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BlackOp 11-20-2024 11:46 PM

Would getting the 2nd seed actually be benificial?
 
If the Chiefs get the 2nd seed...they can likely rest their starters week 18. That game would be against the Donks...fighting for their post-season lives. If Denver were to win, they would play a rested KC the very next week @ Arrowhead. Two weeks to game plan in earnest while playing vanilla in the first meeting...Donks cant hold anything back.

Conversely, there is a chance the Ravens might be the lowest seed remaining after the first week of the play-offs. They would travel to the Bills. KC might see the Texans in week 2...

Bills lose to Ravens, KC gets HFA for the AFCCG...

Chiefs are in a good position to get a least some rest either way...obviously a first round bye is preferable but the 2nd seed might not be terrible either.

Rasputin 11-20-2024 11:50 PM

No. Get the one seed.

New World Order 11-20-2024 11:51 PM

Give me dat 1 seed!!!!

We’re getting a good opponent 2nd round no matter what.

Just get the bye

dlphg9 11-20-2024 11:52 PM

No, they can rest there starters for most of week 18, have a nice little bye week, have homefield advantage, and they'd only have 2 games to play before the SB instead of 3 games. Getting the bye lessens the chances of having injury.

BlackOp 11-20-2024 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17816762)
Give me dat 1 seed!!!!

Yeah...obviously. ..but that might entail a path of playing both the Ravens and Bills again.

Those are the two best AFC teams of the six options...

Just saying...it might not be that bad of a scenario.

Ming the Merciless 11-20-2024 11:57 PM

nope

Rasputin 11-20-2024 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 17816765)
Yeah...obviously. ..but that might entail a path of playing both the Ravens and Bills again.

Those are the two best AFC teams of the six options...

Just saying...it might not be that bad of a scenario.

Bring them the **** on. We will be ready for them.

BWillie 11-20-2024 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 17816758)
If the Chiefs get the 2nd seed...they can likely rest their starters week 18. That game would be against the Donks...fighting for their post-season lives. If Denver were to win, they would play a rested KC the very next week @ Arrowhead. Two weeks to game plan in earnest while playing vanilla in the first meeting...Donks cant hold anything back.

Conversely, there is a chance the Ravens might be the lowest seed remaining after the first week of the play-offs. They would travel to the Bills. KC might see the Texans in week 2...

Bills lose to Ravens, KC gets HFA for the AFCCG...

Chiefs are in a good position to get a least some rest either way...obviously a first round bye is preferable but the 2nd seed might not be terrible either.

Absolutely not.

BlackOp 11-21-2024 12:05 AM

Just to be clear...my OP wasnt saying KC should opt for the 2nd seed.

It was more about how the 2nd seed could work out to their advantage too....if that scenario plays out.

Chiefs have 4 final games against potential play-off teams...it's not as easy of a finish as it seemed in week one.

FloridaMan88 11-21-2024 12:06 AM

First round bye for a team that had an early season bye, guaranteed HFA throughout the playoffs, and only needing two wins to get to the Super Bowl… no brainer preference is the #1 seed.

BlackOp 11-21-2024 12:10 AM

The question is how much does KC show the Steelers/Texans that close to the post-season? There is some strategy at play here..

Pepe Silvia 11-21-2024 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 17816780)
The question is how much does KC show the Steelers/Texans that close to the post-season? There is some strategy at play here..

That will be the reason the Texans win imo. They will play the regular season match up Vanilla.

big nasty kcnut 11-21-2024 12:12 AM

one seed.

RunKC 11-21-2024 12:15 AM

Chiefs need HFA this year. Defense travels well in the playoffs and ours is not as good as last years.

They need 1 less game as well.

hometeam 11-21-2024 12:41 AM

No. How the **** am i supposed to go to AFC championship games on the other side of the country?

They dont call it the arrowhead invitational for nothin.

BlackOp 11-21-2024 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 17816790)
No. How the **** am i supposed to go to AFC championship games on the other side of the country?

They dont call it the arrowhead invitational for nothin.

My scenario had KC at home for the AFCCG...with the Ravens beating the Bills in the 2nd round. KC would play at home through out...

GabyKeepsMeWarm 11-21-2024 12:51 AM

One seed.

