Jaguars LT Cam Robinson traded to the Vikings
 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trade: The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Vikings?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Vikings</a> are adding a new left tackle, completing a trade with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jaguars?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Jaguars</a> to acquire LT Cam Robinson in exchange for draft pick compensation, per me and <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TomPelissero</a>.<br><br>An answer with Christian Darrisaw out for the season. <a href="https://t.co/VmlVXU6ufN">pic.twitter.com/VmlVXU6ufN</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1851400830177440195?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Vikings get Cam Robinson and a conditional 2026 7th (that can go away based on playtime) and Jaguars get a conditional 2026 5th that can become a 4th based on playtime, per source.</p>&mdash; Dianna Russini (@DMRussini) <a href="https://twitter.com/DMRussini/status/1851409271784661134?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

****!!!!!

Who?

We gettin his ass in FA next March

Curious to see how much the trade comp is. Vikings have **** all in 2025 so they may have sent a 2026 pick.

Paper Tiger team. Sam Darnold will not take them to the promised land. Dumb watching mid teams go all-in.

The Lions are head and shoulders above everyone else in the NFC, and even they have flaws.

He may look like a dude who could murder someone for blowing an obnoxiously loud horn

I have been saying LT's don't get traded mid-season, but it looks like I'm just flat out wrong lol.

I mean dammit

Did they send them a 3rd or better? How is this going all-in?

Good, we don’t need him we need a CB.

Welp, I guess I was wrong, lol. MIN going all in looks like. Wonder if they plan on re-signing Sam?

Why?

The move made sense as a bandaid but I’d rather hopefully have Kingsley going by 2025, or find someone even better via trade/draft trade.

Really good ones don’t.

He’s solid, definitely woulda helped us… but probably neck and neck with OBJ if not a little worse.

Yeah, I'd be shocked and pretty disappointed if Kingsley got written off like that over getting beaten by Trey Hendrickson in his second career start.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Vikings get Cam Robinson and a conditional 2026 7th (that can go away based on playtime) and Jaguars get a conditional 2026 5th that can become a 4th based on playtime, per source.</p>&mdash; Dianna Russini (@DMRussini) <a href="https://twitter.com/DMRussini/status/1851409271784661134?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So basically teams are just giving guys away for nothing at this point.

His contract can not fit into our cap ATM so I'm guessing Veach either asked for them to eat cap and they said sure if you up the compensation and at that point Veach said no and Vikings said that they would take as is! Shame

My post was before the comp was shared, a bit hasty

It’s weird. At least wait for the deadline when you have some leverage. I don’t get it.

No one cares

Veach isn't some johnny come lately, we have Morris and a 2nd rounder fighting for LT... there was always 0% chance we'd trade big for a LT

Robinson can get bent, our LT is already in house

Purely as a pass protector, he's really good. Better than OBJ.

I'd have liked to have had him but we'd have had to give our 3rd to top that compensation.

That's pretty steep.

But I'm not gonna act like he wouldn't have helped. He'd have been on par with Fish as a pass protector. That would've been pretty damn nice.

What the hell Veach! He was ours!

I'm with you. Mahomes is starting to get comfortable the last 3 games. It's not a great idea to start over at Left Tackle, which would be the 5th LT guy in just 3 seasons.

I want Veach to make a move for a defensive back. The secondary looked vulnerable without Jaylen Watson against a pretty questionable Raiders offense.

He would regress under the tutelage of Andy Heck.

Let's be honest though, it looked vulnerable for 2 drives to start the game.

Which is exactly how it looked WITH Watson. They looked pretty dominant for the latter 3/4 of that game.

We were never going to trade for a left tackle, they're all in with Morris and Kingsley for better or worse. I don't think Morris has the necessary athleticism for LT long term, could probably be passable there with some more seasoning if he can improve his technique enough to make up for a lack of athleticism but he's probably going to be a turnstile for the forseeable future against top pass rushers.

I wish Suamataia would get another chance this year but not sure that happens. I feel like we're going to be going into 2025 with LT being a question mark yet again but I hope I'm wrong. They really need one of these guys to be at least a middle of the pack left tackle sooner than later, can't have them getting beat instantly like they both have been prone to do this year.

Here's how I see it. The O Line is good enough to make a deep run again. You have 4 studs and a questionable left tackle. You can work around that. It's not as if half the line is decimated by injuries and we are playing backups.
An immediate need becomes CB2 which was exposed against the faid and will be further exposed against Allen, Stroud or even Wilson. That's where a guy like Lattimore can be had for a 3rd. He fills an immediate hole and makes the defense complete.

Woulda paid it without question.

Gave up a TD in so-called garbage time at the end, which then led to a pretty dangerous onside kick situation with multiple KC fumbles before Noah Gray saved the day. The game should not have come down to that.

Going back and watching snaps, Thuney and Morris looked pretty damn good working together.

What am I missing here? Lattimore has cap numbers of $31.4 and $28.5 the next 2 years, I seriously doubt they're adding a cornerback at that price.

The team that trades for him isn't eating his signing bonus proration. It'll be about $21.5 per.

It's his "this year" that's really attractive given he's at least a good solid starter and can look like a top 3 CB when he brings his best, he just isn't consistent.

We can get by with one weak link on the OL. Especially with Mahomes pocket mobility.


But for that compensation I would have been awfully tempted.


Still want a cheap press cover corner for the run.

Psst I heard he didn't even measure up to The Orange Mane standard

You guys keep shitting on OBJ but Cam isn't even in his neighborhood in grade, total pressures or passblock win rate this year.

Brown is just outside the top ten in passblock grading, lowest number of pressures and he's #1 in PBWR this year.

