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kstater 12-15-2024 06:46 PM

Should Andy rest the starters Christmas Day?
 
Hear me out. They only need to win 2 of 3 regardless of what the Bills do. So with a win next week, why not rest the starters Xmas day, the 3rd game in 11 days, and give them 11 days of rest for the Broncos? Then get a week off before the Divisional.

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smithandrew051 12-15-2024 06:48 PM

You can’t take anything for granted.

The starters play until the 1 seed is solidified. That’s what Andy will do.

UChieffyBugger 12-15-2024 06:48 PM

No. Get the job done in these next two games then give them three weeks off hopefully.

Bearcat 12-15-2024 06:49 PM

It would be a nice middle finger to the NFL, but no.

FloridaMan88 12-15-2024 06:50 PM

No because winning at Denver is not exactly a sure thing.

kstater 12-15-2024 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17860553)
No because winning at Denver is not exactly a sure thing.

Neither is resting your starters against them, lose one of the next two (a decent chance imo) So why not get the guaranteed rest?

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Red Dawg 12-15-2024 06:52 PM

Yes. Beat Houston but sit against Pitt. Beat Denver and 1 seed is ours.

notorious 12-15-2024 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17860549)
No. Get the job done in these next two games then give them three weeks off hopefully.

I would say 3 weeks off will really screw up the offense's flow, but......

mr. tegu 12-15-2024 06:53 PM

Should Andy rest the starters Christmas Day?
 
No. And obviously Reid would never do it.

Raiderhater 12-15-2024 06:54 PM

If the 1 seed is wrapped up I don’t think Clark would intervene if Andy thought it best to go ahead and start testing starters. But if that 1 seed is still open, Clark wouldn’t allow the idiotic and greedy Christmas Day streaming game to take that hit.

notorious 12-15-2024 06:54 PM

Beating Denver in Denver is not a sure thing.

Hell, the opening line will probably be even.

Tribal Warfare 12-15-2024 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17860565)
No.

Yes, Andy should rest them

George Liquor 12-15-2024 06:56 PM

No but the NFL shouldn't make them play on Christmas day.

KCUnited 12-15-2024 06:57 PM

Keep chucking it deep until it works

St. Patty's Fire 12-15-2024 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17860569)
Beating Denver in Denver is not a sure thing.

Hell, the opening line will probably be even.

denver might be resting starters that game

UChieffyBugger 12-15-2024 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17860563)
I would say 3 weeks off will really screw up the offense's flow, but......

They've rested for three weeks before.

Hammock Parties 12-15-2024 07:00 PM

The scenario is on the table now where the Steelers rest starters. The one, two and three seeds are locked. I think?

UteChief 12-15-2024 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Liquor (Post 17860576)
No but the NFL shouldn't make them play on Christmas day.

I don’t mind stealing the NBA’s thunder but a ****ing Wednesday on three days rest! **** you NFL.

SHOWTIME 12-15-2024 07:01 PM

No, why would he do that? A win next week does not guarantee us a 1 seed. Buffalo has an easy schedule left with two games against NE and the Jets. If Buffalo sweeps the rest of their schedule, and KC drops their last 2 to Pitt and Denver, Buffalo gets the 1 seed.

George Liquor 12-15-2024 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UteChief (Post 17860591)
I don’t mind stealing the NBA’s thunder but a ****ing Wednesday on three days rest! **** you NFL.

If Christmas is on a Sunday/Monday/Thursday then I guess go ahead and play... but moving them up to have a game on extra short rest on a holiday where the entire world shuts down is bullshit.

Womble 12-15-2024 07:02 PM

Absolutely not. Beat the Texans and the Steelers. If the Ravens beat the Steelers then us beating them on Christmas day would probably give the Ravens the 3 seed and we get to avoid both the Ravens and Buffalo until the AFCCG at Arrowhead.

Hoover 12-15-2024 07:02 PM

I wouldn’t play Mahomes next week. Everything else full go

Gary Cooper 12-15-2024 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17860590)
The scenario is on the table now where the Steelers rest starters. The one, two and three seeds are locked.

If the Steelers beat the Ravens that is. The Steelers aren't division champions yet.

UteChief 12-15-2024 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Liquor (Post 17860596)
If Christmas is on a Sunday/Monday/Thursday then I guess go ahead and play... but moving them up to have a game on extra short rest on a holiday where the entire world shuts down is bullshit.

I agree.

Regime 12-15-2024 07:06 PM

Hell no we need to get the 1 seed.

Womble 12-15-2024 07:06 PM

The Chiefs already took last Christmas off against the Raiders. As punishment they aren't allowed to have Christmas off this year.

notorious 12-15-2024 07:07 PM

I would be amused if Cincy sneaks in and is Buffalo's first playoff opponent. LMAO

Hammock Parties 12-15-2024 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17860600)
If the Steelers beat the Ravens that is. The Steelers aren't division champions yet.

