Someone explain that 3 and 2 bomb?
 

Chiefs didnt need points in that scenario...they needed 2 yards and a first down. Not only that, an incompletion stops the clock.

Two plays to get 2 yards with a fresh Hunt and the game is over...but they went for a low percentage play for no reason. One they have repeatedly missed on for the past few months..

That is, by far, the worst play call of the past few years. It's not a mistake a championship team makes... mind-numbingly stupid from every angle.

Andy Reid.

I was expecting tackle eligible, but no, it's a bomb lol.

Yeah I was wanting to run twice. But Andy doesn't like to go for it there so that was never an option.

If it had worked, we'd all be cackling about the genius of the play.

I don't question the Chiefs any more. They can do whatever they want.

I get they were trying to catch the Raiders looking for the run.

What I don't get is you haven't had time to get off a downfield throw all damn day. Why on earth would you think that would suddenly change. Just a poor play call there

They had the right call.

I’m guessing Mahomes checked to it when he saw the coverage.

I think we ran a similar play in a similar situation to MVS.

It worked.

It was bad.

What made it worse was Worthy not even reaching for the ball.

I'd have to see a replay, but from what I remember it even looked catchable with some effort. (This reminded me of Hardman last season).

Disclaimer; I could be thinking of a different play.

Must stay on script

The point is...it was an unnecessary risk. The game was essentially over...Hunt has been picking those up all season.

That is a call a poorly coached team makes...for no apparent reason. Trying to get cute?

If not for a miracle fumble on the last play...it could have cost them the game.

And who all remembers this little number?

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I’ve said it in multiple threads, but I don’t like the playcall. Our line couldn’t stop the Raiders rush all day, and we had just slid a guard over to tackle on the previous drive. We then are relying on Mahomes to deliver a strong deep ball under duress, and so far this season, he’s struggled to deliver that throw with a clean pocket.

Bad play call, even worse to burn a timeout afterwards before ultimately deciding to punt away.

Perhaps even crazier than the bomb attempt is how terrible of a deep passer Mahomes is.

Nothing wrong with the call on Reid’s part or the decision on Mahomes’ part.

It was just a bad throw.

I liked the aggression… I assumed it meant the Chiefs were going for it on 4th down.

Bad play call and even worse decision to punt immediately after that (after a timeout no less).

Can’t imagine Mahomes allows either of those things to happen in a meaningful game.

Different situations, imo. Far more likely we convert a 3rd and 2 with a run up the gut and we didn’t have a line who had just been completely adjusted against Baltimore before deciding to throw it deep.

I didn't mind the call. We weren't doing diddly running the ball all game. I think it was the worst rushing performance by the team all year. And if it had worked, it's a huge chunk play, and the game is over, maybe on a walk-off TD. But once again the protection didn't hold, even though they had a bunch of extra blockers in, and Pat got hit as he was releasing the ball.

What I wasn't in agreement with was punting afterwards. I would've gone for it anyway.

Or, I would've run it on 3rd down, and if we didn't convert, then I would've gone for the big bomb on 4th.

You want a pussy conservative coach like most of the NFL?

Or you want a coach who says “**** it, let’s get crazy and if we lose, I know my guys can win a title taking the hard road”

Option C: perfect coach who always balances the two is not a real thing.

The whole offense is poorly coached. The playcalling is worse....

It was a stupid ****ing playcall. Even with so many guys in line blocking Mahomes STILL gets hit.

I dont...not in that scenario. The game was essentially over...and KC didnt need points.

Punting on 4th and 2 there reflects more of the former than the latter

Truly was about as gutless as you can get

You only need two yards there. You don't need a TD. A first down is as good as a TD.

Your O-line hasn't blocked well all game.
Your QB isn't great at deep balls.
You just gained 8 yards in two rushing plays.
You have three power RBs.

They should have run the ball again. Or throw a short pass, WR screen, drag route, crossing route, slant. Andy mismanaged the second half by not running enough and not designing enough plays for quicker passes.

I’m fine with a pass, but a slow developing play is not something this line has proven they can block for.

If he's so aggressive why didnt he go for it on 4th and 2

Not saying I loved the call but Andy has earned the right to make it. This is not Dan Campbell or someone who has not won shit.

He looked lost. He called a timeout and then still brought the punter back out. Indecisiveness. Going for it should have been discussed even prior to the 3rd and 2.

It was there just wasn't executed

He trusts his defense. Who must have lost the game based on a lot of takes here.

Well, firstly Mahomes got hit on the play which afffected the pass.

We've been a conservative offense over the last 2.5 years. He just hasn't had enough in game reps for the deep ball.

No one was saying Mahomes was a "terrible deep passer" in the first 4 years of his career. That's obviously a ridiculous notion.

At least I’m not the only one that has their eyes open. I love the call. Worthy is open. Great play call. Mahomes missed the throw. Again

It was for Harblah

His defense has surrendered late drives in each of the last 5 games.

Tampa has a long drive, scores a TD but doesn't go for 2.
Denver drives down the field but puts on the brakes and kicks a FG (blocked)
Buffalo scores a TD after a long drive and ices the game.
Carolina drives down the field and scores a TD and a 2 point conversion.
Vegas drives down the field (after starting around their own 10 yard line) and botches a snap.

The defense is either not getting stops in these situations or they're getting lucky or bailed out by the offense. This isn't last season's defense. He shouldn't trust them until they can close games better on that side of the ball.

Because he wasn’t then. Now he is. You’ve been watching the games right?

