What do you do in the offseason if you are the Chiefs?
 

We got a couple weeks to kill time...

Re-sign everyone and draft BPA at 32? :shrug:


https://overthecap.com/free-agency/kansas-city-chiefs

Rest up for the 4 Peat!

Hookers and blow

Where'd you get that list, a bunch of those guys aren't on the team..

That list is exhausting. It's like every year we have to start over.

Depends if we win the SB or not. If we win, like I expect, balls to the wall. Get a GUY at LT.

Deneric Prince is on the Dolphins PS, Toney and CEH are gone...cmon

This better? Most people know this I was just trying to find a quick link and start discussion. Think people care about Ian book?

https://overthecap.com/free-agency

Need at least two WRs. Rice/Worthy currently the only ones signed for 2025. See if Hollywood Brown wants to come back. Likely get the other WR from elsewhere.

Bring back Bolton. We don't have a replacement for him in the pipeline.

Bring back Wharton unless he wants too much. We lack depth at the interior D-Line.

Reid/Smith would be nice to re-sign but probably cannot afford their market value.

Most of these other players can be replaced through free agency and/or draft.

Pretty sure Gray and Humphrey were already signed.

I don’t think we should re-sign Tyrann Mathieu or Dan Sorensen

I bring back a WR and Perline

Let Smith Walk. Extend Thuney. Keep Charles O

Draft draft draft

Don't want Hollywood. Too injury prone.

That is one heck of a list! I sure hope they figure out a way to keep Justin Reid and Nick Bolton.

Justin Reid is always balling out and making key plays, he is invaluable.

Noah Gray, Trey Smith and Creed Humphrey would be my next priority.

Throw all the money at Ian Book

Justin Reid isn't coming back unless he takes a significant pay cut.

Humphrey and Gray already signed new deals.

More new guys.

This train has been running because Veach continues to bring in rookies/free agents that have some juice and want to win a ring.

I don't really have any specifics other than that.

The biggest name that stands out to me is: Trey Smith (G) – UFA

He is my second favorite OL.

:thumb: Thanks! I thought they had but couldn't remember.

This team will really miss Reid if he is gone.

Under no circumstances should we resign him. Unless we can trade Creed, then maybe.

I would try to trade Creed to some dumb running team for a good LT.

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Trey Smith will probably get one of the biggest contracts in all of free agency with it being a bad class overall. With the fact he was such a late pick he deserves to get every penny he can earn, he has been appreciated for his efforts but it’s going to be best to move on.

I saw a top 50 free agent list today. Tee Higgins was number 1. Trey Smith was number 2. They are already paying Thuney, Creed, and Taylor big money. No way are they going to be able to pay Trey what he will get. We're probably rolling with Caliendo or the guard that we drafted this year and wishing Trey the best

Also in the top 50, Hopkins at 14, Bolton 34, Brown 36, and Reid 50. Lots of covered players on this team.

Brown will be back most likely on another 1 year deal. DHop will most likely return as well. JJSS, Hardman Moore, and Watson most likely gone. Hunt most likely returns with Perine as the third down specialist. Chiefs most likely draft a RB with a day two pick as RB is deep this year.

Smith gets resigned as well as Humphries if he shows he still has it thru the playoffs.

Bolton and Wharton resign. Reid is gone Hicks is his replacement. McDuffie gets paid.

Offense needs an infusion of speed. Adding some talent at RB whether through FA and/or the draft is a necessity, most runs being 3-4 yards and a cloud of dust because the RBs either have no vision (Pacheco) or are past their prime (Hunt). The last truly top notch RB we had was Hunt in his early years, taken in the 3rd round. Taking CEH in the 1st was dumb in hindsight, but aside from that the only RBs they've taken since Hunt in 2017 have been Darwin Thompson and Pacheco at the end of the draft. I'm not sure if it just hasn't worked out or if they for some reason have an aversion to RBs on day 2 or the middle rounds, but that should be the sweet spot.