Yes. Would that lock in seeding?

smithandrew051 12-15-2024 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17860590)
The scenario is on the table now where the Steelers rest starters. The one, two and three seeds are locked. I think?

Steelers are still playing for their Division.

mr. tegu 12-15-2024 07:10 PM

The Broncos are probably a harder opponent for us than the Steelers. But anyways we wouldn’t have to worry about this because no coach is dumb enough to pass up a chance (two chances really) at locking in the one seed.

Hammock Parties 12-15-2024 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17860617)
Steelers are still playing for their Division.

Correct. Therefore, scenario.

If they win, is their seeding locked?

kstater 12-15-2024 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regime (Post 17860609)
Hell no we need to get the 1 seed.

And winning next week and against Denver does that?

I think you get far greater benefits getting 14 days off, playing Denver, then getting 14 days off, than playing 3 games in 11 days, possibly getting the bye vs pitt and resting starters for 20 or 21 days or losing vs Pitt and having to play the starters in the last week after playing 3 games in 11 days.

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Gary Cooper 12-15-2024 07:12 PM

If the Lions didn't shit themselves at home, we could beat Houston and rest starters either of the next two games.

mr. tegu 12-15-2024 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17860614)
I would be amused if Cincy sneaks in and is Buffalo's first playoff opponent. LMAO


Looks like the Broncos will be their undoing.

https://x.com/cincyplzwin/status/186...lslB7sz492FbAw

mr. tegu 12-15-2024 07:14 PM

Should Andy rest the starters Christmas Day?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17860620)
Correct. Therefore, scenario.

If they win, is their seeding locked?


They can still get the two seed outright. Not sure what the tiebreaker would be with the Bills as they are both currently 7-2 in the conference.

BigRedChief 12-15-2024 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17860547)
The starters play until the 1 seed is solidified. That’s what Andy will do.

This! No way we rest the starters against the Steelers. Thats sooo against what Andy normally does.

BigRedChief 12-15-2024 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17860620)
Correct. Therefore, scenario.

If they win, is their seeding locked?

Yes, we beat the Texans and Steelers, we have HFA no matter what happens with other teams.

Also winning next week and against Denver does that also even if the Bills win out.

smithandrew051 12-15-2024 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17860636)
This! No way we rest the starters against the Steelers. Thats sooo against what Andy normally does.

What if this happens?

Chiefs beat Texans. Rest starters against the Steelers, and the Steelers play like shit. The back ups lose a close one that the starters would’ve won.

Then, the Broncos play out of their minds and beat the Chiefs in Week 18.

Chiefs then end up with the 2 seed and all that lost momentum to go play the Broncos or Ravens.

Yeah, **** that.

RunKC 12-15-2024 07:21 PM

Win the next 2 and you get a 3 week rest

KC_Connection 12-15-2024 07:22 PM

Other than Mahomes if he's still injured, no, he will play them.

KCUnited 12-15-2024 07:22 PM

Patrick going for GOAT career stats he ain’t sitting

ThyKingdomCome15 12-15-2024 07:23 PM

It potentially puts the one seed on the line in DEN.

NO!

Frazod 12-15-2024 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17860553)
No because winning at Denver is not exactly a sure thing.

Denver will likely have nothing to play for in the final week. Sure, their coach is a dirty bitch who would love to beat us, but he is smart enough and has enough playoff experience that he'll probably rest key starters in that game. And seriously, where would Payton rather see his team play in a potential AFCCG at the end of January - Kansas City or Buffalo? Let's face it - nobody wants to play in that frozen pit of hell except the Bills, and seriously, they probably don't like all that much, either.

Sassy Squatch 12-15-2024 07:27 PM

Mahomes is going to need some actual game reps with Brown and whatever OL combination they choose to put out, whether that's Humphries/Thuney or Thuney/Caliendo.

KC_Connection 12-15-2024 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17860685)
Mahomes is going to need some actual game reps with Brown and whatever OL combination they choose to put out, whether that's Humphries/Thuney or Thuney/Caliendo.

The health of his ankle is more important than game reps

BigRedChief 12-15-2024 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17860652)
What if this happens?

Chiefs beat Texans. Rest starters against the Steelers, and the Steelers play like shit. The back ups lose a close one that the starters would’ve won.

Then, the Broncos play out of their minds and beat the Chiefs in Week 18.

Chiefs then end up with the 2 seed and all that lost momentum to go play the Broncos or Ravens.

Yeah, **** that.

I agree, that would suck big time but you dont play scared, you play to win the game. We have to win 2/3 to get HFA. Which teams would you chose to play those two games? I'll take Tesans at home and the Broncos on the road.

