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Tribal Warfare 09-20-2024 01:13 PM

Jeff Allen Analyzes Kingsley Suamataia
 
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Direckshun 09-20-2024 01:20 PM

Can we have the minutes he discusses it, please?

Tribal Warfare 09-20-2024 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17694347)
Can we have the minutes he discusses it, please?

Try it now

tyton75 09-20-2024 01:52 PM

Pretty decent take that I agree with.

ThrobProng 09-20-2024 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 17694336)
Jeff Allen Analyzes Kingsley Suamataia

I thought this was going to be the worst porn ever, but I clicked on it anyway.

saphojunkie 09-20-2024 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ThrobProng (Post 17694391)
I thought this was going to be the worst porn ever, but I clicked on it anyway.

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Lzen 09-20-2024 02:44 PM

That was pretty good.

wazu 09-20-2024 03:12 PM

This was encouraging. For those who didn't watch, Jeff Allen thinks it's very fixable with minor adjustment of where Kingsley sets up. It occurs to me that Kingsley is also having to learn this position in the new age of refs throwing flags if you line up even a shade too far back. That has to make it tougher.

ChiefaRoo 09-20-2024 05:20 PM

I think Kingsley is going to have a solid rookie year. Kid has talent. He was being abused at times by a pretty good edge player but will learn from it.

tredadda 09-20-2024 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo (Post 17694627)
I think Kingsley is going to have a solid rookie year. Kid has talent. He was being abused at times by a pretty good edge player but will learn from it.

If you look at the pass rushers he will face this year he is going to get a ton of experience through trial by fire.

FloridaMan88 09-20-2024 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17694633)
If you look at the pass rushers he will face this year he is going to get a ton of experience through trial by fire.

His trial by fire though is exposing Mahomes’ blind side to sacks/pressures/hits.

htismaqe 09-20-2024 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17694639)
His trial by fire though is exposing Mahomes’ blind side to sacks/pressures/hits.

Mahomes' blind side has been exposed for the better part of 4 years now. It's time to develop some talent at tackle so they don't have to settle for the Orlando Brown's of the world.

siberian khatru 09-20-2024 06:41 PM

Look who the cat dragged in. Welcome back, htismaqe!

dlphg9 09-20-2024 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17694690)
Mahomes' blind side has been exposed for the better part of 4 years now. It's time to develop some talent at tackle so they don't have to settle for the Orlando Brown's of the world.

Holy shit! He lives!

Bl00dyBizkitz 09-20-2024 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17694639)
His trial by fire though is exposing Mahomes’ blind side to sacks/pressures/hits.

Okay question. Learning inherently involves making mistakes right? Can we not accept that Mahomes is going to take some pressure while Kingsley gets better?

This has been bugging me ever since the Bengals game ended. He has to play and make mistakes to learn.

tredadda 09-20-2024 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17694690)
Mahomes' blind side has been exposed for the better part of 4 years now. It's time to develop some talent at tackle so they don't have to settle for the Orlando Brown's of the world.

Orlando Brown and the shell of Donovan Smith.

srvy 09-20-2024 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17694690)
Mahomes' blind side has been exposed for the better part of 4 years now. It's time to develop some talent at tackle so they don't have to settle for the Orlando Brown's of the world.

So much this and its great to see you back here posting where you belong.

TEX 09-21-2024 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo (Post 17694627)
I think Kingsley is going to have a solid rookie year. Kid has talent. He was being abused at times by a pretty good edge player but will learn from it.

Msybe so. But IMO, this team should be much further along than having to wait on a rookie LT to develop under fire.

dlphg9 09-21-2024 04:36 AM

This is the same thing Mitchell Schwartz said about him, too.

dlphg9 09-21-2024 04:38 AM

I'd honestly like to Wanya Morris get a shot.

ShortRoundChief 09-21-2024 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 17695069)
Msybe so. But IMO, this team should be much further along than having to wait on a rookie LT to develop under fire.

Were we that far along when we drafted and started a rookie center and right guard? IMO it’s the nature of the beast. The more successful a team is, the harder it becomes to field solid veterans if you want to be successful. Our ability to select and utilize young players, along with their young mistakes, is what’s kept us competitive as long as we have.

TEX 09-22-2024 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 17695080)
Were we that far along when we drafted and started a rookie center and right guard? IMO it’s the nature of the beast. The more successful a team is, the harder it becomes to field solid veterans if you want to be successful. Our ability to select and utilize young players, along with their young mistakes, is what’s kept us competitive as long as we have.

Very tue, but when said young player is in over his head, you need to take note of it before it destroys his confidence, and in this case, gets #15 hurt.

BlackHelicopters 09-22-2024 04:56 AM

Very good analysis.

Rausch 09-22-2024 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17695076)
I'd honestly like to Wanya Morris get a shot.

He did. Not an ideal shot but 6 games last year. Kingsly has much more physical talent and much more upside.

He is what we thought he was - high upside and raw. That's fine, we got one helluva' O line coach to bring him along. He'll be really good. And he's actually got the upside to run and pass block well instead of being a one dimensional injury magnet like our last LT.

TEX 09-22-2024 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 17695080)
Were we that far along when we drafted and started a rookie center and right guard? IMO it’s the nature of the beast. The more successful a team is, the harder it becomes to field solid veterans if you want to be successful. Our ability to select and utilize young players, along with their young mistakes, is what’s kept us competitive as long as we have.

Morris is starting tonight. But this is not an,"I told you so," on my part, this is more like your take is correct, in that Morris is another young developing LT, with a bit more experience, that they're throwing out there. I think we'll see Suamataia out there again at some point, as he has more upside.

dlphg9 09-23-2024 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 17696675)
He did. Not an ideal shot but 6 games last year. Kingsly has much more physical talent and much more upside.

He is what we thought he was - high upside and raw. That's fine, we got one helluva' O line coach to bring him along. He'll be really good. And he's actually got the upside to run and pass block well instead of being a one dimensional injury magnet like our last LT.

He played really good in like 4 or 5 of those 6 games last year. He also played damn good at LT tonight. I'm not sure I get the hate for the guy.


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