A Level Headed Review Week 8 2024
 

First drive was a thing of beauty. Dhop with the nice 13 yard catch on 3rd and 7, Kelce with a 25 yard reception and then Perine with a nice 21 yard catch on the rainbow pass from Mahomes on 3rd and 5. Then Hunt capping off the drive with two hard runs on goal to go. Offense seems to be getting back on track.

I just noticed...Garner Minshew II who the hell names their kid after themselves with that kinda name LMAO

Defense seems like it needs to feel out the offense on the first drive.

Mahomes looks like he has a smashed finger on his non-throwing hand
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A Watson sighting with a nice 19 yard catch.

Mahomes either over threw Dhop or Dhop shorted his route....either way he was wide open and that should have been a completion.

Run defense is very stout. Love seeing them stuff anything run between the tackles.

Karlaftis with the nice deflection to end the Raiders drive.

3rd Chiefs offensive series:
Nice seeing Worthy getting some short yardage catches.
Kelce with the nice 1st down with the shovel pass.

That damned offensive offsides call - Fortson needs to be aware of the LOS

Steele sighting with the catch on the swing pass.

Shitty Raider field, Hunt could have had more if not for that slip and fall on the swing pass out of the backfield.

Great catch by Kelce for the TD and Dhop was just as excited for Kelce to get the TD. Love seeing that, I think Dhop is gonna really enjoy this ride.

Johnson out with a concussion...getting thin at CB as well

Jones just swallowed up Myers on that jet sweep lol

McDuffie chasing down Minshew was just beautiful. Too bad he couldn't get the sack but the end result was just as good.

Now we get a look at the "2 minute" offense with 58 seconds left.

The Kelce lateral to Perine was beautiful, just looked like Perine got caught looking up field and dropped the pitch. Good recovery and fortunate to be able to get out of bounds. I know we have all seen 13 seconds but it amazes me still what Pat and this offense can do with very little time.

Dhop with the 16 yard catch to put us in FG range AND put Pat at over 30,000 yards passing in his career fastest to make that mark in 103 games.


Defense starts the 2nd half stuffing everything they try.

Gah I thought the illegal block in the back penalty was pretty ticky tacky. There was a slight push in the back on the return, not sure it even had a huge impact on the return. But the refs love us.

The ball was a little low for Kelce but gotta make those catches, then Worthy not able to bring that pass in.

That was an amazing acting job by the Raider returner - Williams did not put that much effort into that but he made it look like he body slammed him. Bad call imo.

The holding on J Williams was weird, they didn't show it and it was a super late call.

Our run defense is just disgusting. Go ahead and try and run against us.

Karlaftis with the timely sack.

Can we stop with the blocks in the back Hicks? Pretty please?

What a terrible offensive series - Wanya was getting owned, lucky that wasn't a safety on the first hold.

Pat getting that pass hit on the third attempt at 1st down looked like Taylor let that guy thru.

What a DEFENSIVE stand that was.. Holy shit our running D is stout. Our defense really saved our bacon on that series. Raiders should have taken the 3 points - they will regret that.

What a catch by Gray to clean up the dropped pass by Worthy. To be fair it looks like the defender got his hand on the ball as worthy tried to catch it.

Great march down the field to get in the red zone but couldn't punch it in. Worthy gotta work on holding on to the ball. Seems to have difficulty keeping it secure when challenged just a little bit.

Nice forced fumble by Pennel.

Great catch and run by Worthy for the TD. This is by far one of my fav pics from the game.
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Seems like our DB room needs some serious help. Rolland-Wallace and Williams were pretty consistently getting picked on thru the game. Maybe one more move is for a CB.

Fortson hurt again and it doesn't look good.

32-5 against the AFC west is Mahomes in his career.

Great write up again. You're getting pretty good at this, bud.

With fortson hurt that opens the door for more dhop and less 13 personnel.

I’m glad that this has helped us win some ugly ones. But it’s not a long term strategy. In just a few plays we saw the tremendous gravity that dhop brings. Today showed both that we can continue to win ugly but we need dhop to help us win the games that will matter

Shit. Just remembered I put DHop in as my flex. Pretty sure I just got hosed. Dammit, Andy.

I didn't have Jones ****ing destroying the running game wasn't on my bingo card.

Furious George was around the ball every ****ing play.

Mahomes looked good, Crosby whipped Morris again.

Probably better hit the well of off-the-couch pass catchers, again.

I'm actually on board with CB help. Rolland-Wallace and Williams got abused.

Yeah I’m thinking a corner is needed

Fortson never has been able to stay healthy. He has the talent. He just can't stay on the field long enough to become a factor.

That's what I said in the game chat. CB or we will be wanting with who we have now.

Should not be the top of Verch's list. If Reid doesn't trust Kingsley then we need to get in a LT because Morris is a ****ing liability.

Both things are true.

Where are we going to get a starting caliber LT?

This.

Watson is a big loss.

Nazeeh Johnson struggled and Joshua Williams struggled worse.

Raiders only had 228 yards even with all those garbage yards the last drive...

Give some dogshit team a package with Skyy Moore and CEH for their starting LT. Verch can get it done.