Why does he need to take a significant pay cut? Give him the same deal again. Unlike the Money Badger, he's actually been consistently excellent in that crucial position for the entirety of his contract. He's 27 and just getting into his prime. $10m a year is a bargain.

I'd be happy with all of these.

Well, not Reid leaving - but the rest provided we can afford.

Top priority obviously has to be the best free agent LT that We can afford unless Humphrey really surprises. We will see how that goes in the playoffs. Giving up a lot of draft capital for a LT like we did with Orlando Brown should also be an option whether it’s via trade or moving way up in the draft.

We will not be able to pay Smith so will need a change at guard but likely already have good replacement options on the roster. We will be more than sat at receiver, even if rice doesn’t fully come back. I expect both brown and Hopkins will be happy to stay here on reasonable contracts same with juju. No one else wanted him. Hope we can get another year out of Kelsey, but if not, gray played very well this year. We should be able to keep our current RB slate, and maybe in the mid rounds try to draft a speedster. Several come up every year, we just haven’t gone after one.

On defense, we should try to resign read and Bolton, but not if they want too much. We can replace both and still have a top defense, and I think our offence is going to be really superb next year. Worthy might make all pro.

Giving Smith a massive deal doesn't seem like a Veach move, and I hope it doesn't happen. Hopefully they can get Hollywood to agree to another 1 year, incentive-laden contract. His injury might help their chances of bringing him back. I'd try to re-sign Omenihu and let Reid walk. I think I'd only sign Bolton if he'll accept a team-friendly deal.

Updated list:

Offense:

Marquise Brown (WR) – UFA +
Carson Wentz (QB) – UFA +
Justin Watson (WR) – UFA +
Mecole Hardman (WR) – UFA
Montrell Washington (WR) – RFA
Keaontay Ingram (RB) – RFA
Mike Caliendo (G) – ERFA +
Trey Smith (G) – UFA *
Justyn Ross (WR) – RFA
Chris Oladokun (QB) – ERFA
Chukwuebuka Godrick (T) – ERFA

Defense:

Justin Reid (S) – UFA
Charles Omenihu (DE) – UFA *
Tershawn Wharton (DE) – UFA *
Derrick Nnadi (DT) – UFA
Nick Bolton (LB) – UFA *
Deon Bush (S) – UFA
Mike Pennel (DT) – UFA +
Matt Dickerson (DE) – UFA
Cole Christiansen (LB) – RFA
Jack Cochrane (LB) – RFA +
Malik Herring (DE) – RFA
Keith Taylor (CB) – RFA
Nazeeh Johnson (CB) – ERFA
Ekow Boye-Doe (CB) – ERFA
Alex Gubner (DT) – ERFA

Special Teams:

James Winchester (LS) – UFA +

* important piece try to resign
+ would be nice for right price

We are not signing Smith. We still need a LT and we have already paid big money for 3 positions on the o line. It would be beyond stupid to sign Smith.

