What to do about Wanya Morris?
 

The guy is absolutely brutal

Veach needs to get Donovan Smith or Bakhtiari in here ASAP. Wanya is not sustainable for the rest of the season.

What has the fat Samoan guy been up to

Wasn’t his worst game last year on Christmas against LV?

Maybe chuck in Skyy Moore at LT after he gets back from his "injury". Skyy is allegedly an elite blocker!!

I’d try Mecca’s fat ass at LT

We send him to your house so that you can straighten him out. You clearly know more about football that the entire Chiefs coaching staff.

Those were soft calls on him. Relax. Getting broke old guys nobody else will sign is not the answer either

Trade for Maxx Crosby

Install Kingsley and let him grow, thats what

Rip off the band aid and get it over with

Uh, don't play him against the Raiders.

Yeah, the guy is an all-pro...

OP is reeruned.

Learning from watching Wanya.

Yes, Wanya got whipped pretty bad in the Christmas game. I would say it was better today.

Play Kingsley.

Had some bad plays but he won't be facing Crosby every week.. He's really not the LT of the future.. That guy may not be on the team yet.. We can still win with what we have..

Morris isn't the answer for sure. But outside of trading for one we don't have a lot of options.

Morris isn't a tackle. I mean, I think his true position is guard.

I hope we aren't satisfied just having a guy that can block B level players, but gets owned by A level players.

Leave his fat ass at a Vegas buffet

So we're giving up on Kingsly after 3 weeks?

There is nothing to do, him and sumatuamimaima is who we have this year

Morris struggled against the Raiders last year as well.

Yeah. I would have liked to have seen Kingsley play some today. Crosby is a terrible matchup for Morris. Kingsley may not have fired any better, but we don't know that.

LT is the 2nd hardest position to fill, especially if you’re a team like the Chiefs that never picks early.

We're going to win 6 Super Bowls with like five different LTs. They'll find a way.

dude is beyond terrible. Think about it - they see him in practice weekly....he sucks knob

What to do about morris….

I’m going to watch him fight his way through the growing pains and get a superbowl ring in Feb 2025.

If he doesn't get Mahomes killed first...

But I suppose we are stuck with him for the rest of the season. *sigh*

We're not trading for an LT mid-season unless we give up significant draft capital. Plus, it just doesn't happen? Whens the last time a big trade for an LT happened mid-season?

Wanya and Kingsley are our guys.

Make a call to Donovan.

we gonna ride him out

Yup.

Tackle is probably the biggest issue on the team now, but there's not really much that can be done midseason. Unless they think the rookie has improved enough to play, it's Wanya.

Leno
Bahktiari
Smith

FIFY

Put big ole Mickey Mouse gloves on him so he can't hold. :spock:

OP is bitching about holding penalties and advocates for bringing in Donovan Smith. Lol

Crosby is one of the best pass rushers in the league! At least top 3.

Morris did struggle with him today but it was an improvement over last year.

Not to many young Tackles that could handle Crosby.

Maybe Kingsley gets another shot now?

I hardly noticed Donovan Smith getting flagged last year. That was probably because I was constantly pulling my hair out from all the Jawaan Taylor penalties. I'm bald now.

Those penalties helped the Faid cover so take that how you will but that 7 penalty 3rd was a damn joke

The official who was making all those holding calls is definitely not going to be on one of the playoffs crews. Two of the three holding calls against Morris were completely fabricated, and in fairness there was a call against a Raider where Chris Jones just slipped on the logo and they called holding.

7-0 keep playing him and hope for improvement. there is nothing out there worth a damn.

We have a real problem at LT. There’s no disputing or disguising it. Probably no ready made answers from here so it’s going to be a season of papering over a major weakness that’s glaring.

It’s a real problem.

The issue is, you usually have to get the type of LT we all want early in the draft or pay a lot for em

They need to develop Kingsley

Kingsley needs another trial by fire, with all of the help Morris has been getting

This might be the worst idea of all time - I'm not knowledgeable enough about OL play to know.

What about Tuney at LT and Morris at LG?

Those holding calls were some of the worst ****ing calls I've ever seen.

Can we leave every one of your posts there as well?

The Raiders owned him last year also. He plays much worse against them than anyone.

Morris got slightly easier assignments than Kingsley against the Saints and Falcons.

I'm okay with Reid continuing to roll with Morris over Kingsley since he's been in there so many weeks in a row. But I think more and more it's looking like Morris is not going to be the longterm answer past this season, which is probably why Reid gave all those starting snaps to Kingsley.

Dunno. It's a tough call. Maybe you start Morris until the division gets locked up then you throw Kingsley out there? Go with the best man after that in the playoffs?

I really don't want to see us going into the offseason next year in the exact same position as last year, where we had a lukewarm young guy, rando options off the street, and a raw player.