But **** it. We’ll make this a threepeat if it takes three or four games. We’ll be locked, loaded and ready when it comes playoffs time. Plus I like watching the Chiefs play, so I don’t mind seeing another game. Either way, we’ll have earned this big-time.

Bump 11-21-2024 01:05 AM

they don't give the bye to the #2 seed anymore, which is wicked retahded

so nah it wouldn't be

Danguardace 11-21-2024 01:28 AM

Add this to traitors and cowards thread

BossChief 11-21-2024 01:35 AM

Some beta shit right there.

Fishels 11-21-2024 01:36 AM

Sorry OP but no. Bye week or bust

Fishels 11-21-2024 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 17816765)
Yeah...obviously. ..but that might entail a path of playing both the Ravens and Bills again.

Those are the two best AFC teams of the six options...

Just saying...it might not be that bad of a scenario.

I don’t really understand what you mean. No matter what happens one seed or not, we are going to have to face tough teams to get to the SB. I don’t see how that’s any different from last year.

There really isn’t a cakewalk to the SB in the AFC

ChiefsCountry 11-21-2024 01:43 AM

What do the Jesuits say?

Danguardace 11-21-2024 01:48 AM

As it stands

Chiefs Bye

Bills host Broncos
Steelers host Ravens
Chargers at Texans

Yeah leave me out of that thanks factor in would have played 3 of those teams the 3 weeks prior.

BlackOp 11-21-2024 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17816803)
Some beta shit right there.

Listing potential post-season scenarios of a team I dont play for is hardly beta...living vicarious through them then pretending to be an alpha on the internet...is the very definition of it.

Like any of us have any bearing on how the team is going to perform down the stretch...

Chiefs won on a last second blocked FG against ****ing Bo Nix...then lost the following week. They arent currently lighting the world on fire and have 4 consecutive games against potential playoff teams and 3 games in a 10 day span....that's reality.

They are going to have to start playing a lot better to keep the #1 seed...they've looked lethargic for a month.

I frankly dont give a flying shit either way...they were the 3rd seed last year....didnt realize it was such a sensitive topic to point out the 2nd seed isnt the end of the world.

Sounds like a lot of poster's identities are tied to KC being having the bestest regular season record....that's their sad "beta" problem.

Fishels 11-21-2024 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17816786)
Chiefs need HFA this year. Defense travels well in the playoffs and ours is not as good as last years.

They need 1 less game as well.

Also our Bye was way WAY too early this year. NFL clearly doesn’t want threepeat imo

Nickhead 11-21-2024 02:17 AM

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BlackOp 11-21-2024 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Fishels (Post 17816815)
Also our Bye was way WAY too early this year. NFL clearly doesn’t want threepeat imo

Ha...the KC/Bills game had the largest viewer ratings of the year...and was an afternoon slate.

I said before the season that a Detroit/KC SB was the play...either way history will be made.

Mahomes/Chiefs/Swifties have become the adversary that any good story line requires...people want to see KC lose/fail. Chiefs looking average all season...barely squeaking by. It's all the grand rope-a-dope set-up.

It'll be the most watched SB...potentially ever. NFL knows this...

Jewish Rabbi 11-21-2024 02:30 AM

Why are you worried about it when it’s rigged anyway you butt ****ing moron

BlackOp 11-21-2024 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 17816822)
Why are you worried about it when it’s rigged anyway you butt ****ing moron

Who said I was...I'm not the one mouth-breathing/slobbering over the notion KC might not get the #1 seed.

NFL is free mindless entertainment...and Mahomes is a once in lifetime talent. I enjoy watching him play...that is pretty much where it ends with me. I like talking shit to rival fans...just for the sport of it...rigged or not.

You calling me a moron is rich...I bet your real life is stellar sequence of impeccable choices.

IrishChief 11-21-2024 04:12 AM

Bills next 3 games are Niners, Rams and Lions. Things should be much clearer mid December.

Mile High Mania 11-21-2024 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 17816811)
Listing potential post-season scenarios of a team I dont play for is hardly beta...living vicarious through them then pretending to be an alpha on the internet...is the very definition of it.

Like any of us have any bearing on how the team is going to perform down the stretch...

Chiefs won on a last second blocked FG against ****ing Bo Nix...then lost the following week. They arent currently lighting the world on fire and have 4 consecutive games against potential playoff teams and 3 games in a 10 day span....that's reality.