Hopkins

Offense
Marquise Brown (WR) – UFA - be nice to keep him on the cheap
Kadarius Toney (WR) – CLUB - wtf, he's already long gone
Carson Wentz (QB) – UFA - he can stay if he wants or not, idc
Clyde Edwards-Helaire (RB) – UFA - he's already cut dude
Justin Watson (WR) – UFA - keep on the cheap
Creed Humphrey (C) – UFA - he's already signed up long term wtf
Irv Smith (TE) – UFA - did he even make the team?
Lucas Niang (T) – UFA - practice squad?
Mecole Hardman (WR) – UFA - he can probably go
Ian Book (QB) – RFA - bye
Montrell Washington (WR) – RFA - he just got cut
Keaontay Ingram (RB) – RFA - practice squad I guess
Noah Gray (TE) – UFA - he's already signed up dude
Mike Caliendo (G) – ERFA - keep on the cheap
Cornell Powell (WR) – ERFA - why even have this guy on the PS?
Deneric Prince (RB) – ERFA - practice squad
Trey Smith (G) – UFA - would be nice but he probably gone
Justyn Ross (WR) – RFA - practice squad
Chris Oladokun (QB) – ERFA - practice squad
Chukwuebuka Godrick (T) – ERFA - no idea
Kyle Sheets (WR) – ERFA - no idea
Defense
Justin Reid (S) – UFA - Hicks can replace him but he is good
Charles Omenihu (DE) – UFA - keep on the cheap if you can
Tershawn Wharton (DE) – UFA - would be nice but might cost too much
Derrick Nnadi (DT) – UFA - idc, he can go
Nick Bolton (LB) – UFA - no idea if we keep him or not
Deon Bush (S) – UFA - there are worse backups, keep
Mike Pennel (DT) – UFA - hope we can keep
Matt Dickerson (DE) – UFA - practice squad?
Kelvin Joseph (CB) – UFA - meh draft another mid round CB
Cole Christiansen (LB) – RFA - idc
Jack Cochrane (LB) – RFA - he can stay or go idc
Malik Herring (DE) – RFA - he can stay or go idc
Keith Taylor (CB) – RFA - he can stay or go idc
Nazeeh Johnson (CB) – ERFA - if he wants to come back on a minimum deal
Ekow Boye-Doe (CB) – ERFA - idc
Truman Jones (DE) – ERFA - no idea
Alex Gubner (DT) – ERFA - no idea
Owen Carney (DE) – ERFA - no idea
Special Teams
James Winchester (LS) – UFA[/QUOTE] - keep

Attempt to Re-Sign:
QB C. Wentz - UFA
RB K. Hunt - UFA
WR M. Brown - UFA
WR J. Watson - UFA
TE P. Hendershot - RFA
TE B. Cupp - UFA
LT D. Humphries - UFA
OG M. Caliendo - ERFA
DE C. Omenihu - UFA
DE M. Herring - RFA
DT T. Wharton - UFA
LB N. Bolton - UFA
LS J. Winchester - UFA
SP M. Araiza - ERFA


Let Walk:
RB S. Perine - UFA
WR D. Hopkins - UFA
WR J. Smith-Schuster - UFA
WR M. Hardman - UFA
TE J. Fortson - UFA
OG T. Smith - UFA
DE J. Uche - UFA
DT M. Pennel - UFA
DT D. Nnadi - UFA
DT M. Tuipulotu - UFA
LB J. Cochrane - RFA
CB K. Taylor - RFA
CB N. Johnson - RFA
SS J. Reid - UFA
PK S. Shrader - ERFA

I think Humphries - if he can cut the mustard in the playoffs - gets a short term team friendly deal. There is your LT solution. I get what you are saying but you invest in the guys that protect your franchise. Can Morris or Calendo fill the RG spot adequately? We have all seen how bad our O is when Pat has no protection. I’d rather see KT, Moore and James catching passes than an O-line that o-lays defenders to crush Pat.

I’d be willing to bet we can get DHop back on a team friendly deal if we win the SB with him. He seems like the kinda guy that would enjoy teaching the younger WRs while chasing a 2nd ring. Not to mention if he walks with JJSS, Hardman and Moore that leaves us very thin at WR with Rice out.


Brown
Worthy
DHop
Watson
Remigio
Draft pick

I made your post the original post, but also included a pretty decent link :thumb:

when you sort by snaps %, it goes:

1. Trey Smith
2. Justin Reid
3. Nick Bolton
4. Tershawn Wharton
5. Justin Watson
6. DeAndre Hopkins
7. Nazeeh Johnson
8. Kareem Hunt
9. Juju Smith-Schuster
10. Mike Pennel
11. Matt Araiza
12. James Winchester
13. Samaje Perine
14. Josh Uche
15. Derrick Nnadi
16. Mike Caliendo

and everyone else plays less than 15% of SNAPs for their unit.

I'd probably priotize re-signing defense. Maybe Bolton, Watson and Johnson as I think that could be realistic.

I think what you do this year has as much to do with he 26 class of free agents as it does the 25. I think you work on a mcduffie extension as soon as you can. The year after Karlafits is up, Mcduffie, Watson, Williams, Cook, Chenal, Pacheco and Kelce (assuming he doesn't retire).