What would we do in that position? Draft another guy in the 1st 3 rounds and chalk up his poor play in his rookie year to inexperience? You mean like we've been doing?

This is a fact. Blue chip LTs are gone way before KC drafts.

According to the internet Ref Nation has nothing to be concerned about

Morris struggles against the Raiders. Try Kingsley against the Raiders next time and see how he performs against them.

This is the situation. LT is a position where the blue chip guys get drafted really early. We're never going to be drafting that high for the rest of history.

Dunno about that. Maybe we tank one year after our shitty LT gets Mahomes killed and we can then draft his replacement at LT.

we haven't had a top 20 pick in like 10 years besides the greatest trade up of all time when we traded to #10 that one year.

Kingsley just needs some time. He'll get there

Despite playing a very badly, he did better than last year so at least there’s some improvement. I think today shows we need to try something different. I guess he’s playing instead of Kingsley because Kingsley is even worse in terms of what the coaching staff sees, and it’s hard to argue that given what we all saw in the games were Kingsley started. If we could bring in Smith or Bacteari within what our cap allows, I think it would be worth trying that out. They might not be any better, but we won’t know until we try. If we could trade for someone who is good and we could keep [I mean, not just a one year rental) we should be even prepared to give up our number one Pick next year. but as someone else said, there doesn’t ever seem to be left tackles available in mid season trades. And I don’t see that mentioned as an option in any of the stuff I read on the web.

But after today, I don’t think we should just stand Pat and wait and see what happens without doing the best we can in terms of bringing someone else in.

The good news is our WR really doesn’t need another trade and it was encouraging to see the increased confidence. Mahomes seems to be in worthy. And our DBsseem to be OK although I certainly wouldn’t object to bringing in Latimore, if he could be had at a reasonable price.

Lenos recovering from hip surgery.

Also that second hold at the goal line was shit. Dude just ****ing fell down in between Morris and Thuney. Refs had to keep Vegas in it.

We won't be facing Maxx Crosby every week. I dunno, I think he did OK. Yes, the holding penalties were shit. But ultimately it didn't cost the game, and he'll get better because of it.

No need to break the bank on a LT right now. We're getting better every week, and we have a pretty soft schedule coming up. WBF.

Chiefs might need to consider trading up and taking a top LT prospect in next year’s draft.

After spending a 2nd on Kingsley? Would be pretty damning to make that move, you're basically just giving up on him after 2 games of starting.

I feel like maybe people are giving up on Kingsley and Wanya a bit too quick.

I believe Kingsley will take over at some point. He played well enough to win the starter spot in training camp. So he can play.

Definitely not giving up on the guy- I’m just not sure he’s the LTOTF. Protecting Mahomes (especially as he enters his 30s) needs to be top priority.

Miami lost again today and I believe the articles about Terron Armstead being the one Vet Miami could move before the deadline because they have a rookie waiting behind him.

Go get Armstead and let Kingsley learn behind him.

The Chiefs have done enough scouting and drafting. They have to work on developing, and unfortunately a lot of that can only be achieved with time.

I will also bring up that Ethan Driskell is still on the 53-man roster and has not yet been demoted to practice squad through all of these bottom-of-the-roster churning moves we've made this year.

I know he's not somebody you pencil in going into an offseason or anything like that, but the Chiefs need to consider all of their options, and if his preseason is any indication, he's got something that could be used, even as a backup.

Fans aren't going to like it, but I think we've got to stay the course. Keep coaching and evaluating guys. Hope one of them sticks. If it's looking bleak in the practices and guys aren't progressing, then you consider making another move like we did for OBJ a few years ago and try again going that route.

That's all we got.

There it is, facts.

Agree.

Is Kingsley still viewed as the long term LT for us by the Chiefs? He just needs to work on his technique?

They are going to stay the course with Morris and Kingsley.. Other than one bad series Morris was ok, not great but ok.. Patrick wasnt running for his life.. I do think Kingsley needs to get in for more game experience after working on his technique for 5 weeks..

Kingsley could always be our RT of the future and replace Taylor. LT should be the priority

Back when I was hoping the Chiefs would make a more concerted effort to move Taylor to the left side, I was told on here that LT and RT are basically the same these days

The folks here seem to think that winning erases poor LT/RT play and that as long as the team keeps winning no changes are necessary.

The problem is Crosby is the best DE in the NFL. He makes most tackles look bad.

And some folks here seem to think if we aren’t all pro at every position we can’t win a SB….

Bosa was having his way with our tackles last week and Hendrickson almost single handedly wrecked the o-line vs Cincy. it's not just Crosby.

Then Suamataia needs to start playing. Morris is not a long term answer at LT and Mahomes doesn't trust him at all.

New coaching? As in a younger stud OL assistant.

It’s tough to develop OL due to the style of college play. Maybe find a guy that’s proficient at it.

As good as he is, I wouldn't want that. I can't stand that ****er.