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Hamwallet 12-01-2024 03:41 PM

Illegal Hits
 
How about this…

“If you do an illegal hit during a NFL game you are suspended until the player you hurt is ready to play again. You also are responsible for that players salary during that time.”

I think that would stop a bunch of crap.

“**** me, I owe Patrick Mahomes 45 million dollars?!”

Easy 6 12-01-2024 03:43 PM

Sounds good, but good luck getting the union on board

tredadda 12-01-2024 03:44 PM

That would never fly. They do that and it might as well be two hand touch as defenders would be even more leery of tackling a player.

Hamwallet 12-01-2024 03:46 PM

Trevor Lawrence got smoked today. That’s the only reason I am putting this out there. It was terrible and a 15K fine and ejected is not even close to what should happen.

UteChief 12-01-2024 03:46 PM

I am tired of off setting penalties. Evan Engram was flagged for defending Lawrence. So the hit resulted in an ejection but they replayed the ****ing down.

Hamwallet 12-01-2024 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17835952)
That would never fly. They do that and it might as well be two hand touch as defenders would be even more leery of tackling a player.

2 hand touch and blacking out a QB sliding is a very different conversation jackass.

smithandrew051 12-01-2024 03:48 PM

Each fan base gets to pick its “Punishment Fan”.

The guilty player gets locked in a room with the opposing team’s Punishment Fan for 3 hours.

Hit Mahomes? 3 hours with TheGuardian. No rules. No pants.

BWillie 12-01-2024 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamwallet (Post 17835947)
How about this…

“If you do an illegal hit during a NFL game you are suspended until the player you hurt is ready to play again. You also are responsible for that players salary during that time.”

I think that would stop a bunch of crap.

“**** me, I owe Patrick Mahomes 45 million dollars?!”

The result of the hit should be of no consequence. The intent and egregiousness of the hit should be what you focus on.

Hamwallet 12-01-2024 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17835969)
The result of the hit should be of no consequence. The intent and egregiousness of the hit should be what you focus on.

I think they go hand in hand with multiplier's. If you intended to knock them out of the game and injure them done for the season. If you intended to knock them out of the game and ended their career your career is also over. Also cover lost salary and a clause for lost monetary advertising revenue.

You cannot have people ruining careers when a team commits half a billion dollars and some asshole decides to do something reckless.

Rain Man 12-01-2024 04:12 PM

Want to hear an amazing fact about how the game has changed? There was not a single face mask penalty called in the NFL for its first 30 years of existence.

Marcellus 12-01-2024 04:12 PM

Its not even remotely realistic nor a good idea.

When Chris Jones lands on a QB, gets flagged for Unnecessary Roughness and crushes his ribs, you would think that idea was dumb.

Jewish Rabbi 12-01-2024 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 17836039)
Its not even remotely realistic nor a good idea.

When Chris Jones lands on a QB, gets flagged for Unnecessary Roughness and crushes his ribs, you would think that idea was dumb.

Pretty sure Chris Jones could accidentally kill a small animal with just the weight of his dong

chiefzilla1501 12-01-2024 05:20 PM

I am with you on this. I still don’t get people who insist on seeing hard hits and the end of the “pussification” of the league. You know what’s way way way worse than this pussification? Watching brutally bad replacement players because all the superstars keep getting hurt isn’t better football.

The unions need to get together and realize this is a win win to protect player safety. Cut out this shit with short weeks, more bye weeks, players union agrees to regular training camps so players can condition better, crystal clear rules on player safety (defenseless receivers…. Sorry guys… is my biggest concern). I do like the idea of the punishment fitting the crime because offensive players are way more vulnerable to game changing injuries than defense.

njchiefs 12-01-2024 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 17836037)
Want to hear an amazing fact about how the game has changed? There was not a single face mask penalty called in the NFL for its first 30 years of existence.

I see what you did there :)

4th and Long 12-01-2024 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 17836037)
Want to hear an amazing fact about how the game has changed? There was not a single face mask penalty called in the NFL for its first 30 years of existence.

The NFL came into existence in 1920. Grabbing the face mask was not a penalty through the 1961 season.

It was actually 42 years. :D

tredadda 12-01-2024 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamwallet (Post 17835958)
2 hand touch and blacking out a QB sliding is a very different conversation jackass.