But, its a moot point. No way Reid doesnt play the starters at Pitt.

Frazod 12-15-2024 07:31 PM

This is the way I see it. Pat is both frazzled and hurt. REST HIM AGAINST HOUSTON. Period. Give him a week and a half to heal up and get his head on straight. Then start him against Pittsburgh and, if necessary, Denver.

Sassy Squatch 12-15-2024 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17860688)
The health of his ankle is more important than game reps

Neat. He'll be playing next Sunday and Wednesday.

KCUnited 12-15-2024 07:33 PM

Pat determines if he plays or doesn’t

Hammock Parties 12-15-2024 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17860632)
They can still get the two seed outright. Not sure what the tiebreaker would be with the Bills as they are both currently 7-2 in the conference.

No, Chiefs clinched the two seed at a minimum today.

We need to determine if the Steelers lock in seeding with a win against the Ravens.

If they do, they might rest starters on the 25th.

mr. tegu 12-15-2024 07:38 PM

Should Andy rest the starters Christmas Day?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17860701)
We need to determine if the Steelers lock in seeding with a win against the Ravens.

No. That’s what I’m responding to. If they are 11-4 and the Bills are 12-3, the Steelers aren’t locked in to anything. As I said, they can outright pass the Bills or tie them, in which case you would have to look up who wins that tie breaker given they would both be 8-2 in the conference after next week’s games.

Hammock Parties 12-15-2024 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17860703)
No. That’s what I’m responding to. If they are 11-4 and the Bills are 12-3, the Steelers aren’t locked in to anything. As I said, they can outright pass the Bills or tie them, in which case you would have to look up who wins that tie breaker given they would both be 8-2 in the conference after next week’s games.

Well, that's not happening then.

BWillie 12-15-2024 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 17860699)
Pat determines if he plays or doesn’t

Well, he shouldn't.

Red Dawg 12-15-2024 07:43 PM

Pat doesn't determine if he plays
Andy does.

tredadda 12-15-2024 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 17860669)
Patrick going for GOAT career stats he ain’t sitting

What will enhance his GOAT career stats is a three-peat and his fourth SB MVP. Not gonna happen if he plays when he’s injured risking further injury. Wentz is good enough to get this team past Houston or Pittsburgh. He’s probably the best backup QB this team has in the Mahomes era.

I don’t think he’s good enough to lead KC to a SB win. This is why they need Mahomes as healthy as he can be starting, especially considering the the issues with the Oline.

BigRedChief 12-15-2024 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17860701)
No, Chiefs clinched the two seed at a minimum today.

We need to determine if the Steelers lock in seeding with a win against the Ravens.

If they do, they might rest starters on the 25th.

Not to be a stickler for maybe long shot details but....

We lose all 3 and the Steelers win out, they are the #2 seed.

FloridaMan88 12-15-2024 07:46 PM

Jets are playing better, maybe they can pull off an upset against Buffalo… because the Faketriots sure as hell are not.

What a gift for Buffalo to get the Faketriots twice in their last three games.

Gary Cooper 12-15-2024 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17860717)
What will enhance his GOAT career stats is a three-peat and his fourth SB MVP. Not gonna happen if he plays when he’s injured risking further injury. Wentz is good enough to get this team past Houston or Pittsburgh. He’s probably the best backup QB this team has in the Mahomes era.

I don’t think he’s good enough to lead KC to a SB win. This is why they need Mahomes as healthy as he can be starting, especially considering the the issues with the Oline.

Is he? We've been squeaking wins all season against non-playoff teams with Mahomes at QB. What makes you think they still beat two playoff opponents with Wentz?

tredadda 12-15-2024 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17860701)
No, Chiefs clinched the two seed at a minimum today.

We need to determine if the Steelers lock in seeding with a win against the Ravens.

If they do, they might rest starters on the 25th.

Considering they also have 3 games in 10 days, I could see Tomlin doing that.

KC_Connection 12-15-2024 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17860728)
Is he? We've been squeaking wins all season against non-playoff teams with Mahomes at QB. What makes you think they still beat two playoff opponents with Wentz?

I don't think Houston is any good, Wentz can probably win that one.

Would be less confident against Pittsburgh.

Basileus777 12-15-2024 07:50 PM

Bills winning ended this as a possibility. They need to win 2 more games before resting. Everyone got hung up on their fantasies of 3 weeks of rest too early.

mr. tegu 12-15-2024 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17860722)
Jets are playing better, maybe they can pull off an upset against Buffalo… because the Faketriots sure as hell are not.

What a gift for Buffalo to get the Faketriots twice in their last three games.