I mean, the defense didn’t exactly win that game for them LMAO

It was clearly rigged

he got hit on that play.

you take every opportunity to trash the guy when he didn't have good protection

and when he does, he throws bombs

he got blasted

It’s gotten to the point where when we go downfield I expect an incompletion and am pleasantly surprised by a completion.

The deep passing game is a mess right now.

It is an indefensibly bad call. Legit may be the dumbest thing I've ever seen Andy do.

Someone tell me Mahomes completion percentage on deep passes each year.

Oh I never trash Mahomes and you saying I do is flat out nonsense. But I do call things out as they are and Mahomes is a bad deep ball thrower.

I’m very confident that on third down we run something more conservative or perhaps run the ball on third down if we weren’t coming right up against the two minute warning. As it was, passing was the best option because the clock burning wasn’t really a factor.

Going for it on fourth would have been really stupid given how many terrible plays we had today. Whether it was miscommunications with Kelce, drops, or just the play and line being blown up, getting the conversion there was a very low probability.

Cool. **** Andy then. Hope he gets Eberflused today. I swear some of you have become so entitled that if the Chiefs lose in the playoffs (a sure thing since they are coached by such a ****ing idiot, clearly) I’ll be laughing at how many of you will completely emotionally fall apart.

That fact just compounds the reason not to try it in that situation...just get two yards and go home.

I can't. It's a low percentage throw. Abortion of a play call.

This thread is full of CP's finest posters.

I would 100% internet “Inglorious Basterds” myself in this thread if it took out all the pussies in here along with me.

The Raiders blew right down the field on the defense and probably would've walked off with a 35 yard FG if not for a dumb luck fumble. A win is a win but it's tough to feel too good about that one.

What was your opinion of that playcall and the pass?

Not now

Did or did not his defense make a play to win the game?

Yes or no?

No further questions, your Honor

That play in that situation in this game were misfits. For the reasons mentioned it was unnecessary and unlikely to work.

It was a 50 yard field goal from where they snapped it. At best they get it to 45 yards which was still not remotely a guarantee with how the kicker was today.

He got hit as he threw. And that was extremely predictable which increased the risk of an already risky play. Terrible call. Raiders absolutely gave us this game.

The issue is you can’t follow up super aggressive with super conservative.

You call that play on 3rd down with the idea that you are going to go for it on 4th down if it’s incomplete.

Yeah I was assuming they would've gotten closer.

I dont get it...the game was essentially a walk off in 80%+ situations. Like you said...why go over-the-top aggressive..."win or bust" mode then punt on the next play...it's contradictory.

Anyone that's coached at any level understands this:

When you have a good line everything seems to work well. When you don't you can make the PERFECT play call decision and it will still fail.

This was a great decision in a vacuum, but a bad one because of bad this Oline is playing. PERIOD.

I think that was on Patrick… Checked out of a run.. Did he say so in the presser?? Haven’t looked through this thread..

lol the coach said the playcall plan was for AOC just to burn time and throw it away on the last play.

Cross exam:

Did or did not the Raiders have an unforced turnover to lose their chance of kicking an easy game winning FG? Edit: Maybe it was further. I read the 35 post and that has been challenged.

No further questions.

I was in row 7 right in that corner. 3rd and 2 man up no safety we kept 9 in to block and he was open. Block it and a better Throw and it’s easy

AOC went rogue and shit down leg...

Argue the play call all you want. But throwing in the incompletion stopping the clock is stupid. The clock stopped a whole 3 seconds sooner than it would have anyway.

It looked like Worthy could have dived and got his hands on it or am I wrong??

I was assuming we were going to get a pick 6. Haven't won with one of those in awhile.

But is wasn't easy...and they were blocking so poorly that KC had to use a LG at tackle. It played out exactly how nearly every passing attempt had played out all day...Mahomes hurried then incomplete.

I expect our 3 time super bowl winning goat QB to be able to make that easy pass.

How can you call that a great decision, based on KNOWING that the pass protection was a frothy jar of ass?

Thats two power runs from pop or Hunt and the game is over.

If you want to throw, spread them out and hit someone faster that the tackles can impersonate a fence post.

Christ get a rollout play called to get Mahomes on the move with an option to pick up the yardage himself.

An all or nothing bomb? And then punt?

That's terrible football there.

Well, see, Andy Reid doesn't know how to win games in the NFL.

That simple.

Yes I think I agree. You want to increase your comp percentage based on the play you run. The play they ran is a feast or famine play. Its either a big gain or a 60%+ incompletion.

The two calls (long pass and punt) were a gift to the Raiders and we'd be making fun of any team/coach who did similar to us and gave Mahomes a shot to win a game like that

Not if KC ran it...the clock would have stopped at the 2 minute warning. They could have a 1st down and almost burn the rest of the game.

You forget that was the exact play that clinched us a SB berth against the Ravens?

I thought of that actually.

That was a 3rd and 10 though wasn't it? Plus, they had a 7 point lead instead of a 2 point lead. Totally different situation.

I remember a similar deal against the Raiders a couple years ago. Andy & Patrick went for a deep ball and missed it on 3rd and 3 with a 1 point lead. Raiders turned around and tried the same thing. Deep ball on 4th and 1, but they missed it. KC won by 1 point.

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Yep, and we hadn’t just reshuffled our entire line and set up a guard at Left Tackle. I don’t think it’s a great comparison, to be honest.

Come on...Raiders fumbled away a chance to win...which they never should have had.

Andy isnt infallible...it was terrible call bordering on ridiculous. It almost cost them the game...