They are going to have to start playing a lot better to keep the #1 seed...they've looked lethargic for a month.

I frankly dont give a flying shit either way...they were the 3rd seed last year....didnt realize it was such a sensitive topic to point out the 2nd seed isnt the end of the world.

Sounds like a lot of poster's identities are tied to KC being having the bestest regular season record....that's their sad "beta" problem.

Looks like someone is choosing to wear their brown pants the rest of the season.

scho63 11-21-2024 06:45 AM

We could use a bye week in the worst way.

1 seed all day.

Coochie liquor 11-21-2024 06:51 AM

No, the way we’ve been playing we could lose to whoever the 7 seed is in the WC round, or get an injury. Let those teams beat up on each other for a weekend. Then we’ll step in and crush souls!

O.city 11-21-2024 07:54 AM

Interesting point. Makes sense.

But having 1 less game is way more important than who you play.

Why Not? 11-21-2024 07:58 AM

Why would we want to avoid the Ravens? Lamar is trash in big games.

Bearcat 11-21-2024 08:27 AM

That's basically been my "don't freak out if the Chiefs lose the 1 seed" scenario... whoever loses the AFCN would most likely go to Buffalo, and who would really be shocked to see the Bills lose that game and the AFCCG hosted at Arrowhead again.

In58men 11-21-2024 08:32 AM

Dumb thread ban for life

Gary Cooper 11-21-2024 08:52 AM

No.

Though I'm starting to realize that getting the #2 seed was fine when the top two seeds had a BYE. The BYE is more important than the home field advantage part.

Now it's paramount to be the #1 seed because only that team gets a BYE.

This season it's even worse because the Chiefs BYE week came after week 5. And they have that dumb Christmas schedule coming up. This team will need a break. Last year the pieces fell into place being healthier than the opposition in the first two playoff games and getting a weakened Miami team here in that freezing game. The first playoff game will be tougher this year with familiar opponents like Denver or LA possible.

IowaHawkeyeChief 11-21-2024 08:58 AM

The two seed would NEVER be better than the one seed... Ever. One more game for possible injuries. Reid is great off a bye week. Only 2 games to go to the SB, both at home.

pugsnotdrugs19 11-21-2024 09:03 AM

Yeah IDC who they play or don't, give me the home field and BYE. Not having to travel after a long season matters, even if just a little.

They are gonna have to win two or more tough games no matter who it is against if they wanna get to New Orleans.

ThaVirus 11-21-2024 09:12 AM

Worrying about which teams may be in which seeds this far out is folly.

#1 seed gives us a guaranteed bye and ticket to the Divisional. Hope for a good matchup from that point on.

BlackOp 11-21-2024 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 17816829)
Looks like someone is choosing to wear their brown pants the rest of the season.

Get back in the 3rd place cellar where you belong...Donko scum.

This thread is about a team with actual SB aspirations...

Geez...win a few games against bottom feeders and they crawl out of the woodwork.

IA_Chiefs_fan 11-21-2024 09:48 AM

Your mother and I are very disappointed in you. Don't bring this up again. We want the 1 seed.

DJ's left nut 11-21-2024 09:51 AM

No.

Not even a little bit.

We want the 1 seed. In all reality, we probably NEED the 1 seed.

Marcellus 11-21-2024 09:51 AM

Ridiculous question at this point. They need the bye week more than anything else.

BlackOp 11-21-2024 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 17816887)
Why would we want to avoid the Ravens? Lamar is trash in big games.

Chiefs wouldn't avoid the Ravens in the scenario I posted...Baltimore would play the Bills in Orchard Park. That is contingent on the Steelers winning the AFCN.

At any rate...dont care enough about this topic to interact with internet chest-beaters....not you...just not going to play along with the vicarious pile-on.

Chiefs get the #1,2,3,4 seed...it's nothing I control.

Somehow this got turned into that I'd prefer KC not get the #1 seed...was just illustrating a potential plan B scenario.

Marcellus 11-21-2024 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 17816990)
Chiefs wouldn't avoid the Ravens in the scenario I posted...Baltimore would play the Bills in Orchard Park. That is contingent on the Steelers winning the AFCN.

At any rate...dont care enough about this topic to interact with internet chest-beaters....not you...just not going to play along with the vicarious pile-on.

Chiefs get the #1,2,3,4 seed...it's nothing I control.