To me your looking at
Reid vs Cook. Reid's much more important, but Cook would be cheaper and Hicks is coming on.

Bolton Vs Chenal. Could Leo step in and do what Bolton does? Physically yes. Mentally?

Ohminihu vs Karlafitis. This is tough. Both are great but I think Ohminihu offers more as a rusher.

Obviously not apples to apples but just as far as resource allocation to position groups.

I think you have to have a conversation with Joe Thuney to see if he would want to play LT moving forward bc he’s been the best LT this franchise has had since Eric Fisher and he’s got the juice.

One of the biggest priorities is extending him bc he’s a top 5 OL in all of football. Verderame said he’s only been called for holding one freaking time since he’s been a Chief and he’s aging very well. Only missed 2 regular season games in his career.

I’d keep Hollywood on another 1 year deal at least bc he’s cheap. Hopkins should come back too while Rashee is out.

The Chiefs need to find the cheap FA steals that they always do that are successful. Juju, Tranquil, Hollywood, Breeland, D. Williams, McKinnon, Araiza etc.

And yes they are probably keeping Bolton and letting Trey walk. Trey is gonna get so much money from some team. Patriots and Bears will price us out on him IMO

I'd extend Thuney and Bolton, resign Brown and sniff around on the rest.

They need to keep adding speed to the offense though, be it a RB or WR.

Pay market price for Omenihu.

Below market offer to Bolton.

Team-friendly offers to the following:
M. Brown
J. Watson
J. Reid
T. Wharton
N. Johnson

Don't care about the rest.

I hate to be the guy that does this, but methinks Bolton does alot for the defense that goes beyond physically playing.

They'll not let that walk.

Re-sign Hollywood, Thuney, Bolton, and Reid

Find a new LT
Get a shifty, pass catching RB
Draft a CB

I would only resign Thuney if I planned to keep him at tackle.

Dude is 32 so he might have one or two seasons left which would hopefully be enough time to get Suamataia up to speed.

I just wouldn't pay guards big money which is painful to say because I absolutely love watching Trey Smith pancake dudes. But you can't keep everybody in the salary cap era and it is too easy to replace guards.

all i know is i somehow want us to get jeanty

Too much concern that Patrick Mahomes is not going into 2025 as the starting Quarterback for the Kansas City Chiefs. To worry about that

I’m not even considering moving forward with Thuney as a tackle.

How much are Brown and Hopkins likely to get paid?

One question is what do they do about the cap? Only have around $20 million now in cap room. Mahomes is set to count around $65-68 million against the cap the next 3 years. I assume they’ll restructure him yet again and continue to kick the can down the road a bit?

If you pay him to play guard, it appears he would make a better than average backup LT...

I'll arrange better security for the Super Bowl victory parade.

I think I'd let JWat go and keep Mecole. Re-sign Hollywood and DHop for sure. I don't think we can pay JR or Trey.

The guys that provided instant impact when they got on the field…

Omenihu - instantly transformed the pass rush.
Thuney (when shifted to LT)
Hollywood chemistry with Pat is huge
Hopkins perfect possession WR vet to help mold a young WR corps, going forward.
Hardman (gadget/returner)
Hunt may only have one year left, but we don’t get the 1 seed without him.
Bolton - this is the one I could see us losing if another team swoops in and pulls a CJ Mosley. If he wants to stay, he will be here, but that’s a $ decision. KC won’t be the top bidder.

I think if you can keep those guys (Thuney getting an extension to lower immediate cap hit) and have a solid draft, we will be in great shape for the 4peat. That should be realistic with a Thuney extension and a PM restructure.

Guesssing both are looking to have a few good playoff games to help with their market value.

I’d like to find a way to keep our WRs together: Rice, Hopkins, Worthy, Brown, & Watson.

High talent, low cost.

I don't think we can assume Hollywood will cheap. If he has a decent postseason he may have a market.

He was what 8m this season. I do t think his price tag goes up basically missing the entire season. I’d try it again, but no more than that. And I’m drafting a mid round WR