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SHOWTIME 10-28-2024 10:52 AM

Josh Uche Traded to Chiefs
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Patriots?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Patriots</a> are trading pass-rusher Josh Uche to the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>, sources tell me and <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MikeGarafolo</a>. Coming off a win, KC lands a a new player on the edge. <a href="https://t.co/FGnWGIDom3">pic.twitter.com/FGnWGIDom3</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1850943446632337753?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 28, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

O.city 10-28-2024 10:53 AM

Hell yeah, nice.

I'd been banging this drum for a while.

Dante84 10-28-2024 10:53 AM

6th round pick

493rd 10-28-2024 10:53 AM

Fantastic! Was thinking corner but Edge works for me!

notorious 10-28-2024 10:53 AM

They did it!

Who?

htismaqe 10-28-2024 10:53 AM

**** yeah.

DJ's left nut 10-28-2024 10:53 AM

Oh I like...

Uche's a real nice rotational pass rusher. He doesn't really do anything else to speak of, but that's fine.

That's some good 3rd down juice and probably didn't cost much at all.

Sassy Squatch 10-28-2024 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17769641)
They did it!

Who?

Had 11.5 sacks in 2022. I know quite a few here wanted to bring him in.

notorious 10-28-2024 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17769645)
Had 11.5 sacks in 2022. I know quite a few here wanted to bring him in.

Nice, for a team that lost a lot of games and weren't playing against the pass very much that's very impressive.

Dante84 10-28-2024 10:54 AM

24.1% pass rush win rate…. Good God

O.city 10-28-2024 10:55 AM

2026 5th round pick what they gave up

Mecca 10-28-2024 10:55 AM

This is the speed rusher they have been looking for.

notorious 10-28-2024 10:55 AM

Why would NE give up such an asset?

Superbowltrashcan 10-28-2024 10:56 AM

2026 Sixth round pick for him.

O.city 10-28-2024 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17769659)
Why would NE give up such an asset?

He's a FA after this season, they signed him to a 1 year deal IIRC.

Sassy Squatch 10-28-2024 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17769649)
24.1% pass rush win rate…. Good God

This year?!?

Mecca 10-28-2024 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17769659)
Why would NE give up such an asset?

He's basically a 1 dimensional role player that won't be around when they are any good, for us he's a great fit, for them it's like having a great 8th inning guy on a team that wins 62 games.

Megatron96 10-28-2024 10:57 AM

Well I’’ll be darned.


I was just reading about how TB should make a play for this guy before the KC game. Like half an hour ago.

DJ's left nut 10-28-2024 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17769649)
24.1% pass rush win rate…. Good God

Yeah - dude gets after it.

Could this FINALLY be the true LEO we've been thinking Spags may try out? That's a Gus Bradley trick but I've always thought that we might give it a spin with some 4-3 under sort of stuff.

FlaChief58 10-28-2024 10:58 AM

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Cheater5 10-28-2024 10:59 AM

Don't want to jump to conclusions, but I wonder if this indicates Omenihu and/or Danna might be out longer than anticipated?

DJ's left nut 10-28-2024 10:59 AM

No seriously folks, this is TURNKEY 4-3 Under.

Because of Chenal. You can use Chenal as a hybrid 'backer and drop him down in-line as an SDE. Then you can slide the rest of the DL over a gap and push the Weakside DE out to a wide position.

Chenal makes this possible because of his ability to operate on the line. It's a pure hybrid look that we could use really REALLY well.

We're gonna see some cool shit with Uche as a Leo rusher. I'm sure of it.

Mecca 10-28-2024 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17769668)
Yeah - dude gets after it.

Could this FINALLY be the true LEO we've been thinking Spags may try out? That's a Gus Bradley trick but I've always thought that we might give it a spin with some 4-3 under sort of stuff.

Yea he's very different than the rest of our room, he doesn't set the edge very well or really defend the run at all, he's a 1 dimensional speed rusher. But that is a piece our DL is missing.

Mecca 10-28-2024 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheater5 (Post 17769675)
Don't want to jump to conclusions, but I wonder if this indicates Omenihu and/or Danna might be out longer than anticipated?

I doubt it, much different players, they may have the same position listed but they are different, like Uche can not lineup at DT.

Sassy Squatch 10-28-2024 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheater5 (Post 17769675)
Don't want to jump to conclusions, but I wonder if this indicates Omenihu and/or Danna might be out longer than anticipated?

We have nobody that does what Uche can do.

chiefzilla1501 10-28-2024 11:01 AM

I would still love a cb or lt. But this is a ridiculous steal

Hammock Parties 10-28-2024 11:01 AM

11.5 sacks in 2022? LMAO

Spags is going to cook hard now.