Aside from needing the bye week to get some rest there is another huge reason.

Playing 1 more game than necessary increases the likelihood of injury by a lot.

We have lost several players due to injury in playoff games including Mahomes for short stretches (that effected his play in other games after) and several OL over the years along with some important defensive players.

Playing 1 more game unnecessarily means 1 more game you might just have an off day.

Its a ridiculous question, in no scenario is the 2 seed a better option.

BlackOp 11-21-2024 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 17816996)

Its a ridiculous question, in no scenario is the 2 seed a better option.

I never implied it was a "better" option...only it could also work out to the Chiefs advantage.

People are ****ing weird when it comes to football....got Bills fans hitting some stranger in face with a dildo breaking his glasses...really brings out the low IQ territorials.

OMG OMG OMG...dont you dare mention KC not getting the #1 seed...my whole self-worth is tethered to it.

Mile High Mania 11-21-2024 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 17816982)
Get back in the 3rd place cellar where you belong...Donko scum.

This thread is about a team with actual SB aspirations...

Geez...win a few games against bottom feeders and they crawl out of the woodwork.

Yes, I’ve been in the woodwork. You sure get wound up for someone that believes the league is fixed.

cmh6476 11-21-2024 10:16 AM

yeah let's play one extra playoff game.






























































































Not.

RunKC 11-21-2024 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 17816990)
Chiefs wouldn't avoid the Ravens in the scenario I posted...Baltimore would play the Bills in Orchard Park. That is contingent on the Steelers winning the AFCN.

At any rate...dont care enough about this topic to interact with internet chest-beaters....not you...just not going to play along with the vicarious pile-on.

Chiefs get the #1,2,3,4 seed...it's nothing I control.

Somehow this got turned into that I'd prefer KC not get the #1 seed...was just illustrating a potential plan B scenario.

The Broncos will get the 7th seed and we will play them in the WC. The problem there is they have the best pass rush in the league and have throttled our offense 3 games in a row.

Do not underestimate how much of a bitch it will be playing those guys. Vance Joseph knows our offense since he’s seen it so many times.

Yes I still think we would win but the grind this team has taken is nuts. Any of us would rather take the bye then play a divisional team that knows us well and wants revenge for a game they should have won.

BlackOp 11-21-2024 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 17817022)
Yes, I’ve been in the woodwork. You sure get wound up for someone that believes the league is fixed.

You just think I get worked up...the NFL is going to do what the NFL does.

There is a thread on every teams forum about the "fixed" topic...so dont act like that opinion is some abstract outlier.

If it's "fixed"...it's for the team I watch...so I'll take it...dont really have a choice...it's just entertainment. Mahomes is the #1 sports rating darling in the world...of course the NFL is going to milk it...greed is their thing.

O.city 11-21-2024 10:31 AM

If they don't get the bye, the 2 wouldn't be the worst idea. Just have to hope someone goes in and beats Buffalo or whoever gets the 1 in the divisional round.

BigRedChief 11-21-2024 10:31 AM

HFA is now basically tied with the Bills. We lose, they win HFA. We need that week of rest more than anytime during this run.

The Bills should lose at least lose one more. That gives us the bye IF we win out. Bur, we would need to still win out till that final game.

-King- 11-21-2024 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 17817022)
Yes, I’ve been in the woodwork. You sure get wound up for someone that believes the league is fixed.

Was going to post this. It's always hilarious seeing the "ITS RIGGED" people try to discuss strategies. If it's rigged, why does it matter? The league will rig which seed we end up with and if we win the games in the playoffs right?

pugsnotdrugs19 11-21-2024 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17816988)
No.

Not even a little bit.

We want the 1 seed. In all reality, we probably NEED the 1 seed.

Last year was definitely the team best equipped to pull off a road run. This one would be close IF the defense gets their feet back underneath them on a level comparable to 2023.

But that team was built to win anywhere. Not pretty, but they could pack that defense up and a solid playoff ground game wherever they went.

wazu 11-21-2024 10:35 AM

Alternative proposal - After the Carolina game/win just rest starters rest of the year and take the 7 seed. No injuries, just get healthy, hold practices, and draw up crazy game plans for our likely playoff match-ups.

O.city 11-21-2024 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17817051)
Last year was definitely the team best equipped to pull off a road run. This one would be close IF the defense gets their feet back underneath them on a level comparable to 2023.