There you go, problem solved.

Yeah I think the chiefs will make a move. And right now an OT and CB make the most sense. Also at what point do we just see what Kingsleys got? Wanya has always been the safer option with no upside.

And how long will it take for a brand new OT to learn the playbook?

I don't think Wanya was terrible, he just had some bad plays at inopportune times. I would press for CB over LT. We can solve Wanya problems with RB chipping.

Minshew eats boogers, just like Rodgers... you just can't unsee it, I'm telling you they're dirty little snots who eat boogers

LMAO

I'm not aware of who could be had this coming week. And most likely on the cheap as well.

I don't think he was very good, but 1) any team that has a decent LT isn't giving him up; and 2) even if we could find one that was somehow available, how the heck is he going to both learn the playbook and gel with the rest of the OL in any reasonable amount of time?

I'd rather see what Kingsley has learned since he got benched.

Said in chat I hope Kareem can hold up. He is taking a beating.

We need to figure out the 2nd CB position quick. Spags will adjust to what we have but damn I didn’t expect the drop off to go so far with Watson’s injury.

That said we only gave up 20 due to ****ing prevent defense.

They're chewy see, and they give those reeruns something to think about

Meh. I don't blame Spags for going to prevent. Defense played out of their minds for the most part, like that GL stand, and guys were starting to get dinged up. Not like LV was going to come back at that point. Even the TD pass was luck. Minshew threw a perfect pass. Shit happens.

I think they are beating him up now knowing help is on the way. Between Pacheco and ceh we will have an embarrassment of riches

I thought CEH would be back by now. Let him eat some carries and get beat up for those 3 to 4 yard gains.

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He has said he looks up to Rodgers and try to emulate him.

Williams looks completely lost out there. Is this the same guy that played so well last year?

I said last week Perine needs more carries. Hunts legs are going to fall off.

Some reason they’re feeding Steele over Perine.

And NO penalties today. Though, Morris picked up his slack.

They're expecting Pacheco back so they're riding Hunt for now.

Was he in the same role? Last year they had Sneed carrying a big load.

Saints lost against today. Lets not F around with the three peat over one glaring weakness, Veach. Go get Marshon Lattimore and let the rest of the league grab their ankles.

Still would have a huge problem at LT..

I trust Mahomes/Kelce/Reid in the playoffs. Dont want a weak link on that defense.

Agreed - while we need a functional offense, our defense is gonna carry us through the tough spots.

I don't know if anyone else caught it but the pass to Dhop just before half for 13 yards was the pass that pushed Mahomes over 30,000 yards passing in his career. How fitting is it that Dhop was the WR that helped him reach that milestone.

Good review.

Our run defense puts offenses in passing situations more than usual.. McDuffy had some contested catches on him too..

This series of thread starters is basically OP jotting down what they see during the game. Why not use the game day thread? I don’t get much of a ‘review’ vibe from this.

This isn’t cohesive - I appreciate the effort, but maybe work on the format. We could read the play-by-play and get 90% of what’s happening here.

Needs a quick review and summarization and it will be good to go.

Good. Nobody is going back to the game day thread after it’s over let alone wading through hundreds of posts. Not to mention the panic or overenthusiasm that often sets in during the game

OP adds lots and lots of points which gives people plenty of topics to chew on. Some might really peak your interest, and others not at all. But you get lots to choose from. I think it’s great.

Pacheco back with Hunt backing him up, DHop getting up to speed, Kelce rounding into form, Worthy only getting better....even without Hollywood and Rice, this offense is going to be cooking coming into December. Which is a complete luxury, because with the way the D is playing, we really only need a decent O.

Some folks want the early year Mahomes offense and are frustrated by this “boring”offense, but it works and that’s all that matters.

Take a look around the league.The Ravens lost to the freaking Browns, the Bengals got their shit pushed in by the Eagles at home, the Colts had so many opportunities to win yesterday and threw them all away, the Bears gave up a freaking Hail Mary.

The Chiefs are just a machine that’s taking care of business. They’re getting everyone’s best shot and simply don’t care.

Remember last year when the Chiefs just continued making mistakes and checked out of games like the Broncos, Lions and XMas Raiders? That doesn’t appear to be happening this year.

These guys are as consistent as I have ever seen them and that’s terrifying for everyone else.

I don’t think we’re ever going back go to that offense and I don’t think many expect that. But on just a couple of snaps using an aging Hopkins where we actually targeted him we saw clearly what we’ve been longing for. He alone adds such a dimension to the offense.

I think we see the potential for issues. We will have lukewarm defensive performances where we have to go heavy on pass script. Pass rushers that can get to mahomes all day. Teams that can effectively stop kelce without selling out. Mahomes tendency to play hero ball when drives stall or we can’t finish long. Games where our developing rookie worthy can’t be overused. For the rest of the year we probably won’t be a pass first offense but we are at our best when we put the ball in mahomes’ hands when it matters most. And I think all of us recognize his greatness while at the same time recognizing that we are a bit nervous about our ability to come from behind or ice games with our passing game

Worthy needs a little more strength in his hands. We can't have a faster Skyy Moore. Need to make tough or challenged catches.

