefully Hendershot appeals.

Quote:

Originally Posted by poolboy (Post 17681422)
The "Tua" effect

Yep, there it is.

They're not going to change kickoff rules in an attempt to <strike>stop getting sued in the future by former special teams players for lack of safety and multiple concussions suffered on the field</strike> shield players from unnecessary injury, only to lose a star QB (maybe for good) to ANOTHER concussion and not take action to encourage football players to not hit like they've been coached to their entire lives.

kc rush 09-15-2024 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poolboy (Post 17681518)
man they are just gonna water these games down to nothing...
Whats next, no leg tackles?

They have been promoting flag football hard the last couple of years.

Wouldn't surprise me if that is the direction they want to push things in the next decade or so.

jjchieffan 09-22-2024 07:52 AM

Another fine came down for the Bungholes game. Nick Bolton got fined for a hip drop tackle. I originally thought that it was the tackle on Chase, but that wasn't Bolton. I got more information today. It was on the right end All at the end of the first quarter. Here's a snipit from the article.

As for Bolton specifically, he was in a tough spot as he chased All from behind and made a diving tackle. Bolton's form on the tackle was good and he was dragged a bit before All went down. Bolton's only other option was to not attempt the tackle at all, which would have resulted in a much larger gain and possibly even a touchdown.

Like the officials, defenders are in an almost impossible position with this. There are obvious hip-drop tackles, but many are just too subjective. Unfortunately, the NFL has this issue with more than one of its rules, such as pass interference and what exactly defines a catch. The definition of what a hip-drop tackle is will likely remain frustrating for the foreseeable future.


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