But that team was built to win anywhere. Not pretty, but they could pack that defense up and a solid playoff ground game wherever they went.

It was also a pretty improbable run. I'd prefer not to have to do that again.

tredadda 11-21-2024 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17816763)
No, they can rest there starters for most of week 18, have a nice little bye week, have homefield advantage, and they'd only have 2 games to play before the SB instead of 3 games. Getting the bye lessens the chances of having injury.

This 100%. One fewer opponent, one more week of rest will always trump three games against possible opponents.

RunKC 11-21-2024 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 17816990)
Chiefs wouldn't avoid the Ravens in the scenario I posted...Baltimore would play the Bills in Orchard Park. That is contingent on the Steelers winning the AFCN.

At any rate...dont care enough about this topic to interact with internet chest-beaters....not you...just not going to play along with the vicarious pile-on.

Chiefs get the #1,2,3,4 seed...it's nothing I control.

Somehow this got turned into that I'd prefer KC not get the #1 seed...was just illustrating a potential plan B scenario.

I wouldn’t be so sure about that.

The Chargers are the biggest dark horse team. They have the best defense in football statistically, their OL has elite bookend tackles and they can run the ball. Herbert is also playing the best ball of his career.

That team will beat Houston IMO. And I wouldn’t put it past them to beat Buffalo in Buffalo bc boy do the Bills no match up well with them.

Chargers are pretty much Ravens west. They’re a better version of the Ravens right now and we saw what the Ravens did to the Bills.

BlackOp 11-21-2024 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17817030)
The Broncos will get the 7th seed and we will play them in the WC. The problem there is they have the best pass rush in the league and have throttled our offense 3 games in a row.

Do not underestimate how much of a bitch it will be playing those guys. Vance Joseph knows our offense since he’s seen it so many times.

Yes I still think we would win but the grind this team has taken is nuts. Any of us would rather take the bye then play a divisional team that knows us well and wants revenge for a game they should have won.

You think the Donks are better than I do...KC "should" have beaten them by 10+ points and that was with a generic game plan and no Hollywood Brown, Pacheco, Omenihu.

Chiefs are going to look different in 4-5 weeks...then of course, it's the play-offs Chiefs...not the trodding regular season version.

DJ's left nut 11-21-2024 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17817051)
Last year was definitely the team best equipped to pull off a road run. This one would be close IF the defense gets their feet back underneath them on a level comparable to 2023.

But that team was built to win anywhere. Not pretty, but they could pack that defense up and a solid playoff ground game wherever they went.

that team could generate pressure with the blitz because it had Sneed and Watson taking the snaps that Conner and Johnson are taking now.

That's a MASSIVE step down.

I have a hard time seeing this defense getting anywhere near that level. The offense MUST step up. And frankly, the steps taken by the front-office this year seemed to be designed for exactly that.

But with the loss of Rice and Brown, not to mention Pacheco and the continued decline of Kelce, we're just struggling there.

But the idea of leaning into the defense to win a championship is pretty much a non-starter for me. I just don't see that happening this time around. The talent simply isn't there in the defensive secondary and it's lacking to the point that it's directly impacting the pass rush as well.

This defense is going to have to play soft and hope for some breaks. Penalties, poor execution, etc... It can't dictate terms like it did last season. So the offense will have to be the tip of the spear, IMO.

O.city 11-21-2024 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17817059)
I wouldn’t be so sure about that.

The Chargers are the biggest dark horse team. They have the best defense in football statistically, their OL has elite bookend tackles and they can run the ball. Herbert is also playing the best ball of his career.

That team will beat Houston IMO. And I wouldn’t put it past them to beat Buffalo in Buffalo bc boy do the Bills no match up well with them.

Chargers are pretty much Ravens west. They’re a better version of the Ravens right now and we saw what the Ravens did to the Bills.

Eh, they're really coming on but I'm not sure about Ravens west quite yet.

BlackOp 11-21-2024 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17817059)
I wouldn’t be so sure about that.

The Chargers are the biggest dark horse team. They have the best defense in football statistically, their OL has elite bookend tackles and they can run the ball. Herbert is also playing the best ball of his career.

That team will beat Houston IMO. And I wouldn’t put it past them to beat Buffalo in Buffalo bc boy do the Bills no match up well with them.