BleedingRed 10-28-2024 11:02 AM

Still want a CB

staylor26 10-28-2024 11:02 AM

Wow great ****ing move. We're really going to 3peat, aren't we?

DJ's left nut 10-28-2024 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17769679)
Yea he's very different than the rest of our room, he doesn't set the edge very well or really defend the run at all, he's a 1 dimensional speed rusher. But that is a piece our DL is missing.

Which is way less critical in that Under look because you've essentially pushed Wharton out to the 5 technique now with Jones/Karlaftis in the middle and Chenal at SDE.

And you don't have to do it that way every time because Uche has played coverage looks in NE. He's not great at it, but he's no worse than Chenal. So really, you could flip that look at times if you wanted to. Or you could do all sorts of weird zone blitz shit with it.

He's a fantastic chess piece for Spags, IMO. Especially when Omenihu comes back because Omenihu can be that same guy as Wharton is under that front, but better.

O.city 10-28-2024 11:03 AM

"Teams won't trade with the Chiefs"

chiefzilla1501 10-28-2024 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17769667)
Well I’’ll be darned.


I was just reading about how TB should make a play for this guy before the KC game. Like half an hour ago.

Some team needs to do well in the nfc south so those teams can stop throwing money and picks away like drunks

Mecca 10-28-2024 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17769690)
"Teams won't trade with the Chiefs"

The shitty teams that don't care will, it is hilarious that it's the Pats though.

RunKC 10-28-2024 11:05 AM

**** yeah! I loved this guy coming out.

O.city 10-28-2024 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17769693)
The shitty teams that don't care will, it is hilarious that it's the Pats though.

Shitty teams like the Ravens?

Titty Meat 10-28-2024 11:06 AM

What a ****ing deal. He signed for peanuts IIRC surprising because he can get to the QB

staylor26 10-28-2024 11:07 AM

Was he on a one year deal this year?

Mecca 10-28-2024 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17769698)
Shitty teams like the Ravens?

I think the Ravens didn't think all that highly of Orlando and took the best offer they had.

Mecca 10-28-2024 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17769700)
Was he on a one year deal this year?

Yea 1 for 3, he apparently didn't have much action in the market due to his down year.

ROYC75 10-28-2024 11:07 AM

I like this trade on the front side, but IMHO we need some back side help.

Just think we are getting Charles back sometime.

Mecca 10-28-2024 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17769682)
I would still love a cb or lt. But this is a ridiculous steal

There's some weird rumor out there that Carolina is going to make Jaycee Horn available, he's injury prone though.

Sassy Squatch 10-28-2024 11:09 AM

Call up the Jets about Adams.

TwistedChief 10-28-2024 11:09 AM

This is an absolutely awesome move.

Our DL is going to be so, so good when Omenihu is back.

dlphg9 10-28-2024 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17769693)
The shitty teams that don't care will, it is hilarious that it's the Pats though.

Bills just traded this off-season. Ravens traded us a LT.

kcgreene 10-28-2024 11:10 AM

Burt Vartch does it again!!!

dlphg9 10-28-2024 11:10 AM

Excited about this guy. He can get after the QB!

Mecca 10-28-2024 11:10 AM

I wonder how much of this is the Pats going "Yea **** the Bills"

Kman34 10-28-2024 11:11 AM

A good pass rush is an average CBs friend…

Warpaint69 10-28-2024 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 17769704)
I like this trade on the front side, but IMHO we need some back side help.

Just think we are getting Charles back sometime.

I think this move is a help the corners move. They needed a speed rusher, have needed one for sometime.

Gravedigger 10-28-2024 11:12 AM

Alright then, there it is, we ride or die with the secondary that we got, let’s go!

philfree 10-28-2024 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17769709)
This is an absolutely awesome move.

Our DL is going to be so, so good when Omenihu is back.

This guy getting close to ready?

TLO 10-28-2024 11:14 AM

Covert him to LT and LFG!!!!

PHOG 10-28-2024 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17769667)
Well I’’ll be darned.


I was just reading about how TB should make a play for this guy before the KC game. Like half an hour ago.

Nothing gets by Bart Vatch!

Kman34 10-28-2024 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17769709)
This is an absolutely awesome move.

Our DL is going to be so, so good when Omenihu is back.

This could also mean that Omenihu isn’t coming along like they would like.. ACLs are funny.. Sometimes it takes till year 2 to have confidence in that knee..

suzzer99 10-28-2024 11:16 AM

I wonder if this means anything about Omenihue's timeline.

(My pony is slow.)

TLO 10-28-2024 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 17769730)
I wonder if this means anything about Omenihue's timeline.