Not sure what else I can fault about yesterday except the constant run up the gut on 2nd down that gained little to nothing like 20 times. Too predictable in that formation and player set.

One of the better all around games.

If Brown and Pacheco come back healthy, the injuries may end up helping this team threepeat.

If Pacheco and Rice don't get injured, they probably don't bring in Hopkins, Hunt, or JuJu. I'd rather have Rice than Hopkins but there's more depth after the signings made because of injuries.

ROFL
It’s true. Some CPers will literally complain about anything.

Fantastic point. Without those injuries those other “upgrades” never happen.

It’s literally feedback to make things better? Weak personal esteem will confuse feedback for complaints every time.

What value does “great rush by George there” have after the fact? Just add some context, combine similar thoughts into a cohesive paragraph and then we’ll have something resembling a good recap (I.e. gblowfish’s 10 things)

If you feel you can do better … please. I am open to constructive criticism but you are literally the first person to complain. I am not a sports writer by trade and my intention is not to replicate that but rather provide some balance between the “OMG HE SUX” and “TRADE FOR A LT now!!” Comments found in the GDT

If I have worthwhile contemporaneous thoughts I stick them in the game thread. I’m telling you what better looks like and you are free to disregard. I’m just saying I don’t know why ‘level-headed’ game day thread type thoughts need a second thread.

Some of your content is cool. Some is fluff when there’s no context. Again this is purely from an unsolicited editorial viewpoint.

Some additional thoughts on video review:

Wanya held up really well in pass pro on the bigger plays for Pat such as:
The 16 yard pass to Hopkins (against K’Lavon Chaisson)
Mahomes first down rainbow to Perine (also against Chaisson) Mahomes bailed early from pressure DT Adam Butler straight up the middle.
The 19 yard pass to Watson Mahomes had a very clean pocket for 3-4 seconds and Morris held his man Tyree Wilson very well.

The third down sack with about a minute to go in the 1st was Wanya getting beat by Wilson around the edge.
Again on the worthy 1st down the DE (unknown) got past Wanya on the outside but it was a quick hit play for a first down on 3rd&2.

Wanya did decent against Crosby on the 3rd&6 flip pass to Grey. Mahomes had to step up in the pocket form the pressure and then took off running to draw the defenders in. While it wasn’t a great rep for Wanya is sure was much better than some reps later against Crosby.

Wanya absolutely whiffed on the Kelce TD when Chaisson did a swim move on him. Fortunately Kelce was open quick and it didn’t matter.

Every play of the last drive if the first half Wanya was stout against Chaisson. On the last play (to Hopkins) he “discarded” Chaisson to the ground and engaged Butler to hold the pocket for Mahomes.

We all know how the second drive in the 3rd went pinned at the 3 yard line when Crosby abused him. On the interception play he actually held his own well and got a little help from Perine.

Every 4th quarter snap Wanya held up well against both Chaisson and Crosby. On the last TD Hunt helped Wanya with a chip against Deablo rushing.

Worthy feels like a nice supplementary piece but absolutely not ready to break out. He's not this year's Rice. The hands but also i don't think he's as polished a route runner as some suggested coming out. On the plus side his speed IS scaring the living s**t out of teams, and that remains helpful.

Hopkins immediately looks like a force multiplier. Not only is he an upgrade on the bottom roster guys, he's doing exactly as advertised is helping Kelce. Really is a Rice replacement without the YAC. Man it's nice to have someone with hands that good.

Morris I think is worse than Donovan Smith last year. I think we're stretching what is possible in terms of winning with sub-par LTs. Really would prefer to see Kingsley given the snaps. I'm not convinced he's worse.

Felt like Nazeeh was playing nice on the left and maybe finally locked in. The opposite of Williams. Crazy how bad he's fallen off.

DL pass rush felt pretty meh, run D on the other hand was superb. Story of the season

It feels like right now we get a better version of mecole and Mvs all in one WR. A guy who can do absurd things moving sideways and vertical. I still think Hollywood is what is needed to unlock rookie worthy. Hollywood is the guy who can attack some of those intermediate spaces with speed.

To one of the earlier op points, just a disappointing showing by Fortson all around... a penalty, no catches, and immediately gets injured again

I had visions of gumdrop trees and lemonade streams his first few years, but at some point you just have to give up... the guy isn't built for the NFL

Nah fortson is like a Blake bell guy. We thought he was gonna be a big body target. But turns out he’s just an exceptional run blocker. At a time when we needed to run like it was our job. And we did. He’s not built to stay healthy for the nfl but it was a good plug in for a few games that costed us nothing

Wasn’t he originally a WR converted to TE? Maybe all that extra mass is too much to handle

I miss gblowfish's 10 things. Denver's attempt to replace that helps. And no one else is doing it. And just about every time he posts these reviews, he reminds me of something (or things) that I forgot about or didn't notice, so to me there's value in it.


And finally, if you want people to take your advice, maybe try wording ti a ittle better, instead of, " I don’t get much of a ‘review’ vibe from this," you could try, "hey, just some constructive criticism here," or "this is nice, but I'd like to see 'x' as well."


You know, honey vs. vinegar. Ymmv.