Chargers are pretty much Ravens west. They’re a better version of the Ravens right now and we saw what the Ravens did to the Bills.

Herbert is not a big game QB...suffered one of the biggest post-season collapses against the Jags....nearly choked the Sunday night game...and should have lost.

This is who he is...

Chargers arent close to the Ravens...the only winning team they've beaten is the Donks.

pugsnotdrugs19 11-21-2024 10:45 AM

The Chargers are going to win their first playoff game IMO unless its against Buffalo.

And even then, I give them a solid shot to win that too if they can catch BUF looking past them.

mr. tegu 11-21-2024 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17817054)
It was also a pretty improbable run. I'd prefer not to have to do that again.


Very much so. I still don’t think most people appreciate how improbable it was. Last year is not repeatable in a general sense, but especially with the defense seeming a tad less formidable this season.

RunKC 11-21-2024 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 17817069)
Herbert is not a big game QB...suffered one of the biggest post-season collapses against the Jags....nearly blew the Sunday night game...and should have lost.

Chargers arent close to the Ravens...the only winning team they've beaten is the Donks.

Harbaugh has changed the culture there. They aren’t run by a stupid ****ing yoga nerd anymore and it shows.

Yes they are the Ravens west. It’s the same philosophy as his brother. Play smart, strong defense and running game, strong in the trenches, wear down the other team.

The fact that they beat the Bengals is proof they are getting better bc they used to blow those games.

Everyone laughed when I said Harbaugh would help that franchise immensely. They are finally structured and run well and are not relying solely on Herbert to win games anymore.

BlackOp 11-21-2024 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17817053)
Alternative proposal - After the Carolina game/win just rest starters rest of the year and take the 7 seed. No injuries, just get healthy, hold practices, and draw up crazy game plans for our likely playoff match-ups.

I like it...have to beat the Raiders though...so after that.

mr. tegu 11-21-2024 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17817072)
The Chargers are going to win their first playoff game IMO unless its against Buffalo.

And even then, I give them a solid shot to win that too if they can catch BUF looking past them.


The Bills last two opening playoff games were not good showings with both very much potential losses and close deep into the fourth quarter. They were saved in those games by facing terrible QBs. The Chargers would be scary for them.

mr. tegu 11-21-2024 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17817078)
Harbaugh has changed the culture there. They aren’t run by a stupid ****ing yoga nerd anymore and it shows.

Yes they are the Ravens west. It’s the same philosophy as his brother. Play smart, strong defense and running game, strong in the trenches, wear down the other team.

The fact that they beat the Bengals is proof they are getting better bc they used to blow those games.

Everyone laughed when I said Harbaugh would help that franchise immensely. They are finally structured and run well and are not relying solely on Herbert to win games anymore.


They might have come back to win at the end, but they definitely blew that game twice. McPherson missed two field goals which either one would have broken the tie. Then it’s Herbert needing to lead a drive while behind. Again could have happened, but they got fortunate to not be trailing with a minute to go or whatever it was.

BigRedChief 11-21-2024 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17817063)

But the idea of leaning into the defense to win a championship is pretty much a non-starter for me. I just don't see that happening this time around. The talent simply isn't there in the defensive secondary and it's lacking to the point that it's directly impacting the pass rush as well.

This defense is going to have to play soft and hope for some breaks. Penalties, poor execution, etc... It can't dictate terms like it did last season. So the offense will have to be the tip of the spear, IMO.

I'm sure that Andy and Spags are aware of this and adjusting accordingly. At least I hope so.

BigRedChief 11-21-2024 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17817053)
Alternative proposal - After the Carolina game/win just rest starters rest of the year and take the 7 seed. No injuries, just get healthy, hold practices, and draw up crazy game plans for our likely playoff match-ups.

Welllllll, thats one approach.

Gary Cooper 11-21-2024 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17817030)
The Broncos will get the 7th seed and we will play them in the WC. The problem there is they have the best pass rush in the league and have throttled our offense 3 games in a row.

Do not underestimate how much of a bitch it will be playing those guys. Vance Joseph knows our offense since he’s seen it so many times.

Yes I still think we would win but the grind this team has taken is nuts. Any of us would rather take the bye then play a divisional team that knows us well and wants revenge for a game they should have won.