(My pony is slow.)

This post raises a lot of questions. Primarily about you.

Do you need medical assistance?

Kman34 10-28-2024 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17769734)
This post raises a lot of questions. Primarily about you.

Do you need medical assistance?

Low “T”…

pugsnotdrugs19 10-28-2024 11:18 AM

11.5 sacks in 2022. Damn.

chiefzilla1501 10-28-2024 11:19 AM

I don’t think there’s anything to read into it. It allows us to take our time with omenihu and when we get him back we have lots and lots of scheme flexibility. And we get this all pretty much for free

crispystl 10-28-2024 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 17769737)
Low “T”…

LMAO

pugsnotdrugs19 10-28-2024 11:20 AM

I’ve took the stance for awhile that counting on Omenihu to be his 2023 self is a little ignorant to what history shows.

Best case, he starts looking normal by the playoffs.

SHOWTIME 10-28-2024 11:21 AM

Plus he can spy Lamar in the playoffs…he ran a 4.58 40 time

DJ's left nut 10-28-2024 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17769741)
I don’t think there’s anything to read into it. It allows us to take our time with omenihu and when we get him back we have lots and lots of scheme flexibility. And we get this all pretty much for free

Completely different strengths and roles. Uche works much better WITH a guy like Omenihu on the roster than without.

This doesn't say anything about Omenihu. If anything it suggests to me that they do expect him back or this isn't the kind of guy they'd be adding.

He complements a Danna/Omenihu sort just perfectly.

dirk digler 10-28-2024 11:22 AM

That Cam Thomas trade has been a bust. Hopefully this ends up better.

Sassy Squatch 10-28-2024 11:22 AM

This may be the best DL Spags will have here.

pugsnotdrugs19 10-28-2024 11:23 AM

Andy said today they think they’ll be fine at corner. Guessing this was part of that thought.

Mecca 10-28-2024 11:23 AM

Omenihu and Uche are nothing alike, Uche is a speed rusher that doesn't defend the run and can play hand down or standing up...Omenihu is a power rusher DE/DT hybrid.

Trading for Uche has no bearing on Omenihu this just gives the Chiefs a player they didn't have, our entire rush is based on power, having a speed guy allows for some different looks and gives the offense something else to deal with.

pugsnotdrugs19 10-28-2024 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17769751)
This may be the best DL Spags will have here.

It’s not all that close in my mind. May have been before the trade.

mr. tegu 10-28-2024 11:25 AM

Who?

Sassy Squatch 10-28-2024 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17769757)
It’s not all that close in my mind. May have been before the trade.

Only reason for the may is uncertainty with Onenihu and Danna.

dirk digler 10-28-2024 11:25 AM

Could also mean they don't believe BJ Thompson will play this year. This guy looks like a much better player though.

KCDC 10-28-2024 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warpaint69 (Post 17769717)
I think this move is a help the corners move. They needed a speed rusher, have needed one for sometime.

Dee Ford 2.0?

Tonka83 10-28-2024 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 17769737)
Low “T”…

I hear there is some kind of pills that are constantly being advertised on AM sports radio stations that will fix this.

(I have zero knowledge of these products myself of course)

Mecca 10-28-2024 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17769748)
That Cam Thomas trade has been a bust. Hopefully this ends up better.

They've been bringing him on slowly same for the DT from Philly.

kevrunner 10-28-2024 11:27 AM

Here’s 1 comment from the Bills forum and there’s plenty like this in their thread about the trade. This is a great move by the Chiefs:

“For a freaking 6th rounder in 2026. NE basically gave him away! WTF NE!!!!”

RealSNR 10-28-2024 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17769754)
Andy said today they think they’ll be fine at corner. Guessing this was part of that thought.


That was my biggest concern, but Spags has shown the ability to get guys ready to play increased roles when we need them.

Remember when we told Ken Fuller to play safety midway through 2019? And he was pretty damn good?

Pasta Little Brioni 10-28-2024 11:28 AM

Great move

louie aguiar 10-28-2024 11:29 AM

Uche beating Wanya last year


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wanya Morris against Josh Uche. Pass protection is where Wanya needs the most work and Uche timed this speed to power bench press perfectly. Caught Wanya on one foot and down he goes. Uche is legit <a href="https://t.co/jl4X8CX2Uc">pic.twitter.com/jl4X8CX2Uc</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Harms�� (@InHarmsWay19) <a href="https://twitter.com/InHarmsWay19/status/1736838243767701857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 18, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ChiefsHawk 10-28-2024 11:29 AM

Next question is whats the cap hit

arrowheadnation 10-28-2024 11:30 AM

AND Omenihu is coming back in a few weeks!


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