You said illegal hit. What is your definition of that? Is hitting a defenseless receiver illegal? It’s a 15 yard penalty. Which RTP penalties are considered illegal and which ones aren’t?

Rain Man 12-01-2024 09:13 PM

I'm curious what the Jaguars' #22 did to get ejected. I can't find him in the video at all.

That zero-worth #0 for the Texans should be suspended for the rest of the season. The sport has no place for losers like that.

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DenverChief 12-01-2024 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 17836959)
I'm curious what the Jaguars' #22 did to get ejected. I can't find him in the video at all.

That zero-worth #0 for the Texans should be suspended for the rest of the season. The sport has no place for losers like that.

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100% agree.

UteChief 12-01-2024 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 17836959)
I'm curious what the Jaguars' #22 did to get ejected. I can't find him in the video at all.

That zero-worth #0 for the Texans should be suspended for the rest of the season. The sport has no place for losers like that.

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It had to be the fight afterwards. I was watching live and couldn’t figure it out.

threebag 12-02-2024 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 17836037)
Want to hear an amazing fact about how the game has changed? There was not a single face mask penalty called in the NFL for its first 30 years of existence.

Well disciplined players back in the day :thumb:

threebag 12-02-2024 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 17836152)
Pretty sure Chris Jones could accidentally kill a small animal with just the weight of his dong

Inside of an asshole, or just table top?

BlackHelicopters 12-02-2024 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17835969)
The result of the hit should be of no consequence. The intent and egregiousness of the hit should be what you focus on.

How do you police “intent”?

chiefzilla1501 12-02-2024 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackHelicopters (Post 17837207)
How do you police “intent”?

It’s less about policing intent and more about clear guidelines about what is an illegal hit. The rules are largely in place. I tend to agree that maybe the consequences aren’t as severe as they should be. Knocking offensive players out is an easy way to cheat. The saints in their bountygate game knocked Kurt Warner out and crippled Favre in their playoff path. For as much as people freaked out about the hip drop you don’t see people doing it anymore. Just teach good wrap up tackling and playing the ball.

OnTheWarpath15 12-02-2024 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 17836959)
I'm curious what the Jaguars' #22 did to get ejected. I can't find him in the video at all.

That zero-worth #0 for the Texans should be suspended for the rest of the season. The sport has no place for losers like that.

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I thought I heard he came off the bench and threw a punch/punches.

PAChiefsGuy 12-02-2024 08:02 AM

Some of you are just soft which reflects a lot of society nowadays.

It's a violent game. There's enough rules in place for player safety already. Injuries will happen and that's not going to change. Cheap hits will continue to happen here and there as well. It's just the nature of the sport for good or bad.

Don't like it go watch volleyball.

chiefzilla1501 12-02-2024 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 17837250)
Some of you are just soft which reflects a lot of society nowadays.

It's a violent game. There's enough rules in place for player safety already. Injuries will happen and that's not going to change. Cheap hits will continue to happen here and there as well. It's just the nature of the sport for good or bad.

Don't like it go watch volleyball.

It’s not about being soft. I love watching bone crushing hits. But I care about the quality of play way way more and that suffers big time when superstars aren’t on the field. And I care about competitive integrity and knocking superstars out of the game will always be a cheap but easy way to get an advantage, and we saw one example in New Orleans where they did it successfully.

OnTheWarpath15 12-02-2024 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17837265)
It’s not about being soft. I love watching LEGAL bone crushing hits.

Fixed.

This clown has like 5 incidents this year. No place for shit like this.

If this happened to 15 NO ONE would here would he supporting it.

tredadda 12-02-2024 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 17837268)
Fixed.

This clown has like 5 incidents this year. No place for shit like this.

If this happened to 15 NO ONE would here would he supporting it.

I am not aware of many people who would support any cheap shot hits. Hard tackles? Yes? Not dirty, cheap ones.

chiefzilla1501 12-02-2024 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 17837268)
Fixed.

This clown has like 5 incidents this year. No place for shit like this.

If this happened to 15 NO ONE would here would he supporting it.

Yup. I’m still mad as hell about Andre Cisco making no play for the ball and trying to hit stick all our WRs. I think they knocked Mvs and juju in that one game, and that scumbag tried to do the same to kelce but he slickly just dodged the contact for a td pass.


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