Damn, that's high as hell. Not happening then. Veach would have to pull up a move similar to the one Buffalo did last year with Rasul Douglas.

If he’s had a good start to this particular season, cool, good for him - haven’t exactly caught a lot of Bengals football this year

But the OBJ we knew and that I saw last year… he’s solid. That’s all.

He's playing above what's on the back of his card this year.

Robinson has his flaws -- per NGS, his sacks-allowed rate (2.2 percent) ranks seventh-highest among players with 150-plus pass-blocking snaps this season, Pro Football Focus grades him as the 43rd best run-blocker among offensive tackles in 2024 and he was recently replaced in the starting lineup. https://www.nfl.com/news/player-team...gs-wr-for-bucs

You keep saying this, but I have no idea what you are watching to think Wanya is playing well

Would not be surprised to see Donathan Smith back in the fold sometime soon. Not the most preferable option, but one of the few viable ones this time of the season. (Assuming that he’s kept himself in shape.)

They're not making a change at LT this late in the season. The die has been cast.

If they aren't planning to switch off Morris after the drubbing he took against the Raiders, it's not happening at all.

I mean, it's not THAT late in the season.

The Chiefs aren't even to the halfway point yet.

There's a TON of football yet to be played.

Agreed, but I do think even at Halloween here, our playoff left tackle is gonna one of three possible names:

Wanya, Kingsley, or Donovan.

Oh it's Andy - status quo is ALWAYS the safest bet on the OL.

I'm just saying it doesn't really have to be. There's still plenty of time to get an OT up to speed. I mean if you'd have traded for Robinson and just had Thuney tell him his assignment for the rest of the season, things would've been just fine.

This trade was never going to happen. They're not bringing in a LT.

Bad teams make dumb decisions which is why they are bad teams

I really thought we'd be more mad about this but I guess everyone shot their wad in the Dionte thread.

It goes against everything Andy has done throughout his career so really wasn't much to get worked up about. Now, if you want to criticize them for not being more proactive about finding a better backstop to Suamataia than just chuck Morris out there I'd understand and agree.

Minny ate the whole $9.5m in salary. They were desperate after losing Darrisaw for the year.

Even if KC wanted him, they couldn't pay that.

Oh.

Yeah, that's a pretty big deal even for a team that's not contending because it creates rollover for next season.

Being willing to eat that salary is worth a 3rd rounder in its own right. No wonder they gave so little to get him. $9.5 million in rollover for next season can be huge for Jacksonville.

This may or may not be true. Injuries happen & could force their hand. That would be really tricky if the injury or injuries happen after the trade deadline. Neither of the two young current options are playing well. If they get worse, the FO & coaches will have to do something to protect their best player.

(Smith racked up a lot of penalties his last few years and hasn’t played. Scary stuff if he’s your best option past the trade deadline.)

Andy is gonna roll with Kingsley bc he is so comparable to Eric Fisher. Just hope he’s ready next year.

He’s got all the physical traits. Get his ass with Duke Manyweather all offseason.

Thats not true, if the shit hits the fan, there is a pro bowl LT waiting to join a contender. He has stated that is what he wants. Bahktiari and Veach have probably been in touch.

Andy likes continuity on the O line but if Patrick doesnt feel comfortable or say another injury should happen, there is a way better option out there than D Smith.

Key word. "Planning". Yes, if one of the OTs gets injured they'll probably call up Donovan Smith just to have another body they're familiar with in house.

Uh, if Bahktari was above replacement level currently he'd be rostered.

That player has been injured, and there has been no news of his recovery and ability to play. Why would they probably have been in touch? Do you know something that the rest of us don’t? Or do you just like that player as an option and wish it to be true?

Hell, the Vikings just gave an early day 3 pick to the Jaguars and ate all of Robinson's remaining salary. You'd think they'd call up Bahktari first and offer him a reasonable deal to come in if he was anywhere near the player some folks seem to think he is.

Must have read you wrong. I think we’re all in agreement that the LT position has to improve. Penalties are bad enough. But getting number 15 injured is completely unacceptable. I still trust in BV and the coaches to figure it out. :thumb:

He has stated that he is ready to play but wont join just any team.

He said it would have to be a contender with a QB that is in the MVP race.

Not an exact quote but close.

I am not wanting this as I believe Andy is fine with letting the young Tackles figure it out.

The statement was made that after the trade deadline the only option left would be D Smith. I am pointing out that there is another option that I would say is better.

Andy may prefer D Smith since he knows the offense but that is NOT the only option.

LMAO Sure, he probably does think that highly of himself. But the entire league isn't having it. Hell, you don't think the Jets would've been all over him to protect Rodgers if they thought he was worth a shit? No, they gave a contract worth up to 20 million dollars to Tyron Smith instead, and he's virtually the same guy. A pro bowl caliber OT in his prime that's been ravaged by injury in recent seasons. Bahktari in 2024 ain't shit.

I can’t find any quotes or news online that states that he’s ready/able to play. Seems like that would be big news & that someone would have signed him by now. Only thing I found was wishful thinking from online opinion writers. Maybe my search skills need improvement.

Bahktiari was going to miss a lot of the early season coming off a serious injury. No one was going to offer him a 20 million contract for half a season? Not even the Jets.

I believe I heard this on Sirius, possibly "moving the chains". I like that show the most.

For the record, I am NOT advocating for this. I am just pointing out that if a Brake glass in case of emergency situation should occur after the trade deadline, D Smith is not the only option.

Ah. Gave up my subscription years ago. Good show.

Morris is going to be fine against most pass rushers. He sucks hard against Maxx Crosby for some reason (maybe because Crosby is elite??) but has held up decently against average to good talent. He had a bad couple of series in the Raiders game but will be fine.