Unfortunately that game isn’t this week. By the time of the Bills playing the Jets we might (hopefully) have the one seed locked up as we have two games before that one so it’s possible it doesn’t matter to us. But should we drop one it sure would be nice to lock up the one seed on a weekend we don’t play.

tredadda 12-15-2024 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17860728)
Is he? We've been squeaking wins all season against non-playoff teams with Mahomes at QB. What makes you think they still beat two playoff opponents with Wentz?

Yes. Mahomes is beaten and worn down physically and mentally. Wentz brings in fresh legs.

Demonpenz 12-15-2024 07:54 PM

Keep the load management to peter north

htismaqe 12-15-2024 07:55 PM

Mahomes is definitely not sitting out at this point in the season.

tredadda 12-15-2024 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17860740)
Mahomes is definitely not sitting out at this point in the season.

Andy should treat it like Game 7 of the World Series. Have Mahomes come in to finish the game against the Texans if needed.

KC_Connection 12-15-2024 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17860694)
Neat. He'll be playing next Sunday and Wednesday.

If it was a playoff game, he'd be playing. Saturday isn't.

Rest him and win with Wentz.

TomBarndtsTwin 12-15-2024 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17860769)
If it was a playoff game, he'd be playing. Saturday isn't.

Rest him and win with Wentz.

Agreed.

Wentz and our running game and our D can win this one.

Mahomes needs the rest before the Christmas Day game. That’s gonna be the game to clinch the one seed.

BlackOp 12-15-2024 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 17860559)
Yes. Beat Houston but sit against Pitt. Beat Denver and 1 seed is ours.

That wont happen in a million years...besides...Steelers play the Ravens 4 days earlier. That will be a playoff type game for them...you only rest players when you have already have things buttoned up.

KCUnited 12-15-2024 08:20 PM

CP fantasies

Pat, we’re sitting you for the well being of the realm

Pat: Yes mah lord

BlackOp 12-15-2024 08:22 PM

Houston is an interesting game...they already have the AFC South/fourth seed secured.

Strategically, much do they show against the Chiefs this late in the year? There is a good chance they will see KC in the Divisional.

KCUnited 12-15-2024 08:29 PM

Andy better bring Tawb with him when he tells Mahomes he’s not playing

jerryaldini 12-15-2024 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17860628)
Looks like the Broncos will be their undoing.

https://x.com/cincyplzwin/status/186...lslB7sz492FbAw

Thing is I'm not sure Broncos will be favored in any of those unless we are resting starters (which would be hilarious). If Pittsburgh is resting I see the Bengals winning out. I could see the Colts or Dolphins winning out with those schedules though.

PHOG 12-15-2024 08:32 PM

Have Wentz start this Saturday and win vs. Houston, and then have Mahomes start vs. Pitt on Christmas. Win both games, rest starters vs. Denver scum with the 1 seed clinched.

mr. tegu 12-15-2024 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerryaldini (Post 17860807)
Thing is I'm not sure Broncos will be favored in any of those unless we are resting starters (which would be hilarious). If Pittsburgh is resting I see the Bengals winning out. I could see the Colts or Dolphins winning out with those schedules though.


How torturous would it be for Bills fans if they needed us to lose against the Broncos in order to keep them from facing the Bengals in round one. They definitely don’t want that game.

BigRedChief 12-15-2024 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHOG (Post 17860810)
Have Wentz start this Saturday and win vs. Houston, and then have Mahomes start vs. Pitt on Christmas. Win both games, rest starters vs. Denver scum with the 1 seed clinched.

You really think and or believe that Mahomes will allow himself to be benched just so he can start the next week.

jerryaldini 12-15-2024 08:39 PM

The Broncos next 2 are at LAC and at CIN. I can see them dropping both and needing to win that final game.

Coach 12-15-2024 08:42 PM

The way I see it (and I could be wrong here) is, if KC beat Houston and Pittsburgh lose to Baltimore, the Chiefs are guaranteed to go no lower than #2 at that point, because all other teams (outside of BUF) have 5 or more losses.

Agreed with others about game in Denver isn't guaranteed. I would also consider the Pittsburgh game the same, given they are 5-1 at home.

Either way, first order of business is having to beat Houston.

Frazod 12-15-2024 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerryaldini (Post 17860826)
The Broncos next 2 are at LAC and at CIN. I can see them dropping both and needing to win that final game.

I'd much rather deal with the Donx than the Chargers in the playoffs. That Charger defense is nasty.

Coach 12-15-2024 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerryaldini (Post 17860826)
The Broncos next 2 are at LAC and at CIN. I can see them dropping both and needing to win that final game.

What's funny is, LAC is 4-3 at home but both teams do have a lot to play for in terms of seeding.

But the Bengals are 1-5 at home, which is kind of crazy.


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