Same with the Chargers. They have two elite pass rushers and are familiar with the Chiefs. Always play us tough. Herbert has never won a big game but I still fear his arm more than Bo Nix's.

pugsnotdrugs19 11-21-2024 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17817063)
that team could generate pressure with the blitz because it had Sneed and Watson taking the snaps that Conner and Johnson are taking now.

That's a MASSIVE step down.

I have a hard time seeing this defense getting anywhere near that level. The offense MUST step up. And frankly, the steps taken by the front-office this year seemed to be designed for exactly that.

But with the loss of Rice and Brown, not to mention Pacheco and the continued decline of Kelce, we're just struggling there.

But the idea of leaning into the defense to win a championship is pretty much a non-starter for me. I just don't see that happening this time around. The talent simply isn't there in the defensive secondary and it's lacking to the point that it's directly impacting the pass rush as well.

This defense is going to have to play soft and hope for some breaks. Penalties, poor execution, etc... It can't dictate terms like it did last season. So the offense will have to be the tip of the spear, IMO.

They definitely need to come to grips with the reality that they cannot continue this conservative offensive approach and get where they wanna go. I think we saw where that will end their season this past Sunday. The defense can't make the amount of stops they are asking them to many weeks against great teams.

Sunday would be a great time to turn up the aggression and have a mentality that you need at least 28 points every week and attack defenses in that manner. Most weeks they probably won't need more than 21, but there is coming some times they definitely will.

BlackHelicopters 11-21-2024 11:50 AM

One seed, please.

T-post Tom 11-21-2024 11:55 AM

Tank the rest of the season to get the best draft picks possible next year. Then trade Mahomes & Chris Jones for many more draft picks. Fire Andy Reid and hire Deion Sanders & draft his kid as our new QB. It may take 3 or 4 years, but we're bound to get back to the playoffs at some point! :thumb:

RunKC 11-21-2024 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17817138)
They definitely need to come to grips with the reality that they cannot continue this conservative offensive approach and get where they wanna go. I think we saw where that will end their season this past Sunday. The defense can't make the amount of stops they are asking them to many weeks against great teams.

Sunday would be a great time to turn up the aggression and have a mentality that you need at least 28 points every week and attack defenses in that manner. Most weeks they probably won't need more than 21, but there is coming some times they definitely will.

I love Brett Veach and appreciate all he’s done for us so this is not by any means a shot at him.

The last 2 drafts have put us in this spot. The biggest issues are LT, the pass rush and depth at corner.

Felix looks like a bust relative to his draft position. Unfortunately Kingsley does too (though he is TBD). They missed badly on Kamal Hadden as he didn’t even make it through camp. Nazeeh Johnson is also struggling.

They’ve got Conner and Hicks from day 3 of the draft the last 2 years but not much else. I think Wanya has exceeded the expectations of a late 3rd rd pick but is still not a great pick.

It just shows how hard this league is. Small mistakes add up. You aren’t gonna .300 every year. Nobody does.

They hit a home run in the 2021 draft and then hit a grand slam in the 2022 draft but the last 2 drafts have been singles/doubles. Not bad by any means but they need more.

FWIW I think Rice and Worthy break out big time next year, so there’s good news there.

They have 3 draft picks in the top 66 picks and 4 in the top 100. They need to get guys that are talented, not developmental and can get on the field year 1. Guys like Bryan Cook, Leo Chenal, Jaylen Watson or Isiah Pacheco who can at least get on the field and be a decent starter year 1 instead of Skyy Moore’s.

Big offseason coming up

Jewish Rabbi 11-21-2024 01:47 PM

Guys, what if we just ****en lose every game the rest of the season to get a better draft pick? Do you think that would be advantageous?

gordonelloyd 11-21-2024 01:53 PM

It’s hard to see how we are going to solve our left tackle problem unless either Kingsley or Morris improves to the extent necessary or we get lucky in the draft or free agency.

As I said, in another thread, Since 2017 there have only been three OT drafted after the first round that made the pro bowl. Dawkins for Buffalo, O’Neill for Minnesota and Orlando Brown. Tyler Smith of the Cowboys was drafted 24th in 2022 so maybe also could’ve been considered in reach.

Very good left tackles Don’t usually become available in free agency and I doubt we could fit anyone that did within our cap space.’

Maybe we can make another trade like we did with Orlando Brown Junior. No one comes immediately to mine though.


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